Shrewsbury Town

[Leveller]

One of our new favourites, for obvious reasons.

Having been born there, I take a passing interest (though I hung round no more than a few days, never to return).

Their present position is impressive and they already look likely to be promoted, though of course it's early days. If they do, they could challenge Burton for the title of the smallest club in the Championship - or replace them. I believe each town has a population of around 72000.

COYS!

[Eddie Hitler]

It's amazing.  If I was to pick a selection of stereotype fourth division clubs then Shrewsbury are there, along with Rochdale, Torquay, Yoork, Halifax, Leyton Orient, Port Vale.

Now half of those are in the conference but Shrewsbury is powering on the Championship.  Outstanding.

[Midlands Robin]

I wonder if promotion would effect their plans for a safe standing area?

[Phantom]

1 minute ago, Midlands Robin said:

I wonder if promotion would effect their plans for a safe standing area?

Not at all

[bcfcredandwhite]

20 minutes ago, Leveller said:

One of our new favourites, for obvious reasons.

Having been born there, I take a passing interest (though I hung round no more than a few days, never to return).

Their present position is impressive and they already look likely to be promoted, though of course it's early days. If they do, they could challenge Burton for the title of the smallest club in the Championship - or replace them. I believe each town has a population of around 72000.

COYS!

Thats nothing!!! - Burnley only have a population of 73k and they yo-yo between the Prem and the Championship - which is better than a lot of bigger places (including us) - I can't remember them being any lower than the top half Championship (and I can't be arsed to google it)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Burnley

 

[Leveller]

5 minutes ago, bcfcredandwhite said:

Thats nothing!!! - Burnley only have a population of 73k and they yo-yo between the Prem and the Championship - which is better than a lot of bigger places (including us) - I can't remember them being any lower than the top half Championship (and I can't be arsed to google it)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Burnley

 

I have to admit I didn't realise Burnley was that small - their tradition is so big.

[Ska Junkie]

15 minutes ago, phantom said:

Not at all

Is there any reason that we can't make the S82 corner safe standing then? Their ground was built recently, as was ours.

[red84]

16 minutes ago, Leveller said:

I have to admit I didn't realise Burnley was that small - their tradition is so big.

I'm led to believe they always take a decent away following too. My work colleague always says he unlikely to get a ticket for an away game for Burnley unless they're playing away to Southampton on a night game!

[Packman]

27 minutes ago, Ska Junkie said:

Is there any reason that we can't make the S82 corner safe standing then? Their ground was built recently, as was ours.

S82 is pretty much standing anyway, I like it how it is tbf. I’m in my thirties now and enjoy the 15 minute rest at half time.

[Port Said Red]

They must be close to matching our start to the season in that league, luckily they don't have Swindon to nick the league off of them in November......... 

[PHILINFRANCE]

53 minutes ago, Leveller said:

I have to admit I didn't realise Burnley was that small - their tradition is so big.

One of my favourite players growing up was their centre forward, Andy Lockhead.

Unfortunately, he had left them by the time Burnley played City.

[Port Said Red]

11 minutes ago, PHILINFRANCE said:

One of my favourite players growing up was their centre forward, Andy Lockhead.

Unfortunately, he had left them by the time Burnley played City.

I am trying to think of the name of the guy they had in midfield in the early 70's a real "stroller type" a bit like Trevor Brooking became later? There was also a bald headed guy (Noble?) who was very good. They were considered a great breeding ground for young players in the late 60's and early 70's. 

EDIT: 

The two guys I was thinking of were Martin Dobson (how could I forget him?) and Ralph Coates. 

[onehowie]

3 minutes ago, Port Said Red said:

I am trying to think of the name of the guy they had in midfield in the early 70's a real "stroller type" a bit like Trevor Brooking became later? There was also a bald headed guy (Noble?) who was very good. They were considered a great breeding ground for young players in the late 60's and early 70's. 

Martin Dobson "stroller type"?

[Port Said Red]

1 minute ago, onehowie said:

Martin Dobson "stroller type"?

See my edit: I used Google!!! 

[onehowie]

2 minutes ago, Port Said Red said:

See my edit: I used Google!!! 

Sorry...didn't see the edit....didn't Dobson play for the Gas?

[Peter O Hanraha-hanrahan]

They've started this season similar to the way Leyton Orient did in our first season back in L1 a few years ago. Obviously Orient fell away as the season went on, lost in the Play Offs and have since been relegated twice.

I hope for their sake Shrewsbury don't suffer such a massive change in fortunes over the next few years. 

Doesn't Shrewsburys new stadium have a bigger capacity than Burtons? Shrews have certainly got more League history and I remember them being a second tier club in the late 80s.

[glynriley]

2 minutes ago, onehowie said:

Sorry...didn't see the edit....didn't Dobson play for the Gas?

Was their manager for 12 glorious games... I liked him!

[Port Said Red]

4 minutes ago, onehowie said:

Sorry...didn't see the edit....didn't Dobson play for the Gas?

 

1 minute ago, glynriley said:

Was their manager for 12 glorious games... I liked him!

That's why I said I should remember him....... 

[Nicki's soulmate]

20 minutes ago, PHILINFRANCE said:

One of my favourite players growing up was their centre forward, Andy Lockhead.

Unfortunately, he had left them by the time Burnley played City.

Lockhead the crophead

[Robbored]

24 minutes ago, PHILINFRANCE said:

One of my favourite players growing up was their centre forward, Andy Lockhead.

Unfortunately, he had left them by the time Burnley played City.

I remember him playing for Villa and Leicester. Good in air was a strength of his.

[Ska Junkie]

29 minutes ago, Peter O Hanraha-hanrahan said:

They've started this season similar to the way Leyton Orient did in our first season back in L1 a few years ago. Obviously Orient fell away as the season went on, lost in the Play Offs and have since been relegated twice.

I hope for their sake Shrewsbury don't suffer such a massive change in fortunes over the next few years. 

Doesn't Shrewsburys new stadium have a bigger capacity than Burtons? Shrews have certainly got more League history and I remember them being a second tier club in the late 80s.

The new meadow is a fair bit bigger than the Pirelli (9875 to 6912) but it's also all seater and can be expanded temporarily or permanently by filling in the corners (I think they did it for a cup game a couple of years ago when they had nigh on 10,300).

Given Burton would have to comply with the 'all seater' criteria if they stay up again, their capacity would drop even further as they still have a lot of terracing.

[cidered abroad]

When I moved to Shrewsbury in 1986, they were in the old Div Two and had a reasonable side. Moysie joined them a year or so later and partnered Pearson at CB. At home to Man City in the league was an experience as any hope of segregation was impossible with Man C fans filling the Gay Meadow. Also sae Arsenal there in League Cup and watching Tony Adams organise his back four was amazing.

First memory of going there was in early Sixties and losing 4-0 to Shrews with Gibbo in goal for them before he joined us.

Really do hope they come up.

[PHILINFRANCE]

25 minutes ago, Port Said Red said:

I am trying to think of the name of the guy they had in midfield in the early 70's a real "stroller type" a bit like Trevor Brooking became later? There was also a bald headed guy (Noble?) who was very good. They were considered a great breeding ground for young players in the late 60's and early 70's. 

EDIT: 

The two guys I was thinking of were Martin Dobson (how could I forget him?) and Ralph Coates. 

I am assuming the 'baldheaded guy' to whom you referred in your edit was the late Ralph Coates, and he was indeed very good; an England international to boot. I remember watching him training at Ashton Gate prior to an England match away to Wales in what was then the Home Championship, and watching/listening him give a right rollocking to the World Cup winner Alan Ball for some perceived fault. Ralph Coates wasn't bald at that time, but wore an amazing 'sweepover' or 'combover' hairstyle, a la Bobby Charlton, and I can still recall the extremely squeaky voice of Alan Ball arguing with RC and taking the proverbial out of his hairstyle.  

Burnley did seem to have some form of conveyor belt for young players in that era; players like Brian Flynn and Frank Casper spring to mind, but also a seemingly endless line of wingers such as the two Willies, Irvine and Morgan, and, of course, the fantastic Leighton James.

Willie Morgan, of course, went on to play for Manchester United (alongside Messrs. Charlton, Best and Law, amongst others) and scored a wonderful goal against Spurs, I think; a chip from outside the box that nestled just under the bar and was shown repeatedly on MOTD or The Big Match.  

 

    

[Port Said Red]

2 minutes ago, PHILINFRANCE said:

I am assuming the 'baldheaded guy' to whom you referred in your edit was the late Ralph Coates, and he was indeed very good; an England international to boot. I remember watching him training at Ashton Gate prior to an England match away to Wales in what was then the Home Championship, and watching/listening him give a right rollocking to the World Cup winner Alan Ball for some perceived fault. Ralph Coates wasn't bald at that time, but wore an amazing 'sweepover' or 'combover' hairstyle, a la Bobby Charlton, and I can still recall the extremely squeaky voice of Alan Ball arguing with RC and taking the proverbial out of his hairstyle.  

Burnley did seem to have some form of conveyor belt for young players in that era; players like Brian Flynn and Frank Casper spring to mind, but also a seemingly endless line of wingers such as the two Willies, Irvine and Morgan, and, of course, the fantastic Leighton James.

Willie Morgan, of course, went on to play for Manchester United (alongside Messrs. Charlton, Best and Law, amongst others) and scored a wonderful goal against Spurs, I think; a chip from outside the box that nestled just under the bar and was shown repeatedly on MOTD or The Big Match.  

 

    

Yes I remembered Coates afterwards (added it in the edit) . I was going to say about wingers, another one was Dave Thomas who was lightning quick and played the dangerous game of rolling his socks down and going without shinpads, I think thats not legal now? There was also Tony Morley.

Do you remember Steve Kindon as well? I think they sold him to Wolves, he was like a juggernaut one minute and like bambi on ice the next>  

[PHILINFRANCE]

Whilst I was never present when this happened, there used to be a man in a coracle outside the ground who would retrieve balls that had been kicked in to the River Severn behind the ground. 

 

[Red-Robbo]

Bloody side are wrecking my chances in the prediction league I'm in. -5 points every week they stay in the L1 top spot. 

I'll set my tom cat on 'em. He makes short work of shrews.

[PHILINFRANCE]

7 minutes ago, Port Said Red said:

Yes I remembered Coates afterwards (added it in the edit) . I was going to say about wingers, another one was Dave Thomas who was lightning quick and played the dangerous game of rolling his socks down and going without shinpads, I think thats not legal now? There was also Tony Morley.

Do you remember Steve Kindon as well? I think they sold him to Wolves, he was like a juggernaut one minute and like bambi on ice the next>  

How interesting.

I remember well all three wingers you mention, although I don't associate any of them with Burnley - obviously a generation thing.

Dave Thomas, he of the rolled down socks as you say, and Tony Morley, were both fine wingers, but, for me, they played respectively for QPR and Aston Villa.

You say that Steve Kindon was sold to Wolves, and, for me, that is how I remember him; a tank of a player.   

 

[Davefevs]

Bryan Flynn - seen him at AG a couple of times last season, think he might scout for Swansea.  He was stood in my parking space having a fag (must’ve stunted his growth!), so he had to move whilst I parked.  Think he was watching Flint....but maybe it was Tammy!

I had the Wales Subbuteo kit, and where one player’s legs had been glued a few times, the player had become shorter.  So he was always Flynn!

[Bazooka Joe]

4-0 up a half-time, without breaking sweat.

Why did they take their foot off the gas?

They should have humiliated them even more.

[Port Said Red]

8 minutes ago, Bazooka Joe said:

4-0 up a half-time, without breaking sweat.

Why did they take their foot off the gas?

They should have humiliated them even more.

Saving themselves for the tougher opponents, like Fleeetwood Town on Saturday. 

[cidered abroad]

52 minutes ago, PHILINFRANCE said:

Whilst I was never present when this happened, there used to be a man in a coracle outside the ground who would retrieve balls that had been kicked in to the River Severn behind the ground. 

 

I saw seven balls go into the river in one match. Bet he was exhausted that night.

[Leveller]

1 hour ago, PHILINFRANCE said:

Whilst I was never present when this happened, there used to be a man in a coracle outside the ground who would retrieve balls that had been kicked in to the River Severn behind the ground. 

 

And in a good year he could row his coracle across the pitch. Presumably the new one doesn't double as a boating lake.

[Lanterne Rouge]

We mustn`t forget our sad association with Shrewsbury. It was Dean Horrix`s last game up there before his tragic accident. A 1-0 win IIRC.

[pongo88]

I’ve always taken an interest in Shrewsbury after watching John Atyeo score 4 second half goals in a 5-1 away win that set up promotion from the old third division. Happy dayd

[Gimme Shelton]

1 hour ago, Red Right Hand said:

We mustn`t forget our sad association with Shrewsbury. It was Dean Horrix`s last game up there before his tragic accident. A 1-0 win IIRC.

That's right, a Dave Smith goal at our end late on. Always remember driving in to Shrewsbury and every car seemed to have City flags and people hanging out of vans, happy days! 

[South Somerset Red]

8 hours ago, Packman said:

S82 is pretty much standing anyway, I like it how it is tbf. I’m in my thirties now and enjoy the 15 minute rest at half time.

Pretty sure safe standing comes with a chair that can be clipped out if needed, only real difference will be having rails to lean on which will be better

[Lanterne Rouge]

2 minutes ago, Gimme Shelton said:

That's right, a Dave Smith goal at our end late on. Always remember driving in to Shrewsbury and every car seemed to have City flags and people hanging out of vans, happy days! 

March 1990. Was that the game where they announced they were keeping the Shrewsbury fans in and letting us out first as we outnumbered them?

[Gimme Shelton]

Don't remember that but wouldn't be surprised! 

[Pickle Rick]

They’ve got a 44 year old goalie on their books. Got to be the oldest registered player in the football league?

[cidered abroad]

12 hours ago, Red Right Hand said:

March 1990. Was that the game where they announced they were keeping the Shrewsbury fans in and letting us out first as we outnumbered them?

I was in with the Shrews fans where I always stood for their games. I let out an ear splitting shout when Smith scored and they all laughed at me.

Larry Lloyd's brother had a pub nearby and he smilingly told me I was barred after the game, but that only lasted ten seconds.

[1960maaan]

On 18/10/2017 at 14:35, Davefevs said:

I had the Wales Subbuteo kit, and where one player’s legs had been glued a few times, the player had become shorter.  So he was always Flynn!

I was just going to ask why but good save with the last bit 

[1960maaan]

19 hours ago, Gimme Shelton said:

That's right, a Dave Smith goal at our end late on. Always remember driving in to Shrewsbury and every car seemed to have City flags and people hanging out of vans, happy days! 

For some reason I thought I was on the side , or did I dream it. We would have been attacking the goal to my right. Did we have the side as well ??

[bristolcitysweden]

Carrying Paul Hurst as well..

[bristolcitysweden]

Watched a game against Bury in their new stadium. Smoking forbidden was a new one but curtains was withdrawn at the pub.

Remember Three Fishes and Boathouse. Great place Shrewsbury.

[YorkshireSection]

19 hours ago, Red Right Hand said:

March 1990. Was that the game where they announced they were keeping the Shrewsbury fans in and letting us out first as we outnumbered them?

I was in my teens and got into a bit of bother, went to school the next day with a black eye, embarrassingly I got elbowed in the eye by a full grown bloke who was stood in front of me wrestling a copper who was more than happy to arrest this gobby young lad, of course I told a slightly different story to my school mates.

RIP Dean Horrix

[YorkshireSection]

On ‎18‎/‎10‎/‎2017 at 11:30, bcfcredandwhite said:

Thats nothing!!! - Burnley only have a population of 73k and they yo-yo between the Prem and the Championship - which is better than a lot of bigger places (including us) - I can't remember them being any lower than the top half Championship (and I can't be arsed to google it)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Burnley

 

Unfortunately for the people of Burnley its the only good thing their town has going for it, its bleak, grey and wet.

I live in W Yorkshire but Burnley is close enough for the town I live in to now have a healthy number of Burnley fans to add to the list of Leeds, Bradford and most fondly and closest Halifax Town fans, jeez whatever happened to poor Halifax. I know a few Halifax lads who still follow them and by their accounts their rivalry with nearby Huddersfield was vicious.

[bristolcitysweden]

8 minutes ago, YorkshireSection said:

Unfortunately for the people of Burnley its the only good thing their town has going for it, its bleak, grey and wet.

I live in W Yorkshire but Burnley is close enough for the town I live in to now have a healthy number of Burnley fans to add to the list of Leeds, Bradford and most fondly and closest Halifax Town fans, jeez whatever happened to poor Halifax. I know a few Halifax lads who still follow them and by their accounts their rivalry with nearby Huddersfield was vicious.

Went by train from Manchester to  Bradford ( v City 0-6) and thought what a rough genuine place Halifax is!! Really, really loved what I saw. Following them in the National League.

[bristolcitysweden]

14 minutes ago, YorkshireSection said:

Unfortunately for the people of Burnley its the only good thing their town has going for it, its bleak, grey and wet.

I live in W Yorkshire but Burnley is close enough for the town I live in to now have a healthy number of Burnley fans to add to the list of Leeds, Bradford and most fondly and closest Halifax Town fans, jeez whatever happened to poor Halifax. I know a few Halifax lads who still follow them and by their accounts their rivalry with nearby Huddersfield was vicious.

Won the FA-Trophy the season they where relegated to National League North

[bristolcitysweden]

The Nestlé factory in the valley. A monster.

[YorkshireSection]

10 minutes ago, bristolcitysweden said:

Went by train from Manchester to  Bradford ( v City 0-6) and thought what a rough genuine place Halifax is!! Really, really loved what I saw. Following them in the National League.

I was there pal, great game.

Halifax has some very, very beautiful areas, around the hospital (Calderdale Royal) the houses are large with decadent gating.

Atop of the hill from the hospital is a large grammar school, (posh school) opposite to which is an old tower all made of York Stone (the same as the houses), magnificent pieces of Georgian architecture which is displayed in its glorious best at the newly renovated piece hall, just a few minutes walk from the train station.

http://www.thepiecehall.co.uk/

[PHILINFRANCE]

18 minutes ago, YorkshireSection said:

I was there pal, great game.

Halifax has some very, very beautiful areas, around the hospital (Calderdale Royal) the houses are large with decadent gating.

Atop of the hill from the hospital is a large grammar school, (posh school) opposite to which is an old tower all made of York Stone (the same as the houses), magnificent pieces of Georgian architecture which is displayed in its glorious best at the newly renovated piece hall, just a few minutes walk from the train station.

http://www.thepiecehall.co.uk/

Wow.

I have never been to Halifax, but then I didn't really need to go there to know it was a shithole.

And then, Wow Again!

What on earth is that Piece Hall?

I have just looked it up on Internet, and I am astonished I have never heard mention before of what seems such a magnificent building.

Who would have thought it? In Halifax. Wow. 

[daored]

25 minutes ago, YorkshireSection said:

I was there pal, great game.

Halifax has some very, very beautiful areas, around the hospital (Calderdale Royal) the houses are large with decadent gating.

Atop of the hill from the hospital is a large grammar school, (posh school) opposite to which is an old tower all made of York Stone (the same as the houses), magnificent pieces of Georgian architecture which is displayed in its glorious best at the newly renovated piece hall, just a few minutes walk from the train station.

http://www.thepiecehall.co.uk/

Sorry pal, going to have to disagree with you about the piece hall

[YorkshireSection]

19 minutes ago, bristolcitysweden said:

The Nestlé factory in the valley. A monster.

Yep, a home to rubbish chocolate and a piece of crap architecture.

Halifax does have some shit holes.

Mixenden (Mixy) is a white trash hole, its such a weird place. Coming from the opposite side to Halifax in the car, you basically drive through miles and miles of quaint villages and rolling hills and then a council estate, then another council estate, 2 large tower blocks and a couple of shops, properly ODD. Now I was brought up on a council estate but this one is in the weirdest of places it hangs onto Halifax by a thread with one bus in, one bus out when the service runs that is.

Then there is the Asian hell hole; Kings Cross, rows of terraced houses sloping down a hill, like Mixy full of crack and smack, much like the nearby towns.

[bristolcitysweden]

1 minute ago, YorkshireSection said:

Yep, a home to rubbish chocolate and a piece of crap architecture.

Halifax does have some shit holes.

Mixenden (Mixy) is a white trash hole, its such a weird place. Coming from the opposite side to Halifax in the car, you basically drive through miles and miles of quaint villages and rolling hills and then a council estate, then another council estate, 2 large tower blocks and a couple of shops, properly ODD. Now I was brought up on a council estate but this one is in the weirdest of places it hangs onto Halifax by a thread with one bus in, one bus out when the service runs that is.

Then there is the Asian hell hole; Kings Cross, rows of terraced houses sloping down a hill, like Mixy full of crack and smack, much like the nearby towns.

Great place to visit!

[YorkshireSection]

21 minutes ago, daored said:

Sorry pal, going to have to disagree with you about the piece hall

Oh ok, I think its beautiful, when did you go?

[bristolcitysweden]

We love England. Not London.

[daored]

Just now, YorkshireSection said:

Oh ok, I think its beautiful, when did you go?

Been a couple of times, live in halifax. Personally think there was so much more they could have done to the site 

[YorkshireSection]

1 minute ago, daored said:

Been a couple of times, live in halifax. Personally think there was so much more they could have done to the site 

Its only a refurb though.

They were only allowed to refurbish the site to its original form, so I guess they were very limited in what they could do.

Its definitely a great addition to what would have remained a boring, "normal" town centre, its worth a visit just for the ice cream.

PS: Its nice to know there is another West Yorkshire City fan, how long you been in Fax pal?

 

[daored]

1 hour ago, YorkshireSection said:

Its only a refurb though.

They were only allowed to refurbish the site to its original form, so I guess they were very limited in what they could do.

Its definitely a great addition to what would have remained a boring, "normal" town centre, its worth a visit just for the ice cream.

PS: Its nice to know there is another West Yorkshire City fan, how long you been in Fax pal?

 

Understand what your saying, but think it’s rather bland. For me they could have made more use of the space by turning into more shops etc , places to eat, drink. Just think it’s limited at the minute. Not had the ice cream 

I originally moved to Leeds in 2010 and lived central until I moved to Hipperholme in February 2015. 

[Port Said Red]

1 hour ago, bristolcitysweden said:

We love England. Not London.

There are some wonderful parts of London. I am lucky that my job takes me to some of the more obscure areas. But even among the better known, Greenwich is stunning.

[bcfcredandwhite]

I have a Halifax Bank Account. I don't particularly enjoy visiting the branch though - its a pain to get to.