Guest Posted August 19, 2015 Report Share Posted August 19, 2015 As brilliant as the come back was....and was enjoyed, let's not get carried away with Reid and Burns. Reid is one who needs to be replaced and, overall, is not good enough if we want to progress at this standard. Burns....jury still out for me. Certainly not ready for a starting place week in week out. Would love them to be good enough and take this league by storm, but let's be realistic here please Let's be realistic, even a summer can be a long time in a young player's development. You're talking nonsense. Now is the time to encourage and too congratulate him and not knock his confidence by suggesting 'every dog has its day'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lordofthebling Posted August 19, 2015 Report Share Posted August 19, 2015 As brilliant as the come back was....and was enjoyed, let's not get carried away with Reid and Burns. Reid is one who needs to be replaced and, overall, is not good enough if we want to progress at this standard. Burns....jury still out for me. Certainly not ready for a starting place week in week out. Would love them to be good enough and take this league by storm, but let's be realistic here please Whilst I agree in part, I also disagree with the part that Reid is not good enough. I think he is, but struggles against the 'bigger boys' and lasting the full 90. He still needs to hit the gym, as he has all the attributes of being a great midfielder. One swallow does not make a summer, so I'd advise caution before we all get into a "I've always said he was good, you slated me" swinging contest. Burns is the one who is more raw with blistering pace. I struggle to know where his best position is to be honest... Striker? Winger? RWB? But, I've always rated both Burns and Reid, I'm also pleased that cotts seems to be giving them time and a chance to develop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex_BCFC Posted August 19, 2015 Report Share Posted August 19, 2015 Did very well tonight - good to see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 19, 2015 Report Share Posted August 19, 2015 Is werid how this forum turned on Reid and Burns last season, but both made their debuts when we were last in this league and were clearly good enough then/ SO it's not a shock that they are producing now. I'll never get this forum, is crazyI can't believe performances in a bog league like League Two is enough to determine a player could not slot in on a better surface and improve his performance even simply as a result of surrounded by much better quality. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Londoner Posted August 19, 2015 Report Share Posted August 19, 2015 i thought Robinson did ok considering it was his first start, made some great runs bit Kodjia didn't get his head up. Saying that Fredricks looked pretty awful and Williams I think might struggle at this level on the evidence of the last home games. Wouldn't have any issues with Burns starting at RWB at home games....Reid for me could do a job off the bench. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olé Posted August 19, 2015 Report Share Posted August 19, 2015 Agree - felt he was close to MOTM from just ten minutes, far more composed and able to find a teammate than any of his colleagues, our passing and through balls for the most part were awful. Pack was much worse than he was at Hillsborough, Reid was the positive, along with Korey Smith getting his game back for the first time this season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bemmyredjeff Posted August 19, 2015 Report Share Posted August 19, 2015 Let's not get ahead of ourselves quite yet! He came on and played ok against a very poor Leeds team. Wouldn't say he has proven himself at this level yet! Shaking my head reading these comments and finally a voice of reason. We will not play many worse and negative teams than Leeds. We shot ourselves twice in the foot ( and no more moans about opposition kicking the ball out when one of our players is injured ) and the game was petering out to a tame 2-0 defeat until agards goal out of nothing. Definitely papering over large cracks and if anyone thinks we would survive playing reid and burns regularly then they are in cloud cuckoo land. I'll reiterate...Leeds are a very poor side. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old_eastender Posted August 19, 2015 Report Share Posted August 19, 2015 Don't forget Burns was our best player .v. Sheff.Weds playing RWB, thought he should have kept that place for Luton. Certainly now ought to be starting ahead of Fredricks who has been quite disappointing so far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bemmyredjeff Posted August 19, 2015 Report Share Posted August 19, 2015 Let's be realistic, even a summer can be a long time in a young player's development. You're talking nonsense. Now is the time to encourage and too congratulate him and not knock his confidence by suggesting 'every dog has its day'. I honestly think you are getting carried away with the emotions of the last five minutes. Very surprised by your comments as they are normally very forthright. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 19, 2015 Report Share Posted August 19, 2015 Shaking my head reading these comments and finally a voice of reason. We will not play many worse and negative teams than Leeds. We shot ourselves twice in the foot ( and no more moans about opposition kicking the ball out when one of our players is injured ) and the game was petering out to a tame 2-0 defeat until agards goal out of nothing. Definitely papering over large cracks and if anyone thinks we would survive playing reid and burns regularly then they are in cloud cuckoo land. I'll reiterate...Leeds are a very poor side.Really? Looked an almost textbook away performance to me. Came here and slowed the tempo and picked us off on the counter attack. I say they had a plan and it very nearly worked. I stand by it. League two is no barometer for how you can perform in the Championship and we have no reason to expect this lad cannot do it, and I recall games like Charlton away and others from a few years ago. I also stand by the summer is a long time in development terms. And also the added confidence he can take from being around the first team. He has the quality and he has demonstrated it, he now deserves the chance to get some consistency, IMO. Perhaps I'm carried away; but I don't think it. I think it too early to write this boy off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Welcome To The Jungle Posted August 19, 2015 Report Share Posted August 19, 2015 Shaking my head reading these comments and finally a voice of reason. We will not play many worse and negative teams than Leeds. We shot ourselves twice in the foot ( and no more moans about opposition kicking the ball out when one of our players is injured ) and the game was petering out to a tame 2-0 defeat until agards goal out of nothing. Definitely papering over large cracks and if anyone thinks we would survive playing reid and burns regularly then they are in cloud cuckoo land. I'll reiterate...Leeds are a very poor side. Leeds were very organised and set up well. Our defence should hang its head but I don't think this Leeds team will concede too many this year. Not a bad side, just negative imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bemmyredjeff Posted August 19, 2015 Report Share Posted August 19, 2015 Really? Looked an almost textbook away performance to me. Came here and slowed the tempo and picked us off on the counter attack. I say they had a plan and it very nearly worked. I stand by it. League two is no barometer for how you can perform in the Championship and we have no reason to expect this lad cannot do it, and I recall games like Charlton away and others from a few years ago. I also stand by the summer is a long time in development terms. And also the added confidence he can take from being around the first team. He has the quality and he has demonstrated it, he now deserves the chance to get some consistency, IMO. Perhaps I'm carried away; but I don't think it. I think it too early to write this boy off. Well lets play burns and reid on Saturday and see what the outcome is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Numero Uno Posted August 19, 2015 Report Share Posted August 19, 2015 How anyone can say Reid did not have a direct impact on the game given he had a hand in both goals is beyond me. Burns looked lively and Agard also gave us something when he came on - poor goalkeeping for his goal but he scored it nonetheless. Cotterill has got to look at the formation or the personnel because we got caught on the break yet again. The second goal was Sunday Pub Team defending. We had FIVE players trying to track back in a line FORTY yards behind the play!! The first goal was also a comedy of errors from various people including the ref but, again, they broke on us and sliced us open. Brentford, we got caught on the break. Sheffield, second goal on the break. You cannot get caught out on the break as often as we do and not do something about it. On the positive side, IF Cotterill can do his job and get the players in we need we will only be travelling in one direction as the season progresses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy082005 Posted August 19, 2015 Report Share Posted August 19, 2015 Let's be realistic, even a summer can be a long time in a young player's development. You're talking nonsense. Now is the time to encourage and too congratulate him and not knock his confidence by suggesting 'every dog has its day'. Every dog does have his day that's the point. I'm amazed at how many people, on one 25 minute showing....now genuinely believes "he has come of age". He just is not good enough. Everyone has an opinion though. Let's see what happens if he starts Saturday. And before anyone says....I will be praying to be proved wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobBobSuperBob Posted August 19, 2015 Report Share Posted August 19, 2015 Not sure about either BR or WB making it at this level but at the point when they came on we looked like we didn't have as scooby what to do next, heads were down and we looked as if we could play till next Christmas without creating a threat They, (and I thought Korey. Smith with some chasing and a couple of challenges) 'sparked' us and Reid slipping his marker for Agards goal was more than Robinson contributed in his hour plus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Welcome To The Jungle Posted August 19, 2015 Report Share Posted August 19, 2015 Every dog does have his day that's the point. I'm amazed at how many people, on one 25 minute showing....now genuinely believes "he has come of age". He just is not good enough. Everyone has an opinion though. Let's see what happens if he starts Saturday. And before anyone says....I will be praying to be proved wrong. Many were saying Bryan was worse than Cunningham last summer. But he came back of the break a different beast. Perhaps Bobby has done the same. To say he is now ready is premature but you writing him off is also premature. Lets give him a few games (or at least the next two till Freeman is back) and judge him then Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted August 19, 2015 Report Share Posted August 19, 2015 Reid looked tidy in pre-season. Only issue is that he may not be able to last 90 mins. However then can bring Robinson on. I though CR played really well whilst he was on the pitch. Had plenty of energy, linked well with midfield and attack, and seemed to fit in well. Not saying BR wasn't decent when he came on, but let's give CR sone credit too. Wes was awful for first 5-10 minutes he came on, but he kept persevering, and git more effective as the game wore on. Neither BR or WB are finished articles by any stretch, but the bench doesn't look so weak as done people were making out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedBrizzleRobin Posted August 20, 2015 Report Share Posted August 20, 2015 Ried reminds me of Byran before last season, showed glimpses of what he could do but couldn't do it consistantly over 90 mins or several games. It came all together last season and Bryan turned into a very good player, imo if Ried can do the same he'll also turn into a handy player, the technical ability is there its his consistancy and application that is holding him back. Potential is there, but can he reach it like Bryan? As for Burns, he's still only 20! Loads of potential there, give him time, remember Bryan has 2 years on him! So only fair to give him another 1 - 2 years to develop. Personally out of the two though, Burns is the one I think who will most likely make it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nomad Posted August 20, 2015 Author Report Share Posted August 20, 2015 Thanks for your thoughts Mrs Reid. zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz Still trolling and adding **** all to the forum I see Robbored. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbored Posted August 20, 2015 Report Share Posted August 20, 2015 zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz Still trolling and adding **** all to the forum I see Robbored.It was a joke! It's not my fault that you didn't get it.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nomad Posted August 20, 2015 Author Report Share Posted August 20, 2015 It was a joke! It's not my fault that you didn't get it.... My apologies..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThOmO Posted August 20, 2015 Report Share Posted August 20, 2015 Bobby put in extra work before the pre-season started as did JB Hes a tremendously talented individual who just perhaps needs a run of a few games. JB was in and out of the side before he cemented his place last season, and now is a given to start if fit. What's to say Bobby can't do the same. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AshtonGreat Posted August 20, 2015 Report Share Posted August 20, 2015 I don't get why people keep saying that Bobby Reid can't do it over 90 mins. He's a professional athlete for God's sake. He's not just come out of the youth team Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marlborough Red Posted August 20, 2015 Report Share Posted August 20, 2015 Just to note that the team that started last night with all 3 new signings the fans demanded lost 2-0. All were taken off ,replaced with players already on the books included 2 fringe squad players and we won the last part of the game 2-0 . Wonder what team will start on Saturday? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 20, 2015 Report Share Posted August 20, 2015 It was a joke! It's not my fault that you didn't get it.... Poor communication skills? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
E.J.Thribb Posted August 20, 2015 Report Share Posted August 20, 2015 I was concerned when Reid came on as imo he's always had potential but didn't feel he could change the game. How wrong I was. Full of energy, hungry and chomping at the bit coupled with a lovely assist for our first goal. Hopefully he'll kick on this year and develop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CiderHider Posted August 20, 2015 Report Share Posted August 20, 2015 It was a joke! It's not my fault that you didn't get it.... My apologies..... :laugh:, the lack or the wrong smiley can get you in trouble Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lack of Action Man Posted August 20, 2015 Report Share Posted August 20, 2015 I don't think he changed the game, I think Leeds got sloppy. They rested on their laurels and Agard caught them out. I need to see more ftom BR, especially commanding his position more, before I will be able to look at him as someone who changes games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southvillekiddy Posted August 20, 2015 Report Share Posted August 20, 2015 Admittedly Leeds were poor but for me what showed up is that after all the pantomimes chasing the over-priced, we are good enough with the squad we have. Codger could have had 3 , Bobby turned the game, Kieran will run through concrete for City to get a goal, the stats show we bossed it but made stupid mistakes. Marlon and Derrick are okay when they have time but are not quick enough in this Leauge in an emergency. Marlon more or less gave up on the chase back. Regarding what I consider to be cobblers about Reid not being strong enough I recall that Wilson used to say the same sort of thing about Lita, nonsense. Start Bobby and Wes over Pack and Williams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedM Posted August 20, 2015 Report Share Posted August 20, 2015 I've written elsewhere that I'm quite shocked that Bobby and Wes after not even making our bench much in a League One are suddenly finding themselves the saviours last night. Maybe the last few months has been a major turnaround for them. Maybe seeing new players come in from outside and take what should be their places was a jolt? Who knows, last night it worked, let's see what happens next. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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