chucky Posted October 25, 2017 Report Share Posted October 25, 2017 Oh dear... http://www.skysports.com/football/news/11711/11096493/arbitration-panel-rules-against-qpr-over-financial-fair-play-claim I'm glad SL is doing things the safe and proper way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bristol Rob Posted October 25, 2017 Report Share Posted October 25, 2017 Wonder where the 40mil will go (if they lose an appeal) Will it be shared by the clubs who were disadvantaged by QPR playing to their own rules. Or will it go to the football league and never seen again? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scrumpty Posted October 25, 2017 Report Share Posted October 25, 2017 Perhaps it’s a good time for a cheeky bid for their best players. That Freeman chap looks useful! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major Isewater Posted October 25, 2017 Report Share Posted October 25, 2017 Well this is very bad news ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wendyredredrobin Posted October 25, 2017 Report Share Posted October 25, 2017 Does anyone understand how the ffp rules actually work. It seems that many clubs find ways around them? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gasbuster Posted October 25, 2017 Report Share Posted October 25, 2017 2 minutes ago, wendyredredrobin said: Does anyone understand how the ffp rules actually work. It seems that many clubs find ways around them? Exactly. Q.P.R. were due to pay this a few seasons ago. This time they should be MADE to pay it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bristol Rob Posted October 25, 2017 Report Share Posted October 25, 2017 2 minutes ago, The Gasbuster said: Exactly. Q.P.R. were due to pay this a few seasons ago. This time they should be MADE to pay it. They have another appeal to go yet! Assuming they have the right to an appeal there will probably be another two years of arguing before anything happens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big C Posted October 25, 2017 Report Share Posted October 25, 2017 I do find it quite funny that a punishment for losing a lot of money is a massive fine Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scrumpylegs Posted October 25, 2017 Report Share Posted October 25, 2017 They couldn't and wouldn't pay this fine anyway. Relegation/points deduction seems most likely outcome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vincent Vega Posted October 25, 2017 Report Share Posted October 25, 2017 3 minutes ago, Scrumpylegs said: They couldn't and wouldn't pay this fine anyway. Relegation/points deduction seems most likely outcome. You cannot just choose to not pay a fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheshire_red Posted October 25, 2017 Report Share Posted October 25, 2017 Or Bankruptcy. Other than for their supporters I hope there are made to start again in the West London Sunday League Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red-Robbo Posted October 25, 2017 Report Share Posted October 25, 2017 5 minutes ago, Scrumpylegs said: They couldn't and wouldn't pay this fine anyway. Relegation/points deduction seems most likely outcome. If they didn't pay, a two divisions relegation would be the precedent. However, as one of the consortia of owners is the world's third richest man, I think they can afford it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Hunt-Hertz Posted October 25, 2017 Report Share Posted October 25, 2017 Tough shit.... cheating cockney arseholes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scrumpylegs Posted October 25, 2017 Report Share Posted October 25, 2017 10 minutes ago, Red-Robbo said: If they didn't pay, a two divisions relegation would be the precedent. However, as one of the consortia of owners is the world's third richest man, I think they can afford it. I don't think they'd pay regardless of how much money they've got. At the end of the day QPR means nothing to them and was just a trinket and vanity project for them. I doubt they're that involved now and would expect that owning a mediocre championship club is not high on their agenda!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red-Robbo Posted October 25, 2017 Report Share Posted October 25, 2017 1 minute ago, Scrumpylegs said: I don't think they'd pay regardless of how much money they've got. At the end of the day QPR means nothing to them and was just a trinket and vanity project for them. I doubt they're that involved now and would expect that owning a mediocre championship club is not high on their agenda!! Possibly. But Lakshi Mittal has so much money, he makes Steve Lansdown look like a Big Issue seller. He probably has £40m in small change. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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One Team In Keynsham Posted October 25, 2017 Report Share Posted October 25, 2017 39 minutes ago, Red-Robbo said: If they didn't pay, a two divisions relegation would be the precedent. However, as one of the consortia of owners is the world's third richest man, I think they can afford it. Not having read the story in any detail, however would the issue be that the fine is levied on the club, not the owner(s)? Thus, doesn't matter how Brewstered the owners are, if the club doesn't have the cash, and there is no way of injecting the funds into the club (which I understand was the issue to start with), the club is unable to pay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lewisdabaron Posted October 25, 2017 Report Share Posted October 25, 2017 https://www.fansnetwork.co.uk/football/queensparkrangers/news/46804/coming-home-to-roost-–-column Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coppello Posted October 25, 2017 Report Share Posted October 25, 2017 29 minutes ago, One Team In Keynsham said: Not having read the story in any detail, however would the issue be that the fine is levied on the club, not the owner(s)? Thus, doesn't matter how Brewstered the owners are, if the club doesn't have the cash, and there is no way of injecting the funds into the club (which I understand was the issue to start with), the club is unable to pay. If am not mistaken, they can inject the cash through an interest-free loan which would barely affect the clubs accounting income (which is used as a measure by FFP). If they gifted them the money or subsequently wrote off the loan there could be an issue. Not an expert on FFP by any means but that is my understanding. It's ridiculous that this is for the 2013 season when they got promoted. They've completed three seasons since then and are yet to be punished for their financial doping. The only way to really enforce FFP is a points deduction which happens in a timely manner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScottishRed Posted October 25, 2017 Report Share Posted October 25, 2017 If the appeal fails they still won't have to fork out 40m, a compromise will be reached, you can bet on it. My understanding is that Bmuff are very much going to be in the same boat should they fall out of the PL. It would appear the PL doesn't care if you broke FFP to get into the 'club' but the FL does however they can only punish you once you are back in their structure. I don't know who ends up with the proceeds from the fine but I would not be surprised if at least part of it goes to those bastions of virtue - UEFA and FIFA! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wendyredredrobin Posted October 25, 2017 Report Share Posted October 25, 2017 So to pay the ffp fine, the owner injects 40 million then gets fined again for injecting another 40 million Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exAtyeoMax Posted October 25, 2017 Report Share Posted October 25, 2017 3 hours ago, Juan Kerr said: Tough shit.... cheating cockney arseholes. I don't think you can here the sound of Bow Bells from Shepherd's Bush… Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tinman85 Posted October 25, 2017 Report Share Posted October 25, 2017 Surely this should mean points deduction and transfer embargo? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CotswoldRed Posted October 25, 2017 Report Share Posted October 25, 2017 We all know it won't happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Hunt-Hertz Posted October 25, 2017 Report Share Posted October 25, 2017 1 hour ago, exAtyeoMax said: I don't think you can here the sound of Bow Bells from Shepherd's Bush… A crude generalisation....I consider Swindle to be a cockney enclave. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CotswoldRed Posted October 25, 2017 Report Share Posted October 25, 2017 1 hour ago, exAtyeoMax said: I don't think you can here the sound of Bow Bells from Shepherd's Bush… That'll be traffic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweeneys Penalties Posted October 25, 2017 Report Share Posted October 25, 2017 7 hours ago, Big C said: I do find it quite funny that a punishment for losing a lot of money is a massive fine much like fining the homeless bloke for begging. If he didn't have any money in the first place...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweeneys Penalties Posted October 25, 2017 Report Share Posted October 25, 2017 2 hours ago, Juan Kerr said: A crude generalisation....I consider Swindle to be a cockney enclave. if you look at Swindon (as a place) history.... that's pretty close to the fact. I have worked with people of my age who were on Tottenham's or Arsenal's books as a kid it's crazy. Even Arsenal in the Community have an open day in Swindon every year (mind you, Tottenham have one in Marlborough). A close friend grew up in the flats overlooking Highbury/ Older people I know were offered a "place in the country" during the London slum clearances. What a rude awakening they must have had. I was waiting outside the local tyre fitting place earlier. There were 4 people outside. Three London accents and me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tinman85 Posted October 25, 2017 Report Share Posted October 25, 2017 23rd December we are surely due a win at Loftus Road. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted October 25, 2017 Report Share Posted October 25, 2017 Oh dear...will affect their playing budget. Poor old Hollowhead eh. What a shame. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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