SecretSam Posted September 24, 2015 Report Share Posted September 24, 2015 ...how many of them will be facing us on Saturday? Gerks, Skuse, Pitman...none of them were "good enough". Add to that all the other "not good enoughs" across the Championship, and you've got a pretty tasty team.**** me. Boo hoo hoo. Sigh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lack of Action Man Posted September 24, 2015 Report Share Posted September 24, 2015 Amazing how those players were written off by so many, for such rubbish reasons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brizzlelou Posted September 24, 2015 Report Share Posted September 24, 2015 Skuse just wanted to stay in the championship though...didn't he? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheCulturalBomb Posted September 24, 2015 Report Share Posted September 24, 2015 Pitman left because his dog couldn't get used to the grass in Long Ashton. True story. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Posted September 24, 2015 Report Share Posted September 24, 2015 Not forgetting Freddie Sears who some on here thought wasn't good enough for us when we were linked with him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mad Cyril Posted September 24, 2015 Report Share Posted September 24, 2015 Meanwhile, our cast off managers are thriving in the Scottish and English Premier leagues... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
City Ben Posted September 24, 2015 Report Share Posted September 24, 2015 Meanwhile, our cast off managers are thriving in the Scottish and English Premier leagues...I was listening to a podcast this morning that touched on Aberdeen... eight wins on the bounce for McInnes there so far this season, best start of any team in Europe! Clearly not as dreadful a manager as he seemed to be when he was here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ontariored Posted September 24, 2015 Report Share Posted September 24, 2015 Skuse just wanted to stay in the championship though...didn't he? Yes, that is what I remember also. Skuse was well respected at BCFC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frenchay Red Posted September 24, 2015 Report Share Posted September 24, 2015 I was listening to a podcast this morning that touched on Aberdeen... eight wins on the bounce for McInnes there so far this season, best start of any team in Europe! Clearly not as dreadful a manager as he seemed to be when he was here. I think FGR did 9. About the same standard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wheatus59 Posted September 24, 2015 Report Share Posted September 24, 2015 I was listening to a podcast this morning that touched on Aberdeen... eight wins on the bounce for McInnes there so far this season, best start of any team in Europe! Clearly not as dreadful a manager as he seemed to be when he was here. Are you saying we were wrong to sack him then ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wheatus59 Posted September 24, 2015 Report Share Posted September 24, 2015 Meanwhile, our cast off managers are thriving in the Scottish and English Premier leagues...We didn't cast Pulis off , the greedy bas***d left us for more dosh ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SecretSam Posted September 24, 2015 Author Report Share Posted September 24, 2015 We didn't cast Pulis off , the greedy bas***d left us for more dosh !And let's be honest, we happily waved him off, and celebrated his exit. He wasn't popular.McInnes, I think, should have been given more time. He inherited a mess, with confidence low, and didn't know the English leagues so well. Given time and someone like Keith Burt to support his transfer dealings, he might have done OK. Early on the transformation was incredible under him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin Ian M Posted September 24, 2015 Admin Report Share Posted September 24, 2015 Pitman left because his dog couldn't get used to the grass in Long Ashton. True story.Surely you mean Ashton Vale, the dog-walking nirvana. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SecretSam Posted September 24, 2015 Author Report Share Posted September 24, 2015 Surely you mean Ashton Vale, the dog-shitting nirvana.FTFY Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CyderInACan Posted September 24, 2015 Report Share Posted September 24, 2015 And let's be honest, we happily waved him off, and celebrated his exit. He wasn't popular. And the award for Understatement of the Century goes to . . . (or we you just trying to be nice to him, Sam!?) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fordy62 Posted September 24, 2015 Report Share Posted September 24, 2015 Skuse yes. Pitman maybe. But FFS can we please stop grouping Dean Gerken in with them. He was ******* useless (apart from the Forest game). I'd rather we signed a jar of gherkins. Honestly. People will be suggesting we signed that Romaine Sawyers next. Un-*******-believable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spoons Posted September 24, 2015 Report Share Posted September 24, 2015 skuse left on his terms. He wanted championship football and a new challenge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CyderInACan Posted September 24, 2015 Report Share Posted September 24, 2015 Skuse was the marmite player Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lack of Action Man Posted September 24, 2015 Report Share Posted September 24, 2015 Skuse yes. Pitman maybe. But FFS can we please stop grouping Dean Gerken in with them. He was ******* useless (apart from the Forest game). I'd rather we signed a jar of gherkins. Honestly. People will be suggesting we signed that Romaine Sawyers next. Un-*******-believable. I'd actually say Skuse was the weakest of those three. But sometimes a fresh club and fresh approach can kick start (or certainly reinvigorate) a players career - as has happened with him. No hard Feelings towards any of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrahamC Posted September 24, 2015 Report Share Posted September 24, 2015 Skuse yes. Pitman maybe. But FFS can we please stop grouping Dean Gerken in with them. He was ******* useless (apart from the Forest game). I'd rather we signed a jar of gherkins. Honestly. People will be suggesting we signed that Romaine Sawyers next. Un-*******-believable. You seem to have some sort of problem with Gerken, the truth is he was a decent keeper for us and has played regularly since for Ipswich, where, trust me, big Mick won't accept bluffers.In the season we stayed up under McInnes he was immense at Forest and we'd have gone down if he hadn't replaced David James, plus under GJ he had an absolute stormer at Newcastle.I certainly don't think that either of our current two keepers are necessarily any better than him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbored Posted September 24, 2015 Report Share Posted September 24, 2015 I'd actually say Skuse was the weakest of those three. But sometimes a fresh club and fresh approach can kick start (or certainly reinvigorate) a players career - as has happened with him. You thought Skuse was a weak player? FFS....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Horse With No Name Posted September 24, 2015 Report Share Posted September 24, 2015 Skuse yes. Pitman maybe. But FFS can we please stop grouping Dean Gerken in with them. He was ******* useless (apart from the Forest game). I'd rather we signed a jar of gherkins. Honestly. People will be suggesting we signed that Romaine Sawyers next. Un-*******-believable. surely it was the Newcastle game wasnt it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spoons Posted September 24, 2015 Report Share Posted September 24, 2015 I'd actually say Skuse was the weakest of those three. But sometimes a fresh club and fresh approach can kick start (or certainly reinvigorate) a players career - as has happened with him. No hard Feelings towards any of them.to say skuse was a weaker player than gerken or pitman is truly laughable!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Red Rich Posted September 24, 2015 Report Share Posted September 24, 2015 Meanwhile, our cast off managers are thriving in the Scottish and English Premier leagues...and internationally!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lack of Action Man Posted September 24, 2015 Report Share Posted September 24, 2015 Well feel free to enlighten me as to what Skuse did that elevated him to the giddy heights above Pitman and Gerken, because it certainly wasn't A) scoring goals or b) stopping goals.Pitman is a classy finisher, he scored many important goals for us and that can't ever be underestimated. Perhaps a bit like Jet, in that he would never be the sort of player to chase down every ball, he didn't forge a bond with the fans that his potential should've done. Gerken to this day is maligned for being Basso's successor when everyone was still in love with him and his mantra of belief. When you take the blinkers off you have to realise that whilst he may never be outstanding, Gerken is a relatively competent goalkeeper for the English second tier. On Gerkens ability, I'm afraid I trust the knowledge and thought of a professional manager, nay a professional manager who has managed numerous teams in the higher tiers of English football, to pass judgement on a goalkeepers ability, rather than the usual forum keyboard warriors.So we come to Skuse. Again a player with lots of potential but couldnt for whatever reason do it here. Tell me do any of you put him in the class of midfielders like Doherty, Elliott or Hartley? He didn't demonstrate consistently enough a range of passing that could control a game, nor did he display the physical presence to be a midfield stopper. So in that sense I'm afraid he very much WAS weak. HOWEVER, as I elaborated upon earlier it was never a question of him not being able to unlock or develop these qualities and further improve as a player - it just was never going to happen at AG. He has since added a more versatile range of passing to his game and is the go to player for the tractor boys to initiate the link between defence and attack. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BS4 on Tour... Posted September 24, 2015 Report Share Posted September 24, 2015 surely it was the Newcastle game wasnt it?Nah - the televised game away at Forest - Deano made some worldie saves! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BS4 on Tour... Posted September 24, 2015 Report Share Posted September 24, 2015 I think FGR did 9. About the same standard.Watched much Scottish football 'live' chief? Or is this just another blinkered, 'follow the herd' view to gain a few chuckles?Scotland qualified for five consecutive World Cups from 1974 to 1990 which England couldn't match, despite having more than five times the population of Scotland and thereby more players to choose from.And do you remember when Rangers stuffed the very good Leeds team of 1992 over two legs in Europe? You know the Leeds team with the midfield of Batty, Speed, McAllister and Strachan who had just won the top division in England?Anyway, fast forward to now, you really think Forest Green Rovers can hold their own in the Scottish Premier League?If you have watched a lot of 'live' football in Scotland then I apologise, but, for a variety of reasons, I've watched games all over Scotland and you'd be surprised... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
REDOXO Posted September 24, 2015 Report Share Posted September 24, 2015 Watched much Scottish football 'live' chief? Or is this just another blinkered, 'follow the herd' view to gain a few chuckles?Scotland qualified for five consecutive World Cups from 1974 to 1990 which England couldn't match, despite having more than five times the population of Scotland and thereby more players to choose from.And do you remember when Rangers stuffed the very good Leeds team of 1992 over two legs in Europe? You know the Leeds team with the midfield of Batty, Speed, McAllister and Strachan who had just won the top division in England?Anyway, fast forward to now, you really think Forest Green Rovers can hold their own in the Scottish Premier League?If you have watched a lot of 'live' football in Scotland then I apologise, but, for a variety of reasons, I've watched games all over Scotland and you'd be surprised...Celtic out of Champions league are they not or did I dream that. Scotland struggling to qualify for the Euros. I find it hard to recall the name of a single Scottish player that would get in the Wales team let alone England. Scotland is having a talentless period and their league poor. Hopefully they can turn it around as I miss the competition Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spoons Posted September 24, 2015 Report Share Posted September 24, 2015 Well feel free to enlighten me as to what Skuse did that elevated him to the giddy heights above Pitman and Gerken, because it certainly wasn't A) scoring goals or b) stopping goals.Pitman is a classy finisher, he scored many important goals for us and that can't ever be underestimated. Perhaps a bit like Jet, in that he would never be the sort of player to chase down every ball, he didn't forge a bond with the fans that his potential should've done. Gerken to this day is maligned for being Basso's successor when everyone was still in love with him and his mantra of belief. When you take the blinkers off you have to realise that whilst he may never be outstanding, Gerken is a relatively competent goalkeeper for the English second tier. On Gerkens ability, I'm afraid I trust the knowledge and thought of a professional manager, nay a professional manager who has managed numerous teams in the higher tiers of English football, to pass judgement on a goalkeepers ability, rather than the usual forum keyboard warriors.So we come to Skuse. Again a player with lots of potential but couldnt for whatever reason do it here. Tell me do any of you put him in the class of midfielders like Doherty, Elliott or Hartley? He didn't demonstrate consistently enough a range of passing that could control a game, nor did he display the physical presence to be a midfield stopper. So in that sense I'm afraid he very much WAS weak. HOWEVER, as I elaborated upon earlier it was never a question of him not being able to unlock or develop these qualities and further improve as a player - it just was never going to happen at AG. He has since added a more versatile range of passing to his game and is the go to player for the tractor boys to initiate the link between defence and attack. To say skuse' couldn't for whatever reasons , do it here' is staggering. He had a spell where he was one of the first picks in the team. He wasn't in the team to score goals, he was in the team to be a defensive midfielder. Be the link between the back 4 and the midfield. He could pass well and tackle well. His consistency was one of his strengths. Always 7/10 minimum. Never sais gerkin and pitman weren't good players , they are. But cole skuse had a long career with us and I for one loved watching him play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frenchay Red Posted September 24, 2015 Report Share Posted September 24, 2015 Watched much Scottish football 'live' chief? Or is this just another blinkered, 'follow the herd' view to gain a few chuckles?Scotland qualified for five consecutive World Cups from 1974 to 1990 which England couldn't match, despite having more than five times the population of Scotland and thereby more players to choose from.And do you remember when Rangers stuffed the very good Leeds team of 1992 over two legs in Europe? You know the Leeds team with the midfield of Batty, Speed, McAllister and Strachan who had just won the top division in England?Anyway, fast forward to now, you really think Forest Green Rovers can hold their own in the Scottish Premier League?If you have watched a lot of 'live' football in Scotland then I apologise, but, for a variety of reasons, I've watched games all over Scotland and you'd be surprised...Bit of an outburst there "chief", and no chuckles from you I suspect.Doesn't alter my opinion though and yes I do think these days top conference teams are on a par with lower SPL teams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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