allyolly Posted January 29, 2016 Report Share Posted January 29, 2016 For me one week outstanding and the next a liability. My eyes are still watering from his challenge at Elland Rd on Saturday when he was lucky to stay on the pitch. Change of formation, Golbourne signing, Wiliiams and Bryan, any more game time for Baker? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shtanley Posted January 29, 2016 Report Share Posted January 29, 2016 Yeah at centre back with Flint until Pearce can be evaluated. No way in hell is Baker a full back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Never to the dark side Posted January 29, 2016 Report Share Posted January 29, 2016 Saturday 5th December against Blackburn getting sent off after two yellow cards,I'll keep my thoughts in my head Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Globe Trotter Posted January 29, 2016 Report Share Posted January 29, 2016 Player of the season after Korey this year (not much competition I admit!). Can be rash at times but great in the air, calm on the ball, committed and always gives 100%. Hope we sign him in the summer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BRISTOL86 Posted January 29, 2016 Report Share Posted January 29, 2016 Villa player with a hot head playing Birmingham on Saturday. What could go wrong? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deadredfred Posted January 29, 2016 Report Share Posted January 29, 2016 1 hour ago, tommy32 said: Player of the season after Korey this year (not much competition I admit!). Can be rash at times but great in the air, calm on the ball, committed and always gives 100%. Hope we sign him in the summer. He certainly looks assured at the back and that must have a calming influence on the whole team. Very solid most of the time. As for calm on the ball - Not sure I've seen him kick it all that many times! He's no nonsense, wins it and clears danger with his head 90% of the time, which is exactly what we need right now. A few times vs Boro and WBA he had an age to bring it down and start something from the back, but headed it up and away instead. i wonder whether that's room for improvement or that's his tactical instruction? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Globe Trotter Posted January 29, 2016 Report Share Posted January 29, 2016 45 minutes ago, deadredfred said: He certainly looks assured at the back and that must have a calming influence on the whole team. Very solid most of the time. As for calm on the ball - Not sure I've seen him kick it all that many times! He's no nonsense, wins it and clears danger with his head 90% of the time, which is exactly what we need right now. A few times vs Boro and WBA he had an age to bring it down and start something from the back, but headed it up and away instead. i wonder whether that's room for improvement or that's his tactical instruction? That's true; in terms of calm on the ball I mean when he has the ball at his feet he never looks rushed or likely to panic and often plays a simple ball to a wing back or into midfield rather than trying anything too ambitious. I think he knows his game and doesn't try to over complicate things; more of a traditional centre back! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCFC Grim Posted January 29, 2016 Report Share Posted January 29, 2016 Best defender at the club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SODS_LAW Posted January 29, 2016 Report Share Posted January 29, 2016 Proper defender Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirtySanchez Posted January 29, 2016 Report Share Posted January 29, 2016 3 hours ago, Never to the dark side said: Saturday 5th December against Blackburn getting sent off after two yellow cards,I'll keep my thoughts in my head He should have been sent off by half time! He does look composed though and seems to have plenty of time on the ball, his injuries worry me the most. But I think I would sign him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brad blit Posted January 29, 2016 Report Share Posted January 29, 2016 My new man crush (sorry Aden) A proper defender as others have said, iv lost count the amount of times he's made a crunching tackle and reminded me of the days when 'tackling' was an art form, whereas now most can be deemed a foul. Yes he can be rash at times but a 100% committed Baker tackle/foul is 10x better than the powder puff attempted tackles I see Williams do most games, has more quality on the ball than Flint and probably more of a presence too. Would love it if we could sign him as he would be brilliant alongside a more agile ball playing defender Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WsM-Red Posted January 29, 2016 Report Share Posted January 29, 2016 I really can't understand how you can say will there be anymore game time for Baker? He is the best defender at the club, countless times he has put his body on the line, a great battler, strong in the air, loves a big challenge, and hardly makes any mistakes. We'd be lucky to keep him in the summer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YorksRed Posted January 29, 2016 Report Share Posted January 29, 2016 The tackle that got him booked at Leeds was actually a fantastic challenge and he won the ball - plenty of Leeds fans I know thought that too, but sadly it's touch and go as to whether you get a booking for dynamic, fully committed tackling nowadays. That turned the tide somewhat for him in that game, red did look inevitable and it was right to sub him at half time. I wouldn't want him to curb the commitment he shows. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bowie Posted January 29, 2016 Report Share Posted January 29, 2016 Solid, Old Fashioned Crunching centre half.... just what you need in a relegation battle...plus how many decent quality left sided centre half are there? Wages could be an issue but I'd like to keep him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rudolf Hucker Posted January 29, 2016 Report Share Posted January 29, 2016 A decent defender in the Championship albeit with a hot head which he will do well to temper because opposing teams will exploit that weakness. What holds back his Prem potential, IMO is his distribution. In the Prem these days it's all about possession and his tendency to "just get rid of the ball" once he's won it will count against him at a higher level. It may be that he's merely playing to orders but I do feel it's his natural way of playing. However he has far more plusses than negatives where we are concerned, right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BS30 Reds Posted January 29, 2016 Report Share Posted January 29, 2016 Hopefully he is one of the 3 or 4 we sign permanently Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adamc6203 Posted January 29, 2016 Report Share Posted January 29, 2016 Very very good player, calm on the ball and deserves to be playing next to Flint, only problem is he can't help making silly tackles in non-dangerous situations and if he gets booked before half time you wouldn't trust him to stay on the pitch for 90 minutes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrahamC Posted January 29, 2016 Report Share Posted January 29, 2016 3 hours ago, Thatch35 said: Never a premiership player, he's just a head, hoof and clear player. So you've never looked at his positional sense then, which often sees him able to intercept danger, cover two attackers at the same time when others are badly out of position? The number of times he heads clear and still marks two attackers isn't a coincidence. He can be reckless at times but he is certainly the type of quality we need to stay up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cider-manc Posted January 29, 2016 Report Share Posted January 29, 2016 2 hours ago, YorksRed said: The tackle that got him booked at Leeds was actually a fantastic challenge and he won the ball - plenty of Leeds fans I know thought that too, but sadly it's touch and go as to whether you get a booking for dynamic, fully committed tackling nowadays. That turned the tide somewhat for him in that game, red did look inevitable and it was right to sub him at half time. I wouldn't want him to curb the commitment he shows. I might be wrong but wasn't the booking for the challenge on the half way line? The ref played advantage before then giving a foul for what I agree looked a fantastic tackle. The ref seemed to gesture back to the half way line when booking him. Either way it was a matter of time as the ref had already given him a talking to prior to that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shepton red Posted January 29, 2016 Report Share Posted January 29, 2016 2 hours ago, brad blit said: My new man crush (sorry Aden) A proper defender as others have said, iv lost count the amount of times he's made a crunching tackle and reminded me of the days when 'tackling' was an art form, whereas now most can be deemed a foul. Yes he can be rash at times but a 100% committed Baker tackle/foul is 10x better than the powder puff attempted tackles I see Williams do most games, has more quality on the ball than Flint and probably more of a presence too. Would love it if we could sign him as he would be brilliant alongside a more agile ball playing defender Brad, you have a new man crush every week!!!' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BRISTOL86 Posted January 29, 2016 Report Share Posted January 29, 2016 Sadly I don't think we have any chance of keeping him on a permanent basis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roe Posted January 29, 2016 Report Share Posted January 29, 2016 Good defender and attitude but it'd be nice if he didn't get sent off/forced to be taken off every half dozen games! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YorksRed Posted January 29, 2016 Report Share Posted January 29, 2016 10 minutes ago, cider-manc said: I might be wrong but wasn't the booking for the challenge on the half way line? The ref played advantage before then giving a foul for what I agree looked a fantastic tackle. The ref seemed to gesture back to the half way line when booking him. Either way it was a matter of time as the ref had already given him a talking to prior to that. Ah, you're probably right about which of many tackles resulted in the caution and as you said it was only a matter of time! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milo1111 Posted January 29, 2016 Report Share Posted January 29, 2016 Great ability, very talented defender. BUT have my doubts as to whether or not he is that focused on keeping us in the championship down to the fact that some of his challenges are downright irresponsible and also the fact he goes off injured too much (although maybe the last part is harsh). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WsM-Red Posted January 29, 2016 Report Share Posted January 29, 2016 10 minutes ago, milo1111 said: Great ability, very talented defender. BUT have my doubts as to whether or not he is that focused on keeping us in the championship down to the fact that some of his challenges are downright irresponsible and also the fact he goes off injured too much (although maybe the last part is harsh). I hope your not referring to the Borough game on this one! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milo1111 Posted January 29, 2016 Report Share Posted January 29, 2016 1 minute ago, WsM-Red said: I hope your not referring to the Borough game on this one! general comment, reading, Cardiff.. I might be being harsh but I do wonder when players go off often . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devereux Posted January 29, 2016 Report Share Posted January 29, 2016 Yes he needs to watch his discipline but at least its shows a bit of passion and aggression. He is a quality defender imo and it is no coincidence that we have tightened up significantly as he has settled into the side. I would welcome him coming on board permanently if that was to happen at seasons end. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbored Posted January 29, 2016 Report Share Posted January 29, 2016 4 hours ago, Thatch35 said: Never a premiership player, he's just a head, hoof and clear player. Just like Flint. That's two in the same team Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WsM-Red Posted January 29, 2016 Report Share Posted January 29, 2016 8 minutes ago, milo1111 said: general comment, reading, Cardiff.. I might be being harsh but I do wonder when players go off often . I only mentioned the Borough game because he went off after eating Flints boot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stephenkibby. Posted January 29, 2016 Report Share Posted January 29, 2016 4 hours ago, Thatch35 said: Never a premiership player, he's just a head, hoof and clear player. Has already played over 60 times foe Villa. Not bad for a non premiership player. And that was in the three seasons prior to this!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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