Phileas Fogg Posted December 7, 2016 Report Share Posted December 7, 2016 9 minutes ago, Super said: Have to say watching the gloves are off with AJ what a credit this guy is to his sport. None of this embarrassing trash talk rubbish fighting at press conferences etc unlike the morons we have seen in the past week. Top bloke no wonder people in this country are getting behind him. Don't agree there - I find him very boring to listen to. He's a bit like a footballer, lots of safe answers and not much personality. I much prefer more interesting characters for boxing, not ones that say the right things and talk about 'staying humble' all the time. I don't think the country are that enthused either, he's got nowhere near the following someone like Ricky Hatton had for example. People loved Hatton, there's no chance AJ would inspire thousands of fans to go to Vegas. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Posted December 7, 2016 Report Share Posted December 7, 2016 (edited) 12 minutes ago, Phileas Fogg said: Don't agree there - I find him very boring to listen to. He's a bit like a footballer, lots of safe answers and not much personality. I much prefer more interesting characters for boxing, not ones that say the right things and talk about 'staying humble' all the time. I don't think the country are that enthused either, he's got nowhere near the following someone like Ricky Hatton had for example. People loved Hatton, there's no chance AJ would inspire thousands of fans to go to Vegas. Disagree with that Hatton had massive following in Manchester, AJ has the support of the whole country. Hatton was also a bang average fighter. Edited December 7, 2016 by Super Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phileas Fogg Posted December 7, 2016 Report Share Posted December 7, 2016 2 minutes ago, Super said: Disagree with that Hatton had massive following in Manchester, AJ has the support of the whole country. Not so sure really, of course lots of his support came from Manchester but I think there was far more public interest in his fights vs Mayweather and Pacquiao than AJ fights. I think that is partly down to choice of opponents. Theoretically though, I think Hatton vs Mayweather would still have been a bigger event nationwide than if Joshua was fighting Klitschko. AJ is marketed pretty well. He looks like what people think a heavyweight boxer should look like physically. Bit of a rags to riches story who's turned his life around.. gold medal winner.. says the right things. Compare that to Fury, who I believe is a better boxer.. despite all his antics, he will never be completely accepted nationally due to his gypsy heritage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Posted December 7, 2016 Report Share Posted December 7, 2016 13 minutes ago, Phileas Fogg said: Not so sure really, of course lots of his support came from Manchester but I think there was far more public interest in his fights vs Mayweather and Pacquiao than AJ fights. I think that is partly down to choice of opponents. Theoretically though, I think Hatton vs Mayweather would still have been a bigger event nationwide than if Joshua was fighting Klitschko. AJ is marketed pretty well. He looks like what people think a heavyweight boxer should look like physically. Bit of a rags to riches story who's turned his life around.. gold medal winner.. says the right things. Compare that to Fury, who I believe is a better boxer.. despite all his antics, he will never be completely accepted nationally due to his gypsy heritage. I think that was more down to what big names Manny and Floyd were. Sadly the heavyweight division now doesn't have these since the likes of Tyson and Holyfield called it a day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phileas Fogg Posted December 7, 2016 Report Share Posted December 7, 2016 3 minutes ago, Super said: I think that was more down to what big names Manny and Floyd were. Sadly the heavyweight division now doesn't have these since the likes of Tyson and Holyfield called it a day. Well of course, but as I said - I don't think a theoretical Wlad vs AJ fight would better Hatton vs Mayweather for public interest. People loved Hatton, he was hugely popular. These links below are testament to that - Hearn predicts an optimistic 400,000 for this weekend whereas Hatton vs Matweather was around 3x that in the UK alone. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/othersports/boxing/2329041/Ricky-Hatton-shatters-viewing-record.html http://www.boxingnewsonline.net/eddie-hearn-on-the-anthony-joshua-vs-eric-molina-pay-per-view/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stortz Posted December 7, 2016 Report Share Posted December 7, 2016 It's an interesting debate. Hatton tapped in to the football supporting lad market, particularly around Manchester and his fans were rabidly loyal to him. He took tens of thousands to Vegas with him several times and his ppv figures for the Mayweather fight were amazing- well over 1 million buys for a fight at 5 am on a Sunday. I think AJ has a lot more crossover appeal to non boxing fans though and his potential earnings and popularity dwarf Hatton's in the long term, Ricky was at the peak of his career when getting that many buys, AJ is a relative novice. Thought AJ came over well in the IFL interview yesterday, less of a media trained gonk One final point @SuperI disagree with your 'bang average' rating of Hatton. He wasn't a very good boxer you're right, but he was the best pressure fighter this country has produced since Nigel Benn and fought 2 of the biggest names ever to get in the ring. Fair bloody play to him I say! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phileas Fogg Posted December 7, 2016 Report Share Posted December 7, 2016 (edited) 12 minutes ago, Stortz said: It's an interesting debate. Hatton tapped in to the football supporting lad market, particularly around Manchester and his fans were rabidly loyal to him. He took tens of thousands to Vegas with him several times and his ppv figures for the Mayweather fight were amazing- well over 1 million buys for a fight at 5 am on a Sunday. I think AJ has a lot more crossover appeal to non boxing fans though and his potential earnings and popularity dwarf Hatton's in the long term, Ricky was at the peak of his career when getting that many buys, AJ is a relative novice. Thought AJ came over well in the IFL interview yesterday, less of a media trained gonk One final point @SuperI disagree with your 'bang average' rating of Hatton. He wasn't a very good boxer you're right, but he was the best pressure fighter this country has produced since Nigel Benn and fought 2 of the biggest names ever to get in the ring. Fair bloody play to him I say! Agree, think if he carries on being marketed well he'll do very well in that crossover to non boxing fans. His face fits I think and if/when he wins World Heavyweight Champion eventually I think he'll probably win Sports Personality (unlike Fury). Getting Stormzy to do his ring walk performance was very clever and I think we'll see more of that going forward. Wonder if we will on Saturday? I predict some big entrance show. I disagreed with Super mainly that the country are that much behind AJ in comparison to Hatton. I don't think it's anywhere near yet. Give it a year or two though. I can't see him ever taking legions of fans to vegas. Perhaps that's partly the football lad market thing though. Same principle as following your football team. This is still an awesome video Edited December 7, 2016 by Phileas Fogg 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Posted December 7, 2016 Report Share Posted December 7, 2016 Groves has got himself another world title shot. http://www.skysports.com/boxing/news/12183/10686411/george-groves-to-face-fedor-chudinov-for-wba-world-super-middleweight-title Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Posted December 7, 2016 Report Share Posted December 7, 2016 (edited) Fair point maybe bang average was the wrong word Hatton was obviously a limited fighter but that took him a long way and took 2 of the greats to beat him. Not counting his last defeat as he was already finished. Really can't see this being much of a fight on Saturday I have seen nothing from Molina to suggest he thinks he can win. Edited December 7, 2016 by Super Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MichaelRobartes Posted December 7, 2016 Report Share Posted December 7, 2016 Proper press conference. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin phantom Posted December 7, 2016 Admin Report Share Posted December 7, 2016 What a pair of idiots - looks like a WWE pantomime Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stortz Posted December 7, 2016 Report Share Posted December 7, 2016 Yeah, probably for the best really Eddie haha! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stortz Posted December 7, 2016 Report Share Posted December 7, 2016 (edited) 14 minutes ago, phantom said: What a pair of idiots - looks like a WWE pantomime In fairness Chisora has been the instigator both times, Whyte has been fairly reasonable by comparison! Edited December 7, 2016 by Stortz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid in the Riot Posted December 7, 2016 Report Share Posted December 7, 2016 Actually warming to Dillian, quite a funny bloke. Hope he wins. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stortz Posted December 7, 2016 Report Share Posted December 7, 2016 Footage of the aftermath earlier. Fantastically, epically NSFW... Eddie Hearn's voice goes up many octaves when Delboy goes for him and poor Adam Smith nearly craps himself hahaha! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid in the Riot Posted December 7, 2016 Report Share Posted December 7, 2016 (edited) Poor old Haye and Bellew must both be thinking 'how do we top this?' Edited December 7, 2016 by Kid in the Riot Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yardy Posted December 8, 2016 Report Share Posted December 8, 2016 On 02/12/2016 at 22:22, Stortz said: I totally agree; i think Paulie is one of the most insightful, intelligent callers of fights I've ever heard. At the same time, I can see why he would grate if you didn't like the cut of his jib and vicariously appreciate @Super's dislike of him! Look at this though, they guy is class imo Paulie will always be a legend in my eyes, just because he's the only fighter i have ever seen getting a hair cut in his corner between rounds! Think it was a co-main fight and Hatton was main fight, crazy stuff Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stortz Posted December 8, 2016 Report Share Posted December 8, 2016 1 hour ago, yardy said: Paulie will always be a legend in my eyes, just because he's the only fighter i have ever seen getting a hair cut in his corner between rounds! Think it was a co-main fight and Hatton was main fight, crazy stuff You're right mate, it was indeed on the undercard of Hatton Lazcano in Manchester in May 2008- the fight when Ricky did his ringwalk in a fat suit haha. The hair crimes Paulie has committed are legion... @Super will enjoy that greatly no doubt! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joe jordans teeth Posted December 8, 2016 Author Report Share Posted December 8, 2016 Looks like chisora whyte is off Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MichaelRobartes Posted December 8, 2016 Report Share Posted December 8, 2016 Ortiz looks like he's seen better days. How old is he? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stortz Posted December 8, 2016 Report Share Posted December 8, 2016 1 hour ago, Tomarse said: Rumours at this stage but Sky not helping dismiss it with this... something missing? If it is then perhaps its a wake up call for Hearn that he can't have every fight build up be as stupid as the last few. Leaves Hearn in a world of shit if so, he'll be under pressure to reduce or pull the ppv. I read on Boxing News this morning that the board were meeting today and could cancel the fight, but I didn't really think they'd have the balls to do it. They are in serious danger of pissing off the man with golden goose and Sky if they do. I don't think they'd have tried to assert their authority like this a few months ago but in view of the Warren/ BT Sport tie up are obviously feeling emboldened. It's a shame Delboy is such a lunatic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stortz Posted December 8, 2016 Report Share Posted December 8, 2016 It's ok everyone, it's ON! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stortz Posted December 10, 2016 Report Share Posted December 10, 2016 (edited) Good morning, it's fight day! Parker Ruiz is starting soon on Boxnation. Edited December 10, 2016 by Stortz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joe jordans teeth Posted December 10, 2016 Author Report Share Posted December 10, 2016 55 minutes ago, Stortz said: Good morning, it's fight day! Parker Ruiz is starting soon on Boxnation. Yep got it on mate,they are all a bit emotional in the crowd 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stortz Posted December 10, 2016 Report Share Posted December 10, 2016 11 minutes ago, joe jordans teeth said: Yep got it on mate,they are all a bit emotional in the crowd Could be a cracker this! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stortz Posted December 10, 2016 Report Share Posted December 10, 2016 Ruiz could have laid off the tacos a bit more, he is one doughy Mexican 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joe jordans teeth Posted December 10, 2016 Author Report Share Posted December 10, 2016 21 minutes ago, Stortz said: Ruiz could have laid off the tacos a bit more, he is one doughy Mexican He does look like he likes his food :laugh: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stortz Posted December 10, 2016 Report Share Posted December 10, 2016 Parker's hand speed is great but he seriously lacks genuine power imo. He's surely won that though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joe jordans teeth Posted December 10, 2016 Author Report Share Posted December 10, 2016 Enjoyed that,yeh Parker by a few Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stortz Posted December 10, 2016 Report Share Posted December 10, 2016 114-114 and 113- 115 twice. Joshua has nothing to worry about there. That is one easy unification fight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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