Bristolcityyatton Posted November 9, 2014 Report Share Posted November 9, 2014 looks like the academy has lost two staff recently: alex ball to southampton http://uk.linkedin.com/pub/alex-ball/7a/64a/4a2 and dave horseman to watford http://www.watfordfc.com/news/article/141107-academy-david-horseman-appointed-2068804.aspx given that they have moved to higher league clubs i presume they are good coaches. hope we can adequately replace them and they don't poach our best youngsters for their new clubs! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major Isewater Posted November 9, 2014 Report Share Posted November 9, 2014 Perhaps they can help us with players . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray White Posted November 9, 2014 Report Share Posted November 9, 2014 Unfortunately our Academy is very poorly run on a shoestring budget. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spudski Posted November 9, 2014 Report Share Posted November 9, 2014 Unfortunately our Academy is very poorly run on a shoestring budget. what budget? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
candygram for mongo Posted November 9, 2014 Report Share Posted November 9, 2014 Alex Ball was "shafted" badly when moved aside for Carlos Anton Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drew Peacock Posted November 9, 2014 Report Share Posted November 9, 2014 Unfortunately our Academy is very poorly run on a shoestring budget. How do you know that? I thought we were investing quite a lot into it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCFC Jordan Posted November 9, 2014 Report Share Posted November 9, 2014 Quite disappointing news considering we were awarded Category 2 status. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeh Posted November 9, 2014 Report Share Posted November 9, 2014 if it was a shoestring budget we'd have cat 2 taken from us Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Esmond Million's Bung Posted November 9, 2014 Report Share Posted November 9, 2014 if it was a shoestring budget we'd have cat 2 taken from us Yes but we won again yesterday and the soap boxes need an occasional dusting off, ready for the inevitable defeat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tall King Blox Posted November 9, 2014 Report Share Posted November 9, 2014 life goes on...welcome to the machine..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aizoon Posted November 9, 2014 Report Share Posted November 9, 2014 if it was a shoestring budget we'd have cat 2 taken from us Presumably cat 1 is the one that pees in the coffee? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedM Posted November 9, 2014 Report Share Posted November 9, 2014 I don't know about Watford but I thought Southampton had an excellent academy, so anyone going there would be an opportunity they couldn't refuse. I guess like most jobs people come and go so no doubt we can replace quite seamlessly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cidered abroad Posted November 9, 2014 Report Share Posted November 9, 2014 I don't know about Watford but I thought Southampton had an excellent academy, so anyone going there would be an opportunity they couldn't refuse. I guess like most jobs people come and go so no doubt we can replace quite seamlessly. Very true. Two to four years is now the average time in a job, so it is not unusual to have some employees leaving now and then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drew Peacock Posted November 9, 2014 Report Share Posted November 9, 2014 Very true. Two to four years is now the average time in a job, so it is not unusual to have some employees leaving now and then. Quite. And it also provides a great opportunity for someone to post bullshit on a forum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Litoris Posted November 9, 2014 Report Share Posted November 9, 2014 Unfortunately our Academy is very poorly run on a shoestring budget. It has a bad reputation. But that's because of the way it was run previously. We won't see any rewards for a few more years. Shoestring. Ha. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cidered abroad Posted November 10, 2014 Report Share Posted November 10, 2014 Quite. And it also provides a great opportunity for someone to post bullshit on a forum. ? My comment? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeh Posted November 10, 2014 Report Share Posted November 10, 2014 I don't know about Watford but I thought Southampton had an excellent academy, so anyone going there would be an opportunity they couldn't refuse. I guess like most jobs people come and go so no doubt we can replace quite seamlessly. Watford have a fantastic youth team with plenty of quality players coming through Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drew Peacock Posted November 10, 2014 Report Share Posted November 10, 2014 ? My comment? No, no. Ray White's comment. I was agreeing with you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid in the Riot Posted November 10, 2014 Report Share Posted November 10, 2014 Think it would be fair to say Anton has ruffled a few feathers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeh Posted November 10, 2014 Report Share Posted November 10, 2014 Think it would be fair to say Anton has ruffled a few feathers could of been whats needed to be honest, we haven't really produced many players at all until very recently, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray White Posted November 10, 2014 Report Share Posted November 10, 2014 No, no. Ray White's comment. I was agreeing with you. Tbh you are entitled to believe what you want. Maybe I should rephrase what I originally said regarding the shoestring budget which was wide of the mark. The budget is obviously there, but it is very tightly controlled (perhaps correctly) but I still stand by what I said about it being poorly run in comparison with academies of a similar level. I am not usually negative towards the club and I would love to see us producing a greater number young players for the first team but I can't see it happening any time soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Litoris Posted November 10, 2014 Report Share Posted November 10, 2014 Tbh you are entitled to believe what you want. Maybe I should rephrase what I originally said regarding the shoestring budget which was wide of the mark. The budget is obviously there, but it is very tightly controlled (perhaps correctly) but I still stand by what I said about it being poorly run in comparison with academies of a similar level. I am not usually negative towards the club and I would love to see us producing a greater number young players for the first team but I can't see it happening any time soon. Hazarding a guess, was your son released recently? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray White Posted November 10, 2014 Report Share Posted November 10, 2014 Hazarding a guess, was your son released recently? Nope, I am just a keen observer. You yourself have said that we won't see any rewards for a few more years so clearly you take an interest too and have some idea how it is being run at present. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WTFiGO!?! Posted November 10, 2014 Report Share Posted November 10, 2014 This issue (and how it was somehow tenuously linked into every other topic) has never been the same since the passing of the late, great ashtonyate. R.I.P. Without him steadfastly refusing to budge an inch and his dyslexic use of the English language, I just can't get into it anymore Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redarmy1974 Posted November 10, 2014 Report Share Posted November 10, 2014 Horseman was obsessed with Maddox who it seems he is related to in some way. Will the club be disappointed ??? Anyone know ? He was with us for some time. Its his son! so excuse him for being obsessed as you say ! Dave Horseman was one of only two good coaches at the club the other being Trevor Challis how long he will last is anybody's guess . After the u18s very disappointing exit from the youth cup last week there was an emergency meeting regarding the recent results that Carlos Antons side have had lately . Alex ball was ****** over when Brian Tinnion brought in Carlos Anton, but it looks like it worked out well for him what with him getting a better job at Southampton who can only be described as a super academy . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Litoris Posted November 10, 2014 Report Share Posted November 10, 2014 Nope, I am just a keen observer. You yourself have said that we won't see any rewards for a few more years so clearly you take an interest too and have some idea how it is being run at present. Yep, I do. Have had a couple of my players go up for some trials and coaching and it's been a mixed bag, but certainly a massive improvement and the steady development of the academy will reap rewards in the years to come. We all want to see instant results with academies, but it's about the only thing where long-term plans are forced. Any changes to the academy in the last few years won't have any real effect until the youngest age groups reach the end of their youth-team careers. That's just the way it's always been. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phileas Fogg Posted November 10, 2014 Report Share Posted November 10, 2014 Yep, I do. Have had a couple of my players go up for some trials and coaching and it's been a mixed bag, but certainly a massive improvement and the steady development of the academy will reap rewards in the years to come. We all want to see instant results with academies, but it's about the only thing where long-term plans are forced. Any changes to the academy in the last few years won't have any real effect until the youngest age groups reach the end of their youth-team careers. That's just the way it's always been. Ah I realise who this is, good to have you back Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
candygram for mongo Posted November 10, 2014 Report Share Posted November 10, 2014 Its his son! so excuse him for being obsessed as you say ! Dave Horseman was one of only two good coaches at the club the other being Trevor Challis how long he will last is anybody's guess . After the u18s very disappointing exit from the youth cup last week there was an emergency meeting regarding the recent results that Carlos Antons side have had lately . Alex ball was ****** over when Brian Tinnion brought in Carlos Anton, but it looks like it worked out well for him what with him getting a better job at Southampton who can only be described as a super academy . Regarding the loss at Oxford, City had 5 players playing with pro contracts beyond their scolarship agreement. I can not see the reasoning in offering pro contracts so early (except for Joe Morrell who was being courted by Liverpool) better to "keep them hungry" and reward them later, if warranted. I am pretty sure that the Oxfords side did not include 5 players with pro contracts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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