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RedRoss

RedRoss

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3 minutes ago, Robbored said:

Cotterill was ok but not in my list of favourite City managers.

why are we talking about a previous manager for?  :whistle:

 

Nogbad the Bad

Nogbad the Bad

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5 minutes ago, Robbored said:

Cotterill was ok but not in my list of favourite City managers.

Let's have your favourite 5 then....

Taz

Taz

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7 minutes ago, Robbored said:

Cotterill was ok but not in my list of favourite City managers.

He was a close second to Gary Johnson isn't that right?

 

 

:whistle:

Phileas Fogg

Phileas Fogg

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7 minutes ago, Robbored said:

Cotterill was ok but not in my list of favourite City managers.

I love that - not really relevant to the discussion but you still felt it necessary to bestow upon us your opinion about Steve Cotterill :laugh:

RedLionLad

RedLionLad

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13 minutes ago, Robbored said:

Cotterill was ok but not in my list of favourite City managers.

What about the list of successful managers?

Your dislike of him means nothing.

Carey 6

Carey 6

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53 minutes ago, redmycolour said:

Good luck to the bloke,hope he gets the job at Northampton Town fc,have him back tomorrow, better than what we've got by miles, I know not this again,

16/1 with Skybet for the job. 

Hasselbaink the favourite. 

I actually think Cotts would do quite well there. Shame he's been out of work for so long.

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Robbored

Robbored

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17 minutes ago, Dollymarie said:

Right, I've deleted the personal abuse. Play nice you lot. 

Probably aimed at me I expect. ..........:rofl2br:

 

Dollymarie

Dollymarie

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15 minutes ago, Kodjias Wrist said:

Theres plenty of abuse on this forum that hasn't been deleted dolls!

Then report the posts and the moderators can look at it. 

Guest

Guest

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18 minutes ago, Dollymarie said:

Right, I've deleted the personal abuse. Play nice you lot. 

Not guilty, your honour.

Robbored

Robbored

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1 hour ago, Nogbad the Bad said:

Let's have your favourite 5 then....

I don't usually do requests but as it's you Nogbad...

1) Danny Wilson.

2) Alan Dicks

3) Joe Jordon

4) John Ward

5) Terry Cooper

Based entirely on the way they tried to play the beautiful game.

 

AppyDAZE

AppyDAZE

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8 minutes ago, Robbored said:

I don't usually do requests but as it's you Nogbad...

1) Danny Wilson.

2) Alan Dicks

3) Joe Jordon

4) John Ward

5) Terry Cooper

Based entirely on the way they tried to play the beautiful game.

 

Danny (one trophy, and that the Mickey Mouse, in 4 years) Wilson above Cotterill?  .. come on

Robbored

Robbored

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2 minutes ago, AppyDAZE said:

Danny (one trophy, and that the Mickey Mouse) Wilson above Cotterill  .. come on

Read the last sentence of my previous post...........:facepalm:

AppyDAZE

AppyDAZE

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2 minutes ago, Robbored said:

Read the last sentence of my previous post...........:facepalm:

I DID. Football is about balancing the two. the football under cotts was Ok and he won things. Nevermind the head in hands stuff.

BobBobSuperBob

BobBobSuperBob

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9 minutes ago, Robbored said:

I don't usually do requests but as it's you Nogbad...

1) Danny Wilson.

2) Alan Dicks

3) Joe Jordon

4) John Ward

5) Terry Cooper

Based entirely on the way they tried to play the beautiful game.

 

Alan Dicks will always s be a legend for what he achieved but 'how they tried to play the beautiful game' ????

:whistle:

We didn't play great football but we're extremely spirited , committed and dogged and had some decent players and many qualities to admire but expansive football wasn't one

What were you watching ?

spudski

spudski

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16 minutes ago, Robbored said:

I don't usually do requests but as it's you Nogbad...

1) Danny Wilson.

2) Alan Dicks

3) Joe Jordon

4) John Ward

5) Terry Cooper

Based entirely on the way they tried to play the beautiful game.

 

Kinnel Robbo...I can't stand Cotts, for various reasons, but he at least tried to play football, however reckless it was at times.

AppyDAZE

AppyDAZE

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Can't argue with Dicks,  Cooper, Jordan or Ward .. but how can any list that omits the bloke that took us up and then only ONE game away from the promised land be taken seriously?

Plus missing out Cotterill is just plain wrong too

IMO

Dolman_Stand

Dolman_Stand

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30 minutes ago, AppyDAZE said:

Danny (one trophy, and that the Mickey Mouse, in 4 years) Wilson above Cotterill?  .. come on

I enjoyed the Wilson-era but having him abouve either GJ or SC is ludicrous!

Kid in the Riot

Kid in the Riot

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36 minutes ago, Robbored said:

I don't usually do requests but as it's you Nogbad...

1) Danny Wilson.

2) Alan Dicks

3) Joe Jordon

4) John Ward

5) Terry Cooper

Based entirely on the way they tried to play the beautiful game.

Remind me, Rob bored.

Which one of those managers was it that secured promotion with a 6-0 away win and won a game 8-2 which included a hattrick from a centre back who scored a rabona?

Thanks in advance.

Robbored

Robbored

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11 minutes ago, Dolman_Stand said:

I enjoyed the Wilson-era but having him abouve either GJ or SC is ludicrous!

For me football is about the way the game is played. Getting one up and then defending didn't do it for me but quick attacking football with pacy wingers did do it for me.

The Tinnion/Murray combination was brilliant to watch. 

You don't need to remind me who served that scintillating football.....

Dolman_Stand

Dolman_Stand

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Understand where your coming from but ultimately GJ delivered results and in a league higher than Wilson managed. That play-off final season will live long in the memory despite the fact it wasn't the prettiest football, there was sucha togetherness between players and fans that it never mattered how we did it but we were so close to the big time!

 

RobintheRed Red

RobintheRed Red

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37 minutes ago, old_eastender said:

You only have to remember Cots reception at the Birmingham game to know the majority love him still. Bought us our best season since the old div 1 seasons under Dicks. 

yes not expensive signings he brought in all gelled well as a team wish he was given the money this bloke has spent

Red Bill

Red Bill

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2 hours ago, Robbored said:

I don't usually do requests but as it's you Nogbad...

1) Danny Wilson.

2) Alan Dicks

3) Joe Jordon

4) John Ward

5) Terry Cooper

Based entirely on the way they tried to play the beautiful game.

 

I would tend to go along with that though I might put Terry Cooper a bit higher.

REDOXO

REDOXO

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1 hour ago, Dollymarie said:

Right, I've deleted the personal abuse. Play nice you lot. 

Sigh!...:laugh:!....I missed it all!

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Apart from the abuse

So the bloke that built the team that got us to the promise land is second in some of these lists. Behind the bloke who did'nt have our best striker even on the bench for the play-off final, so when we had to score in the last seconds we threw on Luke Wilkshire...

This bloody board is desperate sometimes.

Dicks 

Cooper

Cotterill 

All the above on achievement in the last 45 years

Followed by 

John Ward

Joe Jordan

Gary Johnson

Again on achievement in a results driven game

 

Swede

Swede

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Its difficult to make comparisons & on what basis?

If it's success then it has to be Dicks but the football was not expansive.

If you want entertaining then its the Wilson era.

For Cotts it would be the sheer belief and winning mentality he brought to the side.

For me it has to be the Gary Johnson era. Getting to the playoff final and the calibre of players we had at the time was marvellous. Who knows what would've happened had we won.

1) Gary Johnson

2) Steve Cotterill

3) Danny Wilson

iamsober

iamsober

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2 hours ago, redmycolour said:

Good luck to the bloke,hope he gets the job at Northampton Town fc,have him back tomorrow, better than what we've got by miles, I know not this again,

exactly so why start it. Boring

Lew-T

Lew-T

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2 hours ago, Robbored said:

Cotterill was ok but not in my list of favourite City managers.

You are a fraud.

Ska Junkie

Ska Junkie

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Dicks. For obvious reasons 

Cooper. Saved the club and played good stuff. Wembley as well.

Johnson G. Five great years and got so close.

Jordan. First time around was really good.

Wilson. Entertaining if ultimate failure.

Sir Colby-Tit

Sir Colby-Tit

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Surprised Harry Thickett hasn't been mentioned. 

Promoted City to top flight, and achieved a second place finish.  Won 14 league games in a row and got us to the FA Cup Final. 

Not too shabby! 

Ska Junkie

Ska Junkie

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3 minutes ago, Sir Colby-Tit said:

Surprised Harry Thickett hasn't been mentioned. 

Promoted City to top flight, and achieved a second place finish.  Won 14 league games in a row and got us to the FA Cup Final. 

Not too shabby! 

A bit before my time Sir CT. Dicks is the first City boss of my time following the club.

Guest

Guest

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Makes me laugh the football was 'bad' under GJ. I found it rather exciting.

-Sproule and McIndoe got me off my seat plenty,

-JMC was an excellent player then imo

-enjoyed Adebolas battles and channel work,

-Orr's passion and drive 

- Carle I really took to in his time here, noble trundle each provided moments.

See what you want. I saw an excellent unit, playing good counter attacking football, throwing bodies on the line. It was played on the deck plenty. It's nonsense to suggest otherwise. 

GrahamC

GrahamC

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6 minutes ago, Robbored said:

Not at all.

He got the team feeding the Goat......

So that was after he signed Julian Watts as our Championship standard centre back and Carl Hutchings as a Championship standard midfielder with Steve Torpey up front, was it?

He was lucky to inherit Goater but like his mentor Graham Taylor, he was a long ball merchant.

You really don't have the first clue what you are watching, do you?

EmersonsRed

EmersonsRed

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2 hours ago, Dollymarie said:

Right, I've deleted the personal abuse. Play nice you lot. 

Hi Dolly, appreciate the good work you do, but was me saying: "If you love him so much OP, why do you spell his name incorrectly" "personal abuse"?

 

I really don't see it that way. 

 

Strictly Obi

Strictly Obi

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3 hours ago, redmycolour said:

Good luck to the bloke,hope he gets the job at Northampton Town fc,have him back tomorrow, better than what we've got by miles, I know not this again,

Yes it would appear Cotterell has found his level! 

Robbored

Robbored

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5 minutes ago, GrahamC said:

So that was after he signed Julian Watts as our Championship standard centre back and Carl Hutchings as a Championship standard midfielder with Steve Torpey up front, was it?

He was lucky to inherit Goater but like his mentor Graham Taylor, he was a long ball merchant.

That's not how I remember JW. Admittedly the resources at his disposal were very limited but imv he got the best out of what was largely a poor squad.

He got us promoted but it proved a step to far for him - something he freely admitted to 

Dollymarie

Dollymarie

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20 minutes ago, EmersonsRed said:

Hi Dolly, appreciate the good work you do, but was me saying: "If you love him so much OP, why do you spell his name incorrectly" "personal abuse"?

 

I really don't see it that way. 

 

I deleted a bunch of posts whilst on my phone. Yours was fairly mild I'd agree, but was "under the attack the post, not the poster" forum rule. Hope that clears things up. 

David Brent

David Brent

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41 minutes ago, Sir Colby-Tit said:

Surprised Harry Thickett hasn't been mentioned. 

Promoted City to top flight, and achieved a second place finish.  Won 14 league games in a row and got us to the FA Cup Final. 

Not too shabby! 

Yes, but did his team try to play the "beautiful game"?...

Robbored

Robbored

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30 minutes ago, Dollymarie said:

I deleted a bunch of posts whilst on my phone. Yours was fairly mild I'd agree, but was "under the attack the post, not the poster" forum rule. Hope that clears things up. 

No need to protect me Dolls. I've heard it all before.

That said the standard of insults these days has really deteriorated . It's all very disappointing......:facepalm:

RedLionLad

RedLionLad

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1 hour ago, Robbored said:

No need to protect me Dolls. I've heard it all before.

That said the standard of insults these days has really deteriorated . It's all very disappointing......:facepalm:

Have you any idea as to why you've heard it all before?

Robbored

Robbored

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6 minutes ago, RedLionLad said:

Have you any idea as to why you've heard it all before?

Of course!

What a daft question...................:facepalm:

Major Isewater

Major Isewater

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6 hours ago, havanatopia said:

There was me thinking this was a thread about Steve Cotterill; I must be daft as a brush. 

Steady with the insults H . You should attack your post not yourself .

 I feel a ban coming up for you young man. 

poland_exile

poland_exile

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back to the top managers. ok, i realize he had his faults, but the dennis smith era saw us play some immensely enjoyable football. That frontline of Jacki, Leroy, Cole was awesome to watch and some of the games live in the memory to this day: the demolition of cardiff, jacki's brace in stoppage time against wolves, the six goal thriller / riot against pompey, the 4-3 away at derby, etc. a real buzz watching city at times. 

RobintheRed Red

RobintheRed Red

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11 hours ago, poland_exile said:

back to the top managers. ok, i realize he had his faults, but the dennis smith era saw us play some immensely enjoyable football. That frontline of Jacki, Leroy, Cole was awesome to watch and some of the games live in the memory to this day: the demolition of cardiff, jacki's brace in stoppage time against wolves, the six goal thriller / riot against pompey, the 4-3 away at derby, etc. a real buzz watching city at times. 

Yes but was at a pub in old market Eagle tavern when he first came to us he said im signing a centre half from Millwall Thomson he said we wont need a goalkeeper hes that good  biggest load of crap centre half wise weve ever seen

One BCFC

One BCFC

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I didnt find GJ's football exciting at all. Maybe a few were blinkered with the fact we were getting 1-0 wins at the time in 07/08. Not saying he didnt do well with that team.

However, he was the start of 6 years of utter crap from City, poor negative football with average journeymen players, so yes I blame him largely for our slow demise back to L1 at the time. Unpopular opinion for City fans, but GJ was overrated, he is a lower league version of Harry Redknapp, has no long term plan.

 

Danny Wilson we played excellent football and was a mere opposite to GJ, simply couldnt get the job done. One thing he did which GJ didnt was actually give our youngsters a chance as well. Terrific football was played it must be said.

Stevie Cotterill was a mix of both of them I'd say, was far better than both in my opinion. 

eardun

eardun

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10 hours ago, BA14 RED said:

Danny Wilson we played excellent football and was a mere opposite to GJ, simply couldnt get the job done. One thing he did which GJ didnt was actually give our youngsters a chance as well. Terrific football was played it must be said.

Apart from Lita in the play off final of course. I'll get over that match one day!

chinapig

chinapig

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10 hours ago, BA14 RED said:

I didnt find GJ's football exciting at all. Maybe a few were blinkered with the fact we were getting 1-0 wins at the time in 07/08. Not saying he didnt do well with that team.

However, he was the start of 6 years of utter crap from City, poor negative football with average journeymen players, so yes I blame him largely for our slow demise back to L1 at the time. Unpopular opinion for City fans, but GJ was overrated, he is a lower league version of Harry Redknapp, has no long term plan.

 

Danny Wilson we played excellent football and was a mere opposite to GJ, simply couldnt get the job done. One thing he did which GJ didnt was actually give our youngsters a chance as well. Terrific football was played it must be said.

Stevie Cotterill was a mix of both of them I'd say, was far better than both in my opinion. 

Danny Wilson spent a fortune - how much would the equivalent of the £600k for Peacock alone be in today's prices? - and failed. GJ got promoted on a shoestring, Wilson having refused to accept the budget cuts that were a consequence of his failure.

As to those young players, the absence of a disciplined, professional culture during that regime played its part in most of them failing to achieve their potential. The likes of Doherty and Coles should have had much better careers and might have done in the right environment, though the ultimate responsibility was theirs of course.

It's curious too how many people have forgotten the kudos we got from the media for the football we played in the play off season.

We have a pretty mediocre history admittedly but by any objective measure GJ was one of our best ever managers.

Portland Bill

Portland Bill

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On 31/08/2017 at 20:41, john from high littleton said:

Yes it would appear Cotterell has found his level! 

Have I missed something? Has he got a managers job at a Championship club? One that will back his transfer targets?

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