Major Isewater Posted February 28, 2017 Report Share Posted February 28, 2017 Well , a top performance at Newcastle has made many people talk of the corner being turned and LJ is ' In ' once again. I don't want to diminish that effort , it took balls to go there and get something in front of fifty thousand Geordies and a team at the top of the League but now we must see the same levels of performance every week . As someone posted on here it's a bit like the teams who up their game in the cup when playing Man Utd . The standards have been set and we must not drop off because every match between now and the end of the season is a ' cup final ' . We need to win nearly half of our remaining matches ,to get to 50 points, something we've struggled to do since October last year so we are not out of the woods just yet . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCFC Grim Posted February 28, 2017 Report Share Posted February 28, 2017 The same was said after Derby........that went well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yatesuperreds Posted February 28, 2017 Report Share Posted February 28, 2017 wait until we play our next two games Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted February 28, 2017 Report Share Posted February 28, 2017 Far from convinced 50 points will be needed to stay up this year, usually it is a guarantee but you don't often need that many. As little as 4 more wins might do it. Especially if we avoid hammerings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Red Hat Posted February 28, 2017 Report Share Posted February 28, 2017 11 minutes ago, Mr Popodopolous said: Far from convinced 50 points will be needed to stay up this year, usually it is a guarantee but you don't often need that many. As little as 4 more wins might do it. Especially if we avoid hammerings. We don't seem to be doing too well on the 'win' front, how about we draw every remaining game? We know that every goal we score will be countered by at least the same amount as our team seems to resemble a bunch of tired teddies after half time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted February 28, 2017 Report Share Posted February 28, 2017 6 minutes ago, Roger Red Hat said: We don't seem to be doing too well on the 'win' front, how about we draw every remaining game? We know that every goal we score will be countered by at least the same amount as our team seems to resemble a bunch of tired teddies after half time. The good news is, Burton, Wigan and Blackburn don't win many either! Only 2 of them need to remain as they are and Rotherham gone means we will scrape home. We have winnable games at home especially which is what gives me a bit of hope- and the fact there are absolutely 3 worse sides than us, maybe 4. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vincent Vega Posted February 28, 2017 Report Share Posted February 28, 2017 21 minutes ago, yatesuperreds said: wait until we play our next two games I've been waiting since October..! With the current coach in place we WILL be relegated imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Posted February 28, 2017 Report Share Posted February 28, 2017 I don't think any of the bottom teams will put much of a run together can see this going right down to the last couple of games. Could easily come down to Brum at home........... the club that relegated us last time! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alessandro Posted February 28, 2017 Report Share Posted February 28, 2017 43 minutes ago, Major Isewater said: Well , a top performance at Newcastle has made many people talk of the corner being turned and LJ is ' In ' once again. I don't want to diminish that effort , it took balls to go there and get something in front of fifty thousand Geordies and a team at the top of the League but now we must see the same levels of performance every week . As someone posted on here it's a bit like the teams who up their game in the cup when playing Man Utd . The standards have been set and we must not drop off because every match between now and the end of the season is a ' cup final ' . We need to win nearly half of our remaining matches ,to get to 50 points, something we've struggled to do since October last year so we are not out of the woods just yet . I agree Major. The next four games will really show where we are - Villa, Burton, Norwich, Wigan. If we take a minimum of 7 points from these games, we will have taken a minimum of 13 points from our last 10 games which is mid-table form and not bad considering the run of tough games we've just had. I appreciate it's an "if" because our previous 10 game form is 6 points. But I think we can take at least 7 points from these next four games, and that would show a corner turned, by doubling our points from 6 points to 13 over a 10 game period. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ska Junkie Posted February 28, 2017 Report Share Posted February 28, 2017 I don't think we've turned any corner or even peeked around it TBH. Saturday was one of those occasional decent 45 /60 minutes that City put in now and again. While I would be delighted to see a win tonight, or even a point, I fear the performance may return to the abject garbage we have seen far too often this season. In all honesty, I would love to be proved wrong. Johnson out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BRISTOL86 Posted February 28, 2017 Report Share Posted February 28, 2017 35 minutes ago, Mr Popodopolous said: Far from convinced 50 points will be needed to stay up this year, usually it is a guarantee but you don't often need that many. As little as 4 more wins might do it. Especially if we avoid hammerings. Yep, the number for the last ten years is much closer to 40. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meh Posted February 28, 2017 Report Share Posted February 28, 2017 I think it is as simple as the team plays without fear away with verocious support but due to the ever-growing nasty atmosphere at the Gate - go in to their shells. I fully expect another great performance tonight in front of good fans followed by rubbish on Saturday in front of some <insert your word here> !! (cue: the we are the "bread and butter", we pay so can do what we want, the players are paid a fortune to perform type responses - probably from the same d!ck5 getting on the players backs from the first misplaced pass) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeAman08 Posted February 28, 2017 Report Share Posted February 28, 2017 I still think the magic number is around 43. Form since December means we will be cutting it close. I don't know if we've turned a corner but I'd hope we could secure 11 points especially considering we play the two just under us. Granted they're away but if we don't lose them, we should be ok. We'll need 3 wins in other games which we should be able to do. It's hard for me to see us winless the rest of the year. 3 wins and 2 draws in 13 matches is still dreadful form and if we can't do that we deserve to go down Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeAman08 Posted February 28, 2017 Report Share Posted February 28, 2017 2 minutes ago, Neo said: I think it is as simple as the team plays without fear away with verocious support but due to the ever-growing nasty atmosphere at the Gate - go in to their shells. I fully expect another great performance tonight in front of good fans followed by rubbish on Saturday in front of some <insert your word here> !! (cue: the we are the "bread and butter", we pay so can do what we want, the players are paid a fortune to perform type responses - probably from the same d!ck5 getting on the players backs from the first misplaced pass) I agree at the moment they are probably more comfortable away. Though if they play as hard at home as they did at Newcastle, regardless of result, I'd be behind them. Don't mind quality being poor but should be working harder than the other side. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ska Junkie Posted February 28, 2017 Report Share Posted February 28, 2017 26 minutes ago, Neo said: I think it is as simple as the team plays without fear away with verocious support but due to the ever-growing nasty atmosphere at the Gate - go in to their shells. I fully expect another great performance tonight in front of good fans followed by rubbish on Saturday in front of some <insert your word here> !! (cue: the we are the "bread and butter", we pay so can do what we want, the players are paid a fortune to perform type responses - probably from the same d!ck5 getting on the players backs from the first misplaced pass) Not wishing to cause a row Neo but why do you think those <insert your word heres> have become so disillusioned? Could it be the dreadful football on display? Lack of heart by SOME players? Ineptitude by our head coach? I agree it's probably easier to play away from the Gate ATM by the way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wellspokenman Posted February 28, 2017 Report Share Posted February 28, 2017 Currently working in Birmingham ahead of the game tonight. Only benefit is being surrounded by Villa fans who are more depressed than us... Mind you - they do like "Mr shoot on site" Kodjia... Draw beckons.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin phantom Posted February 28, 2017 Admin Report Share Posted February 28, 2017 4 minutes ago, Wellspokenman said: Currently working in Birmingham ahead of the game tonight. Only benefit is being surrounded by Villa fans who are more depressed than us... Mind you - they do like "Mr shoot on site" Kodjia... Draw beckons.... I was up there yesterday (bad planning) they certainly weren't very confident of facing us Get in front and expect the crowd to turn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wellspokenman Posted February 28, 2017 Report Share Posted February 28, 2017 4 minutes ago, phantom said: I was up there yesterday (bad planning) they certainly weren't very confident of facing us Get in front and expect the crowd to turn Nope, not the most optimistic bunch...and nothing whines more than a miserable Brummie.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Dawe Posted February 28, 2017 Report Share Posted February 28, 2017 1 hour ago, Neo said: I think it is as simple as the team plays without fear away with verocious support but due to the ever-growing nasty atmosphere at the Gate - go in to their shells. I fully expect another great performance tonight in front of good fans followed by rubbish on Saturday in front of some <insert your word here> !! (cue: the we are the "bread and butter", we pay so can do what we want, the players are paid a fortune to perform type responses - probably from the same d!ck5 getting on the players backs from the first misplaced pass) The "ever growing nasty atmosphere" was non-existant months ago, when this poor run began. This team "went into their shells" long, long before the anti-LJ chants, chants which began second half v Rotherham and then were heard again last week. So you and SL are going to need a different excuse to explain a club record run of consecutive league defeats, the loss at home to Brighton (when the atmosphere was excellent at kick off), and even the game before that when we performed so poorly v Blackburn. We performed well at home to Sheffield Wednesday recently, too, then sh1te four days later v Rotherham. The painful truth that some cannot face and want to avoid, is that we have not performed well all season - with a few exceptions, such as Derby away - even when picking up points in the autumn, as @Olé's excellent observations have highlighted, and once again, for what SL/we have put in, we are getting a very poor return out. The "it's the crowd's fault" is apt for our times, and worthy of Donald Trump and his cronies PS. We have won 7 at home in front of our "nasty" and "negative" crowd, and 2 away. Funny that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeh Posted February 28, 2017 Report Share Posted February 28, 2017 No a corner hasn't been turned, we'won 1 in the last 15 odd and can't hold on to a lead Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CotswoldRed Posted February 28, 2017 Report Share Posted February 28, 2017 1 hour ago, Neo said: I think it is as simple as the team plays without fear away with verocious support but due to the ever-growing nasty atmosphere at the Gate - go in to their shells. I fully expect another great performance tonight in front of good fans followed by rubbish on Saturday in front of some <insert your word here> !! (cue: the we are the "bread and butter", we pay so can do what we want, the players are paid a fortune to perform type responses - probably from the same d!ck5 getting on the players backs from the first misplaced pass) Ever growing nasty atmosphere? These little poppets should be glad they don't play for a poor Newcastle team. They've had it easy from us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fishy Posted February 28, 2017 Report Share Posted February 28, 2017 2 hours ago, Major Isewater said: Well , a top performance at Newcastle has made many people talk of the corner being turned and LJ is ' In ' once again. I don't want to diminish that effort , it took balls to go there and get something in front of fifty thousand Geordies and a team at the top of the League but now we must see the same levels of performance every week . As someone posted on here it's a bit like the teams who up their game in the cup when playing Man Utd . The standards have been set and we must not drop off because every match between now and the end of the season is a ' cup final ' . We need to win nearly half of our remaining matches ,to get to 50 points, something we've struggled to do since October last year so we are not out of the woods just yet . I don't know of anyone that thinks a corner has been turned. I don't think there has even been a check in the mirror or an indicator switch yet, let alone the actual manoeuvre. There are far too many variables to consider before anyone can think this was anything other than a welcome lucky break. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobBobSuperBob Posted February 28, 2017 Report Share Posted February 28, 2017 1 hour ago, Doozerchris said: I've been waiting since October..! With the current coach in place we WILL be relegated imo. I'm hoping , praying , Doozer that the players will grab the situation by the scruff of the neck and eek out enough points what worries me is I'm not convinced that there are enough in number and in quality to form a core and do so - The very make up of the squad is likely to mean it's not one big happy group Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 28, 2017 Report Share Posted February 28, 2017 1 hour ago, Bullbag said: No corner turned. Shipping goals like no tomorrow. Having won one in 15 or 16 is it? And now we need to win 4 or 5 out of 13? Really hope we do but I just can't see it. Johnson out. Sad but true, the battle for safety will go on whatever happens tonight, we all hope for 4/6 pts from the next 2 games but we will see; Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobBobSuperBob Posted February 28, 2017 Report Share Posted February 28, 2017 6 minutes ago, fishy said: I don't know of anyone that thinks a corner has been turned. I don't think there has even been a check in the mirror or an indicator switch yet, let alone the actual manoeuvre. There are far too many variables to consider before anyone can think this was anything other than a welcome lucky break. To be fair I don't think we can describe it as a lucky break All have said just how much the players put into it - they got a reward in a point at least What @Major Isewater is rightly saying is - they've set the standard , certainly in terms of effort, running , commitment - they must sustain this No excuses , no hiding place now in those respects at least Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fishy Posted February 28, 2017 Report Share Posted February 28, 2017 Yes, the players put in the commitment. But once LJ has consulted the sorting hat to determine the starting 11 and formation for tonight it could be a very different set up. Hence variables. If commitment was all that was required to turn the corner I'd like to think that the players might have switched onto that about 2 months ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 28, 2017 Report Share Posted February 28, 2017 1 hour ago, Neo said: I think it is as simple as the team plays without fear away with verocious support but due to the ever-growing nasty atmosphere at the Gate - go in to their shells. I fully expect another great performance tonight in front of good fans followed by rubbish on Saturday in front of some <insert your word here> !! (cue: the we are the "bread and butter", we pay so can do what we want, the players are paid a fortune to perform type responses - probably from the same d!ck5 getting on the players backs from the first misplaced pass) Of course you are right Steve/Neo its the fans fault, did you go to Cardiff/Wembley ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shelts Posted February 28, 2017 Report Share Posted February 28, 2017 You could well be onto something major, not sure what yet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ska Junkie Posted February 28, 2017 Report Share Posted February 28, 2017 10 minutes ago, BobBobSuperBob said: To be fair I don't think we can describe it as a lucky break All have said just how much the players put into it - they got a reward in a point at least What @Major Isewater is rightly saying is - they've set the standard , certainly in terms of effort, running , commitment - they must sustain this No excuses , no hiding place now in those respects at least As usual Bob, I find myself agreeing with you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobBobSuperBob Posted February 28, 2017 Report Share Posted February 28, 2017 28 minutes ago, 8menhadadream said: As usual Bob, I find myself agreeing with you. Thanks ! You must be the one !! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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