bs3 Posted December 29, 2014 Report Share Posted December 29, 2014 Have we got it? When the new pitch was laid in the summer did we have it installed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BS3_RED_ASH Posted December 29, 2014 Report Share Posted December 29, 2014 Yes we do have it but I believe it's not connected up yet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westonred Posted December 29, 2014 Report Share Posted December 29, 2014 Yes but it wont be in operation until the new south stand is finished as it will house the new boiler to heat it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
downendcity Posted December 29, 2014 Report Share Posted December 29, 2014 Yes but it wont be in operation until the new south stand is finished as it will house the new boiler to heat it. I'm sure Shedman would have let them put the boiler in his shed until the stand is ready. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbored Posted December 29, 2014 Report Share Posted December 29, 2014 Yes but it wont be in operation until the new south stand is finished as it will house the new boiler to heat it. So........steam providing the undersoil heating? There me assuming it was powered by electric. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madmax Posted December 29, 2014 Report Share Posted December 29, 2014 Looks like Barnsley have under soil heating, yet their game tonight is off despite the heating being on since Boxing Day. So whats the lowest the temp can go for this heating to not have an effect? MM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
... Posted December 29, 2014 Report Share Posted December 29, 2014 This is indeed a most fascinating subject area, and one wonders why it has not been raised earlier. Lets have some technical details please, e.g:- a) Voltage system b) Max current flow Vs temperature graph c) Thickness of insulating cables d) Equivalence examples e.g. Ashton Gate under-soil-heating = how many electric blankets?? Once again, us, the poor fans, are in an information vacuum. HOW CAN WE LIVE LIKE THIS??? TFR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cotham Brow Red Posted December 29, 2014 Report Share Posted December 29, 2014 Well TFR maybe the heat to area transferance may depend on the type of flow through the undersoil piping. Depending upon the use of Laminar, Turbulent or Transitional flow velocity?. Calculation of the Reynolds Number determines the type of flow required: Re = (pvD / U) P =density of flow liquid kg/m3 v =average velocity of fluid past cross section m/s D =dia of pipe m U =coefficient of absolute viscosity Ns/m COME ON FFS SORT IT OUT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chivs Posted December 29, 2014 Report Share Posted December 29, 2014 Well TFR maybe the heat to area transferance may depend on the type of flow through the undersoil piping. Depending upon the use of Laminar, Turbulent or Transitional flow velocity?. Calculation of the Reynolds Number determines the type of flow required: Re = (pvD / U) P =density of flow liquid kg/m3 v =average velocity of fluid past cross section m/s D =dia of pipe m U =coefficient of absolute viscosity Ns/m COME ON FFS SORT IT OUT. I've done the calculations and Re=6 or Tog 20 in old money, which I think is quite high? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cotham Brow Red Posted December 29, 2014 Report Share Posted December 29, 2014 Hmmm...may have to consult ones table of factors to check. Or maybe crack open another cider instead...hmm dont know. Will do the maths to decide. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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A Horse With No Name Posted December 29, 2014 Report Share Posted December 29, 2014 Looks like Barnsley have under soil heating, yet their game tonight is off despite the heating being on since Boxing Day. So whats the lowest the temp can go for this heating to not have an effect? MM I think the Barnsley game has been called of due to safety concerns (ice) in the surrounding area. This makes me wonder what the point is of undersoil heating at all if games get called off for ice and snow away from the pitch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CyderInACan Posted December 29, 2014 Report Share Posted December 29, 2014 This is not good enough City. Can we have some pics please? And can you confirm the pipes are red? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Rizzle Posted December 29, 2014 Report Share Posted December 29, 2014 I think the Barnsley game has been called of due to safety concerns (ice) in the surrounding area. This makes me wonder what the point is of undersoil heating at all if games get called off for ice and snow away from the pitch. That certainly seems to be the more common cause for games being postponed. I suppose what under soil heating does offer is it means the ground staff don't have to faff around with huge covers on the pitch on the days leading up to games. This gives them the time and energy to do other parts of their job. Furthermore, it can't be good for the pitch having covers on so the undersoil heating will help that too. Having said that, if the weather is particularly snowy/ icey then the game will be called off anyway because of the surrounding areas being unsafe for fans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maltshoveller Posted December 29, 2014 Report Share Posted December 29, 2014 Waste of money having under soil heating Games today dont get called off due to frozen pitches they get called off due to the PC mob saying its unsafe to walk to the ground!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bristol Rob Posted December 29, 2014 Report Share Posted December 29, 2014 This is not good enough City. Can we have some pics please? And can you confirm the pipes are red? you asked for a picture almost fifteen minutes ago, and still no sign of any renders. joke of a club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
East End Old Boy Posted December 29, 2014 Report Share Posted December 29, 2014 I remember a game against Spurs when only two could play on the surface and they were bloody Argentinian! This day and age the game would never have taken place, with all the ice around the ground. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pongo88 Posted December 29, 2014 Report Share Posted December 29, 2014 I remember a game against Spurs when only two could play on the surface and they were bloody Argentinian! This day and age the game would never have taken place, with all the ice around the ground.Gerry Gow spent the entire match trying to kick them but couldn't get close. Sky often shows highlights of a first division match from the 70s when City lost 4-1 away to Everton. The pitch was unplayable from a football point of view, but it provided hilarious entertainment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CyderInACan Posted December 29, 2014 Report Share Posted December 29, 2014 you asked for a picture almost fifteen minutes ago, and still no sign of any renders. joke of a club. Still nothing. Will have to get DaveL involved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bristol Rob Posted December 29, 2014 Report Share Posted December 29, 2014 Still nothing. Will have to get DaveL involved. The heating had better be unreserved, with at least one section of it singing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
archie andrews Posted December 29, 2014 Report Share Posted December 29, 2014 Gerry Gow spent the entire match trying to kick them but couldn't get close. Sky often shows highlights of a first division match from the 70s when City lost 4-1 away to Everton. The pitch was unplayable from a football point of view, but it provided hilarious entertainment.the one from west brom away circa 79? looks even betterthey had "snowboots"and we didnt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 29, 2014 Report Share Posted December 29, 2014 Waste of money having under soil heating Games today dont get called off due to frozen pitches they get called off due to the PC mob saying its unsafe to walk to the ground!! Maybe wrong but I believe it's needed for getting the best ouf of the desso pitch as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Izza Posted December 29, 2014 Report Share Posted December 29, 2014 This looks like loops of pipes under the sand at Atyeo end, possibly the heating? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
handsofclay Posted December 29, 2014 Report Share Posted December 29, 2014 I remember a game against Spurs when only two could play on the surface and they were bloody Argentinian! This day and age the game would never have taken place, with all the ice around the ground They let us in late as it was a last minute decision to go ahead with the match. Finished 0-0 with Ricky Villa MoM. Kendall, the Spurs keeper slipped and fell backwards and knocked himself out on the hard ground. I believe the British heavyweight champ at the time, John L Gardner, upon hearing that wanted Kendall lined up as his next opponent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pongo88 Posted December 29, 2014 Report Share Posted December 29, 2014 Still nothing. Will have to get DaveL involved.B & Q sell DIY underfloor heating. City's must be similar so why not look at their website? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CyderInACan Posted December 29, 2014 Report Share Posted December 29, 2014 B & Q sell DIY underfloor heating. City's must be similar so why not look at their website? Good idea. Done. But there's none in Red. It's a Bristol Sport conspiracy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
downendcity Posted December 29, 2014 Report Share Posted December 29, 2014 Well TFR maybe the heat to area transferance may depend on the type of flow through the undersoil piping. Depending upon the use of Laminar, Turbulent or Transitional flow velocity?. Calculation of the Reynolds Number determines the type of flow required: Re = (pvD / U) P =density of flow liquid kg/m3 v =average velocity of fluid past cross section m/s D =dia of pipe m U =coefficient of absolute viscosity Ns/m COME ON FFS SORT IT OUT. Or if using Mrs Downend's calculation method for our central heating , just whack it up to max and going full tilt for as long as possible until it reaches nuclear on the thermometer. Then she is "just comfortable" - it's her circulation you know! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arpaul Posted December 29, 2014 Report Share Posted December 29, 2014 So........steam providing the undersoil heating? There me assuming it was powered by electric. Hot water - Not steam. Very much the same as underfloor heating. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Horse With No Name Posted December 29, 2014 Report Share Posted December 29, 2014 the one from west brom away circa 79? looks even better they had "snowboots"and we didnt Only game in the country to beat the weather IIRC, and the place was swarming with Man U fans whose game at Villa had been called off late. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B1ackbird Posted December 29, 2014 Report Share Posted December 29, 2014 Run a pipe over to shed mans house with a funnel on the end and I'm sure he'll boil a couple of kettles worth of water. Job done.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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