MarkRed! Posted January 12, 2016 Share Posted January 12, 2016 A poor game tonight but one we should have won. Preston were very poor and it just shows what can be achieved by being well organised. The team look jaded, leggy and had nothing to give. Personally, I felt it was a mistake putting out a strong 11 at WBA. This was a must win game for me and the first 11 should have been rested even if we ended up playing kids. We needed 4 points from this weeks 2 home games. I fear we will accrue 0. One crumb of comfort is that those around us are not picking up points. We cannot rely on others for much longer. Desperate situation but not SC's fault. It is silly to keep blaming the manager. We have a ridiculous list of managers and I am sure SC will not be sacked. The board are ultimately to blame as is the anonymous director of football. Spending 50 million + on a stadium before we get the team right on the pitch is laughable. I have said for some weeks we look short on players and needed 3 new faces tonight. We have not delivered any (A loan keeper is not what we need). The transfer policy of the club is a joke to allow the squad to be in this state - we need 6 players not 50k punts. We might just be lucky and bring in one at this rate...... We need to back SC and the team and try and pull them through. If we go down then there needs to be a thorough review at the end of the season.... That is the time to address the situation. COYR. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
And Its Smith Posted January 13, 2016 Share Posted January 13, 2016 If we cannot sign players this month to strengthen then we either keep the manager and go down or change the manager and possibly stay up. I am now in the latter camp. Cotterill has proven that he cannot keep this squad up. That doesn't mean that another manager would not be able too albeit we would need to appoint someone with a championship pedigree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Cap flinger Posted January 13, 2016 Share Posted January 13, 2016 Can't even deal with posts like this at the minute! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan Dicks Posted January 13, 2016 Share Posted January 13, 2016 Lansdown needs to show him the door first thing tomorrow morning Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lack of Action Man Posted January 13, 2016 Share Posted January 13, 2016 Tonight just showed how badly this club is run. To beat tonight's opposition to the title last season and then be defeated in the manner we were tonight is just unacceptable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest FreemansOnFire Posted January 13, 2016 Share Posted January 13, 2016 **** off Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cidered abroad Posted January 13, 2016 Share Posted January 13, 2016 Preston were not poor. They won away by 2-1. They beat what was in front of them and now sit way above us with 13 points more. They will still be in the Championship next year while we are back to the Third Division. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobBobSuperBob Posted January 13, 2016 Share Posted January 13, 2016 5 minutes ago, MarkRed! said: A poor game tonight but one we should have won. Preston were very poor and it just shows what can be achieved by being well organised. The team look jaded, leggy and had nothing to give. Personally, I felt it was a mistake putting out a strong 11 at WBA. This was a must win game for me and the first 11 should have been rested even if we ended up playing kids. We needed 4 points from this weeks 2 home games. I fear we will accrue 0. One crumb of comfort is that those around us are not picking up points. We cannot rely on others for much longer. Desperate situation but not SC's fault. It is silly to keep blaming the manager. We have a ridiculous list of managers and I am sure SC will not be sacked. The board are ultimately to blame as is the anonymous director of football. Spending 50 million + on a stadium before we get the team right on the pitch is laughable. I have said for some weeks we look short on players and needed 3 new faces tonight. We have not delivered any (A loan keeper is not what we need). The transfer policy of the club is a joke to allow the squad to be in this state - we need 6 players not 50k punts. We might just be lucky and bring in one at this rate...... We need to back SC and the team and try and pull them through. If we go down then there needs to be a thorough review at the end of the season.... That is the time to address the situation. COYR. Fair point Hes only the manager in charge of the football side you could only really blame him if he was responsible for assembling playing staff and ensuring we have a strong enough squad, coaching , tactics , use of substitutes and such like I agree people are being very harsh and demanding of him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bs3 Posted January 13, 2016 Share Posted January 13, 2016 The fans have backed him all season. Its down to Cotts to get us out of this mess. Can he do it with these players then my honest answer is no. We keep managers to 4 months to long. There is now only one out come and that is SC getting the sack , why prolong the agony. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChippenhamRed Posted January 13, 2016 Share Posted January 13, 2016 "If we go down then there needs to be a thorough review at the end of the season.... That is the time to address the situation". Personally I would rather address the threat of relegation now, rather than after it has occurred. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedLionLad Posted January 13, 2016 Share Posted January 13, 2016 11 minutes ago, RedDave said: If we cannot sign players this month to strengthen then we either keep the manager and go down or change the manager and possibly stay up. I am now in the latter camp. Cotterill has proven that he cannot keep this squad up. That doesn't mean that another manager would not be able too albeit we would need to appoint someone with a championship pedigree. Have we been relegated already then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkRed! Posted January 13, 2016 Author Share Posted January 13, 2016 City fans are forever hounding out managers, sometimes justified and sometimes not. We also seem to be hounding prospective signings on twitter which is even more pathetic. BOTTOM LINE is that the board are responsible and they are anonymous by their silence. We have struggled this season but what did people expect. SL talks about push for PL next season but where is the evidence that that is realistic. The team is not good enough and needed reinforcing in the summer and now - fact. They have not done it and have allowed the playing squad to be decimated. Result - sack the manager. No, sorry, don't buy this when the manager is not in control and is working to a club structure. Sacking SC won't make a jot of difference and will simply lead to more instability. He must be given the season. If we get relegated then a considered appraisal of the season is required. A poisonous atmosphere at the gate is the last thing we need, so if fans don't back SC and the team, don't go to games, because until they strengthen they will struggle to get points. The fans who abused SC, should be identified and banned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomo Posted January 13, 2016 Share Posted January 13, 2016 15 minutes ago, Alan Dicks said: Lansdown needs to show him the door first thing tomorrow morning Really ? I think that will just add to Lansdown's problems - and add more misery for another manager with regards to his wage policy. I would respect the club (as a whole) if they clearly stated that we can not compete at the top of Tier 2 and we will always be a Bottom Tier 2 and Top Tier 3 Football Club. I will then sleep better and not constantly dream of anything else. Thankfully I have the gift from Alan Dicks as a little boy watching 2/3 seasons in the top flight! Keep Cotts! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milo1111 Posted January 13, 2016 Share Posted January 13, 2016 8 minutes ago, cidered abroad said: Preston were not poor. They won away by 2-1. They beat what was in front of them and now sit way above us with 13 points more. They will still be in the Championship next year while we are back to the Third Division. Not poor but average at best. We were on a par with them but they benefitted from the fact that we always find a way to lose just as opposed to last season when we always found a way to win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest CA2UK Posted January 13, 2016 Share Posted January 13, 2016 Ayling,who was poor tonight,kept looking up for someone to give the ball to.No one was looking for it and he ended up hoofing it into nowhere.When we were on the attack,the midfield was far too deep and the constant reliance on Wilbraham to give the knock downs to non existent midfielders following up was a waste of time.There is nothing in midfield.Nothing.Freeman doesn't know what he is supposed to be doing and Pack is not good enough for the Championship.Thats where our problem lies and all the Zach Cloughs in the world aren't going to rectify it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCFC Jordan Posted January 13, 2016 Share Posted January 13, 2016 Last thing we need is more upheaval.at this stage. Just bring in some signings to improve the starting eleven. Not a lot, just 3 or 4. It cannot be that hard, surely? Everyone's frustrated tonight, SC shouldn't have reacted to those fans but he's feeling it like the rest of us. I'm just begging the board to bring players in, the club needs help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
And Its Smith Posted January 13, 2016 Share Posted January 13, 2016 1 minute ago, RedLionLad said: Have we been relegated already then? Obviously not. Stupid question. Are we in relegation zone? Yes. Will we stay up on current form? No. Will we get another 25 points from next 20 games!p? No. Should we wait until we are mathematically down before we change it, as you seem to suggest? **** no. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedLionLad Posted January 13, 2016 Share Posted January 13, 2016 Just now, RedDave said: Obviously not. Stupid question. Are we in relegation zone? Yes. Will we stay up on current form? No. Will we get another 25 points from next 20 games!p? No. Should we wait until we are mathematically down before we change it, as you seem to suggest? **** no. The stupid question was only made in response to your stupid statement. If you are saying we are already down, then I'll just have to believe you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobBobSuperBob Posted January 13, 2016 Share Posted January 13, 2016 1 minute ago, MarkRed! said: City fans are forever hounding out managers, sometimes justified and sometimes not. We also seem to be hounding prospective signings on twitter which is even more pathetic. BOTTOM LINE is that the board are responsible and they are anonymous by their silence. We have struggled this season but what did people expect. SL talks about push for PL next season but where is the evidence that that is realistic. The team is not good enough and needed reinforcing in the summer and now - fact. They have not done it and have allowed the playing squad to be decimated. Result - sack the manager. No, sorry, don't buy this when the manager is not in control and is working to a club structure. Sacking SC won't make a jot of difference and will simply lead to more instability. He must be given the season. If we get relegated then a considered appraisal of the season is required. A poisonous atmosphere at the gate is the last thing we need, so if fans don't back SC and the team, don't go to games, because until they strengthen they will struggle to get points. The fans who abused SC, should be identified and banned. And your evidence ....... please explain - you obviously have the full story This post even more bizarre than your opener IMO As for banning the fans who 'abused' SC my understanding from @Rob k who witnessed it was he want abused but was the one who used four letter expletives - so what are you going to do about those fans now..., And what would you do in respect of the managers behaviour ???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomo Posted January 13, 2016 Share Posted January 13, 2016 13 minutes ago, MarkRed! said: City fans are forever hounding out managers, sometimes justified and sometimes not. We also seem to be hounding prospective signings on twitter which is even more pathetic. BOTTOM LINE is that the board are responsible and they are anonymous by their silence. We have struggled this season but what did people expect. SL talks about push for PL next season but where is the evidence that that is realistic. The team is not good enough and needed reinforcing in the summer and now - fact. They have not done it and have allowed the playing squad to be decimated. Result - sack the manager. No, sorry, don't buy this when the manager is not in control and is working to a club structure. Sacking SC won't make a jot of difference and will simply lead to more instability. He must be given the season. If we get relegated then a considered appraisal of the season is required. A poisonous atmosphere at the gate is the last thing we need, so if fans don't back SC and the team, don't go to games, because until they strengthen they will struggle to get points. The fans who abused SC, should be identified and banned. Quality post m8 - totally agree! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RT's Vaseline Tub Posted January 13, 2016 Share Posted January 13, 2016 People say SC is to blame but whilst the players keep trying I feel that is not the case. A fag paper thin squad with any injuries preventing us from naming a full bench then the poor investment in the squad on the up last summer resulted us resting on our laurels thinking we could progress on the cheap. Foottball is unique in that it doesn't work like that and constant investing and evolving is always required. We may have fluked a good buy in Garita but we need to keep adding until there are options all over the playing squad. Whether SC or the Board was to blame for a Summer of looking back with a fine cigar & cognac we'll never know... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
And Its Smith Posted January 13, 2016 Share Posted January 13, 2016 7 minutes ago, RedLionLad said: The stupid question was only made in response to your stupid statement. If you are saying we are already down, then I'll just have to believe you. Yeah let's wait until we are down and then make a change. Great shout. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spudski Posted January 13, 2016 Share Posted January 13, 2016 3 minutes ago, MarkRed! said: City fans are forever hounding out managers, sometimes justified and sometimes not. We also seem to be hounding prospective signings on twitter which is even more pathetic. BOTTOM LINE is that the board are responsible and they are anonymous by their silence. We have struggled this season but what did people expect. SL talks about push for PL next season but where is the evidence that that is realistic. The team is not good enough and needed reinforcing in the summer and now - fact. They have not done it and have allowed the playing squad to be decimated. Result - sack the manager. No, sorry, don't buy this when the manager is not in control and is working to a club structure. Sacking SC won't make a jot of difference and will simply lead to more instability. He must be given the season. If we get relegated then a considered appraisal of the season is required. A poisonous atmosphere at the gate is the last thing we need, so if fans don't back SC and the team, don't go to games, because until they strengthen they will struggle to get points. The fans who abused SC, should be identified and banned. Whilst I agree the board should be held responsible for many problems at this Club...the problems on the pitch right now could be acted upon better. We are in a situation that is dire...however you have to deal with what you have in front of you, regardless of who's fault our 'situation' is. The style of play, substitutions in the past, resting players, trusting others, not having a plan B and refusing to change the system, and attracting players are all down to SC. He's just admitted that it's not just money and our position in the league, that is failing to attract players here...but he can't find any suitable to fit in to his style of play. Now who's fault is that?...not the boards in this matter. Even with the small squad, we have enough talent here to be at least where Preston sit. It's down to a system and tired players...how often are we conceding in the last minutes. We can blame whoever...but right now, I believe SC could save us from relegation if he changed the system. He refuses to...so in my mind flogging a dead horse doesn't work...so find someone who can work with these players using a more solid system....that is also less tiring to a small squad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedLionLad Posted January 13, 2016 Share Posted January 13, 2016 2 minutes ago, RedDave said: Yeah let's wait until we are down and then make a change. Great shout. ......and if we don't go down? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
And Its Smith Posted January 13, 2016 Share Posted January 13, 2016 Just now, RedLionLad said: ......and if we don't go down? Then we would have changed the manager Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CotswoldRed Posted January 13, 2016 Share Posted January 13, 2016 34 minutes ago, MarkRed! said: A poor game tonight but one we should have won. Preston were very poor and it just shows what can be achieved by being well organised. The team look jaded, leggy and had nothing to give. Personally, I felt it was a mistake putting out a strong 11 at WBA. This was a must win game for me and the first 11 should have been rested even if we ended up playing kids. We needed 4 points from this weeks 2 home games. I fear we will accrue 0. One crumb of comfort is that those around us are not picking up points. We cannot rely on others for much longer. Desperate situation but not SC's fault. It is silly to keep blaming the manager. We have a ridiculous list of managers and I am sure SC will not be sacked. The board are ultimately to blame as is the anonymous director of football. Spending 50 million + on a stadium before we get the team right on the pitch is laughable. I have said for some weeks we look short on players and needed 3 new faces tonight. We have not delivered any (A loan keeper is not what we need). The transfer policy of the club is a joke to allow the squad to be in this state - we need 6 players not 50k punts. We might just be lucky and bring in one at this rate...... We need to back SC and the team and try and pull them through. If we go down then there needs to be a thorough review at the end of the season.... That is the time to address the situation. COYR. Excellent post. Although I'd advise a thorough review before the end of the week and get rid of those who are to blame for this monumental cockup. In any other business there would be more than Pelling out of the door. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedLionLad Posted January 13, 2016 Share Posted January 13, 2016 ......and if Cotterill stays and we don't go down? Because although you've written the guy off, you do realise that is still a possibility. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkRed! Posted January 13, 2016 Author Share Posted January 13, 2016 7 minutes ago, BobBobSuperBob said: And your evidence ....... please explain - you obviously have the full story This post even more bizarre than your opener IMO As for banning the fans who 'abused' SC my understanding from @Rob k who witnessed it was he want abused but was the one who used four letter expletives - so what are you going to do about those fans now..., And what would you do in respect of the managers behaviour ???? The board are clearly responsible for the strategy and direction of the club. It is wrong to simply blame the manager time and time again. We have an appalling list of managerial casualties in the last decade. It is no way to run a football club. All fans want the best but how can SC (who was being lauded less than 6 months ago) now be sacked. The results are not good enough but the team is not good enough. Sacking manager is short termism which sums up how this club has been run... He has not lost the players and the team are doing their best but they are just not good enough... I genuinely don't believe any manager could get any more out of this team. I have not seen the incident, but if the manager is being abused then the fans are to blame... If SC reacts, well he is only human. I would tell them to do one as well. Ironic really as some posts ago I saw people calling for Nigel Pearson - didn't he tell a fan to F off and die.... Football is a passionate game. A hostility towards the manager is not going to help anyone or the team.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCFC Jordan Posted January 13, 2016 Share Posted January 13, 2016 It's our 6th relegation battle in 7 seasons. Sacking the manager doesn't tend to get us far. Particularly when we have such a ridiculously small squad. Upheaval halfway through the month of January isn't going to do us any good. Just need to pray the board bring in signings, or if SC does end up leaving, we'll have to get very, very lucky, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobBobSuperBob Posted January 13, 2016 Share Posted January 13, 2016 1 minute ago, MarkRed! said: The board are clearly responsible for the strategy and direction of the club. It is wrong to simply blame the manager time and time again. We have an appalling list of managerial casualties in the last decade. It is no way to run a football club. All fans want the best but how can SC (who was being lauded less than 6 months ago) now be sacked. The results are not good enough but the team is not good enough. Sacking manager is short termism which sums up how this club has been run... He has not lost the players and the team are doing their best but they are just not good enough... I genuinely don't believe any manager could get any more out of this team. I have not seen the incident, but if the manager is being abused then the fans are to blame... If SC reacts, well he is only human. I would tell them to do one as well. Ironic really as some posts ago I saw people calling for Nigel Pearson - didn't he tell a fan to F off and die.... Football is a passionate game. A hostility towards the manager is not going to help anyone or the team.... So you've not seen it but are calling for the fans to be banned but if SC reacts that's OK as he's only human...., What a bizarre thought process and double standards in anyone's book Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Cap flinger Posted January 13, 2016 Share Posted January 13, 2016 3 minutes ago, BCFC Jordan said: It's our 6th relegation battle in 7 seasons. Sacking the manager doesn't tend to get us far. Particularly when we have such a ridiculously small squad. Upheaval halfway through the month of January isn't going to do us any good. Just need to pray the board bring in signings, or if SC does end up leaving, we'll have to get very, very lucky, Forgot about SOD already have you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spudski Posted January 13, 2016 Share Posted January 13, 2016 3 minutes ago, MarkRed! said: The board are clearly responsible for the strategy and direction of the club. It is wrong to simply blame the manager time and time again. We have an appalling list of managerial casualties in the last decade. It is no way to run a football club. All fans want the best but how can SC (who was being lauded less than 6 months ago) now be sacked. The results are not good enough but the team is not good enough. Sacking manager is short termism which sums up how this club has been run... He has not lost the players and the team are doing their best but they are just not good enough... I genuinely don't believe any manager could get any more out of this team. I have not seen the incident, but if the manager is being abused then the fans are to blame... If SC reacts, well he is only human. I would tell them to do one as well. Ironic really as some posts ago I saw people calling for Nigel Pearson - didn't he tell a fan to F off and die.... Football is a passionate game. A hostility towards the manager is not going to help anyone or the team.... Agree Board are at fault for many things. Don't agree re players not being good enough. Sc's 'system' is not good enough. Bloke in crowd 'suggested' we pass better. Sc told him the F--- off. Then goes on Radio and say's we should have passed better...as did Wilbs. So who's at fault there? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCFC Jordan Posted January 13, 2016 Share Posted January 13, 2016 Just now, Cap flinger said: Forgot about SOD already have you? Who was replaced by the man that currently holds the position and brought us the success! Pressure is getting to him but he's been fed crumbs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Cap flinger Posted January 13, 2016 Share Posted January 13, 2016 Just now, BCFC Jordan said: Who was replaced by the man that currently holds the position and brought us the success! Pressure is getting to him but he's been fed crumbs. But we need to deal with the here and now not the past! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCFC Jordan Posted January 13, 2016 Share Posted January 13, 2016 1 minute ago, Cap flinger said: But we need to deal with the here and now not the past! True, it's all a mess. It all goes back to the summer debacle in the end. I'm just not sure if sacking the manager is worthwhile? Really not sure. What a depressing season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkRed! Posted January 13, 2016 Author Share Posted January 13, 2016 1 minute ago, BobBobSuperBob said: So you've not seen it but are calling for the fans to be banned but if SC reacts that's OK as he's only human...., What a bizarre thought process and double standards in anyone's book The manager is not going to swear at fans for nothing and clearly something was said to him and he was abused. If he reacts, which appears to have been the case, what is the problem. Yes, I would ban the fans. Clearly they are not angels and can dish out the verbals. Don't like taking it back though by the sounds of it.... Presumably, they weren't singing SC's name 6 months ago either, going to Wembley and enjoying the success he brought ...... such a fickle supporter base and it is best to think about the state of the club before SC arrived..... we all have very short memories indeed. I understand the frustration, really do. I just think we should back SC and give him to the end of the season... that's all. Just an opinion. It is also my opinion that he won't be sacked by SL..... he fits into the club structure and they like him. Unless he loses the team - which aint gonna happen from what I have seen.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkRed! Posted January 13, 2016 Author Share Posted January 13, 2016 7 minutes ago, Cap flinger said: Forgot about SOD already have you? Spot on and we are not even adrift at the bottom (yet). There is still time to turn it around but that needs to happen now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoldenBall Posted January 13, 2016 Share Posted January 13, 2016 4 wins in 28 is sackable in anyone's book, this guy is not Bristol City royalty. He's said on many occasions he's squeezed out all he can from these players. Fine, then bring someone else in. I'm seeing the same situation with Mciness developing, he gets about 3 months longer than he should of, we're about 8 points adrift, a new manager comes in but it's already too late. Also another thing, the SC in camp are suggesting he is not to blame for the boards inept transfer dealings, on the football league tonight Clinton Morrison "jokingly" said players don't want to play under Cotterill.. He'll have mates in football, known contacts of agents, do players really want to play under SC? I highly doubt it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smokey Posted January 13, 2016 Share Posted January 13, 2016 Its hard to back him now. He's not helping himself or the team out, our midfield needs help. There is only so much they can do, especially when tired. They can't hold on to the ball waiting for an option to pass to because they get crowded out and lose the ball. If the simple ball to the wing back isn't on we end up putting ourself under pressure Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobBobSuperBob Posted January 13, 2016 Share Posted January 13, 2016 11 minutes ago, MarkRed! said: The manager is not going to swear at fans for nothing and clearly something was said to him and he was abused. If he reacts, which appears to have been the case, what is the problem. Yes, I would ban the fans. Clearly they are not angels and can dish out the verbals. Don't like taking it back though by the sounds of it.... Presumably, they weren't singing SC's name 6 months ago either, going to Wembley and enjoying the success he brought ...... such a fickle supporter base and it is best to think about the state of the club before SC arrived..... we all have very short memories indeed. I understand the frustration, really do. I just think we should back SC and give him to the end of the season... that's all. Just an opinion. It is also my opinion that he won't be sacked by SL..... he fits into the club structure and they like him. Unless he loses the team - which aint gonna happen from what I have seen.... Jeeeez lets hope you never get selected for a jury ! Add a bit of guesswork, presumption and 'must of' and you almost create a defence to suit and you'd ban the fans ???? Doesnt fit very well with the evidence !!! very strange thought process IMO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cityexile Posted January 13, 2016 Share Posted January 13, 2016 Cotts view of the world - he was let down over the summer, he knows the squad is to thin, he is getting the very best out of them, they are all giving their best. There is some truth in all of that. I suspect most of us will never know exactly what happened over the summer. Maybe if we had pulled the two signings off that were mentioned we would have picked up a few more points and be ok. The gut feel however is that the players Sc has identified are a very short list entitled 'forwards'. It is like he has got to 'big school' and suddenly started chatting up all the sixth formers thinking he is in with a shout! We may have missed our big targets, but where were our small targets? Preston have brought in three new players this window. They rested some in the cup. We could not as Cotts does not trust any of them, or if players are brought in, he will not play them as they are not 'his' kind of player. Our first team looks exhausted, with confidence draining by the day. Burns gets on as a wing back. He may not have some of the players he wants, and maybe some of that is not down to him. He could have plenty of other players however. Some we have got in then seem very keen to get away again. I could weep tears of frustration, as all we need to do is bring in right now some competent players, playing a system they understand, and do a bit better than MK! I do not buy the wages argument. I do not buy we cannot compete. It increasingly looks like Cotts frankly is so convinced he is right he can see no other way. Give this committed group of players a chsnce. Build a squad, play a system that means we increase our chances of recruiting to it, and we may still have a chance. If he cannot do that, the only variable that can be changed is him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BS4 on Tour... Posted January 13, 2016 Share Posted January 13, 2016 4 hours ago, MarkRed! said: Spending 50 million + on a stadium before we get the team right on the pitch is laughable. Our stadium rebuild didn't start this season. We certainly got the team right on the pitch last season during the rebuild. SL just can't do anything right in some people's eyes... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BS4 on Tour... Posted January 13, 2016 Share Posted January 13, 2016 3 hours ago, MarkRed! said: City fans are forever hounding out managers, sometimes justified and sometimes not. We also seem to be hounding prospective signings on twitter which is even more pathetic. BOTTOM LINE is that the board are responsible and they are anonymous by their silence. We have struggled this season but what did people expect. SL talks about push for PL next season but where is the evidence that that is realistic. The team is not good enough and needed reinforcing in the summer and now - fact. They have not done it and have allowed the playing squad to be decimated. Result - sack the manager. No, sorry, don't buy this when the manager is not in control and is working to a club structure. Sacking SC won't make a jot of difference and will simply lead to more instability. He must be given the season. If we get relegated then a considered appraisal of the season is required. A poisonous atmosphere at the gate is the last thing we need, so if fans don't back SC and the team, don't go to games, because until they strengthen they will struggle to get points. The fans who abused SC, should be identified and banned. Apparently SC wasn't abused, an eye witness has stated on here that he was not sworn at or abused, his brand of football was questioned out of frustration.That's worth a ban to you? And I don't agree we as fans are '...forever hounding out managers...' I think Bristol City fans have shown remarkable restraint, patience and support for the vast majority of the four decades I've supported them. We don't orchestrate sustained campaigns to get rid of our managers like fans such as the Geordies do. They even launched a website to gain support for the sacking of Alan Pardew, they gave out leaflets at games and consistently displayed anti Pardew banners etc. Bet they wish he was still with them now! Have you ever witnessed this sort of sustained behaviour at The Gate? No you haven't... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkRed! Posted January 13, 2016 Author Share Posted January 13, 2016 18 hours ago, BobBobSuperBob said: Jeeeez lets hope you never get selected for a jury ! Add a bit of guesswork, presumption and 'must of' and you almost create a defence to suit and you'd ban the fans ???? Doesnt fit very well with the evidence !!! very strange thought process IMO Thanks BobBobSuperBob! It is a difficult situation. I dont think there is any need for verbal abuse towards a double winning manager howsoever that arises.... we can all articulate our views far better and it just creates a very hostile atmosphere. I hear players have also made gestures to the fans. I dont really understand that as it was only last night that I felt fans were turning on the team in some quarters.... All is not well.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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