Between heaven and hell Posted May 8, 2017 Share Posted May 8, 2017 We saw yesterday just how much money can be generated by putting bums on seats at a reasonable price. The food and drink outlets must have taken a small fortune with that amount of people in the ground. A friend came for the first time and we were discussing today how much money was spent by people when they were in or around the ground, between the three of us we spent £32 and I expect s lot of people on here spent an awful lot more than us. Would be interesting to know just how much money was generated from that one match alone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Negan Posted May 8, 2017 Share Posted May 8, 2017 Hopefully enough to buy Abraham. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spoons Posted May 8, 2017 Share Posted May 8, 2017 Was thinking the same. Full house, everybody drinking( either alcohol or hot drinks), food and even shop was packed with special offers . I'm one of the converted, always used to drink in ship and castle and rising sun. But since the concourse in dolman has nice cider at the same price with sky TV and a toilet close by there's no competition . Luckily my mates and family do the same so it's the same atmosphere as being in pub! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meh Posted May 8, 2017 Share Posted May 8, 2017 For every person buying 2 or 3 pints and a pie etc there is people who bring their own drinks etc or go without. People with lots of kids are liable to spend a lot less average. I think about £7 per person would be a decent average giving about £180k less about - what 50% in salaries and goods for the people directly involved - presume tickets cover all the other overheads involved. So £90k profit sound too high or too low purely on selling related outlets ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bristolcitysweden Posted May 8, 2017 Share Posted May 8, 2017 3 minutes ago, JonDolman said: Great for the odd game, but can't see them ever making tickets that cheap regularly. On a regular basis would be possible, say once a month, given that season ticket holders get priority to buy tickets even cheaper Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bristol Rob Posted May 8, 2017 Share Posted May 8, 2017 I'm sure @Mkelly could give a rough idea as to how many pints were sold. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meh Posted May 8, 2017 Share Posted May 8, 2017 15 minutes ago, bristolcitysweden said: On a regular basis would be possible, say once a month, given that season ticket holders get priority to buy tickets even cheaper Yes but they already got them or am I missing something? If they did this offer once a month then I would expect my season ticket price to come down as that is reducing my saving. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spoons Posted May 8, 2017 Share Posted May 8, 2017 Also wondering if the new stadium and facilites has had a effect on the local pubs?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bristolcitysweden Posted May 8, 2017 Share Posted May 8, 2017 4 minutes ago, Neo said: Yes but they already got them or am I missing something? If they did this offer once a month then I would expect my season ticket price to come down as that is reducing my saving. An extra ticket (elsewhere) for family/friends close to for free. Or two extra tickets so they can sit together. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Between heaven and hell Posted May 8, 2017 Author Share Posted May 8, 2017 2 minutes ago, Spoons said: Also wondering if the new stadium and facilites has had a effect on the local pubs?? Quite possibly but they have the extra income from the rugby boys as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vincent Vega Posted May 8, 2017 Share Posted May 8, 2017 2 minutes ago, Spoons said: Also wondering if the new stadium and facilites has had a effect on the local pubs?? It doesn't seem to have had an effect on The Rising Sun from what I see still heaving on match days, also people are creatures of habit on match days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Between heaven and hell Posted May 8, 2017 Author Share Posted May 8, 2017 1 minute ago, bristolcitysweden said: An extra ticket (elsewhere) for family/friends close to for free That does sound a good idea to me, more opportunity's for season ticket holders to bring friends along 3 or 4 times a season can only help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wendyredredrobin Posted May 8, 2017 Share Posted May 8, 2017 36 quid and we wont put too many bums on seats, 15 quid and we pack the ground. Must be an oprimum price in between, say £25. Depends a lot on how well we are doing and ST prices would need adjusting. 2 of us currently have to pay 70 to 80 quid to watch a game so dont go nearly as often as we would like to and its an awful lot to watch 2nd tier football. Also, should lower thw price for the front 3 or 4 rows as you cant really see much from there. When I started going to the gate it was 5 bob for adults and half a crown for kids (thats 25p and 12 1/2p in feet and inches). Im sure general inflation hasnt been that bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KeepUpLino Posted May 8, 2017 Share Posted May 8, 2017 59 minutes ago, Neo said: For every person buying 2 or 3 pints and a pie etc there is people who bring their own drinks etc or go without. People with lots of kids are liable to spend a lot less average. I think about £7 per person would be a decent average giving about £180k less about - what 50% in salaries and goods for the people directly involved - presume tickets cover all the other overheads involved. So £90k profit sound too high or too low purely on selling related outlets ? People with kids spend less... Ha, are you sure about that?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChippenhamRed Posted May 8, 2017 Share Posted May 8, 2017 Interesting thread. In terms of pure revenue generation I guess the club has to find the optimum between a higher ticket price and a smaller crowd v a cheaper ticket and a bigger crowd spending more in the ground. I'm not sure £41 standard price in the Lansdown is the answer, but neither I suspect is £15 every game. I wonder how many fewer would have bought at £20, then £25, etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spoons Posted May 8, 2017 Share Posted May 8, 2017 £20 is plenty!! Think that would be a good balance for club and fans? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bristolcitysweden Posted May 8, 2017 Share Posted May 8, 2017 30 minutes ago, Spoons said: Also wondering if the new stadium and facilites has had a effect on the local pubs?? Bigger crowds should be equal to more people in local pubs as people avoid plastic stadiums as long as they can Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashtonboy Posted May 8, 2017 Share Posted May 8, 2017 I know yesterday was exceptional due to the opposition and the possible problems, but I should imagine there was very little profit after the police bill was paid? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bristolcitysweden Posted May 8, 2017 Share Posted May 8, 2017 If once a month ticket price is £15 and season ticket holders get priority to two tickets for family/friends to the same price (two tickets for £15) I can't see a loser Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spoons Posted May 8, 2017 Share Posted May 8, 2017 3 minutes ago, bristolcitysweden said: Bigger crowds should be equal to more people in local pubs as people avoid plastic stadiums as long as they can Ashton gate is far from plastic! Everything on Sunday was premier league except from the performance! Club couldn't have done more on Sunday to make fans happy. Plastic it is not! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bristolcitysweden Posted May 8, 2017 Share Posted May 8, 2017 Just now, Spoons said: Ashton gate is far from plastic! Everything on Sunday was premier league except from the performance! Club couldn't have done more on Sunday to make fans happy. Plastic it is not! Might just be me but I prefer the local and a well pulled real ale Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spoons Posted May 8, 2017 Share Posted May 8, 2017 3 minutes ago, Ashtonboy said: I know yesterday was exceptional due to the opposition and the possible problems, but I should imagine there was very little profit after the police bill was paid? You only pay for police who step foot inside the stadium. But yes yesterday's would have been higher than normal? But then the attendance was also higher than normal. Also many like myself got to the ground extra early to avoid traffic chaos and ended up spending more than usual. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest redandy1 Posted May 8, 2017 Share Posted May 8, 2017 I expect the bill for the police would be pretty high though. But certainly all outlets were really busy And there was a great buzz about the place. At least until kick off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Between heaven and hell Posted May 8, 2017 Author Share Posted May 8, 2017 13 minutes ago, bristolcitysweden said: Bigger crowds should be equal to more people in local pubs as people avoid plastic stadiums as long as they can Didn't seem that way to me yesterday Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Natchfever Posted May 8, 2017 Share Posted May 8, 2017 2 minutes ago, Spoons said: Ashton gate is far from plastic! Everything on Sunday was premier league except from the performance! Club couldn't have done more on Sunday to make fans happy. Plastic it is not! Premier league is pretty plastic and compared to the Lions Miners Masonic Colliers AG is definitely not comparable. However lots of people prefer the AG experience and fair play to them. I prefer supporting local non billionaire businessmen and I daresay the club is content whichever way you swing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChippenhamRed Posted May 8, 2017 Share Posted May 8, 2017 16 minutes ago, Spoons said: £20 is plenty!! Think that would be a good balance for club and fans? The counter argument against this is that the Newcastle and Villa games sold out at full price. Whilst I think those prices are too much, it's difficult to argue with the economics when that happens. Perhaps the answer is to make a bigger distinction in price between the most and least attractive fixtures. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meh Posted May 8, 2017 Share Posted May 8, 2017 24 minutes ago, 'keepuplino' said: People with kids spend less... Ha, are you sure about that?! In general. For every dad who buys a coke and a large bag of crisps for a kid or two there are those who bring a bottle of water and crisps, sandwich whatever and spend nothing at the ground in the kids. Put it this way - there is no way an average of £7 per child is being spent. And whilst some adults have no pints, some will have 4 and adults will bring the AVERAGE price up more than kids. So back to your question - yes - I am very sure !! How else would you explain more alcohol outlets than snack outlets ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bristolcitysweden Posted May 8, 2017 Share Posted May 8, 2017 The Wurzels did their bit I guess Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashtonboy Posted May 8, 2017 Share Posted May 8, 2017 4 minutes ago, Spoons said: You only pay for police who step foot inside the stadium. But yes yesterday's would have been higher than normal? But then the attendance was also higher than normal. Also many like myself got to the ground extra early to avoid traffic chaos and ended up spending more than usual. At the end of the game there were hundreds of police in the Ground! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KeepUpLino Posted May 8, 2017 Share Posted May 8, 2017 Just now, Neo said: In general. For every dad who buys a coke and a large bag of crisps flr a kid or two there are those who bring a bottle of water and crisps, sandwich whateverans spend nothing. Put it this way - there is no way an average of £7 per child is being spent. And whilst some adults have no pints, some will have 4 and adults will bring the AVERAGE price up more than kids. So back to your question - yes - I am very sure !! My kids cost me a god dam fortune... Their 9 and 13 both have huge appetites! Oh and last time I bloody looked a coke is almost as expensive as a beer!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Between heaven and hell Posted May 8, 2017 Author Share Posted May 8, 2017 Just now, Neo said: In general. For every dad who buys a coke and a large bag of crisps flr a kid or two there are those who bring a bottle of water and crisps, sandwich whateverans spend nothing. Put it this way - there is no way an average of £7 per child is being spent. And whilst some adults have no pints, some will have 4 and adults will bring the AVERAGE price up more than kids. So back to your question - yes - I am very sure !! Don't forget we are talking about all outlets not just food and drink so you can include programmes and the shop in the argument. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spoons Posted May 8, 2017 Share Posted May 8, 2017 Just now, ChippenhamRed said: The counter argument against this is that the Newcastle and Villa games sold out at full price. Whilst I think those prices are too much, it's difficult to argue with the economics when that happens. Perhaps the answer is to make a bigger distinction in price between the most and least attractive fixtures. To be fair the Newcastle and villa games were capped at 22,500 due to safety reasons etc. So not sure they would have sold out? Probaly would have, but need to look at the 10 other games against the mid- table teams and relegation threatened teams that people don't want to pay £35 plus a ticket. Agreed a balance is needed but was nice to see the ground full on Sunday ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Between heaven and hell Posted May 8, 2017 Author Share Posted May 8, 2017 2 minutes ago, Ashtonboy said: At the end of the game there were hundreds of police in the Ground! You would expect less police in the stadium next year with away fans having their own stadium. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bristolcitysweden Posted May 8, 2017 Share Posted May 8, 2017 With so many genuine pubs closing down it would be great if we can have one of those pubs in each stand. A quite place were you can come a couple of hours before the game not to be treated as an animal heading for slaughter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bristol Rob Posted May 8, 2017 Share Posted May 8, 2017 1 minute ago, bristolcitysweden said: With so many genuine pubs closing down it would be great if we can have one of those pubs in each stand. A quite place were you can come a couple of hours before the game not to be treated as an animal heading for slaughter Not sure where you'd find the room, as nice an idea as it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ciderbeans Posted May 8, 2017 Share Posted May 8, 2017 £15 for the adult ticket in the west stand was bloody good. Would be happy if they did a continual twenty is plenty for the whole season. Bound to get more attendance Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bristolcitysweden Posted May 8, 2017 Share Posted May 8, 2017 Just now, Bristol Rob said: Not sure where you'd find the room, as nice an idea as it is. Shift the toilets outside the ground. Rent a toilet every second week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChippenhamRed Posted May 8, 2017 Share Posted May 8, 2017 10 minutes ago, Between heaven and hell said: You would expect less police in the stadium next year with away fans having their own stadium. What will they be watching? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bristolcitysweden Posted May 8, 2017 Share Posted May 8, 2017 Shift the toilets out and build a hughe icehotel. Problem is that people are stupid and can not even spot the wheel http://www.icehotel.com/en-gb/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Between heaven and hell Posted May 8, 2017 Author Share Posted May 8, 2017 10 minutes ago, ChippenhamRed said: What will they be watching? Ha ha spot the mistake, at least it would stop any violence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Portland Bill Posted May 8, 2017 Share Posted May 8, 2017 1 hour ago, Spoons said: Ashton gate is far from plastic! Everything on Sunday was premier league except from the performance! Club couldn't have done more on Sunday to make fans happy. Plastic it is not! The premier league 'is' plastic though! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spoons Posted May 8, 2017 Share Posted May 8, 2017 Just now, Portland Bill said: The premier league 'is' plastic though! Not so sure about that. Ask Bournemouth fans if it's plastic or the Man utd fans who thought the glaziers were the end of their club. The premier league is far from perfect like the lower leagues. But plastic.. No not from me, I'm sure us city fans could give it a go at waking it up a bit ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CotswoldRed Posted May 8, 2017 Share Posted May 8, 2017 1 hour ago, 'keepuplino' said: My kids cost me a god dam fortune... Their 9 and 13 both have huge appetites! Oh and last time I bloody looked a coke is almost as expensive as a beer!! Loads of profit. No duty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
East End Old Boy Posted May 8, 2017 Share Posted May 8, 2017 1 hour ago, bristolcitysweden said: Might just be me but I prefer the local and a well pulled real ale The Butcombe bar, with beer dispensed straight from the barrel, was most acceptable! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Blues Fan Posted May 8, 2017 Share Posted May 8, 2017 Just like to say thanks for the hospitality yesterday. Lovely weather, two great sets of fans mixing well, old bill ok too. Being a veteran of the more 'funkier' type of fixture between the two clubs it was nice to see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spoons Posted May 8, 2017 Share Posted May 8, 2017 Just now, East End Old Boy said: The Butcombe bar, with beer dispensed straight from the barrel, was most acceptable! Agree with this. I also live 4 miles from myrtle farm sandford where the thatchers factory is( and lovely cider shop) and believe me it's a good pint at the gate. I'm a specialist in drinking cider ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lack of Action Man Posted May 8, 2017 Share Posted May 8, 2017 I noticed at half time that Oasis and sweets were running low in the South stand kiosks (I know because it was a rare occasion where I wanted Oasis and every bastard in the queue ahead of me kept buying them up!). For city the lesson to be learned here is, get the prices right - get bums on seats (particularly kids who want sugary things) and keep the dough coming in! At 35-40quid a ticket, we won't be getting 25,000 regularly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
East End Old Boy Posted May 8, 2017 Share Posted May 8, 2017 7 minutes ago, Spoons said: Agree with this. I also live 4 miles from myrtle farm sandford where the thatchers factory is( and lovely cider shop) and believe me it's a good pint at the gate. I'm a specialist in drinking cider ! Know Thatcher's shop well, been visiting for years! The season card discount has made the option of eating and drinking in the stadium more competitive and the quality is definitely better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChippenhamRed Posted May 8, 2017 Share Posted May 8, 2017 46 minutes ago, Blues Fan said: Just like to say thanks for the hospitality yesterday. Lovely weather, two great sets of fans mixing well, old bill ok too. Being a veteran of the more 'funkier' type of fixture between the two clubs it was nice to see. You're welcome! Genuine question for you with no intent to antagonise - on reflection, what did you think of your players running into the crowd like that? Fully justified or a bit rich to be celebrating narrowing escaping a failure of their own making?! I guess it's different when it's your own team in the heat of the moment, but I thought it was a bit OTT given the season you've had. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erithacus Posted May 8, 2017 Share Posted May 8, 2017 Another question in the general area of the topic - does the club gather information regarding the spending habits of SC Holders in the ground? Is there some form of compilation when we use the cards at the outlets? They must surely keep tabs on each SCH as they go through the turnstiles, after all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Blues Fan Posted May 8, 2017 Share Posted May 8, 2017 Just now, ChippenhamRed said: You're welcome! Genuine question for you with no intent to antagonise - on reflection, what did you think of your players running into the crowd like that? Fully justified or a bit rich to be celebrating narrowing escaping a failure of their own making?! I guess it's different when it's your own team in the heat of the moment, but I thought it was a bit OTT given the season you've had. The guy who did that was Craig Gardner who is supposed to be a Blues fan yet couldn't wait to leave the year we got relegated from the prem. He has been shocking since he came this year and gave the ball away all day long and wasted all our dead balls which he's been doing since he came. So yes I did think it OTT and potentially dangerous but as you say heat of the moment etc...He redeemed himself in a post match interview however by taking the opportunity to run down our neighbours and their pathetic behaviour at Blackburn. On the broader point I guess it was a mixture of sheer relief and wanting to share the fans elation. You're right most of them should take a long hard look at theirselves especially after Zola arrived as they did not perform for the useless little ****. Having been to every game this season I was chuffed to stay up but only to ram it down a certain clubs fans throats. Going down held no fear for me and wouldnt have changed my support. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stephenkibby. Posted May 8, 2017 Share Posted May 8, 2017 2 hours ago, wendyredredrobin said: 36 quid and we wont put too many bums on seats, 15 quid and we pack the ground. Must be an oprimum price in between, say £25. Depends a lot on how well we are doing and ST prices would need adjusting. 2 of us currently have to pay 70 to 80 quid to watch a game so dont go nearly as often as we would like to and its an awful lot to watch 2nd tier football. Also, should lower thw price for the front 3 or 4 rows as you cant really see much from there. When I started going to the gate it was 5 bob for adults and half a crown for kids (thats 25p and 12 1/2p in feet and inches). Im sure general inflation hasnt been that bad. The first year the Dolman was open my dad got us season tickets. Pretty sure it was 50quid someone correct me? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChippenhamRed Posted May 8, 2017 Share Posted May 8, 2017 3 hours ago, wendyredredrobin said: 36 quid and we wont put too many bums on seats, 15 quid and we pack the ground. Must be an oprimum price in between, say £25. Depends a lot on how well we are doing and ST prices would need adjusting. 2 of us currently have to pay 70 to 80 quid to watch a game so dont go nearly as often as we would like to and its an awful lot to watch 2nd tier football. Also, should lower thw price for the front 3 or 4 rows as you cant really see much from there. When I started going to the gate it was 5 bob for adults and half a crown for kids (thats 25p and 12 1/2p in feet and inches). Im sure general inflation hasnt been that bad. Wendy, I genuinely don't mean to sound rude but I've challenged you on this before and you didn't reply. As a member I pay £24 (silver) or £29 (gold) for a decent seat in the Dolman. There are other cheaper seats available elsewhere in the ground. Yes, the membership costs £20 but that pays back in 4 games - and even without it the you don't have to pay as much as you are claiming. This season I have also watched 3 games at discounted prices - Blackburn (£10), Hull (£13) and Birmingham (£15). It's simply not true to say you "have to pay £70-£80" for two people to watch a game. The £25 price you identify is near enough achievable already in some areas of the ground. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChippenhamRed Posted May 8, 2017 Share Posted May 8, 2017 23 minutes ago, Blues Fan said: The guy who did that was Craig Gardner who is supposed to be a Blues fan yet couldn't wait to leave the year we got relegated from the prem. He has been shocking since he came this year and gave the ball away all day long and wasted all our dead balls which he's been doing since he came. So yes I did think it OTT and potentially dangerous but as you say heat of the moment etc...He redeemed himself in a post match interview however by taking the opportunity to run down our neighbours and their pathetic behaviour at Blackburn. On the broader point I guess it was a mixture of sheer relief and wanting to share the fans elation. You're right most of them should take a long hard look at theirselves especially after Zola arrived as they did not perform for the useless little ****. Having been to every game this season I was chuffed to stay up but only to ram it down a certain clubs fans throats. Going down held no fear for me and wouldnt have changed my support. Great reply, cheers! Interesting that you also thought it was a bit OTT, that was my instinct. He celebrated narrowly escaping relegation like he'd just scored a last minute winner in the Champions League final! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobBobSuperBob Posted May 8, 2017 Share Posted May 8, 2017 Just now, Tiree said: JUst put your faith in S.L to appoint the right people to run the stadium, the facilitties, the bars, the entertainment and everything else. Dont panic if the price fof a pint is set wrongly for one match or the first team hit a little hiccup mid season; our owner has that magic tocuh where everything turns to gold. Thank your stars he is not associated with the gas and tell alll yer mates to stop writing ridiculous comments about him that suggest he is anything but the very best thing that ever happened to BCFC and West Country sport 'A little hiccup' Priceless Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigTone Posted May 9, 2017 Share Posted May 9, 2017 11 hours ago, bristolcitysweden said: The Wurzels did their bit I guess Yep, they would have kept the people away Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Joker Posted May 9, 2017 Share Posted May 9, 2017 9 hours ago, BobBobSuperBob said: 'A little hiccup' Priceless Yea and Titanic was rising damp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedM Posted May 9, 2017 Share Posted May 9, 2017 10 hours ago, Erithacus said: Another question in the general area of the topic - does the club gather information regarding the spending habits of SC Holders in the ground? Is there some form of compilation when we use the cards at the outlets? They must surely keep tabs on each SCH as they go through the turnstiles, after all. Don't think so or we could have some kind of loyality points reward system, eg free pie after x amount of pints or even in the shop, discounted items, eg you have bought the shirt and the training top, what about money off shorts/socks. I don't think the info is collected otherwise it would be used. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DevonGeneral Posted May 9, 2017 Share Posted May 9, 2017 12 hours ago, bristolcitysweden said: Might just be me but I prefer the local and a well pulled real ale There's some excellent real ale on offer in the concourse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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