Admin Maesknoll Posted September 22, 2017 Admin Posted September 22, 2017 Been really busy, so had a quick log onto the BBC website to see what games were on tonight and the only one showing was a women's game. Are the BBC now so equality driven that professional league games are demoted to sub sections below women's games? I personally have no interest in women's football and I do understand that some do, but I still don't understand why a minority area of a sport takes precedence.
slartibartfast Posted September 22, 2017 Posted September 22, 2017 The other morning on the sports bit on Breakfast I was hoping they would mention City V Stoke....................They started with ******* GIRLS footbal !
Bar BS3 Posted September 22, 2017 Posted September 22, 2017 Surely it's just down to what they have the contractual rights to show..?
Unan Posted September 22, 2017 Posted September 22, 2017 Contracts, what people are most interested in, dash of equality..
And Its Smith Posted September 22, 2017 Posted September 22, 2017 Don’t understand the OP post. They can’t show men’s league games
ZiderEyed Posted September 22, 2017 Posted September 22, 2017 Anything that involves quotas on gender or race boils my piss. No need for it. But as people say, they can't show mens games.
AppyDAZE Posted September 22, 2017 Posted September 22, 2017 The BBC is shit. Although, hold on. It does have its uses. IF you are ever a bit bored and want a good laugh, put on Radio 5 Live and listen to their daily backwards bending to what they feel to be politically correct EVERY focking day they do this. It can be quite entertaining at times
joe jordans teeth Posted September 22, 2017 Posted September 22, 2017 38 minutes ago, Maesknoll Red said: Been really busy, so had a quick log onto the BBC website to see what games were on tonight and the only one showing was a women's game. Are the BBC now so equality driven that professional league games are demoted to sub sections below women's games? I personally have no interest in women's football and I do understand that some do, but I still don't understand why a minority area of a sport takes precedence. Be having people protesting outside your house with comments like that
TheCulturalBomb Posted September 22, 2017 Posted September 22, 2017 8 minutes ago, AppyDAZE said: The BBC is shit. Although, hold on. It does have its uses. IF you are ever a bit bored and want a good laugh, put on Radio 5 Live and listen to their daily backwards bending to what they feel to be politically correct EVERY focking day they do this. It can be quite entertaining at times Facebook has 71 different gender options. GENDER OPTIONS. Mental.
joe jordans teeth Posted September 22, 2017 Posted September 22, 2017 11 minutes ago, AppyDAZE said: The BBC is shit. Although, hold on. It does have its uses. IF you are ever a bit bored and want a good laugh, put on Radio 5 Live and listen to their daily backwards bending to what they feel to be politically correct EVERY focking day they do this. It can be quite entertaining at times Radio 5 is complete bull,you start off with Nicky Campbell who let's be honest is a total left winger and doesn't carry off being neutral very well,the woman on the station are not to bad to be honest
reddoh Posted September 22, 2017 Posted September 22, 2017 14 minutes ago, TheCulturalBomb said: Facebook has 71 different gender options. GENDER OPTIONS. Mental. can anyone tell me which one I am ?
AppyDAZE Posted September 22, 2017 Posted September 22, 2017 8 minutes ago, joe jordans teeth said: Radio 5 is complete bull,you start off with Nicky Campbell who let's be honest is a total left winger and doesn't carry off being neutral very well,the woman on the station are not to bad to be honest That doesn't bother me, it's just the overall smarmy, cleverer-than-you way he has. and DON'T get me on that woman's (whoever it is) croaky voice.. BUT, it don't have all those annoying ads Talksport has
joe jordans teeth Posted September 22, 2017 Posted September 22, 2017 4 minutes ago, reddoh said: can anyone tell me which one I am ? Nobody's knows,if you let us know Facebook can change it 72 gender options
AppyDAZE Posted September 22, 2017 Posted September 22, 2017 20 minutes ago, TheCulturalBomb said: Facebook has 71 different gender options. GENDER OPTIONS. Mental. I'm counting (genders) and i'm up to 2.. TBH i'm stuck HELP!
AppyDAZE Posted September 22, 2017 Posted September 22, 2017 31 minutes ago, ZiderEyed said: Anything that involves quotas on gender or race boils my piss. No need for it. But as people say, they can't show mens games. Zider, why in 2017 are you still "boiling" your piss.. ain't you got a microwave oven?
AppyDAZE Posted September 22, 2017 Posted September 22, 2017 5 minutes ago, joe jordans teeth said: im up to 3 Trans or whatever the term is, i'll give you that... but i'm ****** if there is a fourth, fifth etc
TheCulturalBomb Posted September 22, 2017 Posted September 22, 2017 15 minutes ago, AppyDAZE said: I'm counting (genders) and i'm up to 2.. TBH i'm stuck HELP! I'd count transgender for sure, describes a bunch of people and how they want to be which is fair enough. Good for them. But the rest I have no idea what they are on about or describe.. Two-Spirit and Non-Binary...? PC gone mad.
Marina's Rolls Royce Posted September 22, 2017 Posted September 22, 2017 I'm a white middle of the road, middle class, middle aged heterosexual. And a football fan supporting BCFC. I've no chance in life any more.
Robbored Posted September 22, 2017 Posted September 22, 2017 I quite like the BBC. It's my default channel.. They're sports coverage is shite of course simply because they don't have the financial clout of BT or Sky but they produce some top class dramas. The Night Manager springs to mind as does Line of Duty.Their historical programmes are excellent. The factual ones and costume dramas. All that said the Beeb do see themselves as the nations moral guardian and and representatives of every minority group. Their annual fee is non negotiable - even if you don't watch the BBC so they have to be above and beyond reproach.
Highburnred Posted September 22, 2017 Posted September 22, 2017 I believe that the op is saying that he went on the BBC website to look at the fixtures for tonight, not what the BBC are showing on TV
ZiderEyed Posted September 22, 2017 Posted September 22, 2017 36 minutes ago, AppyDAZE said: Zider, why in 2017 are you still "boiling" your piss.. ain't you got a microwave oven? I've still got a chamberpot-to-kettle system, really need to modernise one of these days, but you can't fault it.
Hellfire Corner Posted September 22, 2017 Posted September 22, 2017 47 minutes ago, joe jordans teeth said: Radio 5 is complete bull,you start off with Nicky Campbell who let's be honest is a total left winger and doesn't carry off being neutral very well,the woman on the station are not to bad to be honest I think he's more of a left wing back!
Admin Ian M Posted September 22, 2017 Admin Posted September 22, 2017 37 minutes ago, AppyDAZE said: Trans or whatever the term is, i'll give you that... but i'm ****** if there is a fourth, fifth etc There's hermaphrodites too (born with both sets of bits). Learnt that from Eminem back in the 90s.
AppyDAZE Posted September 22, 2017 Posted September 22, 2017 13 minutes ago, Hellfire Corner said: I think he's more of a left wing back! Loves to bomb on, Nicky Campbell
Bar BS3 Posted September 22, 2017 Posted September 22, 2017 24 minutes ago, Marina's Rolls Royce said: I'm a white middle of the road, middle class, middle aged heterosexual. And a football fan supporting BCFC. I've no chance in life any more. Don't forget that you are English as well. You do realise that makes you a racist, sexist, homophobic, drunken thug..?!
Bar BS3 Posted September 22, 2017 Posted September 22, 2017 8 minutes ago, Ian M said: There's hermaphrodites too (born with both sets of bits). Learnt that from Eminem back in the 90s. Please let Eminem translate to "mirror" in some language, somewhere..!
Rudolf Hucker Posted September 22, 2017 Posted September 22, 2017 1 hour ago, reddoh said: can anyone tell me which one I am ? Nope.
Rudolf Hucker Posted September 22, 2017 Posted September 22, 2017 12 minutes ago, Ian M said: There's hermaphrodites too (born with both sets of bits). I don't think I'd ever find time to go out of the house.
Bar BS3 Posted September 22, 2017 Posted September 22, 2017 3 minutes ago, Rudolf Hucker said: I don't think I'd ever find time to go out of the house. Because you'd be too busy washing & ironing and then doing the DIY..?
Rudolf Hucker Posted September 22, 2017 Posted September 22, 2017 4 minutes ago, Bar BS3 said: Because you'd be too busy washing & ironing and then doing the DIY..? No. Nothing like that
Bar BS3 Posted September 22, 2017 Posted September 22, 2017 3 minutes ago, Rudolf Hucker said: No. Nothing like that Would it make you good at multi-tasking, or useless..? What a cruel irony that would be! Having female genitalia as well, but having the male inability to multitask..!
Red Skin Posted September 22, 2017 Posted September 22, 2017 1 hour ago, AppyDAZE said: That doesn't bother me, it's just the overall smarmy, cleverer-than-you way he has. Yep, feel the same. Sheila Forgarty used to keep him check when she was on with him though.
WTFiGO!?! Posted September 22, 2017 Posted September 22, 2017 45 minutes ago, Rudolf Hucker said: I don't think I'd ever find time to go out of the house. Hatrazine Frogs find the same... there's currently a lot of moral and social outrage because a small minority are claiming equal rights for heterosexual and single-gendered frogs.
joe jordans teeth Posted September 23, 2017 Posted September 23, 2017 1 hour ago, Marina's Rolls Royce said: I'm a white middle of the road, middle class, middle aged heterosexual. And a football fan supporting BCFC. I've no chance in life any more. Your a weirdo
WayOutWest Posted September 23, 2017 Posted September 23, 2017 2 hours ago, reddoh said: can anyone tell me which one I am ? Hope this helps
Son of Fred Posted September 23, 2017 Posted September 23, 2017 3 hours ago, AppyDAZE said: The BBC is shit. Although, hold on. It does have its uses. IF you are ever a bit bored and want a good laugh, put on Radio 5 Live and listen to their daily backwards bending to what they feel to be politically correct EVERY focking day they do this. It can be quite entertaining at times World Service is only worthwhile thing they do imo-almost as shambolic an organization as the FA!
Son of Fred Posted September 23, 2017 Posted September 23, 2017 2 hours ago, Rudolf Hucker said: I don't think I'd ever find time to go out of the house. Would cost you a fortune in shower gel................
Fordy62 Posted September 23, 2017 Posted September 23, 2017 7 hours ago, Maesknoll Red said: Been really busy, so had a quick log onto the BBC website to see what games were on tonight and the only one showing was a women's game. Are the BBC now so equality driven that professional league games are demoted to sub sections below women's games? I personally have no interest in women's football and I do understand that some do, but I still don't understand why a minority area of a sport takes precedence. Funnily enough I thought the same thing yesterday evening. I just wanted to check the FGR vs Swindon score and had to click a load of buttons to get past the WPL score. Part of me wonders whether they're trying to over compensate for the much higher wages their paying Gary Linekar & Chris Evans versus their female stars.
RedM Posted September 23, 2017 Posted September 23, 2017 1 hour ago, Fordy62 said: Funnily enough I thought the same thing yesterday evening. I just wanted to check the FGR vs Swindon score and had to click a load of buttons to get past the WPL score. Part of me wonders whether they're trying to over compensate for the much higher wages their paying Gary Linekar & Chris Evans versus their female stars. It's always the same when a person or organisation has been reprimanded for doing something wrong or inappropriate, they overcompensate and end up too far in the other direction. Which in my view is equally as bad. Just report what needs to be reported, a league one match should take priority over Ladies football just like the Uber cab decision should take priority over the latest Trump outburst.
Negan Posted September 23, 2017 Posted September 23, 2017 8 hours ago, reddoh said: can anyone tell me which one I am ? There are 2 mate and that’s it. If you’ve got a cock you’re a bloke, chesticles and you’re a woman. The worlds gone mad. Part of me hopes god is real, pops his head down and says that’s it, enough is enough time to stop this freak show of a planet.
Red Army 75 Posted September 23, 2017 Posted September 23, 2017 Dont even watch MOTD no more . And as for the so called comedy ( pathetic). Can't believe we still got to pay our licence fee . What we paying for .
Redinthehead Posted September 23, 2017 Posted September 23, 2017 They have some rights to it, so they'll promote it as much as they can. Similar to how Sky are happy to downplay the FA cup as they don't have rights. You pay your license fee to have a media source independent of corporate influence - but that's one for the non-football forum
Marina's Rolls Royce Posted September 23, 2017 Posted September 23, 2017 9 hours ago, Bar BS3 said: Don't forget that you are English as well. You do realise that makes you a racist, sexist, homophobic, drunken thug..?! Funny comment but there is a grain of truth in the fact that average and normal is the new subversive.
Bar BS3 Posted September 23, 2017 Posted September 23, 2017 10 minutes ago, Marina's Rolls Royce said: Funny comment but there is a grain of truth in the fact that average and normal is the new subversive. Average & normal is deemed offensive by the growing number of alternatives. The world has gone ####ing mad. Let people do & be who they want to be, but at least let that apply to those who are "Average & normal" aswell..!
Robbored Posted September 23, 2017 Posted September 23, 2017 1 hour ago, Red Army 75 said: Dont even watch MOTD no more . And as for the so called comedy ( pathetic). Can't believe we still got to pay our licence fee . What we paying for . MOTD is amateur compared to Sky's football programs. I sometimes catch it early Sunday morning but by accident rather than design. Comedy is a subjective issue. Peter Kay's Car Share was brilliant and going back in time so was Only fools and horses and even further back, Porridge and the Good Life. For every comedy that you like they'll be another that you'll find another that's about as unfunny as it gets. Some of the BBC dramas are top drawer as I said earlier. The remake of Poldark for example.
Red Army 75 Posted September 23, 2017 Posted September 23, 2017 14 minutes ago, Robbored said: MOTD is amateur compared to Sky's football programs. I sometimes catch it early Sunday morning but by accident rather than design. Comedy is a subjective issue. Peter Kay's Car Share was brilliant and going back in time so was Only fools and horses and even further back, Porridge and the Good Life. For every comedy that you like they'll be another that you'll find another that's about as unfunny as it gets. Some of the BBC dramas are top drawer as I said earlier. The remake of Poldark for example. Enjoyed the comedy's u mentioned. The nature programmes are good. But the football coverage is poor. I don't mind paying for my sky sports subscription . Excellent coverage
Admin Maesknoll Posted September 23, 2017 Author Admin Posted September 23, 2017 12 hours ago, RedDave said: Don’t understand the OP post. They can’t show men’s league games The BBC website sports homepage - usually lists what games are on that day. The games shown are usually the most senior, i.e. Internationals if on, then Champions league if on, Premier league etc. You then have to use the drop down to see the leagues below. Last night the only game visible was Everton v Liverpool women's football, so I assumed their was no professional men's games last night - using the long standing hierarchy system that they have used on this site. But apparently not, it now seems that women's football takes precedent over lower league games. I personally think that this is PC/equality gone mad. Hope this explains it to you.
Admin Maesknoll Posted September 23, 2017 Author Admin Posted September 23, 2017 12 hours ago, joe jordans teeth said: Radio 5 is complete bull,you start off with Nicky Campbell who let's be honest is a total left winger and doesn't carry off being neutral very well,the woman on the station are not to bad to be honest Nicky Campbell is an icon of impartiality compared to the hand wringing liberal in the afternoons... Nihal Athanayake Banal more than Nihal.... But, that's wandering from the original topic. The BBC are pushing women's football and now reporting it as if was on an equal footing popularity wise, with the men's game.
Robbored Posted September 23, 2017 Posted September 23, 2017 7 minutes ago, Maesknoll Red said: The BBC website sports homepage - usually lists what games are on that day. The games shown are usually the most senior, i.e. Internationals if on, then Champions league if on, Premier league etc. You then have to use the drop down to see the leagues below. Last night the only game visible was Everton v Liverpool women's football, so I assumed their was no professional men's games last night - using the long standing hierarchy system that they have used on this site. But apparently not, it now seems that women's football takes precedent over lower league games. I personally think that this is PC/equality gone mad. Hope this explains it to you. That was because the BBC were covering the game and simply wanted users to know. Why would they put a game that a rival were showing above their own in the listings ot their own site? Having zero interest in women's football I watched the dreadful League 2 game between FGR and Swindon. I daresay the women's game was of better quality.
The Dolman Pragmatist Posted September 23, 2017 Posted September 23, 2017 Here are the Facebook gender options: Agender Androgyne Androgynes Androgynous Asexual Bigender Cis Cis Female Cis Male Cis Man Cis Woman Cisgender Cisgender Female Cisgender Male Cisgender Man Cisgender Woman F2M Female to Male Female to male trans man Female to male transgender man Female to male transsexual man FTM Gender Fluid Gender neutral Gender Nonconforming Gender Questioning Gender Variant Genderqueer Hermaphrodite Intersex Intersex man Intersex person Intersex woman M2F Male to Female Male to female trans woman Male to female transgender woman Male to female transsexual woman Man MTF Neither Neutrois Non-binary Other Pangender Polygender T* man T* woman Trans Trans Female Trans Male Trans Man Trans Person Trans*Female Trans*Male Trans*Man Trans*Person Trans*Woman Transexual Transexual Female Transexual Male Transexual Man Transexual Person Transexual Woman Transgender Female Transgender Person Transmasculine Two* person Two-spirit Two-spirit person Woman
Lanterne Rouge Posted September 23, 2017 Posted September 23, 2017 12 minutes ago, The Dolman Pragmatist said: Here are the Facebook gender options: Agender Androgyne Androgynes Androgynous Asexual Bigender Cis Cis Female Cis Male Cis Man Cis Woman Cisgender Cisgender Female Cisgender Male Cisgender Man Cisgender Woman F2M Female to Male Female to male trans man Female to male transgender man Female to male transsexual man FTM Gender Fluid Gender neutral Gender Nonconforming Gender Questioning Gender Variant Genderqueer Hermaphrodite Intersex Intersex man Intersex person Intersex woman M2F Male to Female Male to female trans woman Male to female transgender woman Male to female transsexual woman Man MTF Neither Neutrois Non-binary Other Pangender Polygender T* man T* woman Trans Trans Female Trans Male Trans Man Trans Person Trans*Female Trans*Male Trans*Man Trans*Person Trans*Woman Transexual Transexual Female Transexual Male Transexual Man Transexual Person Transexual Woman Transgender Female Transgender Person Transmasculine Two* person Two-spirit Two-spirit person Woman Proof, if any were needed, that the world`s gone ******* mad.
JammyOne Posted September 23, 2017 Posted September 23, 2017 11 minutes ago, The Dolman Pragmatist said: Here are the Facebook gender options: Agender Androgyne Androgynes Androgynous Asexual Bigender Cis Cis Female Cis Male Cis Man Cis Woman Cisgender Cisgender Female Cisgender Male Cisgender Man Cisgender Woman F2M Female to Male Female to male trans man Female to male transgender man Female to male transsexual man FTM Gender Fluid Gender neutral Gender Nonconforming Gender Questioning Gender Variant Genderqueer Hermaphrodite Intersex Intersex man Intersex person Intersex woman M2F Male to Female Male to female trans woman Male to female transgender woman Male to female transsexual woman Man MTF Neither Neutrois Non-binary Other Pangender Polygender T* man T* woman Trans Trans Female Trans Male Trans Man Trans Person Trans*Female Trans*Male Trans*Man Trans*Person Trans*Woman Transexual Transexual Female Transexual Male Transexual Man Transexual Person Transexual Woman Transgender Female Transgender Person Transmasculine Two* person Two-spirit Two-spirit person Woman What my gender? trans-microbial-semi-nonbinary-pan-transgender-cis-doubledecker-bus Society isn't inclusive enough and needs to change. I'm being misgendered!
And Its Smith Posted September 23, 2017 Posted September 23, 2017 1 hour ago, Maesknoll Red said: The BBC website sports homepage - usually lists what games are on that day. The games shown are usually the most senior, i.e. Internationals if on, then Champions league if on, Premier league etc. You then have to use the drop down to see the leagues below. Last night the only game visible was Everton v Liverpool women's football, so I assumed their was no professional men's games last night - using the long standing hierarchy system that they have used on this site. But apparently not, it now seems that women's football takes precedent over lower league games. I personally think that this is PC/equality gone mad. Hope this explains it to you. Or you just missed it
And Its Smith Posted September 23, 2017 Posted September 23, 2017 28 minutes ago, Red Right Hand said: Proof, if any were needed, that the world`s gone ******* mad. Why do you care?
And Its Smith Posted September 23, 2017 Posted September 23, 2017 Lots of threatened men on this thread, Live and let live.
cider-manc Posted September 23, 2017 Posted September 23, 2017 15 minutes ago, RedDave said: Or you just missed it 15 minutes ago, RedDave said: Lots of threatened men on this thread, Live and let live. I went to check the scores last night on my phone and whereas it usually has the live score of the highest level on the home page (you can then select "more" and pick the division you are after) it had the women's game. I don't think it's unfair to suggest that most would consider the men's game the higher level, so if like last night the only live score on their homepage is a women's game most would assume there is no mens game on. I would also hazard a guess that there was more interest in afc Wimbledon vs mk dons and forest Green v Swindon. The women's game is at an interesting point in its development. People will argue that it's standard and audience do not currently deserve the level of media attention it receives. But it without this media attention it is unlikely to ever improve its standard or its audience.
And Its Smith Posted September 23, 2017 Posted September 23, 2017 29 minutes ago, cider-manc said: I went to check the scores last night on my phone and whereas it usually has the live score of the highest level on the home page (you can then select "more" and pick the division you are after) it had the women's game. I don't think it's unfair to suggest that most would consider the men's game the higher level, so if like last night the only live score on their homepage is a women's game most would assume there is no mens game on. I would also hazard a guess that there was more interest in afc Wimbledon vs mk dons and forest Green v Swindon. The women's game is at an interesting point in its development. People will argue that it's standard and audience do not currently deserve the level of media attention it receives. But it without this media attention it is unlikely to ever improve its standard or its audience. It needs the media attention to grow it and it should happen. Amazing how much it winds people up. Someone i know was angry that england women were televised the other night. Bizarre thing to get angry about
Esmond Million's Bung Posted September 23, 2017 Posted September 23, 2017 16 hours ago, Maesknoll Red said: Been really busy, so had a quick log onto the BBC website to see what games were on tonight and the only one showing was a women's game. Are the BBC now so equality driven that professional league games are demoted to sub sections below women's games? I personally have no interest in women's football and I do understand that some do, but I still don't understand why a minority area of a sport takes precedence. Ironic really is this same wonderful organisation that pays women shit wages in comparison to their male counterparts?.
Red-Robbo Posted September 23, 2017 Posted September 23, 2017 15 hours ago, joe jordans teeth said: Radio 5 is complete bull,you start off with Nicky Campbell who let's be honest is a total left winger and doesn't carry off being neutral very well,the woman on the station are not to bad to be honest You've obviously never met him!
Bar BS3 Posted September 23, 2017 Posted September 23, 2017 2 hours ago, RedDave said: Why do you care? 2 hours ago, RedDave said: Lots of threatened men on this thread, Live and let live. Sounds like someone's in the middle of a cock-swap.
And Its Smith Posted September 23, 2017 Posted September 23, 2017 2 minutes ago, Bar BS3 said: Sounds like someone's in the middle of a cock-swap. typical response from you
Bar BS3 Posted September 23, 2017 Posted September 23, 2017 4 minutes ago, RedDave said: typical response from you Really? Typical in which way? I don't believe it's a subject I discuss very much, so I'm not sure that I have a "typical" response.
Admin Maesknoll Posted September 23, 2017 Author Admin Posted September 23, 2017 2 hours ago, RedDave said: Or you just missed it Missed what? The explanation was simple, I was in a rush and wrongly assumed that there was no professional league football on last night. Never before have I seen women's or non league football displayed and the professional men's games in the drop down menu. Not sure what I am supposed to have missed?
And Its Smith Posted September 23, 2017 Posted September 23, 2017 1 hour ago, Bar BS3 said: Really? Typical in which way? I don't believe it's a subject I discuss very much, so I'm not sure that I have a "typical" response. Sorry must have you mixed up with another person who hates people living their lives
Bar BS3 Posted September 23, 2017 Posted September 23, 2017 26 minutes ago, RedDave said: Sorry must have you mixed up with another person who hates people living their lives Yes, you must have!
joe jordans teeth Posted September 23, 2017 Posted September 23, 2017 1 hour ago, Red-Robbo said: You've obviously never met him! Funny enough I have
Red-Robbo Posted September 23, 2017 Posted September 23, 2017 30 minutes ago, joe jordans teeth said: Funny enough I have He's slightly to the right of Genghis Khan. Notorious among people who work with him.
joeyb Posted September 23, 2017 Posted September 23, 2017 I think they need to separate the two and have a football page for men and a separate one for women's. The number of times I see an interesting sounding article only to find out its about England women's team or the "WSL" really gets me down. Real equality would be having their own designated page. Same with cricket.
Admin Maesknoll Posted September 23, 2017 Author Admin Posted September 23, 2017 5 hours ago, Red-Robbo said: He's slightly to the right of Genghis Khan. Notorious among people who work with him. I always thought he was one of the best on R5 at being neutral, although Tony Livsey is decent at it as well. If that is true about Campbell, it doesn't surprise me having listened to him for many, many hours. ( I'm not a fan of TV and hate commercial radio, so that pretty much leaves R5 and test match special to listen to).
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