spudski Posted April 28, 2014 Report Share Posted April 28, 2014 .... would love to see someone like him employed by ourselves with all his experience and football knowledge. Recently left Manchester Utd with probably a nice severance package for services. Can you imagine what that guy knows about football...and all his experience and connections. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jimmy_Lumsden Highly thought of throughout football... If you don't ask...you don't get. If I was Steve... I'd be straight on the phone and paying a large lump for his services and selling his dream. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex#40 Posted April 28, 2014 Report Share Posted April 28, 2014 He sold Bob Taylor for peanuts didn't he... Not that I'm still bitter! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrahamC Posted April 28, 2014 Report Share Posted April 28, 2014 Because? He's followed Moyes around with a non specific job, what suggests he'd add any value to us? If we were to ever go down this route then we need to wait for QPR to get fed up of Redknapp and get Joe Jordan back. That's someone with a real name in football, loads of contacts and of course a Bristol resident... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pongo88 Posted April 28, 2014 Report Share Posted April 28, 2014 A couple of questions. If he's good enough for top Premiership clubs why would he come to Bristol City? If City want to employ him, who would get the sack to create a vacancy? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cider hoss rules Posted April 28, 2014 Report Share Posted April 28, 2014 he was never that popular when he was here before, even to the extent of an impromtu 'Lumsden out' chant in a motorway queue coming back from the east midlands, Leicester away I think (damn you David Kelly) but may have been Forest in the FA cup Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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The Gasbuster Posted April 28, 2014 Report Share Posted April 28, 2014 He's bound to follow Moyes to his next club. Newcastle. ?, Spurs ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SecretSam Posted April 28, 2014 Report Share Posted April 28, 2014 He's bound to follow Moyes to his next club. Newcastle. ?, Spurs ? ...Villa, Norwich, West Ham, etc etc ad nauseam Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spudski Posted April 28, 2014 Author Report Share Posted April 28, 2014 Now that would be a dream.... SL to convince Moyes and Lumsden to come here. Tell them to build a legacy for him...sell the dream. Let them get on with it. Let them create a new 'Everton'. A club fit for professional football from top to bottom.... Who'd of thought James and Coppell would have come here when they did....? We can all but dream.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CotswoldRed Posted April 28, 2014 Report Share Posted April 28, 2014 He sold Bob Taylor for peanuts didn't he... Not that I'm still bitter! Never forgived him for that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major Isewater Posted April 28, 2014 Report Share Posted April 28, 2014 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tall King Blox Posted April 28, 2014 Report Share Posted April 28, 2014 Never forgived him for that. Nor me...........but wasn't super bob still struggling with his injury before he departed ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CotswoldRed Posted April 28, 2014 Report Share Posted April 28, 2014 Nor me...........but wasn't super bob still struggling with his injury before he departed ? Can't remember, but he certainly got over the injury after leaving us! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
red panda Posted April 28, 2014 Report Share Posted April 28, 2014 Nor me...........but wasn't super bob still struggling with his injury before he departed ? Don't know, but he scored 37 goals for WBA in his first full season, so can't have been too bad? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeh Posted April 28, 2014 Report Share Posted April 28, 2014 So who really knows what Jimmy L does ? What was his exact role and what were his successes and how would that translate to BCFC. What would his exact role be at BCFC ? What will he bring to the club ? Apart from being at Everton and briefly at Manure, what does anyone here know about his ability and how it relates to our situation. I would be far more interested to know what Southampton have done, who were in L1 not so long ago, and how they turned their club around from being bankrupt. If there is realistic model and or lessons to be learnt they seem to have done exactly what we need to do right now. seperating their main assists from the football club so they didn't get taken when they went into administration? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tins Posted April 28, 2014 Report Share Posted April 28, 2014 What's wrong with Cotts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigTone Posted April 28, 2014 Report Share Posted April 28, 2014 ad nauseam Why would he go to an Egyptian club ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbored Posted April 28, 2014 Report Share Posted April 28, 2014 We witnessed at AG just how limited Lumsden was as number one. He was never cut out to be the main man but has made a very decent living as member of the back room staff of David Moyes. No doubt he'll follow Moyes into his next job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid in the Riot Posted April 28, 2014 Report Share Posted April 28, 2014 So who really knows what Jimmy L does ? What was his exact role and what were his successes and how would that translate to BCFC. What would his exact role be at BCFC ? What will he bring to the club ? Apart from being at Everton and briefly at Manure, what does anyone here know about his ability and how it relates to our situation. I would be far more interested to know what Southampton have done, who were in L1 not so long ago, and how they turned their club around from being bankrupt. If there is realistic model and or lessons to be learnt they seem to have done exactly what we need to do right now. Or Swansea. Can't believe that interview with their chairman Huw Jenkins from a while back who said that not ONE person had rang him up and said "So, how'd you do it?" Far too much arrogance in football for that I suppose. I was almost tempted to ring him myself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spudski Posted April 28, 2014 Author Report Share Posted April 28, 2014 We witnessed at AG just how limited Lumsden was as number one. He was never cut out to be the main man but has made a very decent living as member of the back room staff of David Moyes. No doubt he'll follow Moyes into his next job. That was 22 years ago...the amount of knowledge he has since absorbed would be so beneficial to a Club like ours. I do agree...he will most likely go wherever Moyes goes...in the same way Jordan follows Redknapp. It is, in my way of thinking, an out of date way of running a Club. Former Coaches at Man Utd have said Moyes failed their, because he tried to change a winning system...too quickly, and doing it 'his way'. I'm surprised a Club like Man Utd allowed Moyes to try and change things so much. This is why I always think it's best to have coaches in place, a Director of football, and a football panel for transfers, a philosophy and way of playing and developing players, a structure that doesn't change when managers come and go. Bring in managers and tell them 'this is how it works at our club, this is how we play...now work with it...' Instead of letting one man, and any coaches he brings with him, upset the whole apple cart. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid in the Riot Posted April 28, 2014 Report Share Posted April 28, 2014 Chelsea do that well, despair. When Mourinho was asked the other day whether he would field a weakened team v Liverpool cus of the CL game v Athletico he said that wouldn't be his decision as there are more important people at Chelsea who make those kind of decisions! Chelsea change managers all the time (nearly every season) and it doesn't seem to impact upon the success, which they continue to enjoy. They must have a very strong structure in place behind the scenes. A **** load of money helps too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spudski Posted April 28, 2014 Author Report Share Posted April 28, 2014 Chelsea do that well, despair. When Mourinho was asked the other day whether he would field a weakened team v Liverpool cus of the CL game v Athletico he said that wouldn't be his decision as there are more important people at Chelsea who make those kind of decisions! Chelsea change managers all the time (nearly every season) and it doesn't seem to impact upon the success, which they continue to enjoy. They must have a very strong structure in place behind the scenes. A **** load of money helps too. And even with all that money and structure...they still loan out young players to a Dutch side, so they get beneficial development and improved competitive matches. Very forward thinking... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid in the Riot Posted April 28, 2014 Report Share Posted April 28, 2014 And even with all that money and structure...they still loan out young players to a Dutch side, so they get beneficial development and improved competitive matches. Very forward thinking... Yeah I know a Northern Irish lad in their academy, it's a top set-up. Links with a Dutch side...hmmm wonder if we could sort that...if either club learnt how to use a phone would be a start Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRL Posted April 28, 2014 Report Share Posted April 28, 2014 I wouldn't judge Lumsden on his city managerial record. He was a excellent no 2. He took the managerial job and a few months later his Son died. I'd not expect anyone to deal with managing their first club under those circumstances. Harsh on the guy. We'll never know if he would have made a good manager. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eco Posted April 28, 2014 Report Share Posted April 28, 2014 He sold Bob Taylor for peanuts didn't he... Not that I'm still bitter! Has to be one of the worst decisions ever in the history of BCFC ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedM Posted April 28, 2014 Report Share Posted April 28, 2014 Didn't Jimmy Lumsdens son die whilst he was here, can't remember much but I think the lad was only about 16 years old and it was an tragic accident rather than illness. I thought he took time off but never really recovered fom it (who would?). I thought he wanted to go back up north to be nearer the grave? No doubt this would have a huge bearing on his life and career. He reminds me of a millen, a great number 2, a coach, but not wanting to be a manager in his own right Edit: as I was typing this TRL confirmed this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrahamC Posted April 28, 2014 Report Share Posted April 28, 2014 Lumsden's son died while he was Joe's assistant. It was in the 89/90 promotion season. He was a truly terrible manager for us, a classic example of the Peter principle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BS3_RED Posted April 28, 2014 Report Share Posted April 28, 2014 He's bound to follow Moyes to his next club. Newcastle. ?, Spurs ? Villa for me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BS4 on Tour... Posted April 28, 2014 Report Share Posted April 28, 2014 Has to be one of the worst decisions ever in the history of BCFC ! He did sign Jacki Dziekanowski though.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbored Posted April 29, 2014 Report Share Posted April 29, 2014 He did sign Jacki Dziekanowski though.... Who scored a whopping 7 goals.......just saying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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