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7 minutes ago, southvillekiddy said:

Okay mate. When I say" lose us" I mean that for the foreseeable future, or unless a change at the top is made, I will cease to entertain ideas of BCFC ever being in the Premiership. I will not support another team but will have to accept that we will remain a League 1 team indefinitely. Your point about Pearson being too expensive is the knub of the problem. He isn't too expensive if you are serious about Premiership football. 

I agree with you therefore about Pemberton. There is absolutely no point in appointing anyone else unless they are in Pearson's class. Under SL we've had Wilson (did it with Barnsley but couldn't do it with us, wonder why), Tinnion, Johnson, Millen, Coppell (have you thought of about why someone so well qualified could hardly wait to get out of City) McInnes, O'Driscoll, Cotterill. 2 out of 8 qualified in Premiership terms. Not brilliant appointing record is it?

But how expensive are we talking? We don't know his demands. I suspect that Pearson would be open to taking the job on, but I'm not going to delude myself to think he'd be so keen as to jump at whatever terms- transfer budget, wage bill and salary- on offer. As much as I'd like to see Pearson in charge, I don't want to see the steps forward in reducing debt and making the club viable as a business sacrificed at the alter of a big name

As for former managers, it's not just us that Wilson failed to do 'it' with after Barnsley and while I agree there is some fishiness in Coppells arrival and rapid departure, he's not exactly been sticking his hand up for new jobs since, which makes me think a big part of the issue was probably the man himself

I'm not defending the board per se; I would maintain that Cotterill had to go because results weren't good enough and he was quite clearly playing silly buggers with the signings he had available, but the board and the associated suits have obviously not lived up to their part of the bargain. However, what I won't do is damn them all to hell because of half-baked ideas of what they will and won't do and melodramatic conspiracy theories

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1 hour ago, Red-Robbo said:

We don't really have a list at all, Dave.

Unless the bookies and/or Stockhausen have hacked the club's phones we will not know who has applied, whose been rejected, who if any may have already been approached extraneous to those on the list and who if any may be mulling the move.

Like the club appointing a manager, my business recruits from a small field of specialists and there is competition for the best people.  That's why when I am taking on new key staff, I keep any negotiations under my hat until the ink has dried on the contract. 

I knew it.....you're a Hit-man :ph34r:

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30 minutes ago, chipdawg said:

 what I won't do is damn them all to hell because of half-baked ideas of what they will and won't do and melodramatic conspiracy theories

Your words mate. Just compare what they say they want to do with what they actually achieve.

I'm not saying it's easy. However it's not that long ago that Harry Redknapp said to a football club within the time that SL has been at City "Give me 10 million quid and i'll get you in the Premiership" it was a lot of money at the time but not a ridiculous amount. What are we frightened about?

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8 minutes ago, Jesus said:

hahaha, its a good job we don't need to hurry the process along as we're in the middle of a January window where it is vital to sign the right players for our survival. Oh, wait....... 

MIDDLE !

We're a long was past the middle - less than a week to go now !

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24 minutes ago, phantom said:

Or maybe to do with the fact Lansdown has just come back from his holiday in Namibia and he gets the final choice?

Yes, because billionaire businessman Steve Lansdown would delay an important matter involving one of his businesses because he wasn't due back from holiday for a few days. The man has a private jet

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1 hour ago, Nogbad the Bad said:

We already had our young, progressive manager, 'young' Steve Clarke is older than Cotterill.

So what that really tells us is that apart from being factually incorrect on a regular basis and often poorly written, The Post actually really knows the square root of **** all, so just speculates or makes it up.

Tisdale is favourite, no Stuart Pearce is, no, it will be Pemberton until the end of the season, now it is Warnock, they really have not got a clue, so anyone quoting them on here is basically like saying those "transfer agent in the know" sites on Twitter can predict our new signings..

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30 minutes ago, southvillekiddy said:

Your words mate. Just compare what they say they want to do with what they actually achieve.

I'm not saying it's easy. However it's not that long ago that Harry Redknapp said to a football club within the time that SL has been at City "Give me 10 million quid and i'll get you in the Premiership" it was a lot of money at the time but not a ridiculous amount. What are we frightened about?

That's precisely what many are not doing. They're comparing what they they've said they want to do with the conspiracy theories about what they think is happening behind the scenes and what they believe might happen in the end. If the appointment is shit, questions should be asked, definitely 

There are no gaurentees in football and £10 million doesn't buy that much these days. Look how much Derby spent and they got beat 4-1 last night and are 5th

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It is getting rather tedious hearing nothing but I have faith the board by taking its time will end up with the right manager. We are definitely spoilt for choice as many good names are out of work so I would expect a similar calibre of candidate as when we got Steve Coppell

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People really think that if we had a few people highlighted earlier as the best options that SL couldn't have been contacted abroad and done initial skype interviews etc until he was back? For me the reason its taking as long as it has it that the club appreciates the need to make sure the appointment is the right one and not to rush it, regardless of the fact we're in January.

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3 minutes ago, shelts said:

It is getting rather tedious hearing nothing but I have faith the board by taking its time will end up with the right manager. We are definitely spoilt for choice as many good names are out of work so I would expect a similar calibre of candidate as when we got Steve Coppell

We should n't take no reply for an answer .

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1 hour ago, ontariored said:
3 minutes ago, chipdawg said:

Yes, because billionaire businessman Steve Lansdown would delay an important matter involving one of his businesses because he wasn't due back from holiday for a few days. The man has a private jet

 

Perhaps the process goes like this :

1. Applications received

2. Applications considered by COO ( who has relevant football experience)

3. COO forms shortlist and refers to owner.

4. Shortlist candidates invited for interview with COO and owner - interview dates coincident with SLs return from holiday.

No delays.

 

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1 hour ago, Nogbad the Bad said:

Cumulative effect.

We've got a fairly mature fanbase and many thousands have supported City through thick and thin through mostly unrewarding decades.

They will have seen the triumphs of last season as a belated reward for that loyalty, and the prospect of a young City team playing attacking football in the Championship under a progressive manager will have invigorated their enthusiasm for the club.

To go backwards again this season in such spectacular and humiliating fashion will be one anti climax too far for many, and I'd expect non renewals to be in the many thousands if we stick with Pembo ( or 'Limbo' more like) and go down.

Even if we stay up I've no doubt the depressing events of this season will be see many fans disillusioned and not renewing, and enthusiasm for Championship football will quickly wane with others if the course the club is taking means we're destined to be perpetual strugglers. 

And ironically those lean years were caused by the club 'going for broke' and spending lots of money in players we can't afford, which many seem to be advocating again

Don't get me wrong, this season has been a massive disappointment for which a number of individuals should take the blame, but the there's more drama on here- much of it imagined- than a whole series of Emmerdale

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44 minutes ago, southvillekiddy said:

Your words mate. Just compare what they say they want to do with what they actually achieve.

I'm not saying it's easy. However it's not that long ago that Harry Redknapp said to a football club within the time that SL has been at City "Give me 10 million quid and i'll get you in the Premiership" it was a lot of money at the time but not a ridiculous amount. What are we frightened about?

Just to clarify, are you saying we should be more like Portsmouth?  I've got a few reasons why I'd rather we weren't.  

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24 minutes ago, chipdawg said:

Yes, because billionaire businessman Steve Lansdown would delay an important matter involving one of his businesses because he wasn't due back from holiday for a few days. The man has a private jet

Sorry to disillusion you chip but it was Mr Ashton that has said about SL having a private jet, in reality he has a Cessna 152 he keeps in a hanger at Lulsgate. These marketing people eh !!!

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14 minutes ago, downendcity said:

Perhaps the process goes like this :

1. Applications received

2. Applications considered by COO ( who has relevant football experience)

3. COO forms shortlist and refers to owner.

4. Shortlist candidates invited for interview with COO and owner - interview dates coincident with SLs return from holiday.

No delays.

 

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Or....

1. Realise results aren't going our way.

2. Sound out replacement.

3. Agree deal with new manager, all lined up..........

4. Sack Manager

5. Appoint said new man nicely 2 weeks to go before the transfer deadline

Even less delays.

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1 hour ago, Jesus said:

hahaha, its a good job we don't need to hurry the process along as we're in the middle of a January window where it is vital to sign the right players for our survival. Oh, wait....... 

We need a miracle. A couple of them

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6 minutes ago, oldstandrobin said:

Sorry to disillusion you chip but it was Mr Ashton that has said about SL having a private jet, in reality he has a Cessna 152 he keeps in a hanger at Lulsgate. These marketing people eh !!!

Still, fill it full of 4-star and as long as you go via Biaritz, Gibraltar, Marakesh, Luanda, Brazaville and a remote airstrip in the Cameroonian jungle, you could be back on Bristol from Namibia in under 4 days I reckon

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