Just to be clear....

[Bar BS3]

Can I just get something straight because I'm finding the mood of the forum a little confusing so far this season. 

Man I right in thinking that if we dominate and win a game, then the opposition isn't strong..?

If we dominate a game for long spells but lose, narrowly, despite hitting the woodwork several times, then it's LJ's fault..?

If we get out played by one of the best teams (on their day) in the division, with their manager stating how exceptionally well they played, in a fixture that we seldom get much from, but come away with a battling, last gasp point, then it's LJ's fault..? 

Can someone please provide a list of clubs that are of the required standard, so I know if beating them is to be applauded or ignored. Whilst at it, can that list be distributed to all 23 other teams, who clearly don't know the rules either and keep beating each other. 

Thank you, in anticipation of some clarity over this. 

[Grey Fox]

Go to the games, City fans are great, on here there are a nucleus of miserable"..........., the rest are OK

[RumRed]

Oh great another thread created to have a go at those with alternative views to the prescribed 'blind support', with no backup evidence provided in defence of the football being displayed on the pitch.

I was so missing these too.

[Malago]

2 minutes ago, Grey Fox said:

Go to the games, City fans are great, on here there are a nucleus of miserable"..........., the rest are OK

I agree.  There is a significant disparity between the mood and expectations of the Club's support at large and the views of the malcontented minority on OTIB , which has become the ghost encarnate of the old enclosure circa 1960s.

 

[Big Red Rich]

16 minutes ago, Bar BS3 said:

Can I just get something straight because I'm finding the mood of the forum a little confusing so far this season. 

Man I right in thinking that if we dominate and win a game, then the opposition isn't strong..?

If we dominate a game for long spells but lose, narrowly, despite hitting the woodwork several times, then it's LJ's fault..?

If we get out played by one of the best teams (on their day) in the division, with their manager stating how exceptionally well they played, in a fixture that we seldom get much from, but come away with a battling, last gasp point, then it's LJ's fault..? 

Can someone please provide a list of clubs that are of the required standard, so I know if beating them is to be applauded or ignored. Whilst at it, can that list be distributed to all 23 other teams, who clearly don't know the rules either and keep beating each other. 

Thank you, in anticipation of some clarity over this. 

Give it a rest mate, you're getting boring.

[Bar BS3]

10 minutes ago, RumRed said:

Oh great another thread created to have a go at those with alternative views to the prescribed 'blind support', with no backup evidence provided in defence of the football being displayed on the pitch.

I was so missing these too.

I refer you to exhibits A) vs Barnsley, B) vs Plymouth & C) vs much of the Birmingham game. 

Wuite happy with the football being displayed and quite happy with a draw last night despite of a not so good display. 

[Bar BS3]

8 minutes ago, Big Red Rich said:

Give it a rest mate, you're getting boring.

Nah you're ok thanks. Block me if you find me boring. 

[Spud55]

15 minutes ago, Grey Fox said:

Go to the games, City fans are great, on here there are a nucleus of miserable"..........., the rest are OK

Would agree with that, the opinions on here are in no way representative of the fan base at large, we had people on here last season organising boycotts, protests etc, etc and none of them ever seemed to come to fruition, we have people guaranteeing that we would sell significantly less season tickets this season such was the displeasure towards LJ from the fan base at large, and yet we have sold basically the same as last season, indicating that they were seriously disconnected with the mood of the wider fan base.

But we've had oh Barnsely doesn't count as they are dreadful, so what does that make Forest?  worse than dreadful? then what does that make Brentford as they lost to Forest ? There is almost zero perspective from many on here on both sides.

[RUSSEL85]

30 minutes ago, Bar BS3 said:

Can someone please provide a list of clubs that are of the required standard, so I know if beating them is to be applauded or ignored. Whilst at it, can that list be distributed to all 23 other teams, who clearly don't know the rules either and keep beating each other. 

Uhhh Preston.

[Buckeyed]

Just to confirm.. if we play well then the players have performed amazingly, if we lose then LJ is to blame for poor tactics. At no point must praise be given to LJ!

[054123]

43 minutes ago, Bar BS3 said:

Can I just get something straight because I'm finding the mood of the forum a little confusing so far this season. 

Man I right in thinking that if we dominate and win a game, then the opposition isn't strong..?

If we dominate a game for long spells but lose, narrowly, despite hitting the woodwork several times, then it's LJ's fault..?

If we get out played by one of the best teams (on their day) in the division, with their manager stating how exceptionally well they played, in a fixture that we seldom get much from, but come away with a battling, last gasp point, then it's LJ's fault..? 

Can someone please provide a list of clubs that are of the required standard, so I know if beating them is to be applauded or ignored. Whilst at it, can that list be distributed to all 23 other teams, who clearly don't know the rules either and keep beating each other. 

Thank you, in anticipation of some clarity over this. 

Results would suggest that we have been poor ever since our return to the Championship. 3 seasons on, who's fault is that?

[Leveller]

There's a good case for us all to switch to Real Madrid or Celtic, so we don't have bothersome opponents to spoil our plans.

[CHAZ MICHAELS]

I'm a tad confused too.

At times it does seem like if we play well and don't win, then it's the result that matters, but if we play poorly and don't lose then it's the performance that matters.

[Guest]

57 minutes ago, Bar BS3 said:

Can I just get something straight because I'm finding the mood of the forum a little confusing so far this season. 

Man I right in thinking that if we dominate and win a game, then the opposition isn't strong..?

I don't think there is anything controversial in that occassionally being the case. I think Barnsley could be one such occassion. They were dreadful. Sometimes teams do have off days, just as we will. More often than not though to dominate you must have performed well, and there's no getting away from the fact for 45 minutes we played very good stuff v Barnsley (understandably the second half was a non-event). Whether another opposition would allow us to play so well is another matter; that is the reservation.

If we dominate a game for long spells but lose, narrowly, despite hitting the woodwork several times, then it's LJ's fault..?

I would absolutely praise the initial set up v Brum. It was a highly impressive opening. But if you want the A+ for that first half, take the F for the second, because to have no answer to them, or semblence of countering their threat, was absolutely a failure.

If we get out played by one of the best teams (on their day) in the division, with their manager stating how exceptionally well they played, in a fixture that we seldom get much from, but come away with a battling, last gasp point, then it's LJ's fault..? 

Absolutely not, we will get battered this year, we will probably lose by 3 or 4 goals at some point; it happens. But I refer back to the Birmingham comments... we can't allow games to run and continue like they are simulations. LJ needs to be more proactive and more reactive in games. It's a fair critique I feel.

Can someone please provide a list of clubs that are of the required standard, so I know if beating them is to be applauded or ignored. Whilst at it, can that list be distributed to all 23 other teams, who clearly don't know the rules either and keep beating each other. 

Take each game as it comes fella. If it was a competitive, hard fought game, then just being close in it even if we lost might deserve applause... the flip side of that though is I find it hard to applaud to enthusiastically robbing a point. I am bloody glad for that point, but there's a post mortem to be had after a game like that.

Thank you, in anticipation of some clarity over this. 

In my mind it's a concerning start. The points haul is very good all things considered, and we have shown some great football. But last season there was a sense of inevitability that going 1 up was not going to be enough. Who after Brentford equalised thought it was inevitable they'd score again... i'd wager most had that sinking feeling. My problem is we have very little versatility in the way we play and approach games. Until we are able to identify when to put the foot on the ball and manage games, and I think this comes from the sideline, we will struggle.

 

[milo1111]

At christmas the table wont lie. Even after 10 games tables can be misleading.... a la last season. People will swing in their moods until everyone has a good wedge of games under their belts then we shall see whats what.

Until then you will get these extreme viewpoints. The truth is in the middle. I suspect we will have a slightly better season than last but only slightly.

[Unan]

We were awful, couldn't string a pass together. The amount of balls that went to literally nobody was infuriating, no excuses.

[Bar BS3]

37 minutes ago, RUSSEL85 said:

Uhhh Preston.

You can't harp on about Preston but ignore Huddersfield. 

[Guest]

6 minutes ago, JamesBCFC said:

Thing is 29AR, you are a pretty balanced poster.

I don't always agree which is fine- opinions etc, but you don't tend to be one of the overreacters, which is who I think @Bar BS3s post is aimed at.

You facking what? Fancy a meet in the park before I have a dust up with Millwall?

[Leveller]

2 minutes ago, 29AR said:

You facking what? Fancy a meet in the park before I have a dust up with Millwall?

I quite like dusting. I'll dust the porcelain, you polish the silver.

[Bar BS3]

16 minutes ago, 29AR said:

 

But this is a reasoned, thought out response. You clearly enjoy it when things go well and raise valid questions when they don't go so well.  No problem with that at all. 

It's the people clearly sat behind their keyboards, if not will things to go against us, then with a smug air of satisfaction that at least it's an opportunity to slate LJ, often contradicting their slating from the previous opportunity! 

If anyone expects us to have every game all our own way then they clearly don't understand this division. Of course, that's not to say their isn't room for constructive debate and questioning, as you have displayed above. 

The repeatative sniping and blaming LJ for no real other reason than it being LJ, is what gets boring and actually probably makes those of us who back him, do so even more stubbornly. 

[BCFC11]

26 minutes ago, Tammys Scan said:

We were awful, couldn't string a pass together. The amount of balls that went to literally nobody was infuriating, no excuses.

So what? Would you have taken a point before KO? I'm sure the majority of our supporter's would of. A point against one of the best footballing sides in the Championship away from home is a decent result regardless of how shit we were.

[054123]

40 minutes ago, JamesBCFC said:

Ah, understand now.

Johnson is to blame for the results in all 95 championship games since promotion despite a good 25-30 of those was an atrocious run under a different manager.

And there was me judging Johnson by HIS time in charge (a top half record), what a fool I am!

 

Um no. It was a genuine question. We have not been a competitive team since our return to this level.

Why is that?

[054123]

You see we have now entered a phase where we keep resetting the clock and it's only been 3 games.

[Red Exile]

2 minutes ago, 054123 said:

Um no. It was a genuine question. We have not been a competitive team since our return to this level.

Why is that?

The club's not being led by people of experience, of sufficient proven ability to move it forward. I can't understand why a man of SL's wealth has failed to recruit an off the pitch team who knows what's needed at this level. Everything flows from that, recruitment, results, attendances...and ultimately realistic hopes of a push for promotion.

[Inactive user]

2 hours ago, Bar BS3 said:

Can I just get something straight because I'm finding the mood of the forum a little confusing so far this season. 

Man I right in thinking that if we dominate and win a game, then the opposition isn't strong..?

If we dominate a game for long spells but lose, narrowly, despite hitting the woodwork several times, then it's LJ's fault..?

If we get out played by one of the best teams (on their day) in the division, with their manager stating how exceptionally well they played, in a fixture that we seldom get much from, but come away with a battling, last gasp point, then it's LJ's fault..? 

Can someone please provide a list of clubs that are of the required standard, so I know if beating them is to be applauded or ignored. Whilst at it, can that list be distributed to all 23 other teams, who clearly don't know the rules either and keep beating each other. 

Thank you, in anticipation of some clarity over this. 

Bang on my friend.  You Reds!

[Unan]

36 minutes ago, BCFC11 said:

So what? Would you have taken a point before KO? I'm sure the majority of our supporter's would of. A point against one of the best footballing sides in the Championship away from home is a decent result regardless of how shit we were.

Yes I would've, I wasn't saying it was a bad point, just that we were useless.

[054123]

1 hour ago, Bar BS3 said:

I refer you to exhibits A) vs Barnsley, B) vs Plymouth & C) vs much of the Birmingham game. 

Wuite happy with the football being displayed and quite happy with a draw last night despite of a not so good display. 

You forget exhibit D) our return to the Championship and the body of work put together over this time which has seen us embroiled in 2 relegation battles. 

Progress?

I really don't have a problem with Johnson and I've accepted that Steve Lansdown is trying to do things his way and his intentions are true enough.

I love this club and drag my boys and their mates down every home game (and some away!) But even i can see its been crap for the past 2 seasons.

[054123]

18 minutes ago, Tammys Scan said:

Yes I would've, I wasn't saying it was a bad point, just that we were useless.

This was what we were saying last night. Absolutely on paper that is a solid point. But if you were there you would have seen an awful performance the likes of which would have seen us lose 9/10 other times. It's not like 2 heavyweights slugged out a draw.

Question for fan base in general - is that what you want? A team that every now and again scrapes a point?

[Unan]

6 minutes ago, 054123 said:

This was what we were saying last night. Absolutely on paper that is a solid point. But if you were there you would have seen an awful performance the likes of which would have seen us lose 9/10 other times. It's not like 2 heavyweights slugged out a draw.

Is that what you want? A team that every now and again scrapes a point?

What are you talking about? Are you drunk?

[SARJ]

1 hour ago, Tammys Scan said:

We were awful, couldn't string a pass together. The amount of balls that went to literally nobody was infuriating, no excuses.

Finally, a different viewpoint other than "well, we beat Barnsley and Plymouth easy"

[054123]

6 minutes ago, Tammys Scan said:

What are you talking about? Are you drunk?

No, I was agreeing with you. I shall edit my post.

[054123]

4 minutes ago, JamesBCFC said:

In that case apologies for being flippant.

Will have a go at a proper answer later when I have more stable internet.

This is where I'm struggling now. Johnson, Cottrell, Lansdown, other people. It doesn't really matter, as a club we have not really progressed and whilst the forum loves to have arguments about the future, which is difficult to assess, if you look at the past 2 seasons it's been a shambles and I don't see how that is debatable.

[steviestevieneville]

2 hours ago, RumRed said:

Oh great another thread created to have a go at those with alternative views to the prescribed 'blind support', with no backup evidence provided in defence of the football being displayed on the pitch.

I was so missing these too.

But to start a thread as was done last night slagging people off trying to be balanced and not having a meltdown at every performance that's not 10/10 is ok. You're one of the worst for it . 

[LondonBristolian]

1 hour ago, JamesBCFC said:

Thing is 29AR, you are a pretty balanced poster.

I don't always agree which is fine- opinions etc, but you don't tend to be one of the overreacters, which is who I think @Bar BS3s post is aimed at.

Indeed - couldn't quote @29AR directly as his post does not appear if I do but it was a good analysis I completely agree with.

To be honest I get a bit frustrated with both extremes. I was there last night and it is absolutely fair to criticise the performance and especially the failure to react and make changes. And it was pretty clear from about 20 minutes onwards that they would equalise and some point and take the lead after that. What I did not expect was to equalise but the equaliser had been coming for a few minutes.

From January to April last year, I was calling for LJ's head so I would certainly hope nobody could accuse me of being in denial or a 'happy clapper' BUT I do feel that, whilst there may be posters on here who are unwilling to tolerate any criticism of the manager, there are a larger - whilst still small in the grand scheme of posters on here let alone City fans in general - minority of posters who seem to blame LJ for all that goes wrong but not give credit for what worked. If it was LJ's fault that we threw away a winning position and found ourselves in a losing one - and I certainly think that was his fault - he also deserves credit for the fact the changes he made worked and we rescued a point. 

Where that leaves us for the rest of the season, I don't know. Personally I do not think we are going to have a disastrous run like last year (and it must be said yesterday was the kind of game we would have lost last season) but we will not reach our potential unless the manager is a bit more tactically astute and reactive to situations in games. Time will tell if he can learn but I wish certain fans would let bygones be bygones and not treat every single setback as though we're ten points adrift in a relegation battle. Nobody is asking anyone to be blindly optimistic - just have a sense of perspective.

[simon uk]

Ive been bleating on about lj going since that run last season, what i would say is that there is certainly a much clearer sense of team unity and working hard than last year, which i think is what he has learned. The fact that we got to injury time one goal behind and had enough left to force the equaliser is certainly a positive which didnt happen last season.

[Jackson Lamb]

The issue is the fact people on this forum just cannot have an opinion, and stick to it. It's constant back of forth, one minute all is well, the team looks more together, Johnson has gained vital experience, we look more experienced than last season etc. To the next saying Johnson is clueless, we are dog poo, we are going down, this squad is the worst I've ever seen, Johnson's a **** etc. 

I predicted these comments last month (which I took a lot of grief from), but I did not think they would arise so quickly. I'm just waiting for the attacks on Lansdown, and Mark Ashton then I have a full house. 

The difference with me, and a few other posters is I will stick to my opinion as I believe it is a true reflection of the current ongoings at this club. Am I surprised we were poor against Brentford? No, why would I be? This squad is weaker than last season, and the club YET AGAIN have failed to see the obvious, and make improvements where required. I'm not going into full depth into what I truly believe will happen this season.

But in simple points:

• Stick with Johnson = relegation
• The club have failed to improve on already weakened Championship side two seasons running
• Lansdown needs to wake up for dreamland, and stop living in hope that Johnson is a talented head coach in the making
• It would not surprise me if we went on another losing streak this season
• Fans need to get real, and look around at other teams and see the quality they possess
• Our squad will not get us into the top half, it's failed to do so last two seasons, whats the difference now?
• Our transfer policy has been poor the last two seasons

 

Go and prove me wrong Johnson, this club deserves a good season in this league.

[Robin Ashton]

50 minutes ago, 054123 said:

 

Question for fan base in general - is that what you want? A team that every now and again scrapes a point?

No. I want City to win every game. To crush our opponents, and hear the lamentations of their fans!

[Red-Robbo]

2 hours ago, CHAZ MICHAELS said:

I'm a tad confused too.

At times it does seem like if we play well and don't win, then it's the result that matters, but if we play poorly and don't lose then it's the performance that matters.

What concerns me is that we haven't put in a 90 minutes performance since the season began. We've shown glimpses,  but have lacked the consistency, discipline and fitness to play well for more than 45 minutes.

The really big clubs will whup us, unless these deficiencies are sorted.

[exAtyeoMax]

1 hour ago, BCFC11 said:

So what? Would you have taken a point before KO? I'm sure the majority of our supporter's would of. A point against one of the best footballing sides in the Championship away from home is a decent result regardless of how shit we were.

If it was at the end of the season and our survival depended on it, then yes but it's not…

[054123]

14 minutes ago, Robin Ashton said:

No. I want City to win every game. To crush our opponents, and hear the lamentations of their fans!

Exactamundo 

 

[Bar BS3]

1 hour ago, 054123 said:

You forget exhibit D) our return to the Championship and the body of work put together over this time which has seen us embroiled in 2 relegation battles. 

Progress?

I really don't have a problem with Johnson and I've accepted that Steve Lansdown is trying to do things his way and his intentions are true enough.

I love this club and drag my boys and their mates down every home game (and some away!) But even i can see its been crap for the past 2 seasons.

For periods it has been crap. I think for periods it's been decent. 

I think things are progressing, albeit of course there is still a lot more to do. 

I don't think we will pull up trees this season, but I don't think we'll be in danger either. 

[cityexile]

OTIBs general consensus before season.

'Mid table this year, yep, on balance that would represent progress'.

OTIBs comments after three games, in which we have played pretty well for three halves and pretty poorly for three halves:

'Results and performances, 1 win, 1 draw, 1 loss, not good enough!'.

Think first ten games will give us a good indication of where we really are.

 

[RumRed]

1 hour ago, steviestevieneville said:

But to start a thread as was done last night slagging people off trying to be balanced and not having a meltdown at every performance that's not 10/10 is ok. You're one of the worst for it . 

Point me in the direction of a thread I've started on here which suggests I believe my opinion matters so much that I have to rehash something that is being done to death on many others.

[steviestevieneville]

5 minutes ago, RumRed said:

Point me in the direction of a thread I've started on here which suggests I believe my opinion matters so much that I have to rehash something that is being done to death on many others.

I never said you started the thread . 

[RumRed]

3 minutes ago, steviestevieneville said:

I never said you started the thread . 

Cool, I thought I may have done after too many Thatchers!

[MarcusX]

4 hours ago, Bar BS3 said:

 in a fixture that we seldom get much from,

Just wanted to pick up on this point. If there's one thing in football that annoys me more than anything it's an inference that past results in a fixture have any bearing or relevance to future games.

i heard Brentford and Birmingham referred to as somewhere we never do well, or as above, as if it's some kind of reason for us to accept a loss there or predict before the game that we won't do well.

whilst it might be statistically true that we haven't won at a certain place for some time, if the majority of the squad, management and even owners have changed in that time it's completely irrelevant to how we got on Saturday, last night or next time we play one of these teams.

[Bar BS3]

1 minute ago, MarcusX said:

Just wanted to pick up on this point. If there's one thing in football that annoys me more than anything it's an inference that past results in a fixture have any bearing or relevance to future games.

i heard Brentford and Birmingham referred to as somewhere we never do well, or as above, as if it's some kind of reason for us to accept a loss there or predict before the game that we won't do well.

whilst it might be statistically true that we haven't won at a certain place for some time, if the majority of the squad, management and even owners have changed in that time it's completely irrelevant to how we got on Saturday, last night or next time we play one of these teams.

Of course. It does seem to have a baring though. From one season to the next, players won't have changed that much. For longer voodoo's maybe it's down clubs playing styles. Maybe just confidence, or lack of. 

I agree though, it shouldn't matter. 

[Hellfire Corner]

3 hours ago, Tammys Scan said:

We were awful, couldn't string a pass together. The amount of balls that went to literally nobody was infuriating, no excuses.

Yes, but we drew 2-2

[RumRed]

2 minutes ago, Hellfire Corner said:

Yes, but we drew 2-2

 

[BCFC11]

1 hour ago, exAtyeoMax said:

If it was at the end of the season and our survival depended on it, then yes but it's not…

What difference does it make what stage of the season it is? End of the day we've got a point which everyone would of taken, you aren't going to be entertained every game unfortunately.

[Gert Mare]

Pleased the happy clappers can provide such reasoned and well thought out responses. Well done, give yourselves a nice happy clap on the back and you can sleep well in bed tonight knowing that you are far superior minded to those with negative views. FML!!! 

[exAtyeoMax]

11 minutes ago, BCFC11 said:

What difference does it make what stage of the season it is? End of the day we've got a point which everyone would of taken, you aren't going to be entertained every game unfortunately.

I would imagine that BCFC are aiming for promotion, and have brought in players, sold others so that we can progress up the league. It's not about 'being entertained' week on week but demonstrating that we are able to progress and become 'a better team'. Unfortunately, it didn't look like that last night. Surely you would prefer City to be competing on a parr with the other teams in the Championship and not continually relying on games similar to an 'end of season dogfight' all the way through the season?

[YorkshireSection]

i want LJ here for the long run as that means success, it's not going to be an easy ride and it may not take us to where we want to go, if so then I hope we can identify the correct time to change things up, now though is the time to get behind the team.

[RumRed]

4 hours ago, Grey Fox said:

Go to the games, City fans are great, on here there are a nucleus of miserable"..........., the rest are OK

Is that because we can cope with two things at once?  Support the team at the game and then critically analyse the performance subsequently?

Really not difficult to do both.

[Hellfire Corner]

39 minutes ago, RumRed said:

 

That's me front right in the red shirt. I had a purple and green shirt, but as I was at my home street party I changed to red!

[AppyDAZE]

2 hours ago, Red-Robbo said:

What concerns me is that we haven't put in a 90 minutes performance since the season began. We've shown glimpses,  but have lacked the consistency, discipline and fitness to play well for more than 45 minutes.

The really big clubs will whup us, unless these deficiencies are sorted.

My man. In a nutshell. Saves me getting called a non-fan, sorry we didnt lose, thick, ****, etc etc

[Spud55]

6 hours ago, Red-Robbo said:

What concerns me is that we haven't put in a 90 minutes performance since the season began. We've shown glimpses,  but have lacked the consistency, discipline and fitness to play well for more than 45 minutes.

The really big clubs will whup us, unless these deficiencies are sorted.

3 games is hardly much of a sample size, but I broadly agree that it is concerning that we can't put together a whole game performance, although I would argue against Barnsley we took our foot off the gas in the second half and controlled the game comfortably until Johnson for reasons beyond comprehension arsed about with the defence and put us in a position to concede. We're it not for that I would argue that it was very good game management, we expected a response from Barnsley so just played to control the game and largely did. 

It's very rare for a team that is so far ahead and comfortable to come out for a second half all guns blazing, yes I would like us to, but if we do and then get picked off and trow away the lead by being too gung ho can you imagine the reaction from, well everyone? 

The thing that worries me is that Johnson is slow to react, against Birmingham, now he can't change things at half time, as you don't know what harrying is going to do, but when you see that change and the impact it had you have to respond, and he didn't. 

Again yesterday, we were utterly battered and holding out OK, but clearly things had to be changed, didn't even have to be a sub initially, you could just drop Bobby back to make a 5 in midfield, now as I wasn't there I can't say for certain that that didn't happen, but it didn't sound like it, and then to wait until the 73rd minute to make changes was frankly criminal. 

But equally on the other side, the changes made worked and got an undeserved draw, in a game that I'm absolutely confident last season we would have lost. 

So yes there are causes for concern but also causes to be quietly optimistic as well. 

[pillred]

8 hours ago, 29AR said:

 

ever thought of a job as a lawyer, very persuasive argument I have to say.

[YorkshireSection]

16 hours ago, exAtyeoMax said:

I would imagine that BCFC are aiming for promotion, and have brought in players, sold others so that we can progress up the league. It's not about 'being entertained' week on week but demonstrating that we are able to progress and become 'a better team'. Unfortunately, it didn't look like that last night. Surely you would prefer City to be competing on a parr with the other teams in the Championship and not continually relying on games similar to an 'end of season dogfight' all the way through the season?

We would all be pretty happy if we won all our home games, drew most away and maybe lost a few and won a few, no? 

I mean averaging that out we would be looking at 80 plus points, who'd be happy with that eh, jeez!!!!

Im not saying that's gonna happen but in reality it's not far off the realms of possibility, especially when you take the positives from Brentford which for me would be our determination to fight to the bitter end, showing greater togetherness and toughness than the game before, and for me Bobbys finish was a huge highlight, Tammyesque (intact if it was tammy Wed all be waxing lyrical about what a find we've loaned from Chelsea, the fact he's our player is even more to celebrate).