Rascal Posted February 28, 2017 Report Share Posted February 28, 2017 City fans laughed at Barnsley fans in summer when they said Conor Hourihane is better than him. Hahahahaha same with Flint and Mawson. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RaspberryRed Posted February 28, 2017 Report Share Posted February 28, 2017 Seems he loves the thrill of the chase but not the relationship Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major Isewater Posted February 28, 2017 Author Report Share Posted February 28, 2017 1 minute ago, Rascal said: City fans laughed at Barnsley fans in summer when they said Conor Hourihane is better than him. Hahahahaha same with Flint and Mawson. That would be Conor Hourihane with zero assists and zero goals at the top team in the League that you're talking about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Thompson Posted February 28, 2017 Report Share Posted February 28, 2017 When we had the three managers Jackie was dropped. He went to the Board and said he would 'get them a goal' Flair players always get dropped when you leak goals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rascal Posted February 28, 2017 Report Share Posted February 28, 2017 10 minutes ago, Major Isewater said: That would be Conor Hourihane with zero assists and zero goals at the top team in the League that you're talking about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marina's Rolls Royce Posted February 28, 2017 Report Share Posted February 28, 2017 34 minutes ago, Robbored said: You tell us what you think Tomlin's position is? Central midfield? Hmmmm. Does he tackle enough and get stuck in? Top of a diamond? Maybe, but him there leaves the midfield too open. Wide left of midfield? Hmmm...wasted out there and doesn't track back enough.... I await your reply with interest. I'm sure others do as well. Really? In which case you should all get out a bit more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCFC J Posted February 28, 2017 Report Share Posted February 28, 2017 22 minutes ago, Rascal said: City fans laughed at Barnsley fans in summer when they said Conor Hourihane is better than him. Hahahahaha same with Flint and Mawson. You're comparing a proper central midfielder with an advanced midfielder that's a complete luxury. Tomlin is much more talented and on his day a better player, Hourihane was consistently good for you this season though, much like Tomlin was for us. Difference is, we managed to attract Tomlin here permanently, whereas you lost Hourihane to a divisional rival for pennies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbored Posted February 28, 2017 Report Share Posted February 28, 2017 1 minute ago, Marina's Rolls Royce said: Really? In which case you should all get out a bit more. You critise the manager for not playing Tomlin in his "best position" yet offer no explanation as to what that best position is. I happy to admit that I don't know what position he plays best........ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rascal Posted February 28, 2017 Report Share Posted February 28, 2017 1 minute ago, 8MenWith1Dream said: You're comparing a proper central midfielder with an advanced midfielder that's a complete luxury. Tomlin is much more talented and on his day a better player, Hourihane was consistently good for you this season though, much like Tomlin was for us. Difference is, we managed to attract Tomlin here permanently, whereas you lost Hourihane to a divisional rival for pennies. Hourihane is a all round midfielder, we'd be bottom of the league playing 442 with a player like you say he his, He was the definition of a box to box midfielder for us, much better then fat boy in every department, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Son of Fred Posted February 28, 2017 Report Share Posted February 28, 2017 31 minutes ago, RaspberryRed said: Seems he loves the thrill of the chase but not the relationship The journey is a good slice of the pleasure.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shelts Posted February 28, 2017 Report Share Posted February 28, 2017 1 hour ago, harrys said: To be honest he's to good for us, we have too many players not up to it at this level and are just not on his wavelength :laugh:. Good one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spoons Posted February 28, 2017 Report Share Posted February 28, 2017 1 hour ago, Midred said: Otib's insistence on buying him? We only saw him play last season when we were on a good run, never saw him in the autumn (2015) when we were struggling... (Might have made the decision easier?) To be fair he was one of the main reasons for that good run at the end of the season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Midred Posted February 28, 2017 Report Share Posted February 28, 2017 4 minutes ago, Spoons said: To be fair he was one of the main reasons for that good run at the end of the season. I understand that but in that good run we didn't experience the problems that other clubs have had with him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red-Robbo Posted February 28, 2017 Report Share Posted February 28, 2017 28 minutes ago, Rascal said: Hourihane is a all round midfielder, we'd be bottom of the league playing 442 with a player like you say he his, He was the definition of a box to box midfielder for us, much better then fat boy in every department, You are utterly clueless. Now fek off and go and molest your whippets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobBobSuperBob Posted February 28, 2017 Report Share Posted February 28, 2017 9 minutes ago, Midred said: I understand that but in that good run we didn't experience the problems that other clubs have had with him. But that's Tomlin for you in a nutshell Happy and being accommodated and ego polished he can be real quality - a game changer Not happy etc etc - A complete passenger From what I've seen over his career , whatever LT you are getting right now , don't take that as any indication of what he will be like in 3 / 6 / 12 months time Thats what he is and has always been - Put him in a top two / three side and where he has to turn it on to get a place he'd be far more consistent Probably too busy with his clothing brand at moment !! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobBobSuperBob Posted February 28, 2017 Report Share Posted February 28, 2017 1 hour ago, Rascal said: City fans laughed at Barnsley fans in summer when they said Conor Hourihane is better than him. Hahahahaha same with Flint and Mawson. Simple question ? Why are you coming on here behaving like amoeba Would you be on here if our league positions were reversed ? Nah , didn't think so Wind yer neck in or do one as far as I'm concerned Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NOTBLUE Posted February 28, 2017 Report Share Posted February 28, 2017 2 minutes ago, BobBobSuperBob said: But that's Tomlin for you in a nutshell Happy and being accommodated and ego polished he can be real quality - a game changer Not happy etc etc - A complete passenger From what I've seen over his career , whatever LT you are getting right now , don't take that as any indication of what he will be like in 3 / 6 / 12 months time Thats what he is and has always been - Put him in a top two / three side and where he has to turn it on to get a place he'd be far more consistent Probably too busy with his clothing brand at moment !! Is he doing a slim fit version of his clothing ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Top Robin Posted February 28, 2017 Report Share Posted February 28, 2017 you need to be a better team than we are to accommodate a player like Tomlin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spike Posted February 28, 2017 Report Share Posted February 28, 2017 3 hours ago, Major Isewater said: The clamour to get him here , the memories of his contribution to our safety last season are all hazy memories as the guy can't even get in the first team on a regular basis. 1 How many can... I mean honestly what's LJ's starting 11.... With regards to Lee Tomlin, second highest goalscorer at the club, most assists and of his 23 shots this season only one has been off target. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dullmoan Tone Posted February 28, 2017 Report Share Posted February 28, 2017 2 hours ago, Robbored said: You tell us what you think Tomlin's position is? Central midfield? Hmmmm. Does he tackle enough and get stuck in? Top of a diamond? Maybe, but him there leaves the midfield too open. Wide left of midfield? Hmmm...wasted out there and doesn't track back enough.... I await your reply with interest. I'm sure others do as well. Tomlin was not bought for his tackling skills so this is irrelevant, by playing him at the top requires the other more defensive and certainly less creative midfielders to provide cover (not Tomlin's fault). This constant knocking of one of the division's most talented players is beyond me, I don't want a team of workaholic team players - we want entertainment and flair and yes to win games. Most managers would build a pattern of play around their best player - Messi doesn't tackle or track back and yes it is a relevant comparison because in his own way he is as talented (compared to the rest of OUR team only). I know it makes for idle chatter to constantly blame him for not scoring 6 and saving a penalty while we await kick-off but surely you would want someone with the vision to open up play and create goals from attacking midfield? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kodjias Wrist Posted February 28, 2017 Report Share Posted February 28, 2017 Hes a luxury player IMO like JET in league one, great ability but work rate is not good enough for a team like us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AppyDAZE Posted February 28, 2017 Report Share Posted February 28, 2017 1 hour ago, Top Robin said: you need to be a better team than we are to accommodate a player like Tomlin Like Bournemouth were? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted February 28, 2017 Report Share Posted February 28, 2017 18 minutes ago, Dullmoan Tone said: Tomlin was not bought for his tackling skills so this is irrelevant, by playing him at the top requires the other more defensive and certainly less creative midfielders to provide cover (not Tomlin's fault). This constant knocking of one of the division's most talented players is beyond me, I don't want a team of workaholic team players - we want entertainment and flair and yes to win games. Most managers would build a pattern of play around their best player - Messi doesn't tackle or track back and yes it is a relevant comparison because in his own way he is as talented (compared to the rest of OUR team only). I know it makes for idle chatter to constantly blame him for not scoring 6 and saving a penalty while we await kick-off but surely you would want someone with the vision to open up play and create goals from attacking midfield? Except Messi DOES put in defensive work. Just higher up the pitch- his defensive work in general is underrated and overlooked. Another thing to add is that in general, Barcelona see so much of the ball, so much of the play- that the defensive side, let alone of the forwards isn't always put under that much pressure, strain. In a higher riding side, Tomlin would be a great asset- he could perhaps pull some things out of the bag in our current situation, but I wonder about his lack of defensive work in a relegation battling side. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dullmoan Tone Posted February 28, 2017 Report Share Posted February 28, 2017 7 minutes ago, Mr Popodopolous said: Except Messi DOES put in defensive work. Just higher up the pitch- his defensive work in general is underrated and overlooked. In a higher riding side, Tomlin would be a great asset- he could perhaps pull some things out of the bag in our current situation, but I wonder about his lack of defensive work in a relegation battling side. Not sure how reliable this website is but I'll use it for both players - Messi averages 0.7 tackles a game and 0.2 interceptions. Tomlin is 0.5 for both. Now considering I was deliberately comparing Tomlin against the best attacker in the world - I think your argument falls apart (a little). I probably should have chosen a Championship player but the principle is the same his outstanding ability is at the top of the pitch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
screech Posted February 28, 2017 Report Share Posted February 28, 2017 Hasn't helped that we have had most of our play in our own half with no outlet ball. We play so deep in games that we resort to lumping it because we run out of options. When he was playing well at the start of the season we pressed teams further up the pitch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simon uk Posted February 28, 2017 Report Share Posted February 28, 2017 Tomlin might be a talented footballer, but his condition is an embarassment.he is earning a fortune yet cant be trusted to start a game. Im not happy with lj, but his stance regarding tomlin isnt the reason why. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marina's Rolls Royce Posted February 28, 2017 Report Share Posted February 28, 2017 3 hours ago, Robbored said: You critise the manager for not playing Tomlin in his "best position" yet offer no explanation as to what that best position is. I happy to admit that I don't know what position he plays best........ OMG this post is manner from Heaven, Robbored! Since when was I criticising the Manager in my original post? I was highlighting the irony about everything that goes wrong including Lee Tomlin is usually blamed on LJ, SL & MA- all of whom , I think you'll find, I've been non critical to the point of happy clapping. RR- you've been WHOOSHED by your own petard. (I'm hoping this won't be the only result tonight) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbored Posted February 28, 2017 Report Share Posted February 28, 2017 13 minutes ago, Marina's Rolls Royce said: Since when was I criticising the Manager in my original post? I was highlighting the irony about everything that goes wrong including Lee Tomlin is usually blamed on LJ, SL & MA- all of whom , I think you'll find, I've been non critical to the point of happy clapping. RR- you've been WHOOSHED by your own petard. You wrote "a certain person" and to me that's LJ as he selects the team ( unless I'm mistaken of course.) Anyway back to the question that you've avoided answering - where should Tomlin play? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reddoh Posted February 28, 2017 Report Share Posted February 28, 2017 4 hours ago, Mad Cyril said: For all the many players with 'great engines', a 'good eye for a short pass' and ability to 'do the simple stuff' ....it's the players that can do something magic I want to pay to watch. I would rather turn up to watch a Tomlin, a JET, a Jackie, or a Trundle to deliver just a moment of magic over a team full of hard working Carlton bloody Palmers..... in all my years watching not once did I call him Carlton bloody Palmer, thought his middle name started with an F and ended with a g and I think we had a foreign manager back then because I sure his name stated with a C and ended with a t but it wasn't Curt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nomad Posted February 28, 2017 Report Share Posted February 28, 2017 18 minutes ago, Robbored said: You wrote "a certain person" and to me that's LJ as he selects the team ( unless I'm mistaken of course.) Anyway back to the question that you've avoided answering - where should Tomlin play? Tomlin should play in the park with his mates. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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