Worth a punt....

[spudski]

....Cole Skuse being here next season

That would surely cause even more divide amongst the masses :laugh:....just a hunch :-)

http://www.eadt.co.uk/sport/ipswich-town-midfielder-cole-skuse-doesn-t-know-if-the-club-wants-to-keep-him-beyond-next-summer-1-5214198

 

https://www.bcfc.co.uk/news/skuse-is-a-great-human-johnson/

[!james]

Quote

Who knows what’s going to happen for me here and who knows where he’s going to happen for him? It could be that I play for him at Bath City or Forest Green Rovers in four or five years time!”

Made me laugh.

[Fordy62]

Human? What a ridiculous choice of word. 

[Monkeh]

5 minutes ago, spudski said:

....Cole Skuse being here next season

That would surely cause even more divide amongst the masses :laugh:....just a hunch :-)

http://www.eadt.co.uk/sport/ipswich-town-midfielder-cole-skuse-doesn-t-know-if-the-club-wants-to-keep-him-beyond-next-summer-1-5214198

 

https://www.bcfc.co.uk/news/skuse-is-a-great-human-johnson/

no disrespect to skuse but I'd be hoping we'd be looking at a better central midfielder then him or we'll be relegated after our first season in the prem

[Port Said Red]

5 minutes ago, spudski said:

....Cole Skuse being here next season

That would surely cause even more divide amongst the masses :laugh:....just a hunch :-)

http://www.eadt.co.uk/sport/ipswich-town-midfielder-cole-skuse-doesn-t-know-if-the-club-wants-to-keep-him-beyond-next-summer-1-5214198

 

https://www.bcfc.co.uk/news/skuse-is-a-great-human-johnson/

Certainly someone who would set a good example for youngsters, he appears to be a model professional, I can't remember him ever giving us a hint of trouble. 

[exAtyeoMax]

3 minutes ago, Monkeh said:

no disrespect to skuse but I'd be hoping we'd be looking at a better central midfielder then him or we'll be relegated after our first season in the prem

[Phileas Fogg]

Good suggestion. Can see him being a coach here one day at the very least, I assume he'll move back.

He can also play right back.. maybe that'll be a potential use for him.

[elhombrecito]

A Bristol City human? 

[Port Said Red]

5 minutes ago, El Hombrecito said:

A Bristol City human? 

Right DNA 

[Robbored]

I'd love to Skuse back at City either as a coach or a player and it seems like he's mates with LJ so either/both are likely.

Plus he's a local lad so it all adds up.

[spudski]

4 minutes ago, Phileas Fogg said:

Good suggestion. Can see him being a coach here one day at the very least, I assume he'll move back.

He can also play right back.. maybe that'll be a potential use for him.

Can see him being part of the squad easily.

Why is my head saying he'll be here next season and Jens will be gone.....aaaaaarghhhhhh I hope not. You know that gut feeling you get....

9 minutes ago, Fordy62 said:

Human? What a ridiculous choice of word. 

I know it's ridiculous, and tbh, it's a phrase that is starting to be used a lot in 'corporate' speak.

The Ski federation I'm affiliated to as a Coach has started using it as well.... such as....'Introducing another Human of the CSIA Alberta, ( said Coach ) teaches out of Lake Louise and has been coaching for 7 seasons' etc,etc.....

I'm wondering whether it's to do will all this LBGT nonsense.

As in don't presume my Gender...

[ZiderEyed]

6 minutes ago, Robbored said:

I'd love to Skuse back at City either as a coach or a player and it seems like he's mates with LJ so either/both are likely.

Plus he's a local lad so it all adds up.

I think theres a big emphasis about people being local. Not League of Gentleman local, but buying in to the identity of Bristol and the south-west local. In the DNA speech, I think it might've been SL that said he wants to see a youth academy producing local, homegrown talents.

I think he'll be back in some form or another one day.

[Lew-T]

Job for the boys.

[Phileas Fogg]

12 minutes ago, Lew-T said:

Job for the boys.

Not always a bad thing. Good to have people that know and understand the club. If they've got the right skills and buy into the mentality here it's a positive to have people that care about the club.

[Robbored]

25 minutes ago, JamesBCFC said:

You're taking up a lot of interest in ex-City employees today.

Skuse is still a classy player and he's a local.

[Shtanley]

He can replace Hegeler and O’Neil for a fraction of the wages 

[Robbored]

8 minutes ago, Phileas Fogg said:

Not always a bad thing. Good to have people that know and understand the club. If they've got the right skills and buy into the mentality here it's a positive to have people that care about the club.

Absolutely right PF. 

Seems like Lew doesn't get that.............

[Tom193]

7 minutes ago, Shtanley said:

He can replace Hegeler and O’Neil for a fraction of the wages 

Exactly what I was thinking. 

[Ealing Robin]

Does seem a logical choice to replace O'neil as that experienced midfielder in the squad, and as stated previously would imagine he would be a lot cheaper. All for this signing next summer.

[Lew-T]

19 minutes ago, Robbored said:

Absolutely right PF. 

Seems like Lew doesn't get that.............

It was tongue in cheek...

[Robbored]

6 minutes ago, Lew-T said:

It was tongue in cheek...

Trying to dodge a bullet now Lew? 

[Phileas Fogg]

6 minutes ago, Lew-T said:

It was tongue in cheek...

Oh right.. not sure how that can be tongue in cheek but ok

[Jackson Lamb]

No thank you. Contributed to our demise from this league. If we are hoping of becoming contenders in this league, then you need midfielders like Barry Bannan, not Cole Skuse.

[Merrick's Marvels]

 

Photo opps like this don't happen by accident. This is stage managed and intended to tell a story...

 

I will be amazed if he doesn't return in some capacity but when who knows?

[Lew-T]

6 minutes ago, Phileas Fogg said:

Oh right.. not sure how that can be tongue in cheek but ok

Do I have to explain? 

When LJ was appointed, this was said a lot. When Macca was then appointed, this also was said. All very close to home!

 

[Nibor]

Nothing against Cole Skuse but he's not what we need in midfield, we have plenty of unambitious "protect the back four" types.  We need someone who can boss a game and score/create to complement them and he's never done that.

[Septic Peg]

Can defo see Skusey 'coming home' next season if Ipswich don't take up his option. Maybe on a 1 year with optional extra year. 

O'Neil is ooc this summer and I highly doubt he'll be offered anything more. Co-incidentally, I'm now blocked from Gaz on Twitter for taking the Mick about him being a sicknote. Would give Tommy Doc a run for his money in the sicknote stakes!

[Lew-T]

15 minutes ago, Robbored said:

Trying to dodge a bullet now Lew? 

 

[Robbored]

5 minutes ago, Nibor said:

Nothing against Cole Skuse but he's not what we need in midfield, we have plenty of unambitious "protect the back four" types.  We need someone who can boss a game and score/create to complement them and he's never done that.

Not sure he'd come back to AG as a player. As you say the squad has Pack, Hegelar and GoN all comfortable as a defensive midfielder.

All teams are looking for a midfielder to "boss" a game. Few and far between unfortunately.

 

[Robbored]

5 minutes ago, Lew-T said:

 

Nice try Jimmy........................

[Edge1981]

If he came in at the end of the season as O’Neil’s replacement at a fraction of his wages then I think that is a great replacement. Wouldn’t want him to replace Hegeler though. 

[Super]

46 minutes ago, Robbored said:

Skuse is still a classy player and he's a local.

Any he fixes PA systems.

[Jin]

1 hour ago, Phileas Fogg said:

Good suggestion. Can see him being a coach here one day at the very least, I assume he'll move back.

He can also play right back.. maybe that'll be a potential use for him.

I played for the same team as his brother so he used to come down and give us training sessions now and again and he was good at it.

So yes, perhaps he may be interested in moving into coaching after his playing career.

A player MM rates I believe but not sure whether he is better than Smith, Pack or Brownhill? But that's just based on not really seeing him play for Ipswich.

[Fodbarmyarmy]

28 minutes ago, Robbored said:

All teams are looking for a midfielder to "boss" a game. Few and far between unfortunately.

 

Maybe we already have one in the shape of Morrell...  out getting time & experience under his belt ... i liked what i saw of him pre-season although he was usually running around like a headless chicken but he may now just comeback more mature in his game...

[Phileas Fogg]

17 minutes ago, CityLew said:

I played for the same team as his brother so he used to come down and give us training sessions now and again and he was good at it.

So yes, perhaps he may be interested in moving into coaching after his playing career.

A player MM rates I believe but not sure whether he is better than Smith, Pack or Brownhill? But that's just based on not really seeing him play for Ipswich.

I doubt he'll be bought in to be a regular starter - more for experience around the squad with a view to becoming a coach. He is also pretty versatile and we do need players to cover. He can play midfield or right back.

[Harry]

Dear God, No!! 

Believe me when I say, if Skuse returns to this football club I will not be watching. 

Huge backward step. A player that offers absolutely nothing positive. A player that were he not 'local' would've been shipped out years before he was. 

Skuseless. 

[Fordy62]

1 hour ago, Robbored said:

Not sure he'd come back to AG as a player. As you say the squad has Pack, Hegelar and GoN all comfortable as a defensive midfielder.

All teams are looking for a midfielder to "boss" a game. Few and far between unfortunately.

 

NB. If you put any vowel other than 'e' in Jens Hegeler's name, you're guaranteed to have spelt it wrong. 

[Big Red Rich]

14 minutes ago, Harry said:

Dear God, No!! 

Believe me when I say, if Skuse returns to this football club I will not be watching. 

Huge backward step. A player that offers absolutely nothing positive. A player that were he not 'local' would've been shipped out years before he was. 

Skuseless. 

Can you clarify if this is tounge in cheek please? 

[Touch_my_butter]

1 hour ago, Nibor said:

Nothing against Cole Skuse but he's not what we need in midfield, we have plenty of unambitious "protect the back four" types.  We need someone who can boss a game and score/create to complement them and he's never done that.

He wouldn't be signed to be in our '11', but more for our '25'.

Brings far more to the squad/club than just being a player in a position we happen to need.

[exAtyeoMax]

1 hour ago, Merrick's Marvels said:

 

Photo opps like this don't happen by accident. This is stage managed and intended to tell a story...

 

I will be amazed if he doesn't return in some capacity but when who knows?

Is Sir Steve wearing a sporran? 

[cheshire_red]

Excellent footballer, well worth a squad place.

[CyderInACan]

2 hours ago, Lew-T said:

Job for the boys.

Jobs for the humans 

[Major Isewater]

1 hour ago, exAtyeoMax said:

Is Sir Steve wearing a sporran? 

That's his eighties pop. cod piece .

 

[Nogbad the Bad]

3 hours ago, Merrick's Marvels said:

 

Photo opps like this don't happen by accident. This is stage managed and intended to tell a story...

 

I will be amazed if he doesn't return in some capacity but when who knows?

I think you're right.

It seems LJ was always earmarked to return by SL and the same is probably true of Skuse, but with both SL and LJ keen to see him back.

I should hope not as a player though, that would be a ridiculous backward step. Not only had Skuse stagnated horribly on the pitch at AG, but he refused a new contract here, plus we certainly haven't missed him since.

No objection to him returning one day on the coaching side once his playing days are over - if he's genuinely thought good enough - but would be hugely disappointed if he was brought back with a view to playing.

I can quite believe SL would see Skuse as exactly the type to bring in to learn the ropes in the background with a view to possibly taking over from LJ in the future, presuming he has any managerial ambitions of course.

[B1ackbird]

He is Human and he needs to be loved, just like everybody else does....

[Rob k]

4 hours ago, Nibor said:

Nothing against Cole Skuse but he's not what we need in midfield, we have plenty of unambitious "protect the back four" types.  We need someone who can boss a game and score/create to complement them and he's never done that.

Got about 15m going handy?

[CliftonCliff]

6 hours ago, spudski said:

 

Why is my head saying he'll be here next season and Jens will be gone.....aaaaaarghhhhhh I hope not. You know that gut feeling you get....

Always had a lot of time for Skusey, but as the unofficial self-appointed president of the Jens Hegeler Admiration Society I do hope you're wrong about the second part.

[AppyDAZE]

6 hours ago, Fordy62 said:

Human? What a ridiculous choice of word. 

Is he human? or is he dancer?

[AppyDAZE]

14 minutes ago, CliftonCliff said:

Always had a lot of time for Skusey, but as the unofficial self-appointed president of the Jens Hegeler Admiration Society I do hope you're wrong about the second part.

I like Hegeler too

[spudski]

16 minutes ago, CliftonCliff said:

Always had a lot of time for Skusey, but as the unofficial self-appointed president of the Jens Hegeler Admiration Society I do hope you're wrong about the second part.

And there was me thinking I was chief of his fan club :laugh: ;-)

[CliftonCliff]

4 hours ago, Harry said:

Dear God, No!! 

Believe me when I say, if Skuse returns to this football club I will not be watching. 

Huge backward step. A player that offers absolutely nothing positive. A player that were he not 'local' would've been shipped out years before he was. 

Skuseless. 

The problem I have with your very uncompromising view of Skuse, which goes back quite a long way if memory serves, is this. A highly respected and experienced Championship manager has consistently said he has great regard for CS and believes he is good enough to have played PL football. Moreover, he has backed that opinion by making him a permanent member of his first choice starting eleven over several seasons in a team that has comfortably out-performed anything we've produced in the same period, by being for the most part in or around the play-off places during that time.

It seems to me you can't both be right, so do I put my faith in Mick McCarthy's judgement, or yours? Tough call that.

[AppyDAZE]

If only this was the middle of last season and I could say "No thanks, I'm fed up to the teeth of ex-Skuses"

[cidered abroad]

5 hours ago, Phileas Fogg said:

Not always a bad thing. Good to have people that know and understand the club. If they've got the right skills and buy into the mentality here it's a positive to have people that care about the club.

Liverpool coaching and management did very well with that philosophy for many years and Arsenal have done the same with their backroom staff. As long as the one's recruited from our former players, have the correct coaching and management skills, I don't see a problem. 

There have been some diabolical appointments in the past so getting it right will help with the fulfillment of our dreams.  

[CliftonCliff]

3 minutes ago, spudski said:

And there was me thinking I was chief of his fan club ;-)

We can job-share if you like Spudski. I'm an open-hearted sort of guy and there's not exactly a long queue to join. 

[Frenchay Red]

If he's not good enough as a player for Ipswich next season, then why on earth would anyone think he'll be good enough for us. That does not sound like progress to me.

[Busterrimes]

I know this will be controversial but I hope I never see Skuse at AG again. I didn't really rate him. For a DM he never offered any protection to the back four 

[CliftonCliff]

6 minutes ago, Frenchay Red said:

If he's not good enough as a player for Ipswich next season, then why on earth would anyone think he'll be good enough for us. That does not sound like progress to me.

Perfectly fair question. If nothing else, this development adds another element of interest to what is already an intriguing fixture tomorrow. Will be fascinating to see who wins the midfield battle there.

[CliftonCliff]

7 minutes ago, Busterrimes said:

I know this will be controversial but I hope I never see Skuse at AG again. I didn't really rate him. For a DM he never offered any protection to the back four 

No more controversial than a great deal that's gone before. If nothing else Cole certainly divides opinion.

[Phileas Fogg]

14 minutes ago, Frenchay Red said:

If he's not good enough as a player for Ipswich next season, then why on earth would anyone think he'll be good enough for us.

I always think this is a flawed view. Sometimes players just come to the end of their shelf life at a club for various reasons. It depends on the context..

Maybe he doesn’t really want to continue at Ipswich and would like to move. 

I doubt, if it happens, it’s with a view to him being a regular starter. As a cheaper (and more available) midfield backup to O’Neil? I think it makes sense.

[Frenchay Red]

12 minutes ago, Phileas Fogg said:

As a cheaper (and more available) midfield backup to O’Neil? I think it makes sense.

O'Neil's been very disappointing IMO.

I think we need to improve midfield, thus freeing up one or more our existing midfielders as back up.

On the other hand If he's good enough and there's a role for him on the coaching staff then welcome back. But otherwise, no thanks. 

[Frenchay Red]

20 minutes ago, CliftonCliff said:

Perfectly fair question. If nothing else, this development adds another element of interest to what is already an intriguing fixture tomorrow. Will be fascinating to see who wins the midfield battle there.

Indeed, but more to the point who will win the goal scoring battle!

[CliftonCliff]

15 minutes ago, Frenchay Red said:

Indeed, but more to the point who will win the goal scoring battle!

Never like to be negative, but I have a feeling this might be the game that brings our current unbeaten run to an end. Hope I'm wrong. I'd be delighted with a point.

[Frenchay Red]

3 minutes ago, CliftonCliff said:

Never like to be negative, but I have a feeling this might be the game that brings our current unbeaten run to an end. Hope I'm wrong. I'd be delighted with a point.

Oh, I'm always negative and went to Reading and Wolves expecting nothing! So was very happy with a 4 pt. return.

Unable to go tmrw as soaking up the sun in the Canaries, but yes a point would be excellent and reinforce the progress being made.

[robinreliant]

7 hours ago, Lew-T said:

Job for the boys.

I just knew somebody would say it soon.

[Always Believesham]

I've been saying I expect this for a while - he's a player Johnson will trust, managers (particularly one's with less experience) will benefit from having players they trust in the dressing room. I have no objection if he replaced O'Neill who has been less useful than Jody Morris so far - replace another player in our CM contingent (other than possibly Pack) and I'd be less enamoured

[exAtyeoMax]

or is it just because we are rubbish with making up songs? 

[Major Isewater]

28 minutes ago, exAtyeoMax said:

or is it just because we are rubbish with making up songs? 

I think this is the main reason behind our historical  lack of success .

[Lanterne Rouge]

2 hours ago, B1ackbird said:

He is Human and he needs to be loved, just like everybody else does....

He`s only human, of flesh and blood is made.

[RED4LIFE]

To me at least, Cole is what you would call a footballers footballer. Does the stuff that makes his team play better without worrying about personal plaudits. He fills gaps when players get out of position. He wins the ball and gives it to others to create, he gives options to the back four and keeps possesion ticking over. I think his, shall we say, more talented team-mates appreciate him much more than the fans do.

The fact he has been a virtual ever present first-teamer since he was a kid speaks volumes I think.

Anyway, will he improve us? Not sure if he's any better than what we have on the pitch tbh but as a good role model for our younger players I think we would struggle to find better.

[Robbored]

2 hours ago, CliftonCliff said:

Never like to be negative, but I have a feeling this might be the game that brings our current unbeaten run to an end. Hope I'm wrong. I'd be delighted with a point.

I felt exactly the same about the Wolves game.