RobintheRed Red Posted January 22, 2017 Report Share Posted January 22, 2017 39 minutes ago, ciderbeans said: Because Rotherham, Blackburn, burton and Wigan are below us and no matter how bad we are, they will be worse Hope your right Rotherham Burton but not sure about the others Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Hunt-Hertz Posted January 22, 2017 Report Share Posted January 22, 2017 5 minutes ago, JoeAman08 said: Nah we tend to have that extra focus in big games. Yesterday was supposedly "a big game". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tears in rain Posted January 22, 2017 Report Share Posted January 22, 2017 11 minutes ago, Chivs said: I'm amazed that people are overlooking the fact that every year Rotherham look doomed and by some sort of (black) magic they manage to escape. And get results against us! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Dawe Posted January 22, 2017 Report Share Posted January 22, 2017 45 minutes ago, ciderbeans said: Because Rotherham, Blackburn, burton and Wigan are below us and no matter how bad we are, they will be worse you're not at Heston Services, are you ciderbeans? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Hunt-Hertz Posted January 22, 2017 Report Share Posted January 22, 2017 Just now, Jack Dawe said: you're not at Heston Services, are you ciderbeans? Blimey....LJ has really aged over the last week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CM90 Posted January 22, 2017 Report Share Posted January 22, 2017 50 minutes ago, ciderbeans said: Because Rotherham, Blackburn, burton and Wigan are below us and no matter how bad we are, they will be worse Very naive. Burton is a tough place to go and they will pick up points at home. Blackburn have done the double over Newcastle and have some decent players. Don't think they'll go down. Rotherham yes and Wigan not so sure. I would not class finishing 20th as "progress". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ho335ie Posted January 22, 2017 Report Share Posted January 22, 2017 1 hour ago, ciderbeans said: Because Rotherham, Blackburn, burton and Wigan are below us and no matter how bad we are, they will be worse This has got to be the most foolish and arrogant post this weekend, all of these teams have picked up points in their last 8 games! The thought that the board might be thinking along these lines is simply terrifying, to think that teams are below us now means they will finish below us is ludicrous, 11 defeats in 12 is not just a blip its relegation form and with our next run of fixtures could get a hell of a lot worse! RELEGATION IS A VERY REAL THREAT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Joker Posted January 22, 2017 Report Share Posted January 22, 2017 Lets stop kidding ourselves,if the sorcerers apprentice remains in control we will go down, no good relying on other teams to save our bacon,TBH i cant see us winning another game,hope as much as you want but the damage is already done because what we lack is inspiration and a fighting spirit and that's one recipe that the incumbent that's running the show will never concoct . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry Sheene Posted January 22, 2017 Report Share Posted January 22, 2017 1 hour ago, ciderbeans said: Because Rotherham, Blackburn, burton and Wigan are below us and no matter how bad we are, they will be worse But every team in the country are in better form than us at the moment Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gert Mare Posted January 22, 2017 Report Share Posted January 22, 2017 Comical Ali strikes again. There is no invasion, we will crush the infadels! Honestly, if anyone can't see how doomed we are right now then I am sorry they are either a Sag in disguise on a wind up or they don't have a clue about football. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeAman08 Posted January 22, 2017 Report Share Posted January 22, 2017 1 hour ago, Mike Hunt-Hertz said: Yesterday was supposedly "a big game". Meant against the "better" teams. We've played well against the 3 that come down granted all in August. Just think we'll have an extra focus in those games and get a result. We don't have a bad squad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
samo II Posted January 22, 2017 Report Share Posted January 22, 2017 21 minutes ago, JoeAman08 said: Meant against the "better" teams. We've played well against the 3 that come down granted all in August. Just think we'll have an extra focus in those games and get a result. We don't have a bad squad. I don't know about that; we lost to both Norwich and Newcastle, and were abject and losing at half time against Villa, with an incredibly turn around getting us the points. And the problem we face is even if we did win one or those games, it wouldn't be enough unless we start routinely beating sides around us - and the last eight games prove conclusively we simply cannot do that. I'm sorry, but LJ has shown nothing to suggest he can motivate the team to beat form or high quality teams; I do not see us getting the points required with him in charge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dynamite Red Posted January 22, 2017 Report Share Posted January 22, 2017 I will say this only once in the hope of getting this point across. FFS WAKE UP AND SMELL THE COFFEE, WE WILL BE RELEGATED IF WE CONTINUE LIKE THIS. Johnson out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cityloyal473 Posted January 22, 2017 Report Share Posted January 22, 2017 2 hours ago, ciderbeans said: Because Rotherham, Blackburn, burton and Wigan are below us and no matter how bad we are, they will be worse Would that be the Rotherham that recently beat Norwich? The Blackburn that recently beat Newcastle? And the Wigan that have won two on the bounce? Deluded. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tears in rain Posted January 22, 2017 Report Share Posted January 22, 2017 2 minutes ago, cityloyal473 said: Would that be the Rotherham that recently beat Norwich? The Blackburn that recently beat Newcastle? And the Wigan that have won two on the bounce? Deluded. And there lays the problem for us. Assuming we can beat all 4 of the sides down the bottom then great... But while they claw back and progress at the right time we drop backwards without any confidence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeAman08 Posted January 22, 2017 Report Share Posted January 22, 2017 20 minutes ago, samo II said: I don't know about that; we lost to both Norwich and Newcastle, and were abject and losing at half time against Villa, with an incredibly turn around getting us the points. And the problem we face is even if we did win one or those games, it wouldn't be enough unless we start routinely beating sides around us - and the last eight games prove conclusively we simply cannot do that. I'm sorry, but LJ has shown nothing to suggest he can motivate the team to beat form or high quality teams; I do not see us getting the points required with him in charge. Opinions. I just think whoever the manager is, the player will be well up for all 3 of those. Rightly or wrongly I think it's human nature. We'll see. As far as the first 3 against them I look at it differently. Newcastle got a goal and sat back against Bristol City. It was a compliment at the time. Norwich was away and I think it was a good solid performance and we got beat by one mistake. Villa we had a poor first half but then showed how capable we are in the second. The team isn't bad just in a rut under an inexperience manager. Games like those can be a real bonding experience. I don't expect a win but I wouldn't be shocked if we got 3 points off one of those. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sodburyred Posted January 22, 2017 Report Share Posted January 22, 2017 Forest were probably one of the worst teams I've seen at the gate in a long time this season and I keep using them as an example of why we won't get relegated..... Well they've just beaten us so that arguments flawed. I would not back us to beat any of the teams below us right now and fully expect us to be on the bottom 3 in the next few weeks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cityloyal473 Posted January 22, 2017 Report Share Posted January 22, 2017 Just now, sodburyred said: Forest were probably one of the worst teams I've seen at the gate in a long time this season and I keep using them as an example of why we won't get relegated..... Well they've just beaten us so that arguments flawed. I would not back us to beat any of the teams below us right now and fully expect us to be on the bottom 3 in the next few weeks. And then there will be more delusion from certain elements. I can see it now - sat in the bottom three and Johnson fan club going, "well, we're only 3 points behind 21st place" "two wins will see us catch Wigan" "exactly where we were this time last season and we got out of that". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Red Hat Posted January 22, 2017 Report Share Posted January 22, 2017 2 hours ago, Jack Dawe said: "I have before me the teamshe.....eh? What's that Steve?..............Oh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Esmond Million's Bung Posted January 22, 2017 Report Share Posted January 22, 2017 3 hours ago, ciderbeans said: Because Rotherham, Blackburn, burton and Wigan are below us and no matter how bad we are, they will be worse Really? there is a flaw to this dream at this moment in time, take a look at the last 8 league games (remember them?) on this championship stats page. Firstly are you confident that at the moment we can even get a result against any of the teams that you mention? and secondly would you like to predict when can look forward to our next win, given the teams that we are playing in February?. I hope you are right of course I do, but I just cannot see us winning a game at present, something has to significantly change. http://www.soccerstats.com/latest.asp?league=england2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roe Posted January 22, 2017 Report Share Posted January 22, 2017 Because it's only January and we've only recently passed half way through the season? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major Isewater Posted January 22, 2017 Report Share Posted January 22, 2017 Look everybody I've made an origami swan . Ok ,it's my first attempt . Oy Nev, it's me Isewater up here , yes . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iron Acton Red Posted January 22, 2017 Report Share Posted January 22, 2017 3 hours ago, ciderbeans said: Because Rotherham, Blackburn, burton and Wigan are below us and no matter how bad we are, they will be worse Wigan and Blackburn will both be picking up points, i would'nt get too confident. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
We live in hope Posted January 22, 2017 Report Share Posted January 22, 2017 3 hours ago, ciderbeans said: Because Rotherham, Blackburn, burton and Wigan are below us and no matter how bad we are, they will be worse Umm not sure about that look at our last ten and Rotherham kick our ass! So do the others you mention! ;-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Posted January 22, 2017 Report Share Posted January 22, 2017 Anyone who was there yesterday wouldnt be at all confident. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1960maaan Posted January 22, 2017 Report Share Posted January 22, 2017 We have one thing that the teams below us don't , sadly that is Lee Johnson. We are THE form team for defeats, and that makes us THE worst team currently. I don't care who is below us, as it stands I can't see a win any time soon and forget others results, continue as we are and we will go down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pillred Posted January 22, 2017 Report Share Posted January 22, 2017 3 hours ago, weepywall said: Probably need another 20 points to stay up, try as I might I really can't see where we can get 20 points. hard to disagree, though we cant be that bad can we? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fiale Posted January 22, 2017 Report Share Posted January 22, 2017 All the teams below us are going to overtake us in the coming week or two, I would not rely on beating them, as they are currently all playing better than us and getting points. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Esmond Million's Bung Posted January 22, 2017 Report Share Posted January 22, 2017 12 minutes ago, Super said: Anyone who was there yesterday wouldnt be at all confident. You had a really bad day yesterday Buddy?. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
samo II Posted January 22, 2017 Report Share Posted January 22, 2017 29 minutes ago, JoeAman08 said: Opinions. You're right of course; it is just that. But I think looking back at performances in September as any sort of indication as to how we'll do now is bold. For context; Newcastle only beat Rotherham 1-0 away back in early October, and yesterday took them apart 4-0 at St. James - I'd suggest we would get similar treatment. Same with Villa, who we were fortunate to face before Bruce was apppointed, and think they'd be a different proposition now. Even if the players did up their game to face the top sides (and I don't doubt they would; just that it wouldn't make any difference), I cannot see us getting points in enough games to stay up right now, based on how we set up and the apparoch we take. And that comes from LJ, hence why I think we're in need of a new head coach. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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