awbb Posted January 21, 2017 Share Posted January 21, 2017 Saw someone mention "getting the DeLorean" in another thread as well as me mentioning the Summer of Akinbiyi, Thorpe and Andersen signing in some transfer thread about Luke Freeman and it got me thinking that if I could go back in time to any point since I have been following City (90/91) and make a single change regarding a transfer, what would it be? Stopping us from signing Thorpe would be pretty much the best thing I can think of. Before I go on. Let me clarify something. I always liked Thorpe. Natural finisher, lazy as hell but would always give us a chance to win if the rest of the team gave him a chance to score. But in 98/99? We did not need him, he cost a lot of money that could have been better spent elsewhere and made a huge difference to our fortunes since then. My understanding is that summer we really wanted Akinbiyi and paid Scally our club record fee that he was probably worth. We then went after Andersen but Aalborg played mega hardball over him and we backed off and signed Thorpe instead for another million quid... then Aalborg said we could have Andersen for some knock down price of £400K so we said yes and had no money left to go get the Keeper, Right-back, 2 centre backs, and central midfielder (IMHO!) that we needed to stay up that season. Not that I would be allowed to make those specific signings, since the rule is that only 1 thing can be changed! That million quid could have gone a long way to making a difference, certainly enough to keep in us up that year and bearing in mind we were just coming up to the bonkers money in the Prem, us being in Div 1 for all or a period of, might have made a difference, rather than the 9 seasons we spent slogging away under Pulis, T3WM, Wilson,Tina and GJ in Div 2/League 1. So, if you had the DeLorean what would you do if you could change one thing that happened at City since you have supported us? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inactive user Posted January 21, 2017 Share Posted January 21, 2017 I'd never have let Pinamonte go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Balls Posted January 21, 2017 Share Posted January 21, 2017 Dropped Cheesley for the first home game against Stoke in 1976 when he got clattered by Peter Shilton effectively ending his career. Either that or take an orthopaedic surgeon back to 1976 to do a modern repair on his cruciate and have him back playing in 3-4 months. One of the biggest "what ifs" in the club's history. Who knows what we might have achieved if he had been able to play for us in the old 1st Division. Certainly wouldn't have been struggling all that season, or probably the subsequent ones. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lrrr Posted January 21, 2017 Share Posted January 21, 2017 Get Johnson to bring Maynard in during January in our play off season. May have cost a bit more but by adding him 6 months earlier could it have been what we needed to put us over the line for promotion.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 21, 2017 Share Posted January 21, 2017 David James. He set the scene for the overspending shambles we became. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Balls Posted January 21, 2017 Share Posted January 21, 2017 10 minutes ago, hodge said: Get Johnson to bring Maynard in during January in our play off season. May have cost a bit more but by adding him 6 months earlier could it have been what we needed to put us over the line for promotion.... Bradley Orr not getting knocked out in the Play off final is another one of those major "what ifs". Elliott stays in midfield & LJ stays on the bench. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lrrr Posted January 21, 2017 Share Posted January 21, 2017 1 minute ago, Dr Balls said: Bradley Orr not getting knocked out in the Play off final is another one of those major "what ifs". Elliott stays in midfield & LJ stays on the bench. On the note of the play off final, Frazier Campbell being loaned to us instead of hull being another Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RumRed Posted January 21, 2017 Share Posted January 21, 2017 Go back to 1894 and plant a bloody gert big sign saying "use this date". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cityloyal473 Posted January 21, 2017 Share Posted January 21, 2017 I'd go back to the date of our last managerial announcement and would have had Warnock being unveiled. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cityloyal473 Posted January 21, 2017 Share Posted January 21, 2017 28 minutes ago, JamesBCFC said: The point was to make things better. He's made things better for Cardiff. They were 2nd bottom of the table with 8 points when he took over. They are now 3 above us. He's taken 22 points from 14 games. Do you know how many we've taken in the same period? 7 (and we've played a game extra). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Septic Peg Posted January 21, 2017 Share Posted January 21, 2017 2 hours ago, Dr Balls said: Bradley Orr not getting knocked out in the Play off final is another one of those major "what ifs". Elliott stays in midfield & LJ stays on the bench. This. Also if I had a time travelling Delorean, chances are I'd have an invisibility cloak so I'd run on the pitch and stick my leg out to old windy ass... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vincent Vega Posted January 21, 2017 Share Posted January 21, 2017 2 hours ago, cityloyal473 said: I'd go back to the date of our last managerial announcement and would have had Warnock being unveiled. This is why people will never be allowed to travel back in time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarksRobin Posted January 21, 2017 Share Posted January 21, 2017 6 hours ago, awbb said: Saw someone mention "getting the DeLorean" in another thread as well as me mentioning the Summer of Akinbiyi, Thorpe and Andersen signing in some transfer thread about Luke Freeman and it got me thinking that if I could go back in time to any point since I have been following City (90/91) and make a single change regarding a transfer, what would it be? Stopping us from signing Thorpe would be pretty much the best thing I can think of. Before I go on. Let me clarify something. I always liked Thorpe. Natural finisher, lazy as hell but would always give us a chance to win if the rest of the team gave him a chance to score. But in 98/99? We did not need him, he cost a lot of money that could have been better spent elsewhere and made a huge difference to our fortunes since then. My understanding is that summer we really wanted Akinbiyi and paid Scally our club record fee that he was probably worth. We then went after Andersen but Aalborg played mega hardball over him and we backed off and signed Thorpe instead for another million quid... then Aalborg said we could have Andersen for some knock down price of £400K so we said yes and had no money left to go get the Keeper, Right-back, 2 centre backs, and central midfielder (IMHO!) that we needed to stay up that season. Not that I would be allowed to make those specific signings, since the rule is that only 1 thing can be changed! That million quid could have gone a long way to making a difference, certainly enough to keep in us up that year and bearing in mind we were just coming up to the bonkers money in the Prem, us being in Div 1 for all or a period of, might have made a difference, rather than the 9 seasons we spent slogging away under Pulis, T3WM, Wilson,Tina and GJ in Div 2/League 1. So, if you had the DeLorean what would you do if you could change one thing that happened at City since you have supported us? My memory is a bit hazy. When did we sign Sebok, Testimitanu and Sorensen? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olé Posted January 21, 2017 Share Posted January 21, 2017 As I recall, by Back To The Future II the DeLorean could go forward in time too. I would go forward 10 years and pick up the future Lee Johnson and bring him back here, thus achieving universal approval from all sides on OTIB by a) not changing the manager, but b) no longer having to deal with an inexperienced experimental manager learning on the job. Everyone happy? (I'd also pick up that Sports Almanac with all the results, so we can make millions of transfer funds betting on sports, thus guaranteeing LJ will be a success. If there's time left I'd ask Doc Brown to take us to the UWE stadium, but I don't think he ever got the DeLorean to go that many years forward). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olé Posted January 21, 2017 Share Posted January 21, 2017 1 minute ago, WarksRobin said: My memory is a bit hazy. When did we sign Sebok, Testimitanu and Sorensen? Soren Andersen was signed by John Ward at the start of the season along with Akinbiyi. Lennartsson signed Sebok, Testimitanu and that goalkeeper Bo Andersen mid-season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedM Posted January 21, 2017 Share Posted January 21, 2017 Moysie wouldn't have flown back from his holiday for no reason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spudski Posted January 21, 2017 Share Posted January 21, 2017 6 hours ago, awbb said: Saw someone mention "getting the DeLorean" in another thread as well as me mentioning the Summer of Akinbiyi, Thorpe and Andersen signing in some transfer thread about Luke Freeman and it got me thinking that if I could go back in time to any point since I have been following City (90/91) and make a single change regarding a transfer, what would it be? Stopping us from signing Thorpe would be pretty much the best thing I can think of. Before I go on. Let me clarify something. I always liked Thorpe. Natural finisher, lazy as hell but would always give us a chance to win if the rest of the team gave him a chance to score. But in 98/99? We did not need him, he cost a lot of money that could have been better spent elsewhere and made a huge difference to our fortunes since then. My understanding is that summer we really wanted Akinbiyi and paid Scally our club record fee that he was probably worth. We then went after Andersen but Aalborg played mega hardball over him and we backed off and signed Thorpe instead for another million quid... then Aalborg said we could have Andersen for some knock down price of £400K so we said yes and had no money left to go get the Keeper, Right-back, 2 centre backs, and central midfielder (IMHO!) that we needed to stay up that season. Not that I would be allowed to make those specific signings, since the rule is that only 1 thing can be changed! That million quid could have gone a long way to making a difference, certainly enough to keep in us up that year and bearing in mind we were just coming up to the bonkers money in the Prem, us being in Div 1 for all or a period of, might have made a difference, rather than the 9 seasons we spent slogging away under Pulis, T3WM, Wilson,Tina and GJ in Div 2/League 1. So, if you had the DeLorean what would you do if you could change one thing that happened at City since you have supported us? It's the one season that frustrates me the most too. And I agree with your points. John Ward and SC are my least liked managers for this Club...both won us promotion from League 1, then both screwed up. They were similar in many ways. Both said they couldn't do any better with what they had. Both complained it was the boards fault and didn't get the backing they wanted. Both sulked and got in a strop. We had some great players that season, and even though we went down, it was one of my most fondest years following City. Benny was a great coach imo...he was dropped in at the deep end though. It was backs to the wall stuff...and I remember the fans really getting behind Benny and the lads, even though we struggled most match's. The West Brom away game that season epitomised the whole sorry affair. I remember talking to our CM Carl Hutchings in Po Na Na's one night...he said he was out of his depth, and felt like a headless chicken some games, as it was such a big step up for him. I still to this day wonder how things would have been different if we had stayed up and kept Benny on as a Coach...not manager. Some good players in that team... Bell, Brennan, Tinnion, Murray, Doc, Testi, Akinbiyi, Andersson, Seebok, Thorpe, Taylor.... Just needed a few more in the positions you stated and that would have kept us up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buster Footman's T shirt Posted January 21, 2017 Share Posted January 21, 2017 Would never have appointed Russel Osman. Seemed easy option at the time and although initially had a modicum of sucess (kept us up, Liverpool win) the style of football became dour and conservative. Fell out with Jackie and filled the side with cloggers such as Dave Martin and Glenn Pennyfather. Took thr club along time to get over that. Fans stayed away in droves. Still seems like a bad dream Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
man in the middle Posted January 21, 2017 Share Posted January 21, 2017 get Maynard to tell up he wanted to leave and hold us to ransom before we sell Brett Pitman rather than after, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old_eastender Posted January 21, 2017 Share Posted January 21, 2017 6 hours ago, hodge said: Get Johnson to bring Maynard in during January in our play off season. May have cost a bit more but by adding him 6 months earlier could it have been what we needed to put us over the line for promotion.... This, any goal scorer signed in that January window would have surely seen us go on to clinch automatic promotion. Gary Johnson's biggest mistake by far, and he made plenty thereafter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aaron-Bcfc Posted January 21, 2017 Share Posted January 21, 2017 7 hours ago, hodge said: Get Johnson to bring Maynard in during January in our play off season. May have cost a bit more but by adding him 6 months earlier could it have been what we needed to put us over the line for promotion.... Disagree, it took him a year to get going with us Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BS2 Red Posted January 21, 2017 Share Posted January 21, 2017 I'd go back to the mid 70s and have a word with the board about the finances and the importance of balancing the books.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olé Posted January 21, 2017 Share Posted January 21, 2017 1 hour ago, spudski said: I remember talking to our CM Carl Hutchings in Po Na Na's one night...he said he was out of his depth Of course he might have been a touch less out of his depth if he spent less time in Po Na Na's and every other late night club in Bristol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sephjnr Posted January 21, 2017 Share Posted January 21, 2017 8 hours ago, hodge said: Get Johnson to bring Maynard in during January in our play off season. May have cost a bit more but by adding him 6 months earlier could it have been what we needed to put us over the line for promotion.... I'd phone up and cancel Maynard's skiing holiday. He was never the same since the injury. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarksRobin Posted January 21, 2017 Share Posted January 21, 2017 1 hour ago, JamesBCFC said: You seem to think we are a far bigger draw than we actually are. Even then, the point was improvement. Warnock is a great short term manager. Personally I'd prefer the club had a longer term plan than "**** it, shit or bust" Every time we try to establish a long term plan, we eventually have a poor spell and supporters lose patience, followed by SL, and we start over again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aizoon Posted January 21, 2017 Share Posted January 21, 2017 4 hours ago, Doozerchris said: This is why people will never be allowed to travel back in time I think that's why Einstein created Relativity Theory. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Horse With No Name Posted January 21, 2017 Share Posted January 21, 2017 8 hours ago, 29AR said: David James. He set the scene for the overspending shambles we became. Plus he was absolutely crap for us Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reddoh Posted January 21, 2017 Share Posted January 21, 2017 6 hours ago, Septic Peg said: This. Also if I had a time travelling Delorean, chances are I'd have an invisibility cloak so I'd run on the pitch and stick my leg out to old windy ass... if you had shoved your big toe up his arse he may have exploded. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lrrr Posted January 21, 2017 Share Posted January 21, 2017 1 hour ago, Aaron-Bcfc said: Disagree, it took him a year to get going with us 10/11 in his first season? Hardly a terrible return, but my point was more about the type of striker he was. We had what adebola, trundle, brooker and byfield who was our top scorer on 8 goals. If Maynard could have come in and scored 6/7 who knows the effect it could have had. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Hunt-Hertz Posted January 21, 2017 Share Posted January 21, 2017 We should have splashed out on a quality striker in Jan 2008. Instead we got Dele Adebola. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
petehinton Posted January 21, 2017 Share Posted January 21, 2017 Just now, Mike Hunt-Hertz said: We should have splashed out on a quality striker in Jan 2008. Instead we got Dele Adebola. Who was unbelievable for us in the last few months of the season. One of the most underrated strikers we've had. I'd go back and not appoint McInnes. And sell Marvin Elliott for the £4m Wolves were rumoured to have bid for him. He was never the same player after 2009. We could've done so much with that money back then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
One BCFC Posted January 21, 2017 Share Posted January 21, 2017 Got rid of GJ after play off campaign. It all went downhill from there up until SC was appointed Manager. GJ was literally out of his depth in trying to push us on to the next level - we really should have become ruthless. Dire football, dire signings from that playoff final until the appointment of Cotterill. 5 years of absolute rubbish - Steve Coppell, David James, Nicky Hunt, embarassing home defeats followed by poor managerial appointments in Millen, McInnes and the non table looking SOD taking us to the bottom of L1. We owe Steve Cotterill a lot, I know it will annoy some because of last season but we do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrahamC Posted January 21, 2017 Share Posted January 21, 2017 9 hours ago, hodge said: Get Johnson to bring Maynard in during January in our play off season. May have cost a bit more but by adding him 6 months earlier could it have been what we needed to put us over the line for promotion.... In his first full season with us Maynard scored 11, so the likelihood is that in a season earlier on in his development he would have scored less. The much maligned Dele Adebola scored at a better ratio than that over the course of the play off season, so I'd argue if we had signed him in the summer we might well have gone up.. (Just to prove my point someone has slagged him off on this thread whilst I'm writing this). Hard to argue with the Cheesley post though.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lack of Action Man Posted January 21, 2017 Share Posted January 21, 2017 It was me who mentioned firing up the delorean. But, if I'm honest, I'd trade it in for a TARDIS any day. Much better MPG. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shelts Posted January 21, 2017 Share Posted January 21, 2017 Summer recruitment after doing the double. End of last season give Tomlin back to Bournemouth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DANWRENBCFC4LIFE Posted January 21, 2017 Share Posted January 21, 2017 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
where's the joy Posted January 21, 2017 Share Posted January 21, 2017 gerry sharps broken leg at home to middlesboro is the first moment i would like to change in my 50 years of supporting city. an under 23 england prospect suffers career ending 'tackle' and all the brio he brought to our team ended there and then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Fleuriot Posted January 21, 2017 Share Posted January 21, 2017 Some great shouts in here. Much less provable, but one thing I've always wondered is what would have happened if we had given Millen the role straight from caretaker and not appointed Coppell. Probably wouldn't have hamstrung us with those four signings (James, Hunt, Stewart, and midfielder whose name escapes me). Millen would have gone into that close season with momentum and a sense of what he wanted to achieve. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted January 21, 2017 Share Posted January 21, 2017 1909 Sandy Turnbull failed a fitness test. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
downendcity Posted January 21, 2017 Share Posted January 21, 2017 2 hours ago, Aizoon said: I think that's why Einstein created Relativity Theory. I thought it was Gary Johnson who created the theory of relativity. That's the theory that enables you to employ the whole family. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Fleuriot Posted January 21, 2017 Share Posted January 21, 2017 5 minutes ago, Davefevs said: 1909 Sandy Turnbull failed a fitness test. I have no idea how good Sandy Turnbull was. But yeah - either hobbling Man United or enhancing City so that we could win the league and the cup in 1907 / 1909 would have been nice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
054123 Posted January 21, 2017 Share Posted January 21, 2017 Forget transfers. Go back and convince the people that mattered to just create 1 league club I Bristol. I honestly believe the success and support would have been immense. Also develop a full international airport at Patchway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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