MyBrotherErnie Posted July 22, 2017 Posted July 22, 2017 Early days I know, but is anyone else hopeful about Reid and Diedhieou as a front 2? I think the combination of Reid's pace and creativity, and Famara's finishing and strength could help us be more threatening and versatile in attack. Also it looks like they're starting to bond which is always important. Without Tammy, we're going to need more goals from all over the park, but if these two step up we could have a very positive season.
Red Skin Posted July 22, 2017 Posted July 22, 2017 I will always back Bobby as a player so I for one hope they are a sucessful partnership. Little striker, big striker always seems to work after all.
Dynamite Red Posted July 22, 2017 Posted July 22, 2017 If Bobby Reid is our answer for a Championship striker we will be playing league one football next season. Goals against Bath, Bristol Manor Farm, Exeter and some shite Spanish team proves nothing.
Phileas Fogg Posted July 22, 2017 Posted July 22, 2017 Just now, Dynamite Red said: If Bobby Reid is our answer for a Championship striker we will be playing league one football next season. Goals against Bath, Bristol Manor Farm, Exeter and some shite Spanish team proves nothing. Bit harsh I think. Better than not scoring at all. I'd never have seen him as a forward but will reserve judgement until I've actually watched him play there in competitive games.
Dynamite Red Posted July 22, 2017 Posted July 22, 2017 4 minutes ago, Phileas Fogg said: Bit harsh I think. Better than not scoring at all. I'd never have seen him as a forward but will reserve judgement until I've actually watched him play there in competitive games. It's not harsh, he has never played as as a striker, he is lightweight, looses possession easily, he has shown regularly last season he is inconsistent and wasteful in front of goal. If he is the answer then I guess the question is how quickly can we get relegated. I doubt John Terry etc.. are concerned about facing Bobby Reid.
David Brent Posted July 22, 2017 Posted July 22, 2017 Give Bobby the responsibility to play in that role. I think he'll thrive.
Phileas Fogg Posted July 22, 2017 Posted July 22, 2017 23 minutes ago, Dynamite Red said: It's not harsh, he has never played as as a striker, he is lightweight, looses possession easily, he has shown regularly last season he is inconsistent and wasteful in front of goal. If he is the answer then I guess the question is how quickly can we get relegated. I doubt John Terry etc.. are concerned about facing Bobby Reid. Let's see how he gets on. I've never rated him that highly either, but we should give him the benefit of the doubt for a bit. It doesn't really matter who the opposition is, he IS scoring goals. Can't ask much more than that.
Offside Posted July 22, 2017 Posted July 22, 2017 This is an important season for Bobby Reid. I rate him quite quite highly, but it's now time for him to nail down a place in the starting 11 by finding some consistency and being more clinical in front of goal. His movement is good and he's creative and it looks like his involvement and performances in the friendlies (albeit against weak opposition) mean he will be in the side when the season starts. Hope he does well. Let's see.
JoeAman08 Posted July 22, 2017 Posted July 22, 2017 I reckon Bobby would be quite productive as a striker setting up and scoring. Not many will agree but I'll leave it at that.
cidercity1987 Posted July 22, 2017 Posted July 22, 2017 1 hour ago, Dynamite Red said: If Bobby Reid is our answer for a Championship striker we will be playing league one football next season. Goals against Bath, Bristol Manor Farm, Exeter and some shite Spanish team proves nothing. How many have Diedhiou, Đurić, Taylor, Engvall and Wilbraham scored against the same opposition? I think, but dont know, that together its 1/7th of Reid's total. He starts v Barnsley imo and we go from there.
Robin 101 Posted July 22, 2017 Posted July 22, 2017 1 hour ago, Dynamite Red said: It's not harsh, he has never played as as a striker, he is lightweight, looses possession easily, he has shown regularly last season he is inconsistent and wasteful in front of goal. If he is the answer then I guess the question is how quickly can we get relegated. I doubt John Terry etc.. are concerned about facing Bobby Reid. Hence the "Harsh". Any chance of watching him play in a new position before deciding he cant play there?
dereks no1 Posted July 23, 2017 Posted July 23, 2017 34 minutes ago, cidercity1987 said: How many have Diedhiou, Đurić, Taylor, Engvall and Wilbraham scored against the same opposition? I think, but dont know, that together its 1/7th of Reid's total. He starts v Barnsley imo and we go from there. Đurić, Taylor and Wilbraham havent played a single minute, all injured or getting fit. Diedhiou only played 2 games. On Bobby Reid, fair play to him. He's showing good signs and as city fans we need to praise that but its true that this is against Yeovil, Manor farm and some 3rd tier Spanish team. We'll see if he can do it against Barnsley, Brentford and Birmingham. COYR
Garland-sweden Posted July 23, 2017 Posted July 23, 2017 At the moment we have two options, Reid and Engvall. Romario, Bebeto, Owen, Messi and so on. A fw can be small and good. BR have done it well in this position, he or Engvall will start 5 aug. Think Reid. Unusual thinking fr.o.m. LJ but it may work. Bobby is creative and fast thinking player, along Famara it can work.
generation1 Posted July 23, 2017 Posted July 23, 2017 as usual negative vibes invade a thread, it seems the pattern all the way on the forum. the people expressing them always say they are debate points but are nearly always the same authors. been around this club a long time and nothing has changed in the eyes of many. no matter who the manager is or the team are we seem to look for the negatives. the season is yet to start lets give it a chance and by the way if you are ready to give up if it is a poor start how can you expect different from those you will be slating.
sglosbcfc Posted July 23, 2017 Posted July 23, 2017 I have usually got a view/opinion on everything but I really can't decide how this will play out. Love the mention of John Terry, I can see Terry putting Reid into the back row of the Dolman and not breaking sweat for 90 minutes, equally I can see Reid nutmegging him before curling one into the net followed by his movement and slick passing giving the ageing Terry a torrid afternoon. Please, let it be the latter.
Davefevs Posted July 23, 2017 Posted July 23, 2017 On 12/07/2017 at 00:18, Davefevs said: Don't start many topics, so readying myself for the flames. Bobby Reid has started 3 games up front (or very advanced if not a true striker), albeit against lesser opponents and scored 3 times (1 in each). Could he come into contention with Taylor, Đurić, Tomlin etc injured? I think he gets a little lost in the no10, and his best performances were early last season in a two with O'Neil. I think he may have something as a forward (not out and out striker), is a willing runner, and can be creative. Scored 4 in 2 since I started a thread on this subject. i think there is a bit of an over-reaction. In effect we have a mini striker injury crisis. Let's just assume that Diedhiou is first choice, then if all are fit LJ probably thinks that Đurić and Taylor are his options to pair with the ex-Angers man. Both are injured. Then you've got Wilbraham (injured) and Engvall - who unless he suddenly gets more minutes against Cheltenham and FC Twente, is not gonna start v Barnsley. So what does LJ do? He's tried Reid, a player with better attacking instincts than defensive ones, and in fairness the boy has done more than expected. He's doing this, I guess in the hope that Taylor can recover in time, but at least he has an option. I've discounted Hinds at this point, he will only be considered as cover, I'm sure. Fair play to him for getting himself in a position that LJ has recognised him. So, surely we need to be bringing in another striker, a starter? If we do really need one, it's an admission that Taylor, Đurić (and Engvall) are not 1st choice to pair with Diedhiou once fit. We'll end up with a bloated set of forwards....and we'll all be questioning wasted £s. Lets see: 1. Whether Taylor is fit to start the season (I'm not keen on him personally, but that's another story / thread) 2. Whether Reid is a capable replacement 3. Whether anyone (possibly 6 month loan) comes in
shelts Posted July 23, 2017 Posted July 23, 2017 11 hours ago, Dynamite Red said: If Bobby Reid is our answer for a Championship striker we will be playing league one football next season. Goals against Bath, Bristol Manor Farm, Exeter and some shite Spanish team proves nothing. I don't think that Bobby is the answer up top but stranger swops have happened and worked . Did our poor old beleaguered keeper FF not play left back before putting on the gloves!!
22A Posted July 23, 2017 Posted July 23, 2017 Just now, shelts said: Did our poor old beleaguered keeper FF not play left back before putting on the gloves!! Cashley started as right back. Given the TARDIS, we could have had a useful pair of defenders.
SedRA Posted July 23, 2017 Posted July 23, 2017 11 hours ago, Dynamite Red said: If Bobby Reid is our answer for a Championship striker we will be playing league one football next season. Goals against Bath, Bristol Manor Farm, Exeter and some shite Spanish team proves nothing. We need a yawn emoticon. Why are some people so closed minded? Give the guy a shot, of course the opposition have been weak but he can't do much more to be given a chance.
wendyredredrobin Posted July 23, 2017 Posted July 23, 2017 I had Durex & Dildo down as our first choice front pair if they were both fit.
Ohbasso Posted July 23, 2017 Posted July 23, 2017 15 minutes ago, wendyredredrobin said: I had Durex & Dildo down as our first choice front pair if they were both fit. I don't see why you'd need Durex as well, I think that he'd do a job up there on his own.
22A Posted July 23, 2017 Posted July 23, 2017 5 minutes ago, Ohbasso said: I don't see why you'd need Durex as well, I think that he'd do a job up there on his own. Durex is a Goalie. Stops all the shots and collects all the dribbles. Dildo on the other hand, is useful up front or at the back. Back on thread; I would be concerned if any of our forwards had not been scoring against opposition that's weaker than we will be playing in a few weeks.
Packman Posted July 23, 2017 Posted July 23, 2017 12 hours ago, Dynamite Red said: It's not harsh, he has never played as as a striker, he is lightweight, looses possession easily, he has shown regularly last season he is inconsistent and wasteful in front of goal. If he is the answer then I guess the question is how quickly can we get relegated. I doubt John Terry etc.. are concerned about facing Bobby Reid. This statement may well come back to bite after a few weeks of the season. Why don't you just give him a chance and a bit of support from the stands if he does start up top against Barnsley. I bet you can't wait for him to miss a chance so you can get on his back. If we would have signed Diedhou a few weeks earlier and he would have banged in 7 in 4 games everyone would be saying we've got an absolute gem on our hands here. We all know how good Bobby can be, Hull last season where he gave Huddleston and Livermore the run around for example, so let's get behind the lad and get his confidence up instead of slating him.
pongo88 Posted July 23, 2017 Posted July 23, 2017 "Is anyone else hopeful about Reid and Diedhieou as a front 2?" Sorry, but reading this has spoiled my weekend. We've got to get real about "young" Bobby Reid (aged 24). At no stage in his career has he shown any consistency with his finishing or his form in general, apart from when he played in League Two for Plymouth. He's had a good pre-season scoring against very low level teams and sudddenly he's the new messiah! I keep hearing the comments "you can only score against who you are playing against" as defence of his goal scoring against lower level teams, but things don't work like that. If it did City could just sign a couple of forwards from Manor Farm or Brislington etc. Occasional there are non league players like Jamie Vardy who are natural goal scorers and can make the leap to a higher level, but Reid isn't one of them. Even Taylor who scored for fun in leagues one and two struggled in the Championship
Nogbad the Bad Posted July 23, 2017 Posted July 23, 2017 YB has been at the club since primary school iirc. He's now 24, so not so YB. Surely in all that time, under numerous coaches ( including LJ himself previously when YB was 14) someone would have noticed if there was a potential Championship quality forward in him? Especially considering his long struggle since becoming a pro. to make his mark in City's midfield, climaxing last season with the midfield being structured specifically to make him the 3rd man in a move and maximising his shooting opportunities, a failed strategy ( or choice of individual) arguably detrimental to the team as a whole, which culminated in a run of misses so repetitively dreadful they necessitated his removal from the team altogether. His awful finishing over 7 first team seasons just might be the reason numerous previous coaches have not rated him as a forward. A run of goals against extremely weak opposition is hardly likely to convince fans, who have held their heads in disbelief so often at his wayward finishing, that it gives any reason to believe he is suddenly going to transform into Championship quality up front.
Davefevs Posted July 23, 2017 Posted July 23, 2017 18 minutes ago, pongo88 said: "Is anyone else hopeful about Reid and Diedhieou as a front 2?" Sorry, but reading this has spoiled my weekend. We've got to get real about "young" Bobby Reid (aged 24). At no stage in his career has he shown any consistency with his finishing or his form in general, apart from when he played in League Two for Plymouth. He's had a good pre-season scoring against very low level teams and sudddenly he's the new messiah! I keep hearing the comments "you can only score against who you are playing against" as defence of his goal scoring against lower level teams, but things don't work like that. If it did City could just sign a couple of forwards from Manor Farm or Brislington etc. Occasional there are non league players like Jamie Vardy who are natural goal scorers and can make the leap to a higher level, but Reid isn't one of them. Even Taylor who scored for fun in leagues one and two struggled in the Championship If you read some posts properly, not everyone being positive about him is going as far as calling them the messiah. Some of us are saying he has given us an 'option' during an small injury crisis to our forward line. Take away Tomlin's (messiah??) penalties last season and Reid's goal return was better, plus he ran around a lot more too. He isn't a long term answer, but you can't just go out and bring players in willy-nilly either.
BS4 on Tour... Posted July 23, 2017 Posted July 23, 2017 7 hours ago, JamesBCFC said: Copy/paste of something I put on another forum last night This has to be the season he (Reid) makes a big step forward. He's been very good in pre-season, his finishing particularly. I don't think finishing was his issue, but more his composure, when he's under pressure and has less time he fluffs his lines. If he has worked on his composure then we could well see a few more goals from him this season, rather than those misses. I agree with you James, this is a big season for Bobby. I'm not sure if it will work having him up front - time will obviously tell. But I'm also not sure about his finishing, or composure....look at the vid below from 38 seconds in, he showed good composure but not a brill finish, although the keeper did well. Never thought we'd be debating Bobby as a striker! Who knows... Mind you, Flint's positioning a few seconds after that on the vid left a lot to be desired too!
HoldenBall Posted July 23, 2017 Posted July 23, 2017 I feel at this present moment our best bet is Taylor partnering Fammy. Watching Fammy against Yeovil he looked more of a target man so might be too much of a similar player. Reid I'm sorry will never be the answer, not in midfield, and definitely not up front. The other option of course is Vassell from Luton who I feel if we really wanted to bring him in, we could.
glynriley Posted July 23, 2017 Posted July 23, 2017 12 minutes ago, Sergio Georgini said: I feel at this present moment our best bet is Taylor partnering Fammy. Watching Fammy against Yeovil he looked more of a target man so might be too much of a similar player. Reid I'm sorry will never be the answer, not in midfield, and definitely not up front. The other option of course is Vassell from Luton who I feel if we really wanted to bring him in, we could. Don't know anything about Vassell TBH, what is it about him that makes you think he could make it here?. Looks like he's only had 1 season at league 2 level scoring 8 in 40. He's only 6 months younger than Reid as well. Wiki has him as winger/striker. Is he more adept at coming in from wide or playing through the middle? As I say, I'd never heard of him until a few days back so wouldn't mind a review.
downendcity Posted July 23, 2017 Posted July 23, 2017 2 hours ago, wendyredredrobin said: I had Durex & Dildo down as our first choice front pair if they were both fit. One is more of a stopper the other can be a bit of a dick and can't be relied on to score regularly on their own - they need someone else to lend a hand.
Simon79 Posted July 23, 2017 Posted July 23, 2017 I've always rated Bobby. I've also been taken to account on here for stating it on here. He has the ability to find space, he is a forward thinking player. He is going to give the ball away occasionally, players like that do. They see passes that are risky, it's about knowing when to attempt that pass. For me, he is a number 10, just off/behind the main striker. He also has high energy and will press when needed. Something that our old number 10 might not of & something that I think we will base our style on this season. I'm going to stick my head out here ( go easy on me! ), if Bobby is played there regularly, he will get at least 10 goals & a number of assists. Tin hat firmly on! COYR
Rossi the Robin Posted July 23, 2017 Posted July 23, 2017 This is a forum ffs Some posters don't think Reid is the answer including myself, but he's wearing the shirt and will get my full support However like I've said it's a forum for discussion and we can't all come on and post we think he will do a good job just so we don't sound negative
Nogbad the Bad Posted July 23, 2017 Posted July 23, 2017 24 minutes ago, glynriley said: Don't know anything about Vassell TBH, what is it about him that makes you think he could make it here?. Looks like he's only had 1 season at league 2 level scoring 8 in 40. He's only 6 months younger than Reid as well. Wiki has him as winger/striker. Is he more adept at coming in from wide or playing through the middle? As I say, I'd never heard of him until a few days back so wouldn't mind a review. Sacrilege, NO ONE is younger than Young Bobby.
42nite Posted July 23, 2017 Posted July 23, 2017 15 hours ago, MyBrotherErnie said: That's a fine elbow!
Im_over_ere Posted July 23, 2017 Posted July 23, 2017 Even if Reid is not used as a striker, this pre season role may give him the confidence to be a more composed goalscoring midfielder
Sprocket Posted July 23, 2017 Posted July 23, 2017 7 hours ago, generation1 said: as usual negative vibes invade a thread, it seems the pattern all the way on the forum. the people expressing them always say they are debate points but are nearly always the same authors. been around this club a long time and nothing has changed in the eyes of many. no matter who the manager is or the team are we seem to look for the negatives. the season is yet to start lets give it a chance and by the way if you are ready to give up if it is a poor start how can you expect different from those you will be slating. You can`t come on here writing your sensible views.
pongo88 Posted July 23, 2017 Posted July 23, 2017 2 hours ago, Davefevs said: If you read some posts properly, not everyone being positive about him is going as far as calling them the messiah. Some of us are saying he has given us an 'option' during an small injury crisis to our forward line. Take away Tomlin's (messiah??) penalties last season and Reid's goal return was better, plus he ran around a lot more too. He isn't a long term answer, but you can't just go out and bring players in willy-nilly either. It's not a case of bringing in players willy nilly. City have Taylor, Engvall, Patterson, O'Dowda, Diedhiou and Wilbraham, who are forwards or attacking midfield players. All have signed during LJ's term as manager. Even allowing for injuries it says a lot about LJ's transfer strategy that even with these 6 players the Peter Pan of Bristol City, Bobby Reid, is in with a chance of starting the first league match.
Sir Colby-Tit Posted July 23, 2017 Posted July 23, 2017 4 hours ago, 22A said: Strike Partnership? How about Scanlon & Scargill? Bryant & May?
eardun Posted July 23, 2017 Posted July 23, 2017 55 minutes ago, pongo88 said: It's not a case of bringing in players willy nilly. City have Taylor, Engvall, Patterson, O'Dowda, Diedhiou and Wilbraham, who are forwards or attacking midfield players. All have signed during LJ's term as manager. Even allowing for injuries it says a lot about LJ's transfer strategy that even with these 6 players the Peter Pan of Bristol City, Bobby Reid, is in with a chance of starting the first league match. Taylor, Engvall and Wilbs have all had injuries this summer. Paterson (on the left) and Diedhiou (number 9) are pretty much nailed on to play v Barnsley I reckon. I think O'Dowda is more of a wide player than a number 10. So given all of that, I don't think it is such a massive surprise that Reid is in with a chance of starting the first league match, especially given his form pre-season.
RedM Posted July 23, 2017 Posted July 23, 2017 I'm not sure what the club plans for Bobby this season, I guess it will depend if we are able to get anyone else in. But I do think they have wheeled Bobby into the limelight a bit more than usual, he's usually dipping under the radar. Could be an indication of him being used more promanantly?
Spike Posted July 23, 2017 Posted July 23, 2017 17 hours ago, Dynamite Red said: If Bobby Reid is our answer for a Championship striker we will be playing league one football next season. Goals against Bath, Bristol Manor Farm, Exeter and some shite Spanish team proves nothing. He scored 6 goals last season which was from the midfield and showed a lot of promise. There have been plenty of players who have charged position and really clubs their calling, even Shearer was a goalkeeper in his early career. Give the lad a chance, he's passionate, driven and works hard and can only score against what's put in front of him.
The Bard Posted July 23, 2017 Posted July 23, 2017 What a nasty little thread this turned into. A load of people slating a player who is scoring goals in pre-season friendlies. I would love it if he shoved those words down a few people's throats.
Davefevs Posted July 23, 2017 Posted July 23, 2017 3 hours ago, eardun said: Taylor, Engvall and Wilbs have all had injuries this summer. Paterson (on the left) and Diedhiou (number 9) are pretty much nailed on to play v Barnsley I reckon. I think O'Dowda is more of a wide player than a number 10. So given all of that, I don't think it is such a massive surprise that Reid is in with a chance of starting the first league match, especially given his form pre-season. Thanks, saved me the typing! Perhaps he's thought the others are settled into positions that suit the shape, and Bobby is the expendable one to gamble on seeing if he can play close to Diedhiou. All he's done is work hard and given the manager an option, whilst the plethora of injured strikers attempt to get fit. Plenty on here are keen to see McCoulsky given a go. I like the fantasy of it, but I'd rather start with Reid if Taylor isn't ready. of course we go 1 up top
WayOutWest Posted July 23, 2017 Posted July 23, 2017 3 hours ago, The Bard said: What a nasty little thread this turned into. A load of people slating a player who is scoring goals in pre-season friendlies. I would love it if he shoved those words down a few people's throats. Yeah I agree totally. Bobby Reid is a professional footballer the lack of respect on here for one of our own is baffling. He really cant do anymore than provide LJ a headache for selection. Its pre season and games against lower league opposition and things are tried. Some come off some do not. LJ has probably dangled a carrot in front of BR and he has grasped that opportunity, he deserves praise not a bashing.
cityred exile Posted July 23, 2017 Posted July 23, 2017 Bobby has the knack of getting into goalscoring positions every match if he could only put the ball in the net just50% of thetime he would be getting 15/20 a season I never felt that he could play in the same match as Lee Tomlin so reckon its time to slot in up front or the Top of the mid field role This has to be the season that is the making of Bobby !
Davefevs Posted July 23, 2017 Posted July 23, 2017 10 minutes ago, Bristol_Badger said: If we are starting the new season with Bobby in the team up top or as a number 10 then we have either had a bloody bad summer in the transfer market or an injury crisis. We need to move forward with better quality players... and that is not Bobby. He is a squad player at best. LJ is taking a big gamble.. fair play if it pays off but take a look at Bobby's goal scoring record in a City shirt...can't see it being the best. We have an injury crisis
bearded_red Posted July 23, 2017 Posted July 23, 2017 Repeatedly referring to him as 'young Bobby' is really funny. Well done.
Davefevs Posted July 23, 2017 Posted July 23, 2017 12 minutes ago, bearded_red said: Repeatedly referring to him as 'young Bobby' is really funny. Well done. Almost as funny as calling Johnson 'junior'....winds me up.
Garland-sweden Posted July 24, 2017 Posted July 24, 2017 Think 5 aug we play Bobby- Famara or Gustav- Famara upfront. Reid done well so far, think he starts. Not good teams we met but he scores all the time. Taylor, Đurić injuried, options is BR and GE. Dont Think Wilbs is not in the plans to start. If we got a new fw in, then maybe different. Think it looks ok with our forwards. Famara, Đurić, Taylor, Engvall. Reid fw surprise for me but it can work, Wilbs backup. All these players can score and thats its all about. Cruyf said once, its only one ball and you got to have it. 433, 424, 541 or whatever. Ok, thats tacticts and another story, he he.
David Brent Posted August 12, 2017 Posted August 12, 2017 On 22/07/2017 at 23:33, David Brent said: Give Bobby the responsibility to play in that role. I think he'll thrive. Keep thriving Bobby
054123 Posted August 12, 2017 Posted August 12, 2017 Bobby Reid is a perfectly adequate footballer for our level. Whats wrong with that?
Lrrr Posted September 30, 2017 Posted September 30, 2017 On 22/07/2017 at 23:17, Dynamite Red said: If Bobby Reid is our answer for a Championship striker we will be playing league one football next season. Goals against Bath, Bristol Manor Farm, Exeter and some shite Spanish team proves nothing. On 22/07/2017 at 23:28, Dynamite Red said: It's not harsh, he has never played as as a striker, he is lightweight, looses possession easily, he has shown regularly last season he is inconsistent and wasteful in front of goal. If he is the answer then I guess the question is how quickly can we get relegated. I doubt John Terry etc.. are concerned about facing Bobby Reid.
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