Drew Peacock Posted April 25, 2016 Report Share Posted April 25, 2016 34 minutes ago, City169 said: I think our historical average position is one of the relegation places in this division. It can't be. That would mean we had been relegated every time we came up or finished within the bottom 5 every year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesBCFC Posted April 25, 2016 Report Share Posted April 25, 2016 1 hour ago, Drew Peacock said: It can't be. That would mean we had been relegated every time we came up or finished within the bottom 5 every year. Going from memory from a slightly out of date Bristol city book, but it was definitely 20th or lower in this division. It wouldn't mean we were relegated every year at all, as it would include our years in the 3rd and 4th divisions as well as the ones in the top 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drew Peacock Posted April 25, 2016 Report Share Posted April 25, 2016 28 minutes ago, City169 said: Going from memory from a slightly out of date Bristol city book, but it was definitely 20th or lower in this division. It wouldn't mean we were relegated every year at all, as it would include our years in the 3rd and 4th divisions as well as the ones in the top 2 It can't be. Given our record over the years it is mathematically impossible. It wouldn't include 3rd & 4th division years if we are talking about this division only. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesBCFC Posted April 25, 2016 Report Share Posted April 25, 2016 5 minutes ago, Drew Peacock said: It can't be. Given our record over the years it is mathematically impossible. It wouldn't include 3rd & 4th division years if we are talking about this division only. It isn't talking about this division only. Its over all divisions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drew Peacock Posted April 25, 2016 Report Share Posted April 25, 2016 12 minutes ago, City169 said: It isn't talking about this division only. Its over all divisions. Well, ignoring the fact that you said this division, over 104 years in the Football League we have finished 20th or lower 13 times and in the top ten 52 times so I would dearly like to know how averaging 20th works. It is complete tosh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesBCFC Posted April 25, 2016 Report Share Posted April 25, 2016 7 minutes ago, Drew Peacock said: Well, ignoring the fact that you said this division, over 104 years in the Football League we have finished 20th or lower 13 times and in the top ten 52 times so I would dearly like to know how averaging 20th works. It is complete tosh. I didn't say this division exclusively for the averages, I said our average was around 20th in this division. Perhaps I should have said our average was around 40th instead Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesBCFC Posted April 25, 2016 Report Share Posted April 25, 2016 32 minutes ago, City169 said: I didn't say this division exclusively for the averages, I said our average was around 20th in this division. Perhaps I should have said our average was around 40th instead Been and checked. Our average finishing position through our 103 league seasons is 42.36. Or 22nd in the championship. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drew Peacock Posted April 25, 2016 Report Share Posted April 25, 2016 13 minutes ago, City169 said: Been and checked. Our average finishing position through our 103 league seasons is 42.36. Or 22nd in the championship. How do you get 22nd? I calculate our average in the second tier to be around 13th. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shtanley Posted April 25, 2016 Author Report Share Posted April 25, 2016 2 minutes ago, Drew Peacock said: How do you get 22nd? I calculate our average in the second tier to be around 13th. On my god are you deliberately being stupid? They're on about throughout our history where our average position on the football league tier is, not just from our championship seasons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesBCFC Posted April 25, 2016 Report Share Posted April 25, 2016 3 minutes ago, Drew Peacock said: How do you get 22nd? I calculate our average in the second tier to be around 13th. I'm not talking about strictly second tier, and haven't done from the start. Over our entire league history our average position is 42.36, which is 22nd in the second tier Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drew Peacock Posted April 25, 2016 Report Share Posted April 25, 2016 5 minutes ago, City169 said: I'm not talking about strictly second tier, and haven't done from the start. Over our entire league history our average position is 42.36, which is 22nd in the second tier That is completely meaningless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesBCFC Posted April 25, 2016 Report Share Posted April 25, 2016 2 minutes ago, Drew Peacock said: That is completely meaningless. So why did you bother trying to argue about it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drew Peacock Posted April 25, 2016 Report Share Posted April 25, 2016 Just now, City169 said: So why did you bother trying to argue about it? Because I didn't understand what you originally said! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shtanley Posted April 25, 2016 Author Report Share Posted April 25, 2016 10 minutes ago, Drew Peacock said: That is completely meaningless. Well it's not, it has a meaning. The meaning is where in the football league pyramid is our average position. It's anything but meaningless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesBCFC Posted April 25, 2016 Report Share Posted April 25, 2016 8 minutes ago, Drew Peacock said: Because I didn't understand what you originally said! Apologies for not being clear, but I think what I was originally trying to say (been so long I've forgot now) was that despite the struggles what we have done this season is finish higher than what our average finishing position is. So in a way that is a positive, even if we only finish 20th Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
One Team In Keynsham Posted April 25, 2016 Report Share Posted April 25, 2016 17 minutes ago, Drew Peacock said: That is completely meaningless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted April 25, 2016 Report Share Posted April 25, 2016 Or to put it another way, had the division been 92 clubs, throughout our history, we would've finished 42nd on average. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesBCFC Posted April 25, 2016 Report Share Posted April 25, 2016 4 minutes ago, Davefevs said: Or to put it another way, had the division been 92 clubs, throughout our history, we would've finished 42nd on average. That's probably a clearer way of saying it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted April 25, 2016 Report Share Posted April 25, 2016 44 minutes ago, City169 said: That's probably a clearer way of saying it Not really, because some clever(er) sod will say that we'd have to play 91 teams home and away! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChippenhamRed Posted April 25, 2016 Report Share Posted April 25, 2016 1 hour ago, Davefevs said: Not really, because some clever(er) sod will say that we'd have to play 91 teams home and away! We'd have to play 91 teams home and away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted April 25, 2016 Report Share Posted April 25, 2016 11 minutes ago, ChippenhamRed said: We'd have to play 91 teams home and away. You missed the "!"..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChippenhamRed Posted April 25, 2016 Report Share Posted April 25, 2016 2 minutes ago, Davefevs said: You missed the "!"..... I prefer my humour dry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shelts Posted April 25, 2016 Report Share Posted April 25, 2016 On 23 April 2016 at 17:31, Andy082005 said: Happy to be named and shamed. Contrary to public belief I am a die hard City fan and posts like this mean we have stayed up. I'm happy to take that I wouldn't say we were 'really really wrong'. We have been dire for massive parts of this season, and at times have looked out of our depth, both on and off the pitch. We've been extremely lucky, but again, I'll take that You don't stay up by luck with two games to spare. We've had a brush with relegation!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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