BS3_RED Posted August 13, 2016 Report Share Posted August 13, 2016 3 minutes ago, NickJ said: Fairly sure AFTER the yellow Tomlin mouthed a further insult at the ref which either the ref ignored or chose to. Also has regular rants at Bryan and anyone else around. Love the skill and talent but not a team player. He did and ONeil could not get to the ref fast enough to try to defuse the situation. It was a shocking call by the lino mind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickJ Posted August 13, 2016 Report Share Posted August 13, 2016 2 minutes ago, BS3_RED said: He did and ONeil could not get to the ref fast enough to try to defuse the situation. It was a shocking call by the lino mind. 2 minutes ago, BS3_RED said: He did and ONeil could not get to the ref fast enough to try to defuse the situation. It was a shocking call by the lino mind. Yes it was but we all know Refs will make shocking decisions now and again as they are human not infallible robots and if Tomlin isn't clever enough to realise that he is going to let himself and more important the team and even more important the fans down. So if you are reading Lee wise up!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CTRed Posted August 13, 2016 Report Share Posted August 13, 2016 I feel the solution to this could be by playing the following 4-2-3-1 formation which I believe is probably LJ's preferred option. RO'D AM AF HM JB KS GO'N TA LT CO'D JK So, basically you have TA cutting in off the wing (could easily rotate this with JK during games) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milo1111 Posted August 13, 2016 Report Share Posted August 13, 2016 3 hours ago, cynic said: I think we can - but not in a 4-4-2 where he is isolated. 4-3-1-2 with him behind the front two. Narrow but with O'Neil, Pack, and Brownhill (Smith) behind him, its a strong line up and he can be the number 10 that we know he is. Totally agree. This is the only way it can work. Will end up with cod on the bench tho. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olé Posted August 14, 2016 Author Report Share Posted August 14, 2016 2 hours ago, Bullbag said: Talk about a complete over reaction. Says the bloke who tells me to get a grip and have a word with myself for passing comment from outside Burton's ground, on the tactics and standard of the performance, irrespective of the result, in a manner since substantiated by about 10 other posts from other people who were at the game. But yes, mine was the overreaction. Must he getting hot in your big glass house at the moment. Try breaking a few windows. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Army 87 Posted August 14, 2016 Report Share Posted August 14, 2016 Regardless of the performance, the most pleasing thing for me is our reaction to a set back in both league games so far. In the past we have been the sort of team to collapse after going a goal down / conceding a late equaliser. Now we have a group of players who can regroup and push on a make a difference, something we were crying out for last season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeh Posted August 14, 2016 Report Share Posted August 14, 2016 Good signs we aren't at the race but still win, when they gel we may well be this seasons Brighton/Bournemouth Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
downendcity Posted August 14, 2016 Report Share Posted August 14, 2016 1 hour ago, Red Army 87 said: Regardless of the performance, the most pleasing thing for me is our reaction to a set back in both league games so far. In the past we have been the sort of team to collapse after going a goal down / conceding a late equaliser. Now we have a group of players who can regroup and push on a make a difference, something we were crying out for last season. .........and very importantly, a manager prepared to make changes at the right time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major Isewater Posted August 14, 2016 Report Share Posted August 14, 2016 I hope we play this badly all season . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Esmond Million's Bung Posted August 14, 2016 Report Share Posted August 14, 2016 13 hours ago, The dastardly red said: I agree but must ask why don't you do emojis? Because I believe many of today's 'yout' believe them to be part of the English language, FFS some people even talk in emoji "sad face". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drew Peacock Posted August 14, 2016 Report Share Posted August 14, 2016 12 hours ago, milo1111 said: Will end up with cod on the bench tho. What a great impact sub he would be Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbored Posted August 14, 2016 Report Share Posted August 14, 2016 1 hour ago, Esmond Million's Bung said: Because I believe many of today's 'yout' believe them to be part of the English language, FFS some people even talk in emoji "sad face". Don't you smile when you see a ? No words necessary......We all know what the poster is saying..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charliesboots Posted August 14, 2016 Report Share Posted August 14, 2016 Would rather play crap, have shite tactics, be under the pundits radars, play up to being the unfashionable team if it means we win games, collect points and have a reasonably successful season. After last year I for one could do without the squeaky bum time after Christmas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Dawe Posted August 14, 2016 Report Share Posted August 14, 2016 16 hours ago, Robbored said: Playing crap and winning. I remember Liverpool doing that in the 70s and winning the league. I know (I think) what you're saying (they passed it back to Clem to pick up at 1:0 rather a lot?), but here's a stat for you: from season 70/71 to 79/80, Liverpool lost only nine (nine) home games. Ten seasons, 210 home games, lost nine. Yes, visiting referees and lines were influenced/biased/homers but averaging less than 1 defeat at home a season for 10 years. Amazing we beat them twice here back then and one draw at Anfield (I think?) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Dawe Posted August 14, 2016 Report Share Posted August 14, 2016 16 hours ago, Davefevs said: They didn't play crap that often. I think the "stats" bear you out there, fevs! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kibs Posted August 14, 2016 Report Share Posted August 14, 2016 Can't comment on the game because I wasn't there but if you had asked me before the game, how I expected it to go, I'd have said: Taking into consideration their home form last season (lost 2 all season), the small ground, tight pitch, the fact they gave Forest a real run last week (should have got something), it's their first home game in the Championship - I expect we'll have the ball an awful lot less than we'd like and we'll be put under a great deal of pressure. I'll take a draw now and if we're to get anything, we're really going to have to dig in. Sounds pretty much how it panned out. When we romped to the league 1 title I can remember similar reports following trips to Rochdale, Walsall and Crewe. That's football. We're not just a new team, it's easy to forget we're also quite a young team and with that will come inconsistency. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonBristolian Posted August 14, 2016 Report Share Posted August 14, 2016 Really important thing for me is we've played three games that, last season, we'd have lost or drawn and won all three of them. We need to improve but every point matters and we've a 6 point gap over Blackburn, Leeds, Preston, Newcastle and Burton and a 5 point gap over Rotherham and Derby. Whatever our hopes for the season, the first priority has to be to make sure we stay up and if we can win the games that we might have drawn, and draw some of the games we might have lost, that's going to be vital. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted August 14, 2016 Report Share Posted August 14, 2016 2 minutes ago, Kibs said: Can't comment on the game because I wasn't there but if you had asked me before the game, how I expected it to go, I'd have said: Taking into consideration their home form last season (lost 2 all season), the small ground, tight pitch, the fact they gave Forest a real run last week (should have got something), it's their first home game in the Championship - I expect we'll have the ball an awful lot less than we'd like and we'll be put under a great deal of pressure. I'll take a draw now and if we're to get anything, we're really going to have to dig in. Sounds pretty much how it panned out. When we romped to the league 1 title I can remember similar reports following trips to Rochdale, Walsall and Crewe. That's football. We're not just a new team, it's easy to forget we're also quite a young team and with that will come inconsistency. Kibs - you are spot on, plus, as there happens to be another side on the pitch it is rare for any team to play the perfect match. Sometimes all you need is 8-9 6/10s, and 2/3 top performances to win the game. It's when 2/3/4 have an off day you're in trouble. I think we will know much more about our side at the end of September (quite a way off), when Korey is back, Matthews is fit and both him and Magnússon are settled into the back four. Additionally Tammy won't score all the goals, and we'll see whether we can play him with Kocjia and Tomlin. I reckon we can, but it will take some sacrifices from one of all 3 of them, plus some changes to the midfield 3. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbored Posted August 14, 2016 Report Share Posted August 14, 2016 35 minutes ago, Jack Dawe said: I know (I think) what you're saying (they passed it back to Clem to pick up at 1:0 rather a lot?), but here's a stat for you: from season 70/71 to 79/80, Liverpool lost only nine (nine) home games. Ten seasons, 210 home games, lost nine. Yes, visiting referees and lines were influenced/biased/homers but averaging less than 1 defeat at home a season for 10 years. Amazing we beat them twice here back then and one draw at Anfield (I think?) Your first sentence is pretty much what I remember from those days. I also remember Liverpool nicking games with a late winner again and again. Even with 2mins left and a goal down you just knew they wouldn't lose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Esmond Million's Bung Posted August 14, 2016 Report Share Posted August 14, 2016 2 hours ago, Robbored said: Don't you smile when you see a ? No words necessary......We all know what the poster is saying..... Nope for 2 reasons firstly I feel that the person appending the emoji should have spent more time studying a thesaurus and secondly one person in particular uses them when he knows that he lacks a cogent argument. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeAman08 Posted August 14, 2016 Report Share Posted August 14, 2016 Sometimes it's better to be lucky than good. The fact that we are grinding out wins when we are clearly still gelling is wonderful and shows how far the lads have come in a year. We will play better, I'm sure of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Dawe Posted August 14, 2016 Report Share Posted August 14, 2016 21 hours ago, Olé said: That's three games in a row we've played like that and today we've literally mugged Burton despite being outplayed for most of it. The tactics are poor with no width, a real premium on creating chances (dependent on killer balls through the middle mainly) and losing out in midfield most of the time. Been same all three games, happy days 3 wins but let's not be complacent, the tactics have not worked for most of the 270 minutes and LJ needs to sort it out. Realise I've not justified this but walking right now, proper examples to follow when I'm on the train. If we bring in more new faces before September there will be more to "sort out" and more integration (or "gelling") to be done. And we have Sat-Tues-Sat-Tues-Sat then a chance to get up to Failand and work on what needs working on. Then it's SatTuesSat again before another free week. We need to give this time and hope that whilst we wait for performances to improve (which they need to do) we continue to pick up points. The recruitment this summer went better than expected and possibly raised expectations for the quality of football we might see. We haven't hit the ground running but it's a nine month season and we have time to get to where we want to be. I guess one of the disappointments in this is that the two "show" games are next and it will be a pity if our biggest crowds and some of our floating/occasional support don't see this team playing to it's potential. A scabby 1:0 win over Newcastle would be some consolation though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major Isewater Posted August 14, 2016 Report Share Posted August 14, 2016 6 minutes ago, JoeAman08 said: Sometimes it's better to be lucky than good. The fact that we are grinding out wins when we are clearly still gelling is wonderful and shows how far the lads have come in a year. We will play better, I'm sure of it. and lose . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeAman08 Posted August 14, 2016 Report Share Posted August 14, 2016 Just now, Major Isewater said: and lose . Possible. I think we need to pick and choose our matchups where we play football and get forward but we can do that when we actually start playing the free flowing football! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesBCFC Posted August 14, 2016 Report Share Posted August 14, 2016 On 13 August 2016 at 20:00, cynic said: I think we can - but not in a 4-4-2 where he is isolated. 4-3-1-2 with him behind the front two. Narrow but with O'Neil, Pack, and Brownhill (Smith) behind him, its a strong line up and he can be the number 10 that we know he is. I'm pretty certain I posted that exact lineup (at least the players named plus formation) on the Abraham thread before he had signed! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cider_boy Posted August 14, 2016 Report Share Posted August 14, 2016 8 hours ago, Robbored said: Don't you smile when you see a ? No words necessary......We all know what the poster is saying..... 6 hours ago, Esmond Million's Bung said: Nope for 2 reasons firstly I feel that the person appending the emoji should have spent more time studying a thesaurus and secondly one person in particular uses them when he knows that he lacks a cogent argument. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesBCFC Posted August 14, 2016 Report Share Posted August 14, 2016 1 minute ago, Cider_boy said: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
downendcity Posted August 14, 2016 Report Share Posted August 14, 2016 23 hours ago, Cider_boy said: and all of them only wins by 1 goal - Johnson out! A strange celebration CB, but if you want to get your Johnson out when we win by 1 goal then go ahead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cider_boy Posted August 14, 2016 Report Share Posted August 14, 2016 1 minute ago, downendcity said: A strange celebration CB, but if you want to get your Johnson out when we win by 1 goal then go ahead. Although apparently I will be escorted from the ground if I do it at Ashton Gate Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
downendcity Posted August 14, 2016 Report Share Posted August 14, 2016 20 minutes ago, Cider_boy said: Although apparently I will be escorted from the ground if I do it at Ashton Gate If it's a Little Lee then no one will notice. A Gary would be a different story! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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