slartibartfast Posted October 22, 2016 Report Share Posted October 22, 2016 2 minutes ago, Kid in the Riot said: As per usual it was the Thornbury boys making all the noise !! How did you know I was BORN in Thornbury? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Hunt-Hertz Posted October 23, 2016 Report Share Posted October 23, 2016 9 hours ago, CotswoldRed said: I seem to remember 07 and 08 being pretty good Yeah, OK. Not universally crap, but terracing contributes greatly to atmosphere. At least everyone stood in the EE that season, so effectively it was terracing. Maybe sweeping statements should be avoided! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Skin Posted October 23, 2016 Report Share Posted October 23, 2016 11 hours ago, Magger1 said: ....and let a bit of passion take over , your wife's not looking.... What kinda of passion are you looking for, fella? I couldn't make yesterday's game so evidently you missed my singing! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
winterbournered Posted October 23, 2016 Report Share Posted October 23, 2016 I watched it on a stream from Bein sports, the commentators on there were saying what a great atmosphere it was and how teams won't like coming to Ashton Gate. They mentioned how great the stadium is and how it keeps the noise in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bar BS3 Posted October 23, 2016 Report Share Posted October 23, 2016 27 minutes ago, winterbournered said: I watched it on a stream from Bein sports, the commentators on there were saying what a great atmosphere it was and how teams won't like coming to Ashton Gate. They mentioned how great the stadium is and how it keeps the noise in. It certainly wasn't "great" throughout the game, especially first half, however, when it gets going it is loud. When the team are attacking I can see why neutrals could be impressed. It's better than a lot of other grounds I've visited and we are sometimes a bit hard on ourselves. A game like Swindon in the promotion season, in the now complete stadium would sound superb. As mentioned above, if everyone stops moaning about a perceived problem and just shouts a bit louder, a bit more often, Ashton Gate can be pretty special. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forza Revolution Posted October 23, 2016 Report Share Posted October 23, 2016 Atmosphere is a two way thing. Can't deny fans didn't make an effort pre match. Then up to the players to inspire occasionally which was a rarity today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bar BS3 Posted October 23, 2016 Report Share Posted October 23, 2016 16 minutes ago, Forza Revolution said: Atmosphere is a two way thing. Can't deny fans didn't make an effort pre match. Then up to the players to inspire occasionally which was a rarity today. It's been rubbish all morning. Can't argue with that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phileas Fogg Posted October 23, 2016 Report Share Posted October 23, 2016 21 minutes ago, Bar BS3 said: It certainly wasn't "great" throughout the game, especially first half, however, when it gets going it is loud. When the team are attacking I can see why neutrals could be impressed. It's better than a lot of other grounds I've visited and we are sometimes a bit hard on ourselves. A game like Swindon in the promotion season, in the now complete stadium would sound superb. As mentioned above, if everyone stops moaning about a perceived problem and just shouts a bit louder, a bit more often, Ashton Gate can be pretty special. Agree, I'd we're much better than average vocally both home and away. When it gets going at AG it can be a brilliant atmosphere. There are lots of lulls though where the lack of noise is very obvious. Glad other sections of the ground seem to be joining in more now after all the moving around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
INCRED Posted October 23, 2016 Report Share Posted October 23, 2016 13 hours ago, formerly known as ivan said: How bad was it today? At times it was so quiet you could hear the players on the pitch. Was a great offer by the club for tickets today and one that I took advantage and maybe it contributed to the lack of atmosphere. Maybe it was the poor game of football and not giving the crowd enough to get excited about, or maybe it was just the occasion. Was very strange all round. It's been like that at a few home games but think it's more lack of action tbh. When we started to have a go in the second half and the crowd livened up the atmosphere was better and all stands made some noise. Thought it was impressive especially west stand with both tiers involved for first time. Can only imagine what it could be like if we are still up in the top 6 at the end of the season and the team gets the vociferous support for the whole game. I would imagine quite intimidating for visiting teams and a boost for our players Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
South Somerset Red Posted October 23, 2016 Report Share Posted October 23, 2016 2 hours ago, Mike Hunt-Hertz said: Yeah, OK. Not universally crap, but terracing contributes greatly to atmosphere. At least everyone stood in the EE that season, so effectively it was terracing. Maybe sweeping statements should be avoided! Everyone stands consistently in atyeo stand. They need to find a part of the stadium where they can have a bigger section of fans joining in. Personally for me they should relocate away fans somewhere else and give all of the atyeo to home fans. Now where they relocate the away fans is a different matter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Hunt-Hertz Posted October 23, 2016 Report Share Posted October 23, 2016 2 minutes ago, South Somerset Red said: Everyone one stands consistently in atyeo stand. They need to find a part of the stadium where they can have a bigger section of fans joining in. Personally for me they should relocate away fans somewhere else and give all of the atyeo to home fans. Now where they relocate the away fans is a different matter. I completely agree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeh Posted October 23, 2016 Report Share Posted October 23, 2016 6 minutes ago, South Somerset Red said: Everyone stands consistently in atyeo stand. They need to find a part of the stadium where they can have a bigger section of fans joining in. Personally for me they should relocate away fans somewhere else and give all of the atyeo to home fans. Now where they relocate the away fans is a different matter. Relocate them where? Should have given the atyeo to the away fans and make the south stand cheaper and move the singers there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Hunt-Hertz Posted October 23, 2016 Report Share Posted October 23, 2016 2 minutes ago, Monkeh said: Relocate them where? Should have given the atyeo to the away fans and make the south stand cheaper and move the singers there That`s OK, until an away contingent of one man and his dog turn up! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bar BS3 Posted October 23, 2016 Report Share Posted October 23, 2016 21 minutes ago, Monkeh said: Relocate them where? Should have given the atyeo to the away fans and make the south stand cheaper and move the singers there This has been covered SO many times! The club can't make areas of the SS unreserved and unlimited standing. They aren't allowed too. Why should the SS be made cheaper if "the singers" move there..? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
South Somerset Red Posted October 23, 2016 Report Share Posted October 23, 2016 28 minutes ago, Monkeh said: Relocate them where? Should have given the atyeo to the away fans and make the south stand cheaper and move the singers there This is the problem. Me personally i would put them in dolman e32-e34 but cant see it happening. Fans all have different ideas and views of how we should resolve this but it does need to be resolved because the current system of having your vocal support squashed into a small corner of the ground is crap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCFC Grim Posted October 23, 2016 Report Share Posted October 23, 2016 14 hours ago, 054123 said: On reflection, we sit in the Atyeo and there's always someone trying to start a song. Some get going, some don't. If you like singing and atmosphere sit on the Atyeo. Appalling atmosphere? What's new? As for the above? I like singing and love a good atmosphere. They now selling seats in the atyeo? No? Still a closed shop? Yeh thought so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tinmans Love Child Posted October 23, 2016 Report Share Posted October 23, 2016 The atmosphere is always best when the game's better I.e goals, sendings off etc etc and when there is more riding on it I.e. Need to win to stay up or get promoted. Without those elements it is inevitably poor, at City anyway. On Tuesday night we have a chance to reach Qtr's, so there is something riding on the result, so that's a tick, if there are goals and incident as well it will be cracking as it has been many times, even since they put seats in. How good was the atmosphere v Swindon two seasons ago, or Palace in the playoffs for example, a poor atmosphere has little to do with having seats put in Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tinmans Love Child Posted October 23, 2016 Report Share Posted October 23, 2016 34 minutes ago, Bar BS3 said: This has been covered SO many times! The club can't make areas of the SS unreserved and unlimited standing. They aren't allowed too. Why should the SS be made cheaper if "the singers" move there..? If the singers got over the wanting to stand up thing there would be no problem moving them to another location and improving the atmosphere. They are cutting their nose off staying in the Atyeo because they can stand up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major Isewater Posted October 23, 2016 Report Share Posted October 23, 2016 14 hours ago, Mike Hunt-Hertz said: Safe standing. AG has been shit since we did away with terracing. I actually don't think that we as supporters of City have regularly ' created a cauldron of noise ' from the off . Even in the good old days in the East End . Is it our reserved West Country personalities ? Those Cockney's are brash buggers with a sense of entitlement likewise the followers of the big clubs . We have n't won much or bothered the top division too often in our history so perhaps it's an inferiority complex which leads us to believe the worst ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major Isewater Posted October 23, 2016 Report Share Posted October 23, 2016 56 minutes ago, South Somerset Red said: This is the problem. Me personally i would put them in dolman e32-e34 but cant see it happening. Fans all have different ideas and views of how we should resolve this but it does need to be resolved because the current system of having your vocal support squashed into a small corner of the ground is crap. We feel much more isolated and self concious when we sing sitting down , on the terrasses we were more as one . Do choirs ever sing sitting down ? No they don't . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ohbasso Posted October 23, 2016 Report Share Posted October 23, 2016 57 minutes ago, South Somerset Red said: This is the problem. Me personally i would put them in dolman e32-e34 but cant see it happening. Fans all have different ideas and views of how we should resolve this but it does need to be resolved because the current system of having your vocal support squashed into a small corner of the ground is crap. This would be my choice for seating arrangements too. It would be great to have home fans behind both goals, one end reserved seating and one end unreserved standing. If the away fans were in the left hand side of the Dolman the stand would be easy to segregate internally and because the home fans would be in reserved seats I'm guessing that they could do away with the acres of segregation they have in the Atyeo and just have a thin strip of netting and a few stewards like you see at most grounds. The only problem would be moving existing season ticket holders but the club were prepared to do this to relocate the Atyeo season ticket holders so it's not that unlikely that it could be done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phileas Fogg Posted October 23, 2016 Report Share Posted October 23, 2016 21 minutes ago, Major Isewater said: I actually don't think that we as supporters of City have regularly ' created a cauldron of noise ' from the off . Even in the good old days in the East End . Is it our reserved West Country personalities ? Those Cockney's are brash buggers with a sense of entitlement likewise the followers of the big clubs . We have n't won much or bothered the top division too often in our history so perhaps it's an inferiority complex which leads us to believe the worst ? I remember you've posted these sentiments before but I don't agree, there's too much social mobility these days for geography to radically alter supporter behaviour so I think that's nonsense. Club size comes into it more, if you are a bigger club with more supporters you'll have more vocal fans. Most clubs have a dedicated 'end' or area for these fans.. the Holte End being one of the best in the country. Aston Villa Barnsley Birmingham City Blackburn Rovers Brentford Brighton & Hove Albion Bristol City Burton Albion Cardiff City Derby County Fulham Huddersfield Town Ipswich Town Leeds United Newcastle United Norwich City Nottingham Forest Preston North End Queens Park Rangers Reading Rotherham United Sheffield Wednesday Wigan Athletic Wolverhampton Wanderers This list is all the clubs in this league this season, out of those I'd say only Wolves, Sheffield Weds, Newcastle, Leeds, Villa and Huddersfield (because of their big 'ultra' section) have better home support than us. All of those bar Huddersfield are much bigger clubs than us too with big attendances. I think in comparison to most clubs we're good, especially away. The only away supports in this league I think when they come to AG are louder and have a better repertoire of songs than us are Wednesday, Leeds and Newcastle (I didn't see Villa this season, - Wolves and Birmingham can be very good too). Wednesday, Leeds and Newcastle all stand away from home and it makes a difference. Think people should operate using the rule clubs like United do, ignore the ticket number - singers towards the back. If you think back to the most vocal of our away supports' over the years, I bet they'll be from games where a large % all stood. Charlton away last season was the standout for me in the last 12 months, the day LJ was appointed, everything was a bit uncertain but tentatively positive - a feeling where everyone needed to pull together. We won, it was a great atmosphere and most stood. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wanderingred Posted October 23, 2016 Report Share Posted October 23, 2016 Its not a club problem, its a nationwide problem. How many UK grounds these days generate a decent atmosphere? I went to Red Star Belgrade a couple of months back and they didnt shut up for the whole 90 minutes. I even went to a Taiwan v Macau Asian cup qualifier last year and the fans were louder than then are here. Its embarassing. Modern stadia with reserved seating, thentraditional working class fanbase being priced out of games, jobsworth stewards... Plenty of reasons for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Hunt-Hertz Posted October 23, 2016 Report Share Posted October 23, 2016 20 minutes ago, Major Isewater said: I actually don't think that we as supporters of City have regularly ' created a cauldron of noise ' from the off . Even in the good old days in the East End . Is it our reserved West Country personalities ? Those Cockney's are brash buggers with a sense of entitlement likewise the followers of the big clubs . We have n't won much or bothered the top division too often in our history so perhaps it's an inferiority complex which leads us to believe the worst ? Quite right. I think West Country folk aren`t inclined towards gobshitery, so anything that can make us noisier (terraces/ safe standing) has got to be good? I think when the mood suits, we are up there with the best of them...and a successful team helps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marmite Posted October 23, 2016 Report Share Posted October 23, 2016 From the South Stand the effort with flags and atmosphere, and the Gow tribute in the Atyeo, was pretty good. Its a sad fact that the stadium will only rock when things are happening on the pitch first. Yesterday was just a bad game hence little crowd reaction apart from the Atyeo. Regarding the black and red flags. I saw them being collected in the South Stand after the game and being handed to a steward. But I also saw one being waved by someone by KFC after the match. Should they have all been handed back? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bar BS3 Posted October 23, 2016 Report Share Posted October 23, 2016 4 minutes ago, marmite said: From the South Stand the effort with flags and atmosphere, and the Gow tribute in the Atyeo, was pretty good. Its a sad fact that the stadium will only rock when things are happening on the pitch first. Yesterday was just a bad game hence little crowd reaction apart from the Atyeo. Regarding the black and red flags. I saw them being collected in the South Stand after the game and being handed to a steward. But I also saw one being waved by someone by KFC after the match. Should they have all been handed back? Yes, I believe that all PR about the arrangement of this asked for flags to all be returned for future use. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robin in Qatar Posted October 23, 2016 Report Share Posted October 23, 2016 listened to it on Radio Bristol. Sounded too quiet considering there was 21,000 fans in the ground Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unan Posted October 23, 2016 Report Share Posted October 23, 2016 2 hours ago, Tinmans Love Child said: If the singers got over the wanting to stand up thing there would be no problem moving them to another location and improving the atmosphere. They are cutting their nose off staying in the Atyeo because they can stand up. Footballs always been standing, why is it suddenly the people that are being traditional that're in the wrong when its other rules that're changing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bristol Rob Posted October 23, 2016 Report Share Posted October 23, 2016 2 hours ago, Griffin said: Footballs always been standing, why is it suddenly the people that are being traditional that're in the wrong when its other rules that're changing? Point of correction; terracing has always been standing. When I started going to football there was a significant choice of where you could watch football on your feet. EastEnd - terrace Open End - terrace Lower Grandstand - terrace School Boy enclosure - terrace Everywhere else was seated. (Granted, that wasn't much). But with the odd exception of Dolman block B rising to their feet, those in seats sat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
054123 Posted October 23, 2016 Report Share Posted October 23, 2016 8 hours ago, BCFC Grim said: Appalling atmosphere? What's new? As for the above? I like singing and love a good atmosphere. They now selling seats in the atyeo? No? Still a closed shop? Yeh thought so. What a silly post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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