Nomad Posted October 25, 2015 Report Share Posted October 25, 2015 Jose next? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lack of Action Man Posted October 25, 2015 Report Share Posted October 25, 2015 Nah Jose won't be sacked, he will realise more than most how badly he messed up pre season. Chelsea will be right back on it next season. As for Sherwood, think he's probably going to have to go the way of Moyes now and find employment abroad to prove himself. Can't see anyone taking a punt on him now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slippin cider Posted October 25, 2015 Report Share Posted October 25, 2015 After yesterday's performance it wouldn't surprise me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Posted October 25, 2015 Report Share Posted October 25, 2015 Sherwood talks a good game but that's about it. next job won't be premier league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigTone Posted October 25, 2015 Report Share Posted October 25, 2015 Welcome home Mr Moyes ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 25, 2015 Report Share Posted October 25, 2015 Dont like Sherwood but I don't think this is a blot on his career. His achievements last year for me would just about wipe the nose of the disastrous start, and some allowances must be made again for a 'transfer committee'. I can appreciate the logic behind removing transfer strategy from one man, but I don't get why the manager then has to take the bullet for that collective's failings. It's one thing to mismanage, quite another to fail to polish a turd. I think Sherwood falls in to the latter in this instance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B1ackbird Posted October 25, 2015 Report Share Posted October 25, 2015 Welcome home Mr Moyes ?Could be the case Tone, but with Villa up for sale, he's not going to back the next boss is he? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nomad Posted October 25, 2015 Author Report Share Posted October 25, 2015 Moyes is favourite according to 5live. They also stated that Real Sociedad fans chant 'Moyes out' in English. Not sure why they need to translate a single word for him unless his Spanish lessons are going that badly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobBobSuperBob Posted October 25, 2015 Report Share Posted October 25, 2015 Sherwood - all bluff Been found out for me Big difference between coaching U21s and managing at top level or in fact any level Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
One BCFC Posted October 25, 2015 Report Share Posted October 25, 2015 Villa will struggle every season no matter who is in charge. Cant help but feel they may need to go down to possibly come back up stronger. Such a losing mentality at that club the past 5 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedM Posted October 25, 2015 Report Share Posted October 25, 2015 I didn't even consider Moyes for the Villa job, but of course I'd love him back, and I'd quite like him back at a team I didn't hate too. I must admit when I heard Sherwood had gone that Brendan would be going there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrahamC Posted October 25, 2015 Report Share Posted October 25, 2015 Villa are a huge mess, whether that is down to Sherwood or not.This summer they lost their best (only?) striker in Benteke, their best midfielder in Delph and their best defender in Vlaar. A year ago they bought a lot of English players, many of whom weren't good enough, so this summer they bought a load of unknown foreign players who also look like they aren't good enough.Their owner has been trying to sell for a couple of years, their scouting set up is patently awful. If we stay up we'll probably play them next year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbored Posted October 25, 2015 Report Share Posted October 25, 2015 No big surprise to see TS sacked especially after his comments yesterday about the club being in a mess.Villa have been in a mess since O'Neill walked.Danny Murphy was spot on (as usual) when he questioned on MOTD last night who is actually signing the players......too many there are simply not PL quality. Murphy talks so much sense. Very refreshing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted October 25, 2015 Report Share Posted October 25, 2015 Not really a surprise. I quite like Sherwood, but sometimes he takes the cockiness too far.As for Jose, I think he is building his escape plan perfectly. Another fine and a ban coming up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cider red Posted October 25, 2015 Report Share Posted October 25, 2015 More importantly, will baker and Robinson be re called? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phileas Fogg Posted October 25, 2015 Report Share Posted October 25, 2015 More importantly, will baker and Robinson be re called? It wouldn't surprise me if we paid a fee for the Baker loan so I think that means he can't be recalled. A new manager may want a look at Robinson and send him out to somewhere to get more games though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Selred Posted October 25, 2015 Report Share Posted October 25, 2015 Villa are a huge mess, whether that is down to Sherwood or not.This summer they lost their best (only?) striker in Benteke, their best midfielder in Delph and their best defender in Vlaar. A year ago they bought a lot of English players, many of whom weren't good enough, so this summer they bought a load of unknown foreign players who also look like they aren't good enough.Their owner has been trying to sell for a couple of years, their scouting set up is patently awful. If we stay up we'll probably play them next year.Crazy to think that Vlaar hasn't got another club yet! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alessandro Posted October 25, 2015 Report Share Posted October 25, 2015 I think the criticism leveled at Sherwood is pretty harsh. I know a big football agent, who manages Paul Lambert (also very highly rated when he went to Villa) who has some interesting stories to tell about Villa, especially wage structure and transfer policy/possibility, or lack there of.The problem is not Lambert or Sherwood, it's Randy, ask any Villa fan, they all want him gone, he is running the club into the ground.As for Sherwood, don't forget his win record at Spurs was as good as any, there's some big names on this list. I'm sure he will get another chance and could be a top manager.Tim Sherwood - 59%Andre Villas-Boas - 53.7%, Mauricio Pochettino - 52%,Harry Redknapp - 49.3%,Juane Ramos - 28.57% Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chairman Mao Posted October 25, 2015 Report Share Posted October 25, 2015 Crazy to think that Vlaar hasn't got another club yet!seriously?! He's a great defender he'd be a good back up for someone like le Arse Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marina's Rolls Royce Posted October 25, 2015 Report Share Posted October 25, 2015 Sherwood talks a good game but that's about it. next job won't be premier league.He seems a really good fit for Forest Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Don Posted October 25, 2015 Report Share Posted October 25, 2015 Always find it strange how teams like Villa hire & fire after a few bad results, the team will always be in that space between 11th to 20th every single season unless major investment is made, regardless of which mediocre manager they bring in. Their only hope each season is a decent cup run which Sherwood oversaw last season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glynriley Posted October 25, 2015 Report Share Posted October 25, 2015 Crazy to think that Vlaar hasn't got another club yet!Injured, had a knee op in the summer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alessandro Posted October 25, 2015 Report Share Posted October 25, 2015 seriously?! He's a great defender he'd be a good back up for someone like le ArseHe is still out injured, having had two operations on his knee in a short period, I think the last one was on knee ligaments. So at 30ish now, it would a gamble for any club to sign him up, just to pay for his re-hab when he may never recover fully again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lanterne Rouge Posted October 25, 2015 Report Share Posted October 25, 2015 It wouldn't surprise me if we paid a fee for the Baker loan so I think that means he can't be recalled. A new manager may want a look at Robinson and send him out to somewhere to get more games though.Lets hope so. One player we don`t want to lose at the moment after his last few performances. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wheatus59 Posted October 25, 2015 Report Share Posted October 25, 2015 I think the criticism leveled at Sherwood is pretty harsh. I know a big football agent, who manages Paul Lambert (also very highly rated when he went to Villa) who has some interesting stories to tell about Villa, especially wage structure and transfer policy/possibility, or lack there of.The problem is not Lambert or Sherwood, it's Randy, ask any Villa fan, they all want him gone, he is running the club into the ground.As for Sherwood, don't forget his win record at Spurs was as good as any, there's some big names on this list. I'm sure he will get another chance and could be a top manager.Tim Sherwood - 59%Andre Villas-Boas - 53.7%, Mauricio Pochettino - 52%,Harry Redknapp - 49.3%,Juane Ramos - 28.57% I don't think you can quote figures when Sherwood has hardly managed many games . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alessandro Posted October 25, 2015 Report Share Posted October 25, 2015 I don't think you can quote figures when Sherwood has hardly managed many games .You could argue that, but it doesn't make those figures any less factual, and they highlight the decent job he did for Spurs in short time (it was 17 games). Who knows what he would have done if he were given the full time job? We will never know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wheatus59 Posted October 25, 2015 Report Share Posted October 25, 2015 You could argue that, but it doesn't make those figures any less factual, and they highlight the decent job he did for Spurs in short time (it was 17 games). Who knows what he would have done if he were given the full time job? We will never know.I think he needs to go championship , league 1 , learn his trade from there . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lanterne Rouge Posted October 25, 2015 Report Share Posted October 25, 2015 Isn`t he best buddies with Lee Power going back to their Norwich days? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eddie Hitler Posted October 25, 2015 Report Share Posted October 25, 2015 You could argue that, but it doesn't make those figures any less factual, and they highlight the decent job he did for Spurs in short time (it was 17 games). Who knows what he would have done if he were given the full time job? We will never know.What was side at the time was that AVB had effectively frozen out players (Adebayor) and demoralized others. Sherwood came in and was (refreshingly) nice to everybody which meant all the under-performing players suddenly started trying so they had a good run. However they did say that his tactics were non-existent and he just sent them out to play and let them sort it out.So to my mind he may well turn out to be a good manager but it's very much "not proven". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alessandro Posted October 25, 2015 Report Share Posted October 25, 2015 I think he needs to go championship , league 1 , learn his trade from there .Given the good short term job he did at Spurs, then at Villa keeping them up, I could see him getting a job at one of the lower prem teams when 'sacking season' starts. Maybe a Norwich, Watford or even Newcastle if they're struggling. He does seem to motivate players well short term. But I can't think of any other prem clubs who would take him now, so a drop to the champ (if his ego can stomach it) seems most likely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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