spudski Posted September 17, 2015 Report Share Posted September 17, 2015 so it only 'usually' represents a fair reflection? If you're arguing that point then surely it wouldn't be usually but alwaysNot sure where you are coming from Lou....where have I used the word 'Usually'? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BS4 on Tour... Posted September 17, 2015 Report Share Posted September 17, 2015 Why is every away ground 'a hard place to come' according to every manager in pre and post match interviews...? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
One Team In Keynsham Posted September 17, 2015 Report Share Posted September 17, 2015 Why is every away ground 'a hard place to come' according to every manager in pre and post match interviews...?Bad road signs? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southside Posted September 17, 2015 Report Share Posted September 17, 2015 "Denied by the post, bar, woodwork", drives me f**kin' nuts! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aizoon Posted September 17, 2015 Report Share Posted September 17, 2015 As I understand it the term "6 pointer" applies to the situation where one team starts the game 3 points ahead of the other team. Thus, if that team wins the match they will then be 6 points ahead. Alternatively if the lower placed team wins they will draw level, thus effectively saving that 6 point gap. I think that in this situation, and this situation ONLY, the term "6-pointer" makes sense as the game will either result in the existence of a 6 point gap or the saving of the 6 point gap (ignoring a draw of course). Unfortunately it is now basically used to describe any game that seems vaguely important or is between two teams expected to finish close to each other. It means the difference in the GAP between the two teams depending on the result. Imagine that they're level before the game. If A wins it goes 3 points ahead of team B, if it loses then it goes three points behind. The difference is six points. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
downendcity Posted September 17, 2015 Report Share Posted September 17, 2015 Players giving 110%.A mathematical impossibility. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
One Team In Keynsham Posted September 17, 2015 Report Share Posted September 17, 2015 Players giving 110%.A mathematical impossibility.When a team has a man sent off, and the remaining 9 outfield players are "giving 110%", this results in 9x110= 990 [unnamed units] of effort.Hopefully when they start with 10 men, and each is giving the baseline 100%, this translates to 1000 units. Clearly giving 110% when a man down is not enough, and the remaining players should be ashamed of their lack of commitment. 111.111% of effort is the bare minimum any manager should be expecting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pongo88 Posted September 17, 2015 Report Share Posted September 17, 2015 After a player has been sent off, so called pundits often say that it's more difficult playing against 10 men. If this is the case, why don't teams start with 10 men? There is no rule that you must have 11 players on the pitch. Why not make it really difiicult for the opposition by only starting with 9 men? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BS13 Robin Posted September 17, 2015 Report Share Posted September 17, 2015 they set their stall out early doors gets me everytime.................its a football match not a bleeding car boot sale!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
downendcity Posted September 17, 2015 Report Share Posted September 17, 2015 After a player has been sent off, so called pundits often say that it's more difficult playing against 10 men. If this is the case, why don't teams start with 10 men? There is no rule that you must have 11 players on the pitch. Why not make it really difiicult for the opposition by only starting with 9 men?This Ron Atkinson special is along similar lines..."Now Manchester United are 2-1 down on aggregate they are in a better position than when they started the game at 1-1."That also reminds me that leading 2-0 is a dangerous score. Why? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cityexile Posted September 17, 2015 Report Share Posted September 17, 2015 The line I hear more and more that really gets my goat is 'he was entitled to go down there'.Translation - 'he is entitled to dive there'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Southstandoriginal Posted September 17, 2015 Report Share Posted September 17, 2015 Referees " letting the game flow" is one I've never understood. What are they supposed to do, turn a blind eye to infringements, that would go down well with crowds and managers up and down the land wouldn't it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joe jordans teeth Posted September 17, 2015 Report Share Posted September 17, 2015 About Johnny Foreigner"will they like it in Stoke on a cold and wet Tuesday night in January ",surely even English players don't like that,Stoke on a summers day isn't great Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InCider Posted September 17, 2015 Report Share Posted September 17, 2015 A lot of luck is involved....although you make your own luck....There's another! How do you make your own luck?lucklʌk/nounnoun: luck1.success or failure apparently brought by chance rather than through one's own actions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
One Team In Keynsham Posted September 17, 2015 Report Share Posted September 17, 2015 they set their stall out early doors gets me everytime.................its a football match not a bleeding car boot sale!!!The keeper will appreciate that early touch, especially with the greasy surface from the overnight rain as they are playing left to right as we look from our gantry position. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I am the mole Posted September 17, 2015 Report Share Posted September 17, 2015 Not for me, Clive."That's better" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MichaelRobartes Posted September 17, 2015 Report Share Posted September 17, 2015 "That's better"Go on! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spudski Posted September 17, 2015 Report Share Posted September 17, 2015 There's another! How do you make your own luck?lucklʌk/nounnoun: luck1.success or failure apparently brought by chance rather than through one's own actions.Quiet easily.... by being in the right place to allow that luck to happen. If you're not in the penalty box you're not going to ever get a penalty.In other words....the more proficient you are, the greater your chances of that luck happening. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lanterne Rouge Posted September 17, 2015 Report Share Posted September 17, 2015 Remember one from our very own programme years ago in an `on this day` feature `The game, which was goalless, ended in a draw` Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhistleHappy Posted September 17, 2015 Report Share Posted September 17, 2015 they set their stall out early doors gets me everytime.................its a football match not a bleeding car boot sale!!!...two for the price of one there GR .... 'Early Doors' .... bugs me, what bloody doors? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InCider Posted September 17, 2015 Report Share Posted September 17, 2015 Quiet easily.... by being in the right place to allow that luck to happen. If you're not in the penalty box you're not going to ever get a penalty.In other words....the more proficient you are, the greater your chances of that luck happening.It's not luck if you're in the right place because you've chosen to be there. The outcome is influenced by your own deliberate actions. Luck is something that happens purely by chance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joe jordans teeth Posted September 17, 2015 Report Share Posted September 17, 2015 It's not luck if you're in the right place because you've chosen to be there. The outcome is influenced by your own deliberate actions. Luck is something that happens purely by chance.if you're in the box and a cross comes in which is nowhere near you but takes a few deflections and your pushed in the back and you trip over and it strikes your bounce and goes in,surely that's luck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joe jordans teeth Posted September 17, 2015 Report Share Posted September 17, 2015 Readings 94th minute winner Saturday that is Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robin1988 Posted September 17, 2015 Report Share Posted September 17, 2015 Referees " letting the game flow" is one I've never understood. What are they supposed to do, turn a blind eye to infringements, that would go down well with crowds and managers up and down the land wouldn't it?Nothing wrong with that one. Some games you clamp down on infringements, some you 'let it flow'. Depends on the players and some refs read it a lot better than others. It's pretty commonly used. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Port Said Red Posted September 17, 2015 Report Share Posted September 17, 2015 I have noticed a lot of commentators talking like the game is over when a team gets a 2 goal lead around the 80th minute, like the other team can't possibly score late goals to get back in it. it seems a strange thing to do, especially as so few games finish in 90 minutes these days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spudski Posted September 17, 2015 Report Share Posted September 17, 2015 It's not luck if you're in the right place because you've chosen to be there. The outcome is influenced by your own deliberate actions. Luck is something that happens purely by chance.Of course... that's the point of what we are talking about.If I don't buy a lottery ticket...i'm never going to have the luck of the reward of winning.The same in football...if i'm not in the box...I'm never going to win a penalty.Simple as that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InCider Posted September 17, 2015 Report Share Posted September 17, 2015 I get where you're coming from Spudski, but don't see how you're making any luck. The luck bit is separate. You're just changing the circumstances in which luck may or may not happen. You might decide to hang outside the penalty area rather than inside. You're probably less likely to win a penalty for example but this might drag a defender out of position who then inadvertently deflects the ball in. Everything you do on a football pitch may result in a fortunate or unfortunate outcome. Just don't really get what making your own luck actually means. In regards to luck, someone hits the crossbar and the commentator will say it's poor luck. It's not, it's poor finishing. The player has missed the target. When teams are unlucky not to win as they've had 10 shots on target, is that again not down to bad finishing/good goalkeeping, rather than luck? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brizzlelou Posted September 18, 2015 Author Report Share Posted September 18, 2015 Not sure where you are coming from Lou....where have I used the word 'Usually'?the original quote says usually Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spudski Posted September 18, 2015 Report Share Posted September 18, 2015 I get where you're coming from Spudski, but don't see how you're making any luck. The luck bit is separate. You're just changing the circumstances in which luck may or may not happen. You might decide to hang outside the penalty area rather than inside. You're probably less likely to win a penalty for example but this might drag a defender out of position who then inadvertently deflects the ball in. Everything you do on a football pitch may result in a fortunate or unfortunate outcome. Just don't really get what making your own luck actually means. In regards to luck, someone hits the crossbar and the commentator will say it's poor luck. It's not, it's poor finishing. The player has missed the target. When teams are unlucky not to win as they've had 10 shots on target, is that again not down to bad finishing/good goalkeeping, rather than luck? With respect, think we're getting a tad pedantic here.The gist is...if you play well and get in the right positions....as in and around the box, then scoring a goal with luck involved, is more likely to happen.There is a famous quote by the golfer Gary Player.....who when told he was a lucky golfer, his response was...'funny that, the harder I train, the luckier I get'.You've got to be in the right positions....think We'll call it a day here, as we'll end up going round in circles ;-)Check out 'luck and skill untangled in sports'....it makes a lot of sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abraham Romanovich Posted September 18, 2015 Report Share Posted September 18, 2015 "To be fair, he's not that kind of player": only used to describe anyone (other than Joey Barton) who has just flattened an opponent with a horrendously timed and viciously high tackle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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