Super Posted July 3, 2017 Report Share Posted July 3, 2017 9 hours ago, Robbored said: I tend to flick between ITV and EuroSport. I don't really have a preference. Don't get adverts on ES though do you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MichaelRobartes Posted July 3, 2017 Report Share Posted July 3, 2017 Everyone loves Sky. http://m.bbc.co.uk/sport/cycling/40478007 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbored Posted July 3, 2017 Report Share Posted July 3, 2017 48 minutes ago, Super said: Don't get adverts on ES though do you? Of course you do. That's why I flick between the two channels. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Posted July 3, 2017 Report Share Posted July 3, 2017 4 minutes ago, Robbored said: Of course you do. That's why I flick between the two channels. Should be on SKY then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbored Posted July 3, 2017 Report Share Posted July 3, 2017 13 minutes ago, Super said: Should be on SKY then. If you have Sky Sports you should have Eurosport as well. It's 410 on my Sky+ box. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Esmond Million's Bung Posted July 3, 2017 Report Share Posted July 3, 2017 Sagan is a beast, that is all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lanterne Rouge Posted July 3, 2017 Author Report Share Posted July 3, 2017 2 hours ago, Esmond Million's Bung said: Sagan is a beast, that is all. You got to love the bloke. Always great value in his interviews, always engaging with fans and nothing seems too much trouble. He`s one of the few real characters in modern cycling. Much as I admire Chris F, Quintana and the like I wouldn`t want to go for a pint with them but I reckon a raucous night would be in store with Mr.Sagan! I have to say, if Cav doesn`t win a stage I`m always rooting for PS to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 4, 2017 Report Share Posted July 4, 2017 12 hours ago, Red Right Hand said: You got to love the bloke. Always great value in his interviews, always engaging with fans and nothing seems too much trouble. He`s one of the few real characters in modern cycling. Much as I admire Chris F, Quintana and the like I wouldn`t want to go for a pint with them but I reckon a raucous night would be in store with Mr.Sagan! I have to say, if Cav doesn`t win a stage I`m always rooting for PS to. Always seems the sprinters are the ones with more personality. Living the fast life perhaps, excuse the terrible pun. Things could get interesting at sky the longer GT holds the yellow.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedM Posted July 4, 2017 Report Share Posted July 4, 2017 16 minutes ago, Tomarse said: Always seems the sprinters are the ones with more personality. Living the fast life perhaps, excuse the terrible pun. Things could get interesting at sky the longer GT holds the yellow.. I got the feeling GT isn't going to give it up easily for sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 4, 2017 Report Share Posted July 4, 2017 Wow that was a awful last 1km. Surely the result will be nulled? Hope Cav is ok, that didn't look good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lanterne Rouge Posted July 4, 2017 Author Report Share Posted July 4, 2017 Just now, Tomarse said: Wow that was a awful last 1km. Surely the result will be nulled? Hope Cav is ok, that didn't look good. Don`t look good, he got spun back into traffic and others ran into him. Wait and see I guess but hoping for the best. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MichaelRobartes Posted July 4, 2017 Report Share Posted July 4, 2017 Looks like Sagan elbowed Cav there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 4, 2017 Report Share Posted July 4, 2017 I love Sagan but that was a bit naughty.. not sure there was space for Cav to pass thou? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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MichaelRobartes Posted July 4, 2017 Report Share Posted July 4, 2017 Just now, Tomarse said: I love Sagan but that was a bit naughty.. not sure there was space for Cav to pass thou? Would have to see it again but looked like Sagan was at fault on first glance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lanterne Rouge Posted July 4, 2017 Author Report Share Posted July 4, 2017 Just now, MichaelRobartes said: Would have to see it again but looked like Sagan was at fault on first glance. A definite nudge but @Tomarse is right, there wasn`t room for Cav to get down that side really. Just hope he`s OK, I`m sure he`ll put it down to the cut and thrust of things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lanterne Rouge Posted July 4, 2017 Author Report Share Posted July 4, 2017 Saying broken shoulder - gutted for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbored Posted July 4, 2017 Report Share Posted July 4, 2017 Just now, Red Right Hand said: A definite nudge but @Tomarse is right, there wasn`t room for Cav to get down that side really. Just hope he`s OK, I`m sure he`ll put it down to the cut and thrust of things. Cav tried to get thru a gap that was too narrow and got squeezed into the barrier. No-one at fault imv Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 4, 2017 Report Share Posted July 4, 2017 I think they'll pull that race result back to the last 1km.. the whole peleton got wiped out as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MichaelRobartes Posted July 4, 2017 Report Share Posted July 4, 2017 2 minutes ago, Red Right Hand said: A definite nudge but @Tomarse is right, there wasn`t room for Cav to get down that side really. Just hope he`s OK, I`m sure he`ll put it down to the cut and thrust of things. To be fair Cav went with Demare and everyone crabbed across the road. Clearly not an elbow from Sagan, bad luck for Cav. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Esmond Million's Bung Posted July 4, 2017 Report Share Posted July 4, 2017 Just now, MichaelRobartes said: To be fair Cav went with Demare and everyone crabbed across the road. Clearly not an elbow from Sagan, bad luck for Cav. Sorry have to disagree there was nobody close enough to Sagan to cause him to close Can down and the elbow looks deliberate to me, he should be in trouble it was naughty IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Esmond Million's Bung Posted July 4, 2017 Report Share Posted July 4, 2017 12 minutes ago, Tomarse said: I love Sagan but that was a bit naughty.. not sure there was space for Cav to pass thou? There was plenty of space when Can made the move, but Sagan closed it down and then used his elbow for good measure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lanterne Rouge Posted July 4, 2017 Author Report Share Posted July 4, 2017 1 minute ago, MichaelRobartes said: To be fair Cav went with Demare and everyone crabbed across the road. Clearly not an elbow from Sagan, bad luck for Cav. Eurosport insisting it`s an elbow but I can`t see any more than a nudge myself. Sagan has said he didn`t even know Mark was there but has apologised. See what the commisaires have to say before we decide. It doesn`t sound like it is a broken shoulder now either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 4, 2017 Report Share Posted July 4, 2017 1 minute ago, Esmond Million's Bung said: There was plenty of space when Can made the move, but Sagan closed it down and then used his elbow for good measure. I think that red barrier on the advertising hoarding didn't help either. He might have just stayed up right otherwise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MichaelRobartes Posted July 4, 2017 Report Share Posted July 4, 2017 4 minutes ago, Esmond Million's Bung said: Sorry have to disagree there was nobody close enough to Sagan to cause him to close Can down and the elbow looks deliberate to me, he should be in trouble it was naughty IMO. You're more knowledgeable than me Es to be fair. I couldn't really tell what happened with Griepel and Bouhanni but it seemed to me that everyone moved across as Cav took Demare's wheel. I thought there was definitely space when he did so but it certainly disappeared very quickly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbored Posted July 4, 2017 Report Share Posted July 4, 2017 The incident will be looked at by the jury as a matter of course. Sagan could well be in deep shit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 4, 2017 Report Share Posted July 4, 2017 30 second penalty to Sagan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lanterne Rouge Posted July 4, 2017 Author Report Share Posted July 4, 2017 33 minutes ago, Tomarse said: 30 second penalty to Sagan. Got off fairly light there I think, would it have been more severe if Cav had been more badly injured I wonder? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Esmond Million's Bung Posted July 4, 2017 Report Share Posted July 4, 2017 36 minutes ago, Tomarse said: 30 second penalty to Sagan. Then he is very lucky indeed, it could and should have been more, has he been stripped of his green jersey points for a 2nd finish as well?. The way I saw was Cav got it tactically spot on and followed the right wheel, when Demare followed by Cav made their move Sagan was pretty much in the middle of the course and there was plenty of room, little by little drifted more and more over to his right closing Cav down, that's sort of OK but as Cav quite rightly asked why the elbow?. I think for whatever reason Sagan was pissed off with something or somebody and the red mist descended and the elbow certainly looks deliberate to me, I don't think he knew it was Cav but I don't think by the time it happened that he cared who it was. I love Sagan and if Cav doesn't win then Sagan is my next favourite, but he needs to man up and admit his guilt IMHO. I am also saddened by the arse kissing by the ITV4 summary team of Boardman and Miller, their explanation was IMO nonsense and is all to normal these days of upsetting of sports gravy trains by calling it as it is, sit on the fence and try to offend nobody allows the guilty to live to cheat another day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbored Posted July 4, 2017 Report Share Posted July 4, 2017 Sagan has been disqualified from the race. Just got a news alert. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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