CyderInACan Posted September 6, 2016 Author Report Share Posted September 6, 2016 23 minutes ago, GasDestroyer said: If you are in a boisterous group of away fans givin it the big one outside the BS3 at 2.45pm on a BCFC Saturday home game, you are most likely going to get a response from the customers inside!!! Especially a side like Aston Villa who have an active hooligan element. Blimey. Being inadvertently near people being "boisterous" means it's ok to chuck bottles at them? Wow. I hope the book has plenty more examples of such bravery. It'll be a great read. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM91 Posted September 6, 2016 Report Share Posted September 6, 2016 18 minutes ago, Collis1 said: That wasn't obvious given the context of your post. But fine, if its an anology it is a f*cking terrible one. It is obvious, but again your feeble mind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RumRed Posted September 6, 2016 Report Share Posted September 6, 2016 13 hours ago, phantom said: So does the person who sits and moans behind me every game for the past few years, but that would be an extreme comparison too ! I honestly don't know why you keep repeating the same lines on every thread to do with this, no offence but it has got very tiresome Yep the moaning git behind you is completely the same as the boys from back then. Did the moaner behind you make the authorities put us in pens back in the day? Did he make it so that the police now make us pick up tickets from motorway car parks? Bubble matches? No drinking on trains? Is he the reason that we can't stand on the terraces anymore? Is it that moaner that means that the police costs are so high and therefore raises ticket prices? 'I honestly don't know why you keep repeating the same lines on every thread to do with this, no offence but it has got very tiresome' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Natchfever Posted September 6, 2016 Report Share Posted September 6, 2016 1 hour ago, hollydog said: Utter fiction! I was just ahead of the Villa fans referred to above who were walking past BS3 (boisterously - and why not) when they were showered by bottles from the numbnuts within. "Steamed by people from Birmingham" - sorry you're having a larf. The same chaps had politely asked me the quickest way to the ground a few minutes earlier, hence my young son's surprise at why city fans thought it appropriate to chuck bottles at them. When was that ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin phantom Posted September 7, 2016 Admin Report Share Posted September 7, 2016 13 hours ago, hollydog said: Utter fiction! I was just ahead of the Villa fans referred to above who were walking past BS3 (boisterously - and why not) when they were showered by bottles from the numbnuts within. "Steamed by people from Birmingham" - sorry you're having a larf. The same chaps had politely asked me the quickest way to the ground a few minutes earlier, hence my young son's surprise at why city fans thought it appropriate to chuck bottles at them. Assume you realise there were more than one group of Villa fans that walked past the pub that day? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Natchfever Posted September 7, 2016 Report Share Posted September 7, 2016 39 minutes ago, phantom said: Assume you realise there were more than one group of Villa fans that walked past the pub that day? Why I asked when this occurred Phantom. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hollydog Posted September 7, 2016 Report Share Posted September 7, 2016 15 hours ago, Loon plage said: When was that ? About a minute after 3. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hollydog Posted September 7, 2016 Report Share Posted September 7, 2016 15 hours ago, Loon plage said: When was that ? About a minute after 3. 4 hours ago, phantom said: Assume you realise there were more than one group of Villa fans that walked past the pub that day? Really? The OP's post referred to people coming to the environs of the ground after the game had started so that's the time period I'm referring to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Natchfever Posted September 7, 2016 Report Share Posted September 7, 2016 46 minutes ago, hollydog said: About a minute after 3. Really? The OP's post referred to people coming to the environs of the ground after the game had started so that's the time period I'm referring to. The "utter fiction" comment was in response to my post which referred to groups (Villa being the latest) who deliberately stay away until well after the game has started so a different time which would have been clear had it been read properly.Edit 1 minute after 3pm not what I was referring to at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richwwtk Posted September 7, 2016 Report Share Posted September 7, 2016 24 minutes ago, Loon plage said: The "utter fiction" comment was in response to my post which referred to groups (Villa being the latest) who deliberately stay away until well after the game has started so a different time which would have been clear had it been read properly. I try to stay quiet but this is too laughable for words..... What you're trying to have us believe is that there are Aston Villa fans (and other clubs maybe) that travel to Bristol to arrive after the match has started so they can invade the 'home' pubs, leaving before the end of the match? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Natchfever Posted September 7, 2016 Report Share Posted September 7, 2016 1 minute ago, richwwtk said: I try to stay quiet but this is too laughable for words..... What you're trying to have us believe is that there are Aston Villa fans (and other clubs maybe) that travel to Bristol to arrive after the match has started so they can invade the 'home' pubs, leaving before the end of the match? Not exactly. Some arrive in Bristol early get fuelled up well away from BS3 and then if they are aware of so called city pubs seek to get into them as was the case on Saturday. I didn't say such people were away from the area before the end of the match though and in the case of the combo who arrived for the Rotherham match they waited until they had an escort from the Tobacco factory having attempted to get into both the Spanish bar and BS3. If you were not aware of that then you have learned something but please please don't laugh about it because it really isn't funny. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daored Posted September 7, 2016 Report Share Posted September 7, 2016 59 minutes ago, richwwtk said: I try to stay quiet but this is too laughable for words..... What you're trying to have us believe is that there are Aston Villa fans (and other clubs maybe) that travel to Bristol to arrive after the match has started so they can invade the 'home' pubs, leaving before the end of the match? Best not be late getting into the ground anymore because groups of lads from outside Bristol are going into pubs near the ground. They may wear different colours (not red and white); they may even talk with a funny accent, horror, horror they may even have a little sing song! However, if they do please be aware it is perfectly acceptable to throw bottles or any other objects available at them! Jesus, some people need to grow up and let live Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old parkender Posted September 7, 2016 Report Share Posted September 7, 2016 In the 70s and 80s it was de'riguer to attempt to enter the home sides popular 'end' either by massing in there before kick off or attempting to force a way in after kick off, these days thankfully that sort of thing has been eradicated, however the dilution of the football hooligan scene has led to certain groups to deem it acceptable to try to gain entry to home pubs using the same methods, Rotherham being an example of the late arrival trick. It is a fact that in several pubs around Ashton gate you will find city fans still drinking long after kick off and indeed making no effort to go to the game. Some people may find this laughable or unbelievable but it's true and it happens. It seems the police intelligence have a little snooze between 3 and 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
archie andrews Posted September 7, 2016 Report Share Posted September 7, 2016 2 hours ago, richwwtk said: I try to stay quiet but this is too laughable for words..... What you're trying to have us believe is that there are Aston Villa fans (and other clubs maybe) that travel to Bristol to arrive after the match has started so they can invade the 'home' pubs, leaving before the end of the match? I reckon your a closet wannabe richy......for someone who deplores thuggery at the match you aren't half showing an interest in this thread.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slartibartfast Posted September 7, 2016 Report Share Posted September 7, 2016 1 hour ago, old parkender said: In the 70s and 80s it was de'riguer to attempt to enter the home sides popular 'end' And the second half of the 60's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stortz Posted September 7, 2016 Report Share Posted September 7, 2016 4 hours ago, daored said: Best not be late getting into the ground anymore because groups of lads from outside Bristol are going into pubs near the ground. They may wear different colours (not red and white); they may even talk with a funny accent, horror, horror they may even have a little sing song! However, if they do please be aware it is perfectly acceptable to throw bottles or any other objects available at them! Jesus, some people need to grow up and let live No offence intended, and i am no apologist for *********, but have you ever been to a football game before? You are in utopia if you think that's how it works outside virtually every ground in the country, whether you or i like it or not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CyderInACan Posted September 7, 2016 Author Report Share Posted September 7, 2016 4 hours ago, old parkender said: In the 70s and 80s it was de'riguer to attempt to enter the home sides popular 'end' either by massing in there before kick off or attempting to force a way in after kick off, these days thankfully that sort of thing has been eradicated, however the dilution of the football hooligan scene has led to certain groups to deem it acceptable to try to gain entry to home pubs using the same methods, Rotherham being an example of the late arrival trick. It is a fact that in several pubs around Ashton gate you will find city fans still drinking long after kick off and indeed making no effort to go to the game. Some people may find this laughable or unbelievable but it's true and it happens. It seems the police intelligence have a little snooze between 3 and 5 I thought this was a contradiction in terms!? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daored Posted September 7, 2016 Report Share Posted September 7, 2016 12 minutes ago, Stortz said: No offence intended, and i am no apologist for *********, but have you ever been to a football game before? You are in utopia if you think that's how it works outside virtually every ground in the country, whether you or i like it or not. I bow to your superior knowledge, clearly as you put it in my perfect world I'm in my little bubble and miss all that goes on around me. I shall make sure my eyes are open on Saturday and I'm aware of my surroundings Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Portland Bill Posted September 7, 2016 Report Share Posted September 7, 2016 6 hours ago, richwwtk said: I try to stay quiet but this is too laughable for words..... What you're trying to have us believe is that there are Aston Villa fans (and other clubs maybe) that travel to Bristol to arrive after the match has started so they can invade the 'home' pubs, leaving before the end of the match? You may find it laughable, but that is quite a common thing that has happened many times over the last 25 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RumRed Posted September 7, 2016 Report Share Posted September 7, 2016 3 minutes ago, Portland Bill said: You may find it laughable, but that is quite a common thing that has happened many times over the last 25 years. How about the home fans go to the game and allow the visitors to bother travelling all the way down spending cash to be met by an empty pub and a welcoming landlord? I'd imagine that would piss them off. maybe lay on a cream tea and cakes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stortz Posted September 7, 2016 Report Share Posted September 7, 2016 38 minutes ago, daored said: I bow to your superior knowledge, clearly as you put it in my perfect world I'm in my little bubble and miss all that goes on around me. I shall make sure my eyes are open on Saturday and I'm aware of my surroundings No superior knowledge here and I clearly stated that I meant no personal offence; your ideal just doesn't reflect the reality outside the majority of grounds in the country at this time. For clarity, I am not saying that this is a good thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Exile Posted September 8, 2016 Report Share Posted September 8, 2016 9 hours ago, Stortz said: No superior knowledge here and I clearly stated that I meant no personal offence; your ideal just doesn't reflect the reality outside the majority of grounds in the country at this time. For clarity, I am not saying that this is a good thing. Well, simply as a reality check Stortz, I've been to 15 different away grounds in the past two seasons. I'll be at Rotherham on Saturday and Wednesday next week. I recall a decent curry and a beautiful sunny evening in Bradford, drinks with Fulham fans by the river, a can of lager in the street with my son's Charlton supporting mate, queueing with Barnsley supporters for fish & chips, even a fairly entertaining conversation with some deluded Swindon fans after their win at their place. I've not seen any trouble in that time. All I can say is that if it was there it was easy to avoid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Natchfever Posted September 8, 2016 Report Share Posted September 8, 2016 10 hours ago, Stortz said: No superior knowledge here and I clearly stated that I meant no personal offence; your ideal just doesn't reflect the reality outside the majority of grounds in the country at this time. For clarity, I am not saying that this is a good thing. It is a fact that some men seek to "take" home sides pubs when the majority of fans are watching the game. Defies logic but there it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daored Posted September 8, 2016 Report Share Posted September 8, 2016 40 minutes ago, Red Exile said: Well, simply as a reality check Stortz, I've been to 15 different away grounds in the past two seasons. I'll be at Rotherham on Saturday and Wednesday next week. I recall a decent curry and a beautiful sunny evening in Bradford, drinks with Fulham fans by the river, a can of lager in the street with my son's Charlton supporting mate, queueing with Barnsley supporters for fish & chips, even a fairly entertaining conversation with some deluded Swindon fans after their win at their place. I've not seen any trouble in that time. All I can say is that if it was there it was easy to avoid. That's my point, it is easy to go to football and not get caught up in all this nonsense. I too will be at Rotherham and Wednesday and also not expecting to be caught up in any problems with rival fans. I accept you've got to have common sense to where you go drinking before and after the game but for me I go to football to watch my team play, hopefully also win, that's all I'm interested in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Natchfever Posted September 8, 2016 Report Share Posted September 8, 2016 45 minutes ago, Red Exile said: Well, simply as a reality check Stortz, I've been to 15 different away grounds in the past two seasons. I'll be at Rotherham on Saturday and Wednesday next week. I recall a decent curry and a beautiful sunny evening in Bradford, drinks with Fulham fans by the river, a can of lager in the street with my son's Charlton supporting mate, queueing with Barnsley supporters for fish & chips, even a fairly entertaining conversation with some deluded Swindon fans after their win at their place. I've not seen any trouble in that time. All I can say is that if it was there it was easy to avoid. Why are you missing the point ? People who go to watch football are nothing like those who travel with no intention of seeing the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richwwtk Posted September 8, 2016 Report Share Posted September 8, 2016 10 minutes ago, Loon plage said: It is a fact that some men seek to "take" home sides pubs when the majority of fans are watching the game. Defies logic but there it is. What do they do when they get there? Have a pint and go home? Take a selfie so they can brag about it on Facebook later? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Natchfever Posted September 8, 2016 Report Share Posted September 8, 2016 Just now, richwwtk said: What do they do when they get there? Have a pint and go home? No idea. Why ask me ? I have never had a conversation with such a person. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richwwtk Posted September 8, 2016 Report Share Posted September 8, 2016 Just now, Loon plage said: No idea. Why ask me ? I have never had a conversation with such a person. You're the person claiming they exist. Personally I don't believe there are such people. They may as well travel to Ashton Gate on a Thursday, sneak in past the groundsman when he isn't looking and claim they took our ground as well! It doesn't only defy logic, but belief as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tin Soldier Posted September 8, 2016 Report Share Posted September 8, 2016 Bristol City lads outside empty Fulham pub last season (:laugh:) Can only assume they made it to the game - and it was a good one! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Natchfever Posted September 8, 2016 Report Share Posted September 8, 2016 2 minutes ago, richwwtk said: You're the person claiming they exist. Personally I don't believe there are such people. They may as well travel to Ashton Gate on a Thursday, sneak in past the groundsman when he isn't looking and claim they took our ground as well! It doesn't only defy logic, but belief as well. I'm not the only one who has stated this as a fact though am I ? Perhaps we are all fantasists and the incidents were simply cases of stag parties getting lost. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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