WhistleHappy Posted August 29, 2016 Report Share Posted August 29, 2016 Maybe a Pack deal should be worked out with Ipswich (or any other club for that matter) ..... How about we keep Marlon and transfer his old man out on a free? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid in the Riot Posted August 29, 2016 Report Share Posted August 29, 2016 9 minutes ago, Robbored said: Can't argue with your points EMB but now would be a perfect time foe Skuse to come home to AG. We all know that LJ likes experienced players around the club and CS fits the bill perfectly. Plus LJ played alongside Skuse so will very aware of what a good job Skuse does. Skuse was no fan of Lee's old man so not entirely convinced he'd fancy coming back and playing under a second Johnson. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
formerly known as ivan Posted August 29, 2016 Report Share Posted August 29, 2016 Think it's clear Pack isn't a favourite of LJ for whatever reason. One league start so far isn't it? He was outstanding when he came on Saturday and he was one of our best players last season so something must be going on behind the scenes. Maybe it is to do with his dad shouting his mouth off about O'Neil. Just hope there is nothing in this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
INCRED Posted August 29, 2016 Report Share Posted August 29, 2016 I think CS is slightly different player to MP as Skuse is a defensive midfielder who breaks up play and controls the midfield but Marlon is a more forward looking passing player. As mentioned, LJ knows Skuse well having played together and is a city product.Ipswich going nowhere at the moment so a homecoming could be a possibility and is a very good deputy for GO. Still don't know how long KS will take to get up to speed but it appears LJ is clearing out Cotts signings Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bristol Rob Posted August 29, 2016 Report Share Posted August 29, 2016 I've clearly missed the whole 'Marlon's Dad' episode. What happened? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbored Posted August 29, 2016 Report Share Posted August 29, 2016 14 minutes ago, Kid in the Riot said: Skuse was no fan of Lee's old man so not entirely convinced he'd fancy coming back and playing under a second Johnson. That's very true but although LJ has his dad build and sounds like him they are ((fortunately) very different managers. I've had more enjoyment watching LJs teams than in entire time that his dad was in charge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Selred Posted August 29, 2016 Report Share Posted August 29, 2016 2 minutes ago, Robbored said: That's very true but although LJ has his dad build and sounds like him they are ((fortunately) very different managers. I've had more enjoyment watching LJs teams than in entire time that his dad was in charge. Really? You've never said.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chairman Mao Posted August 29, 2016 Report Share Posted August 29, 2016 10 minutes ago, Bristol Rob said: I've clearly missed the whole 'Marlon's Dad' episode. What happened? Had him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted August 29, 2016 Report Share Posted August 29, 2016 50 minutes ago, JoeAman08 said: Marlon Pack is different than anyone we've got. He's a presence in midfield in the air and has surprised me with his strength and keeping possesion. GON is what Smith will be. I've always said it should be Pack and GON/Smith midfield as GON certainly shouldn't be used for 90 minutes over 46 games. We will need him for next season as well. Need to be mindful. Pack has become one of my favourite players for how well he does his thankless job. For me, easily one of the more impressive holding midfielders I've seen in the championship. I think you could slot him in for any top team and they wouldn't miss a beat. My opinion of course. I truly think he hasn't been used as much as he's CB cover at the moment and with Smith out, better to keep one midfielder fit. Think we will eventually sign Ekstrand and when Smith is back, Pack will play much more. All about opinions Joe, but this time I disagree. The beauty of Smith and Pack was the old 'one little tenacious one, one good big'un' type partnership. Pack was used as an aerial screen in front of Flint and Baker last season. I think Smith and O'Neil will be our first choice when Smith is back and fully up to speed. O'Neil has shown his strength in the air too, making Marlon slightly less important. 31 minutes ago, formerly known as ivan said: Think it's clear Pack isn't a favourite of LJ for whatever reason. One league start so far isn't it? He was outstanding when he came on Saturday and he was one of our best players last season so something must be going on behind the scenes. Maybe it is to do with his dad shouting his mouth off about O'Neil. Just hope there is nothing in this. One league start, I think, because LJ is trying to find a way to get the best out of Tomlin. I think that he's played Bobby alongside O'Neil the last two home games not because he thinks Bobby us better in CM than Marlon, but because he can see a quicker pass, especially into LT that gives LT that little bit more time and space to be creative. Marlon still an important part of this squad. Saturday's 20 minute cameo was an excellent case in point. He was sharp, strong and keep the fall moving....partly proving a point that the gaffer should've started him. We've got cup games and double game weeks to come, nice to see we've got first eleven players on the bench. You wouldn't mind Pack and Smith, O'Neil and Reid in any combination would you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
REDOXO Posted August 29, 2016 Report Share Posted August 29, 2016 2 hours ago, Robbored said: The debate about Skuse and his ability is unresolvable so no point getting into it again. I just feel for those who couldn't see what a top player he was at City. I do agree tho that Pack has age on his side. I doubt that City would be interested in doing a cash plus Skuse deal, however Skuse and LJ are buddies so never say never! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ashton_fan Posted August 29, 2016 Report Share Posted August 29, 2016 Pack's dad did say amongst other things that he'd been offered a new deal which was rubbish. If he's refusing to sign and in his final year we may want to cash in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Dawe Posted August 29, 2016 Report Share Posted August 29, 2016 3 hours ago, Bristol Rob said: I've clearly missed the whole 'Marlon's Dad' episode. What happened? He ran on the pitch Saturday, mate..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gillies Downs Leeds Posted August 29, 2016 Report Share Posted August 29, 2016 1 hour ago, ashton_fan said: Pack's dad did say amongst other things that he'd been offered a new deal which was rubbish. If he's refusing to sign and in his final year we may want to cash in. He also said Korey wasn't happy with his offer yet he signed a new contract. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ciderbeans Posted August 29, 2016 Report Share Posted August 29, 2016 Pack is slowly being pushed down pecking order. Oneil first choice, smith to come back as well and Reid preferred. Given we also have brownhill who is a LJ signing, think pack could be moved on along with freeman if we sign any more wingers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cov 77 Posted August 29, 2016 Report Share Posted August 29, 2016 4 hours ago, REDOXO said: I doubt that City would be interested in doing a cash plus Skuse deal, however Skuse and LJ are buddies so never say never! I just don't get the Skuse fans , from all accounts a nice lad and City through and through but drove most of the people I know mad , sideways passes most of the time and couldn't tackle to save his life , good at marking space though, prefer Pack any time and really hope he stays Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lanterne Rouge Posted August 29, 2016 Report Share Posted August 29, 2016 2 minutes ago, Cov 77 said: I just don't get the Skuse fans , from all accounts a nice lad and City through and through but drove most of the people I know mad , sideways passes most of the time and couldn't tackle to save his life , good at marking space though, prefer Pack any time and really hope he stays He is definitely marmite. I liked him but knew it was time for him to move on when he did. I think Marlon could end up being a better player though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bristol Rob Posted August 29, 2016 Report Share Posted August 29, 2016 3 hours ago, ciderbeans said: Pack is slowly being pushed down pecking order. Oneil first choice, smith to come back as well and Reid preferred. Given we also have brownhill who is a LJ signing, think pack could be moved on along with freeman if we sign any more wingers Or he could train harder, practice more and make himself indispensable. (Not saying he doesn't already train hard and practice, before anyone misses the point). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashtonwurzel Posted August 29, 2016 Report Share Posted August 29, 2016 6 hours ago, formerly known as ivan said: Think it's clear Pack isn't a favourite of LJ for whatever reason. One league start so far isn't it? He was outstanding when he came on Saturday and he was one of our best players last season so something must be going on behind the scenes. Maybe it is to do with his dad shouting his mouth off about O'Neil. Just hope there is nothing in this. LJ got rid of Agard who had the penalty fiasco and ignored team orders, Ayling who was involved in the Cheltenham "pissgate" incident and perhaps Pack is going to be a victim of his Dad revealing transfer issues prematurely. May all be total coincidence but LJ does give off the air of someone who doesn't suffer fools gladly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
formerly known as ivan Posted August 29, 2016 Report Share Posted August 29, 2016 5 minutes ago, Ashtonwurzel said: LJ got rid of Agard who had the penalty fiasco and ignored team orders, Ayling who was involved in the Cheltenham "pissgate" incident and perhaps Pack is going to be a victim of his Dad revealing transfer issues prematurely. May all be total coincidence but LJ does give off the air of someone who doesn't suffer fools gladly. Disappointing if this is indeed what happens. LA and KA were fully responsible for their own actions. Pack can't help what his dad puts on social media, unless it was Pack talking about the deal to begin with Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamalagerdrinker Posted August 29, 2016 Report Share Posted August 29, 2016 Wouldn't want him to leave cause his Dad was a **** on Facebook Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashtonwurzel Posted August 29, 2016 Report Share Posted August 29, 2016 1 minute ago, iamalagerdrinker said: Wouldn't want him to leave cause his Dad was a **** on Facebook More likely that he hasn't signed his new "improved" contract but his Dad can't have helped matters. Probably nothing in it though but if it did happen then that would be a pattern. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy082005 Posted August 29, 2016 Report Share Posted August 29, 2016 25 minutes ago, Ashtonwurzel said: LJ got rid of Agard who had the penalty fiasco and ignored team orders, Ayling who was involved in the Cheltenham "pissgate" incident and perhaps Pack is going to be a victim of his Dad revealing transfer issues prematurely. May all be total coincidence but LJ does give off the air of someone who doesn't suffer fools gladly. I dont think its anything to do with that. Pack is a good honest hardworking player....however if we want to progress, we need better players then him. We are doing now what we all hoped would happen when we got promoted. We are signing better players than the ones already here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashtonwurzel Posted August 29, 2016 Report Share Posted August 29, 2016 6 minutes ago, Andy082005 said: I dont think its anything to do with that. Pack is a good honest hardworking player....however if we want to progress, we need better players then him. We are doing now what we all hoped would happen when we got promoted. We are signing better players than the ones already here As I said all could be total coincidence and what you say makes sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pickle Rick Posted August 29, 2016 Report Share Posted August 29, 2016 47 minutes ago, Red Right Hand said: He is definitely marmite. I liked him but knew it was time for him to move on when he did. I think Marlon could end up being a better player though. Is it Marlon's time to move on though? And yes, he could well end up being a better player than Skuse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smokey Posted August 29, 2016 Report Share Posted August 29, 2016 2 minutes ago, Scrumpy said: Is it Marlon's time to move on though? And yes, he could well end up being a better player than Skuse. I don't think is time for Marlon to move on, a player who has improved every season since he was signed. I hope we get him to sign a new contract and he can keep improving at the same rate as Bristol City improving. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivorguy Posted August 29, 2016 Report Share Posted August 29, 2016 I like a manager who is in charge and won't stand prima Donna nonsense Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cityexile Posted August 29, 2016 Report Share Posted August 29, 2016 23 minutes ago, Ivorguy said: I like a manager who is in charge and won't stand prima Donna nonsense I agree, although no proof at all that Pack in any way falls under this heading. I see a hard working, developing championship player. I say this with some care, but much as I love him the player who maybe has elements of this is actually Tomlin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lanterne Rouge Posted August 29, 2016 Report Share Posted August 29, 2016 5 minutes ago, cityexile said: I agree, although no proof at all that Pack in any way falls under this heading. I see a hard working, developing championship player. I say this with some care, but much as I love him the player who maybe has elements of this is actually Tomlin. I don`t think you need to be careful there mate, it`s plain to all of us that LT wants to be the main man and is likely to get the hump if he isn`t. The difference is that LJ, MA and SL knew exactly what they were getting when we signed him and were willing to take that risk. If he wasn`t that sort of personality he wouldn`t be half the player he is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy082005 Posted August 29, 2016 Report Share Posted August 29, 2016 1 hour ago, smokey live said: I don't think is time for Marlon to move on, a player who has improved every season since he was signed. I hope we get him to sign a new contract and he can keep improving at the same rate as Bristol City improving. Marlon has improved loads. He adapted very well to this league. Question is....would he be happy with rotating? He certainly isnt guaranteed in a starting position. He has really suprised me. Out of all our midfielders, I thought he would be the first on the 'cut list' If someone like Ipswich comes knocking, offers him a payrise and more first team football....I wouldnt blame him not to take it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Acton Red Posted August 29, 2016 Report Share Posted August 29, 2016 1 hour ago, Scrumpy said: Is it Marlon's time to move on though? And yes, he could well end up being a better player than Skuse. Hasnt got Skuse's engine. he was such an athlete. great touch, lots of skill, lacked confidence in his own ability Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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