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Hi all.

Upset? Yes I am!

So, I've been reading all the posts why we should not stay with Lee Johnson but there's not really one place where folk can state reasons why we should back him.

So, why? Any reasons why bcfc should stick with the manager who's broken the all time record? Is he the Phoenix who raises from the flames /shite or was it to much too soon for Lee?

Theres a lot of threads against, so I suppose this is for balance....... So... Why?

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2 minutes ago, Marty said:

Hi all.

Upset? Yes I am!

So, I've been reading all the posts why we should not stay with Lee Johnson but there's not really one place where folk can state reasons why we should back him.

So, why? Any reasons why bcfc should stick with the manager who's broken the all time record? Is he the Phoenix who raises from the flames /shite or was it to much too soon for Lee?

Theres a lot of threads against, so I suppose this is for balance....... So... Why?

Because he's a symptom, not the cause of the problem.

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2 minutes ago, Marty said:

Hi all.

Upset? Yes I am!

So, I've been reading all the posts why we should not stay with Lee Johnson but there's not really one place where folk can state reasons why we should back him.

So, why? Any reasons why bcfc should stick with the manager who's broken the all time record? Is he the Phoenix who raises from the flames /shite or was it to much too soon for Lee?

Theres a lot of threads against, so I suppose this is for balance....... So... Why?

This could be the  shortest thread this evening. 

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1 minute ago, Rednwhiterob said:

Because he's a symptom, not the cause of the problem.

Yawn

here we go AGAIN with one sentence claims

As you've been asked on other threads perhaps you'd like to expand 

Or as it appears Somebody posting nonsense without any knowledge at all 

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I do wonder; is managerial success an art? Is it less alchemy and more a case of controlling 24 odd *********...

give yourself sports scientists, pyscholgists, physics, could a trained chimp not do the job if it weren't for personalities ...

ps I make no comment on us just generally. Personally I think 'manager' is vastly overrated. All players want is an ego massage; a massage I ain't giving. 

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3 minutes ago, BobBobSuperBob said:

Yawn

here we go AGAIN with one sentence claims

As you've been asked on other threads perhaps you'd like to expand 

Or as it appears Somebody posting nonsense without any knowledge at all 

Can understand where both of you are coming from. It seems under LJ that no matter the standard of player we have / buy, he doesn't seem to be able to sort out of the lack of confidence or be able to move the team forward. However, seems like it may not be only the junior management who has the problem, if you get my drift.

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1 minute ago, JHAGa said:

Because regardless of what manager is at the helm, the same sh**e always happens at this club.

Not entirely true. 

We are a smallish club. Fact. 

On League points over the last 50 years we are in the top 10 clubs in the country. 

Beats fighting relegation EVERY season. 

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1 minute ago, CotswoldRed said:

Not entirely true. 

We are a smallish club. Fact. 

On League points over the last 50 years we are in the top 10 clubs in the country. 

Beats fighting relegation EVERY season. 

 

We've fought relegation 6 of the last 7 seasons.

 

We have the 10th (or somewhere close) highest average attendance in the Championship this season.

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1 minute ago, Bcfc24 said:

A serious answer from me... because whoever we put in charge next won't care about the club anywhere near as much as LJ

You don't need to care to do a good job. 

Although you need to be good at your job. 

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3 hours ago, Rednwhiterob said:

They are all a disaster for us.  Maybe the issue is elsewhere in the club?

 

4 hours ago, Rednwhiterob said:

'His signings'?  You sure?

 

4 hours ago, Rednwhiterob said:

My 'take' on today is much the same.  LJ is just the next scapegoat for the problems elsewhere in the club. 

 

4 hours ago, Rednwhiterob said:

I thought all these overseas imports were supposed to be the answers to all our prayers? 

 

16 minutes ago, Rednwhiterob said:

Because he's a symptom, not the cause of the problem.

 

15 minutes ago, BobBobSuperBob said:

Yawn

here we go AGAIN with one sentence claims

As you've been asked on other threads perhaps you'd like to expand 

Or as it appears Somebody posting nonsense without any knowledge at all 

Got to agree with BBSB on this. You either know what's gone/going on (or think you do) or you're just on a Saturday night wind up.

How about you give us all the benefit of your knowledge so that we can draw our own conclusions?

If your stance on LJ is to stick with him, then just plough that furrow (lonely as it may be at this time), without resorting to being supposedly ITK without providing any evidence to back it up.

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Stick with LJ, the start of the season was great, something has gone wrong but nobody seems able to figure out what. You watch the team and they aren't doing too much wrong, yet we don't win. If we had played 90 minutes like we played the last 5 today, we would have murdered them. Have to say Steve Cotterill wasn't given the same chance, and he moved us up a league. 

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2 minutes ago, Meryl Goodrum said:

Stick with LJ, the start of the season was great, something has gone wrong but nobody seems able to figure out what. You watch the team and they aren't doing too much wrong, yet we don't win. If we had played 90 minutes like we played the last 5 today, we would have murdered them. Have to say Steve Cotterill wasn't given the same chance, and he moved us up a league. 

We can't figure out what has gone wrong but let's stick with it?

A manager is paid to figure out what has gone wrong and fix it. 

Goodbye LJ

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17 minutes ago, Malbec said:

 

 

 

 

 

Got to agree with BBSB on this. You either know what's gone/going on (or think you do) or you're just on a Saturday night wind up.

How about you give us all the benefit of your knowledge so that we can draw our own conclusions?

If your stance on LJ is to stick with him, then just plough that furrow (lonely as it may be at this time), without resorting to being supposedly ITK without providing any evidence to back it up.

No pretense of being ITK. It's just how I see the decision making at the club from the top down.

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1 minute ago, Marty said:

Still not any wiser as to why we should......

stil looking for positives.

A precedent was set 27 years ago. Plummet towards the bottom of a division, win an away cup tie 1-0, lose the next two league games and then... the world is your mussel.

Stands to reason that history is about to repeat itself.

I'd give LJ two more league games. If he loses both then he's obviously not Sir Alex's natural heir and we'll have to think again but were he to lose the next but win the one after... well... we might have just struck lucky.

That's all I got.

 

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2 minutes ago, Cider_boy said:

Lee's just doing what we want.

We were on the verge of the playoffs, and there were posts on here by some about how they wouldn't like to be in the soulless Prem.

He's just making sure that doesn't happen.

Well done Lee, job done now though!

Helpful 

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2 minutes ago, Rednwhiterob said:

No pretense of being ITK. It's just how I see the decision making at the club from the top down.

That's ok mate. I was just interested to know if you knew/had heard something that wasn't common knowledge.

Although I would still be interested in why/how you've arrived at that viewpoint and who you feel is maybe 'letting LJ down' on that front.

Keep banging the drum for LJ if that's what you want to do. No-one should think any the less of you if that's your position.

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We're all f**cked of at the moment and I'm afraid the last train has left the station for Lee Johnson WHY several reasons talking a good game to the cameras doesn't make you a good manger.

1. Team selection after a year as a manager you should know your players and best formation surely and signing 17 players for millions of pounds the getting a first eleven should be relatively simple

2. Man management constantly slating players publicly is not the way to build moral when confidence is as low as what it is at the moment,Rows arguments with players need I go on.

3. Transfer policies Too many players to sign in a Calander year need gelling. Personally would like three quality signings a season.

3. Bounce back ability 8 on the trot and surprisingly not the first team he has done it which is shocking really.

Lee grab your coat it's time to go thanks but no thanks

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11 minutes ago, WestonRobin said:

Reasons to stick with LJ.

Hmmmm, right, here goes:

1) Ummmmmmmm, nope, got nothing. Sorry

Correct.

Question 2) Will SL ever appoint a manager who can match the club's & our ambitions?

Not on past evidence I would suggest.

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Just now, Dr Balls said:

Correct.

Question 2) Will SL ever appoint a manager who can match the club's & our ambitions?

Not on past evidence I would suggest.

Depends on what the club's ambitions actually are of course, not the flannel we're fed.

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I've been very openly pro LJ. I'm still not fully convinced that replacing him will suddenly change much, but I am very dissapointed by today. 

We had some (small) momentum from the midweek cup win, we've made some good additions to the squad and I expected today's performance (even if not result) to show signs of rejuvenated confidence. That didn't sound the case. 

I would LOVE LJto be a success here, but it's very hard to defend such a prolonged dire run. 

Do I think he's lost the dressing room! NO

Do I think he/we've had ample bad luck/misfortune during the bad run? YES

Have we looked completely inept and out of our depth during any/many games? NO

However, am I starting to look at our squad and ask if they could flourish under different management? YES, I think they could. I believe we have some real quality there. 

How long can SL stand by (rightly so up until now, imho) with the run as it is and the upcoming fixtures.?

The other, massive question is who..? It's all very well saying Rowett, Rostler, Klinsman, etc etc, but we have no idea if they or anyone is even an option. 

It's a tough, huge call for SL to make. The one thing he has on his side now is that nobody, including LJ, could accuse him of being knee jerk. 

My ideal scenario is still for LJ to get a result, then build on it, see us safe and finalise his squad in the summer. Do I believe, truly that's it's going to happen..? I'm not so sure anymore. 

Let's remember one thing though.. it's easy to shout "sack the manager" after a few defeats. It's a much bigger call to try and stand by them, invest further and keep believing. I respect SL for his patience. I'm embarrassed by many "supporters" recently. When the going gets tough, they've "jumped ship" and shown the backbone of a snake. Not all, of course, but some are too quick to throw in the towel. 

The one think I do rest easy with, whatever the outcome, is that SL has the best interests of this club at heart and will do what he and his confidants believe to be the right thing by us, the supporters. 

CTID!

 

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7 minutes ago, RumRed said:

Or a decent one for a premiership Rugby team with nice event spaces...

Not sure that plan looks rock solid either at the moment. That said they seem to be doing much better under a caretaker coach. Sound familiar??

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5 minutes ago, Bar BS3 said:

I've been very openly pro LJ. I'm still not fully convinced that replacing him will suddenly change much, but I am very dissapointed by today. 

We had some (small) momentum from the midweek cup win, we've made some good additions to the squad and I expected today's performance (even if not result) to show signs of rejuvenated confidence. That didn't sound the case. 

I would LOVE LJto be a success here, but it's very hard to defend such a prolonged dire run. 

Do I think he's lost the dressing room! NO

Do I think he/we've had ample bad luck/misfortune during the bad run? YES

Have we looked completely inept and out of our depth during any/many games? NO

However, am I starting to look at our squad and ask if they could flourish under different management? YES, I think they could. I believe we have some real quality there. 

How long can SL stand by (rightly so up until now, imho) with the run as it is and the upcoming fixtures.?

The other, massive question is who..? It's all very well saying Rowett, Rostler, Klinsman, etc etc, but we have no idea if they or anyone is even an option. 

It's a tough, huge call for SL to make. The one thing he has on his side now is that nobody, including LJ, could accuse him of being knee jerk. 

My ideal scenario is still for LJ to get a result, then build on it, see us safe and finalise his squad in the summer. Do I believe, truly that's it's going to happen..? I'm not so sure anymore. 

Let's remember one thing though.. it's easy to shout "sack the manager" after a few defeats. It's a much bigger call to try and stand by them, invest further and keep believing. I respect SL for his patience. I'm embarrassed by many "supporters" recently. When the going gets tough, they've "jumped ship" and shown the backbone of a snake. Not all, of course, but some are too quick to throw in the towel. 

The one think I do rest easy with, whatever the outcome, is that SL has the best interests of this club at heart and will do what he and his confidants believe to be the right thing by us, the supporters. 

CTID!

 

Seriously.....are you on drugs?

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Surely SL being a businessman, he would want his operational managers to have some strength of character to stand up for what they believe. And surely SL as majority shareholder should be able to understand whether or not those beliefs will benefit the "business" to enable him to be able to make the appropriate decisions so that the business would not fail?

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3 minutes ago, Mike Hunt-Hertz said:

Eerrm...there aren't any.

You've got thread, after thread, after thread to pick on what you see as the negatives. 

Why chose this one to post such a limp wristed, pointless input..?

 

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1 hour ago, Bcfc24 said:

A serious answer from me... because whoever we put in charge next won't care about the club anywhere near as much as LJ

 

1 hour ago, 'keepuplino' said:

Shit answer 

 

1 hour ago, CotswoldRed said:

You don't need to care to do a good job. 

Although you need to be good at your job. 

Those three posts made me chuckle tonight, dunno why, they just did.  Thanks :clapping:

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1 hour ago, CotswoldRed said:

Not entirely true. 

We are a smallish club. Fact. 

On League points over the last 50 years we are in the top 10 clubs in the country. 

Beats fighting relegation EVERY season. 

A smallish club attracting the 11th best average attendance in the division - on a record breaking losing run.

We are better supported than Bournemouth. 

Only Sheff Utd and Pompey in the leagues below have better support.

So currently, we are just about in the top one third - or top of the middle third - of clubs in the country (the 92) for average attendance. Not bad for a smallish club. On a losing streak.

Just goes to show the "potential" here still, despite the ongoing sh1te we get to watch

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1 minute ago, 'keepuplino' said:

 

People could really say the same for the ones who blindly support a manager who is totally embarrassing out great club... 

 

This is no blind support, I just sincerely think (as SL) that LJ is the right man for the job. Nothing pathetic with that, but MHH's reactions here are pathetic.

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1 minute ago, Benni said:

This is no blind support, I just sincerely think (as SL) that LJ is the right man for the job. Nothing pathetic with that, but MHH's reactions here are pathetic.

I see LJ's friends and family have turned up again.

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2 minutes ago, Benni said:

This is no blind support, I just sincerely think (as SL) that LJ is the right man for the job. Nothing pathetic with that, but MHH's reactions here are pathetic.

You are a troll, or someone who is so blinded to the chuffing obvious, I am unsure whether you should be out without your minders. Hard to tell on OTIB.....I suspect the former.

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Just now, Mike Hunt-Hertz said:

You are a troll, or someone who is so blinded to the chuffing obvious, I am unsure whether you should be out without your minders. Hard to tell on OTIB.....I suspect the former.

Just **** off and start supporting the club, ****

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1 minute ago, Benni said:

This is absolutely brilliant. NickJ is having the time of his life here. 

Maybe except I am consistent with my name and my honesty. You have been here before under a different name, Mr/Mrs Johnson.

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