Dastardly and Muttley Posted April 4, 2016 Report Share Posted April 4, 2016 Just saw Paul Heffernan's name crop up on a thread, along with recent mentions of Steve Brooker and Danny Rose. Heffernan was made to play mostly second fiddle or on the wing, whilst being a really good striker himself. Steve Brooker's injuries were allegedly mismanaged, leading to recurring knee problems. Danny Rose was played as a left winger if I remember correctly. So, who has been the most mismanaged player at City? Someone who's not been given a chance here or misused, before going on to have success elsewhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
!james Posted April 4, 2016 Report Share Posted April 4, 2016 McInnes playing Chris Wood left wing? McInnes playing Brett Pitman left wing? McInnes playing Jon Stead left wing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Esmond Million's Bung Posted April 4, 2016 Report Share Posted April 4, 2016 4 minutes ago, Dastardly and Muttley said: Just saw Paul Heffernan's name crop up on a thread, along with recent mentions of Steve Brooker and Danny Rose. Heffernan was made to play mostly second fiddle or on the wing, whilst being a really good striker himself. Steve Brooker's injuries were allegedly mismanaged, leading to recurring knee problems. Danny Rose was played as a left winger if I remember correctly. So, who has been the most mismanaged player at City? Someone who's not been given a chance here or misused, before going on to have success elsewhere. Heffernone was simply not good enough IMO, as for Brooker I see Mr Wilshire is in the news again today some people don't behave like athletes IMO, Danny Rose came with an attitude but fair play to him since his return. For me it has to be Lee Trundle, the free scoring striker that GJ tried to turn into an all round footballer a man close to 3O years of age. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
One BCFC Posted April 4, 2016 Report Share Posted April 4, 2016 The disgrace that Yannick Bolasie spent most his City career on the bench. Class player and was hardly used. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrahamC Posted April 4, 2016 Report Share Posted April 4, 2016 Heffernan was simply unlucky in that his sole season with us coincided with the emergence of Lita plus Brooker (a completely different player) signing, meaning we had a 50 goal partnership up front. I don't think he was mismanaged therefore. For his subsequent achievements you'd have to place Yannick Bolasie pretty high up that list.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gasbuster Posted April 4, 2016 Report Share Posted April 4, 2016 Evander Sno. GJ constantly played him out wide All because he wanted to accommodate another player; who's name escapes me........ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCFC_Dan Posted April 4, 2016 Report Share Posted April 4, 2016 Heffernan wasn't exactly mismanaged while he was at City because, as mentioned, the form of Lita and Brooker made them undroppable. However, anyone with an ounce of sense could have seen that Lita was going to leave in the summer of 2005 so allowing Heffernan to leave as well has always struck me as daft. I don't know the full story there though. There's a case for saying that half the team was mismanaged during the Wilson era as they were allowed to get away with far too much off the pitch. Better managers than Wilson and Tinnion might have helped Christian Roberts more when he was struggling with his drinking. The player's got to want to change as well though and it's a football club not a clinic, so it can be argued both ways. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vincent Vega Posted April 4, 2016 Report Share Posted April 4, 2016 Lee Trundle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
handsofclay Posted April 4, 2016 Report Share Posted April 4, 2016 Ray Cashley, brilliant full back with a great shot on him but ended up being played out of position in goal and taking shots from his own pen area which restricted his goals scored to just the one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gasbuster Posted April 4, 2016 Report Share Posted April 4, 2016 Jacki; Would any manager have been able to manage him properly ? (without him going off in a strop, getting pissed up etc..) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Bill Posted April 4, 2016 Report Share Posted April 4, 2016 JET Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major Isewater Posted April 4, 2016 Report Share Posted April 4, 2016 A veteran player called Wilbraham was run into the ground by a certain manager. A good City servant Liam Fontaine , first name on the team list for McInnes , first name in the scapegoat list for many ' supporters ' . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WolfOfWestStreet Posted April 4, 2016 Report Share Posted April 4, 2016 3 minutes ago, Major Isewater said: A veteran player called Wilbraham was run into the ground by a certain manager. A good City servant Liam Fontaine , first name on the team list for McInnes , first name in the scapegoat list for many ' supporters ' . How was Fontaine miss managed? The 'supporters' (why the **** that is in commers?) Were rightly critical after he'd fallen over for the umpteenth time and cost the team yet another goal. Also he wasn't a servant, he was a highly paid professional who consistently failed to do his job properly and consequently is playing in Scotland Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dastardly and Muttley Posted April 4, 2016 Author Report Share Posted April 4, 2016 24 minutes ago, BCFC_Dan said: Heffernan wasn't exactly mismanaged while he was at City because, as mentioned, the form of Lita and Brooker made them undroppable. However, anyone with an ounce of sense could have seen that Lita was going to leave in the summer of 2005 so allowing Heffernan to leave as well has always struck me as daft. I don't know the full story there though. I suppose that's what I mean by mentioning Heff. The fact he was allowed to leave was awful, when it was clear he would have been our main man the following season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Selred Posted April 4, 2016 Report Share Posted April 4, 2016 9 minutes ago, WolfOfWestStreet said: How was Fontaine miss managed? The 'supporters' (why the **** that is in commers?) Were rightly critical after he'd fallen over for the umpteenth time and cost the team yet another goal. Also he wasn't a servant, he was a highly paid professional who consistently failed to do his job properly and consequently is playing in Scotland Agree with he first part, disagree with the second. He was a good servant to the club and had many many good games for us. Peoples views are clouded by his final few months, which were awful to be honest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robin1988 Posted April 4, 2016 Report Share Posted April 4, 2016 41 minutes ago, BA14 RED said: The disgrace that Yannick Bolasie spent most his City career on the bench. Class player and was hardly used. When he played he was very raw. He had potential and sometimes looked dangerous but you've completely made up that he was anywhere near class at the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sixtyseconds Posted April 4, 2016 Report Share Posted April 4, 2016 Junior Bent. Target Man. Russell {0-0} Osman. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted April 4, 2016 Report Share Posted April 4, 2016 Ivan Sproule - he got thumped. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonBristolian Posted April 4, 2016 Report Share Posted April 4, 2016 I'm pretty sure Danny Rose was widely thought of as a left-winger when he was with us. I don't know for sure but I think that's where he played on most of his loans and possibly in the Spurs reserves too. I also don't actually think we mismanaged him - at the time his attitude didn't seem great and he seemed to work a lot harder in the 45 minutes he was on the same side of the pitch as the managers' bench. He deserves a lot of credit for maturing, knuckling down and making the most of his talent but I don't agree he was mismanaged. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cityfan Posted April 4, 2016 Report Share Posted April 4, 2016 Agreed, Lee Trundle. We should have built the team around him and given him free reign. Also, played him up front and centre or just behind, not out on the wing. Doesn't Ranieri have a policy where his three strikers come back as far as the halfway line and stop there, thus maintaining pressure on the opposition!!!! Trundle should have been a superstar at City and instead, sadly, he was totally wasted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red-Robbo Posted April 4, 2016 Report Share Posted April 4, 2016 15 minutes ago, Selred said: Agree with he first part, disagree with the second. He was a good servant to the club and had many many good games for us. Peoples views are clouded by his final few months, which were awful to be honest. Make that final two years and I agree with you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCFC_Dan Posted April 4, 2016 Report Share Posted April 4, 2016 3 minutes ago, cityfan said: Agreed, Lee Trundle. We should have built the team around him and given him free reign. Also, played him up front and centre or just behind, not out on the wing. Doesn't Ranieri have a policy where his three strikers come back as far as the halfway line and stop there, thus maintaining pressure on the opposition!!!! Trundle should have been a superstar at City and instead, sadly, he was totally wasted. We reached the playoff final using Trundle as we did. He hardly went on to show us where we went wrong afterwards either. He was a league one striker when we signed him and he never achieved anything better than he did with us in 2007/08. The closest he came was 21 appearances as Swansea finished 7th in the Championship in 2009/10. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cidered abroad Posted April 4, 2016 Report Share Posted April 4, 2016 24 minutes ago, Selred said: Agree with he first part, disagree with the second. He was a good servant to the club and had many many good games for us. Peoples views are clouded by his final few months, which were awful to be honest. Professional footballers are not SERVANTS. They are very well paid athletes under contract to play football and get paid whether they do that or not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WolfOfWestStreet Posted April 4, 2016 Report Share Posted April 4, 2016 30 minutes ago, Selred said: Agree with he first part, disagree with the second. He was a good servant to the club and had many many good games for us. Peoples views are clouded by his final few months, which were awful to be honest. Fair point. Just not a fan of the servant Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhistleHappy Posted April 4, 2016 Report Share Posted April 4, 2016 .....actually we've never had a miss-managed player at the City...... ....all our managers have been blokes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deadredfred Posted April 4, 2016 Report Share Posted April 4, 2016 Adriano Basso. He was a striker in Brazil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Dawe Posted April 4, 2016 Report Share Posted April 4, 2016 No mention for Pulis yet? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigAl&Toby Posted April 4, 2016 Report Share Posted April 4, 2016 43 minutes ago, WolfOfWestStreet said: How was Fontaine miss managed? The 'supporters' (why the **** that is in commers?) Were rightly critical after he'd fallen over for the umpteenth time and cost the team yet another goal. Also he wasn't a servant, he was a highly paid professional who consistently failed to do his job properly and consequently is playing in Scotland I hate to be pedantic but isn't a Commer a van from the 60s? I always wanted a Dormobile conversion but ended up with a Matchbox milk float Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WolfOfWestStreet Posted April 4, 2016 Report Share Posted April 4, 2016 1 minute ago, BigAlToby&Liam said: I hate to be pedantic but isn't a Commer a van from the 60s? I always wanted a Dormobile conversion but ended up with a Matchbox milk float Don't care Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
One BCFC Posted April 4, 2016 Report Share Posted April 4, 2016 45 minutes ago, Robin1988 said: When he played he was very raw. He had potential and sometimes looked dangerous but you've completely made up that he was anywhere near class at the time. How would we know though as he never got played? Imagine him one wing and Adomah on the other, obviously Woolford was on another level to Bolasie at the time great decision from Millen and McInnes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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