RedZepperin Posted June 9, 2014 Report Share Posted June 9, 2014 The Falkland Islands have never belonged to Argentina. Argentina made a claim to them on independence from Spain. Instead of saying "the Falkland Islands are Argentine", the banner should say "We would like the Falkland Islands to be Argentine". The addition of "in an ideal world", "for financial reasons" or "please" would also be welcome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeh Posted June 9, 2014 Report Share Posted June 9, 2014 must be an election coming up in Argentina again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aizoon Posted June 9, 2014 Report Share Posted June 9, 2014 must be an election coming up in Argentina again Or a military coup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ten minutes of rough Posted June 9, 2014 Report Share Posted June 9, 2014 The Falkland Islands have never belonged to Argentina. Argentina made a claim to them on independence from Spain. Instead of saying "the Falkland Islands are Argentine", the banner should say "We would like the Falkland Islands to be Argentine". The addition of "in an ideal world", "for financial reasons" or "please" would also be welcome. The Falkland Islands are Argentine, as much as the Isle of Wight is British. I wonder how we would feel if the I of W was inhabited by Argentines? Don't get me wrong as an ex servicemen I feel it was right and proper to defend the territory in the past, but British rule will be untenable in the future and I feel sure the Falklands will be Argentine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SimonR Posted June 9, 2014 Report Share Posted June 9, 2014 The Argies must be the biggest Micky Mouse nation in the whole of south America, and that is some achievement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeh Posted June 9, 2014 Report Share Posted June 9, 2014 The Falkland Islands are Argentine, as much as the Isle of Wight is British. I wonder how we would feel if the I of W was inhabited by Argentines? Don't get me wrong as an ex servicemen I feel it was right and proper to defend the territory in the past, but British rule will be untenable in the future and I feel sure the Falklands will be Argentine. no they are not, they are british and will remain british, the argies only ever rattle the saber when there is an election over there, Also letting them have the isles is a massive disrepect to the familys currently living there as well as the service men and women who died re-taking the isles back from the argies Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ciderhead433 Posted June 9, 2014 Report Share Posted June 9, 2014 Poxy Island of know worth or value, costs us more money than it's worth, if the 100 or so Falklanders want to be British so much then stick them on an Island off of Scotland somewhere so they can feel quite at home, about time we did the right thing and started giving back all the lands we stole during our shameful imperialistic past Pre 82 maybe but we lost to many men just to give it back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IdliketoRogerMoore Posted June 9, 2014 Report Share Posted June 9, 2014 The Falkland Islands are Argentine, as much as the Isle of Wight is British. I wonder how we would feel if the I of W was inhabited by Argentines? Don't get me wrong as an ex servicemen I feel it was right and proper to defend the territory in the past, but British rule will be untenable in the future and I feel sure the Falklands will be Argentine.read my earlier post and educate yourself! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
East Yorkshire CideRed Posted June 9, 2014 Report Share Posted June 9, 2014 It is an outrage that the Argentinians think they can use football to promote their own "colonialist" ambitions (a word they like to level at Britain)! At the end of the day, it comes down to the rights and will of the Falkland Islanders themselves. If you take time to listen to them (something the Argentinians simply refuse to do) you will realise how important their home is to them. As some of the posters here have pointed out, they have never been Argentinian. They were settled by the British at a time when all the major powers in the world were clamouring for land. Their claim is kept alive by a government who want to deflect from their own inadequacies. Plus, the Argentinians know that, one day, in the future, we'll all be forced to look for oil and gas in Antarctica. Suddenly the Falklands becomes a very important port of call (poxy islands??). Until that day (and probably beyond) they will continue to teach their children that the islands are a part of Argentina robbed by pirates. Yes, some of the things Britain has done in its history is terrible, but there are also many, many achievements to be proud of. I don't think there is any large nation on earth that can look back into its history and say "we acted impeccably at all times". But in the case of the Falklands, Britain has nothing to apologise for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avalonred Posted June 9, 2014 Report Share Posted June 9, 2014 I have family who were born and brought up on the Falklands, Goose Green to be exact.... so I'm a little biased. The islands, as a British Protectorate, with a self-determining Government, are British... well, they are watched over by us. South Georgia and the other South Atlantic/Antarctic Islands are also watched over by us, protected from being stripped of all their natural wealth. All those small South Atlantic islands were originally used by Whaling Companies and Fleets to process their catch, now thankfully only used by the wildlife and scientists. There is only one thing the Argies want.... and have ever wanted from the Falklands....OIL! They have huge debts and a sheite economy.... and that crazy Chistina bird as President. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shelton’s Love Gravy Posted June 9, 2014 Report Share Posted June 9, 2014 I did try Welsh wine once; 'once' being the operative word. Actually I've also given up Spanish wine until they stop pratting around over Gibraltar. I'm boycotting Australian wine until they execute David Campese. Have never liked the man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major Isewater Posted June 9, 2014 Report Share Posted June 9, 2014 To be fair our imperialistic past should not be seen in a good light. From trading people, to drug running, cruelty to local populations etc. other than that what has the British Empire ever done for us ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major Isewater Posted June 9, 2014 Report Share Posted June 9, 2014 It is an outrage that the Argentinians think they can use football to promote their own "colonialist" ambitions (a word they like to level at Britain)! At the end of the day, it comes down to the rights and will of the Falkland Islanders themselves. If you take time to listen to them (something the Argentinians simply refuse to do) you will realise how important their home is to them. As some of the posters here have pointed out, they have never been Argentinian. They were settled by the British at a time when all the major powers in the world were clamouring for land. Their claim is kept alive by a government who want to deflect from their own inadequacies. Plus, the Argentinians know that, one day, in the future, we'll all be forced to look for oil and gas in Antarctica. Suddenly the Falklands becomes a very important port of call (poxy islands??). Until that day (and probably beyond) they will continue to teach their children that the islands are a part of Argentina robbed by pirates. Yes, some of the things Britain has done in its history is terrible, but there are also many, many achievements to be proud of. I don't think there is any large nation on earth that can look back into its history and say "we acted impeccably at all times". But in the case of the Falklands, Britain has nothing to apologise for. When in Argentina i rather upset the local's when i said that we are n't really bothered about "las Malvinas" but hey ho the FALKLANDER'S want to stay British ,muchas gracias. "I died for people like you in the war" - Spike Milligan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aizoon Posted June 9, 2014 Report Share Posted June 9, 2014 When in Argentina i rather upset the local's when i said that we are n't really bothered about "las Malvinas" but hey ho the FALKLANDER'S want to stay British ,muchas gracias. "I died for people like you in the war" - Spike Milligan I think you will find that the right of self-determination is one of the pillars on which the UN was founded. Exactly the same applies to Gibraltar. No bugger there wants to be Spanish, either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Murraysrightplum Posted June 9, 2014 Report Share Posted June 9, 2014 That's it then, according to Godwin's Law this thread should now be closed.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwin's_law Isn't there another law about the Daily Mail and Nazi Germany? Ooops I mentioned it! QED! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
North Lincs Red Posted June 9, 2014 Report Share Posted June 9, 2014 Poxy Island of know worth or value, costs us more money than it's worth, if the 100 or so Falklanders want to be British so much then stick them on an Island off of Scotland somewhere so they can feel quite at home, about time we did the right thing and started giving back all the lands we stole during our shameful imperialistic past The families of 255 British Military personnel might be a tad upset with your ignorant comments. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aizoon Posted June 9, 2014 Report Share Posted June 9, 2014 A slice of Argeninian political life - http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-latin-america-27769079 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TV Tom Posted June 9, 2014 Report Share Posted June 9, 2014 The families of 255 British Military personnel might be a tad upset with your ignorant comments. Don't forget that nearly 700 Argentinians died as well, most of them teenagers, in a war they could never win thanks to stupid politicians in Buenos Aires trying to make a political point and more tellingly the most evil prime minister this country has ever known. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BS15_RED Posted June 9, 2014 Report Share Posted June 9, 2014 Don't forget that nearly 700 Argentinians died as well, most of them teenagers, in a war they could never win thanks to stupid politicians in Buenos Aires trying to make a political point and more tellingly the most evil prime minister this country has ever known. Oh my God what a nauseating lefty muppet you are. The Falklands is a British territory, it's people choose to be British, it was the Governments duty to protect them, which they duly did. Now if you want to see true evil I suggest you look to Mr Tony Blair and his little crusade in Iraq and how many young British soldiers lost their lives there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TV Tom Posted June 9, 2014 Report Share Posted June 9, 2014 Oh my God what a nauseating lefty muppet you are. The Falklands is a British territory, it's people choose to be British, it was the Governments duty to protect them, which they duly did. Now if you want to see true evil I suggest you look to Mr Tony Blair and his little crusade in Iraq and how many young British soldiers lost their lives there. I've never been called a "nauseating lefty muppet" before, i can't stop chuckling to myself , do you know if Billy Bragg is performing down Glastonbury again this year? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BS15_RED Posted June 9, 2014 Report Share Posted June 9, 2014 I've never been called a "nauseating lefty muppet" before, i can't stop chuckling to myself , do you know if Billy Bragg is performing down Glastonbury again this year? Answer the Tony Blair question Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NOTR Posted June 9, 2014 Report Share Posted June 9, 2014 Oh my God what a nauseating lefty muppet you are. The Falklands is a British territory, it's people choose to be British, it was the Governments duty to protect them, which they duly did. Now if you want to see true evil I suggest you look to Mr Tony Blair and his little crusade in Iraq and how many young British soldiers lost their lives there. If only they had protected them,they didn't,they let the Argies invade.As for Tory Blair,he was almost as right wing as the milk snatcher,and a great admirer of her too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BS15_RED Posted June 9, 2014 Report Share Posted June 9, 2014 If only they had protected them,they didn't,they let the Argies invade.As for Tory Blair,he was almost as right wing as the milk snatcher,and a great admirer of her too. Exactly, but because he was New Labour, a lot of lefties seem to think what he did was ok. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TV Tom Posted June 9, 2014 Report Share Posted June 9, 2014 Answer the Tony Blair question Tony Blair proved to be a massive let-down, him and the milk-snatcher should have been charged with war crimes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TV Tom Posted June 9, 2014 Report Share Posted June 9, 2014 Exactly, but because he was New Labour, a lot of lefties seem to think what he did was ok. I think you'l find that most "lefties" despised Tony Blair and were the only voice in condemning the Gulf crisis which the Tories thoroughly backed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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BS15_RED Posted June 9, 2014 Report Share Posted June 9, 2014 Tony Blair proved to be a massive let-down, him and the milk-snatcher should have been charged with war crimes What war crimes should Thatcher of been charged with? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bristol south end Posted June 9, 2014 Report Share Posted June 9, 2014 Poxy Island of know worth or value, costs us more money than it's worth, if the 100 or so Falklanders want to be British so much then stick them on an Island off of Scotland somewhere so they can feel quite at home, about time we did the right thing and started giving back all the lands we stole during our shameful imperialistic past Well i feel that i will have to disagree with you on this. Fact. Pipelines were finished and being insulated 20 months after the war ended. The island really does have a value. It did not cost more than its worth. That does depend on what you see or count as worth thou. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TV Tom Posted June 9, 2014 Report Share Posted June 9, 2014 Where was all this outrage when Thatcher so meekly handed Hong Kong to China yet fought so vigorously for the Falklands at the same time, didn't the British of Hong Kong deserve support? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Esmond Million's Bung Posted June 9, 2014 Author Report Share Posted June 9, 2014 Where was all this outrage when Thatcher so meekly handed Hong Kong to China yet fought so vigorously for the Falklands at the same time, didn't the British of Hong Kong deserve support? What hypocrite you are the UK had Hong Kong on 99 year lease, had we ignored that it would have been like an act war, just like when the Argies invaded the Falklands. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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