elhombrecito Posted November 30, 2017 Report Share Posted November 30, 2017 43 minutes ago, CyderInACan said: No - he's simply scored the most. great ɡreɪt/ adjective superlative adjective: greatest 1. of an extent, amount, or intensity considerably above average. He has scored the greatest amount of goals. He is therefore England's greatest ever goal scorer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveInSA Posted November 30, 2017 Report Share Posted November 30, 2017 That's embarrassing. For Hart. Oh dear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveInSA Posted November 30, 2017 Report Share Posted November 30, 2017 1 minute ago, El Hombrecito said: great ɡreɪt/ adjective superlative adjective: greatest 1. of an extent, amount, or intensity considerably above average. He has scored the greatest amount of goals. He is therefore England's greatest ever goal scorer. In this narrow definition yes. Otherwise, he's been a total flop at every championship event on the world stage. Oh yes, and he's a complete banker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CyderInACan Posted November 30, 2017 Report Share Posted November 30, 2017 1 minute ago, El Hombrecito said: great ɡreɪt/ adjective superlative adjective: greatest 1. of an extent, amount, or intensity considerably above average. He has scored the greatest amount of goals. He is therefore England's greatest ever goal scorer. I see you've coveniently omitted 1.2 below . . . of ability, quality, or eminence considerably above average. I agree that whilst he may have bagged the highest volume of goals by any single player, he is FAR from our greatest goal scorer ever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Assassin Reid Posted November 30, 2017 Report Share Posted November 30, 2017 1 hour ago, Rob k said: Do you think Linekar and charlton were scoring only against the likes of Brazil and Germany? Can't speak for Charlton but when Lineker was playing for England, the qualifying groups in Europe consisted mainly of five teams which resulted in less games at this stage, plus there was far less dross to compete against. Also, Lineker scored 10 goals in the only two World Cup tournaments he featured in which is quite an achievement. If Bas Savage had an international career like Rooney I would have given him 10/10 but this is a player who had the world at his feet. Apart from scoring mainly against mediocre/inferior opposition, I didn't see much else from Rooney in an England shirt. He spent a lot of time nonchalantly passing the ball around to teammates like it was a training match and not taking the game by the scruff of the neck. A player of his talent should have done much more IMO. Even though they didn't score as many I would say Beardsley, Shearer and Sheringham had a better international career than Rooney. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elhombrecito Posted November 30, 2017 Report Share Posted November 30, 2017 7 minutes ago, DaveInSA said: In this narrow definition yes. Otherwise, he's been a total flop at every championship event on the world stage. Oh yes, and he's a complete banker. 5 minutes ago, CyderInACan said: I see you've coveniently omitted 1.2 below . . . of ability, quality, or eminence considerably above average. I agree that whilst he may have bagged the highest volume of goals by any single player, he is FAR from our greatest goal scorer ever. The quote was that he's the greatest ever goalscorer. He is. That's an indisputable fact. Whether he performs well at major tournaments or is a nice guy has absolutely no baring on that fact. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeh Posted November 30, 2017 Report Share Posted November 30, 2017 9 hours ago, Super said: Have a look at everton forum before tonight all saying bench is the best place for him! people still say that about reid despite him being out top scorer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MC RISK77 Posted November 30, 2017 Report Share Posted November 30, 2017 2 hours ago, Super said: Actually prefer the Sterling goal. Both top goals though. In terms of technique Rooneys was on a totally different level to sterlings Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leveller Posted November 30, 2017 Report Share Posted November 30, 2017 10 hours ago, Super said: How many has sterling won? Yet he is shit according to most on here! Fantastic goal tonight. Anybody who thinks Sterling is shit is also wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Posted November 30, 2017 Report Share Posted November 30, 2017 43 minutes ago, MC RISK77 said: In terms of technique Rooneys was on a totally different level to sterlings The trouble with those goals same with Alonso for Liverpool they are down to poor goalkeeping. Not doubting its a good goal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Roper Posted November 30, 2017 Report Share Posted November 30, 2017 Cant really blame Hart too much for the goal ,he had to come out to cover his inept defenders ,did well to get to the ball but then it all went wrong for him . Just unfortunate in my opinion . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1bristolcity Posted November 30, 2017 Report Share Posted November 30, 2017 11 hours ago, Super said: Suddenly decides to turn up after being shit all season. Leave it out, even you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BookEnd Posted November 30, 2017 Report Share Posted November 30, 2017 3 minutes ago, 1bristolcity said: Leave it out, even you. Says the biggest shiz stirrer on here apparently because the younger generation enjoy FIFA, you literally make comparisons as to why England are a failure. Never heard of spare time? Although you spend most of it stirring Rubbish. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhistleHappy Posted November 30, 2017 Report Share Posted November 30, 2017 12 hours ago, Super said: Suddenly decides to turn up after being shit all season. Are you Coleens' dad? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hantsred Posted November 30, 2017 Report Share Posted November 30, 2017 Fabulous technique by Rooney -drilling the ball with the boot laces rather than a more safe but less powerful in step kick - an instinctive and skillful strike from the guy. Also don't get the Rooney bashers - yeah he has issues and demons but on his day he can be a joy to watch. And as for not showing up at tournaments - well he hardly alone in the England team in that regard is he!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redmycolour Posted November 30, 2017 Report Share Posted November 30, 2017 12 hours ago, frenchred said: What a shit post, England's greatest ever goalscorer. What?you are joking, if my memory serves me correct, did Nothing in euros,or last world cup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redmycolour Posted November 30, 2017 Report Share Posted November 30, 2017 12 hours ago, AppyDAZE said: Joe Hart, No World cup for you He's shit, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
North London Red Posted November 30, 2017 Report Share Posted November 30, 2017 2 hours ago, DaveInSA said: In this narrow definition yes. Otherwise, he's been a total flop at every championship event on the world stage. Oh yes, and he's a complete banker. He was arguably the best player at Euro 2004 before getting injured, and he has also scored in four separate tournaments, which very few players can say they’ve done (and yes I know you said ‘world stage’ and Euro 2004 was one technically a ‘European stage’ before anyone picks me up on that!). 2006 and 2010 - unquestionably disappointing but didn’t look fit to me in either tournament. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
North London Red Posted November 30, 2017 Report Share Posted November 30, 2017 18 minutes ago, redmycolour said: What?you are joking, if my memory serves me correct, did Nothing in euros,or last world cup. Did nothing at the last World Cup? He scored one of England’s only two goals and set up the other. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Tel Posted November 30, 2017 Report Share Posted November 30, 2017 10 hours ago, pillred said: lets just say that's November goal of the month sorted. Not so sure about that. Think his second goal of the three may beat it. Played the ball square to the right, from the edge of Everton's own penalty area, and two passes later he was on the edge of the opposition's six yard box to slot the ball in. Ran like a young un! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bcfctim Posted November 30, 2017 Report Share Posted November 30, 2017 Wonder if anyone else has ever scored from their own half twice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redmycolour Posted November 30, 2017 Report Share Posted November 30, 2017 28 minutes ago, North London Red said: Did nothing at the last World Cup? He scored one of England’s only two goals and set up the other. Wow 1 goal, so that makes him the greatest ever player, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZiderEyed Posted November 30, 2017 Report Share Posted November 30, 2017 1 minute ago, bcfctim said: Wonder if anyone else has ever scored from their own half twice Xabi Alonso. Luton and Newcastle if my memory serves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pillred Posted November 30, 2017 Report Share Posted November 30, 2017 24 minutes ago, Red Tel said: Not so sure about that. Think his second goal of the three may beat it. Played the ball square to the right, from the edge of Everton's own penalty area, and two passes later he was on the edge of the opposition's six yard box to slot the ball in. Ran like a young un! great goal and sterlings, but it's the goals scored from inside their own half that usually get the vote. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
North London Red Posted November 30, 2017 Report Share Posted November 30, 2017 10 minutes ago, redmycolour said: Wow 1 goal, so that makes him the greatest ever player, Nobody in this thread is claiming he’s the greatest ever player. Just pointing out that it might be considered harsh to say he ‘did nothing’ when he was involved in both goals England scored in Brazil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redmycolour Posted November 30, 2017 Report Share Posted November 30, 2017 20 minutes ago, North London Red said: Nobody in this thread is claiming he’s the greatest ever player. Just pointing out that it might be considered harsh to say he ‘did nothing’ when he was involved in both goals England scored in Brazil. Have a look at frenchred quote on previous page,"greatest player". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
North London Red Posted November 30, 2017 Report Share Posted November 30, 2017 4 minutes ago, redmycolour said: Have a look at frenchred quote on previous page,"greatest player". I’ve had a look and I can’t see where he / she claims Rooney to be ‘the greatest ever player’. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elhombrecito Posted November 30, 2017 Report Share Posted November 30, 2017 7 minutes ago, redmycolour said: Have a look at frenchred quote on previous page,"greatest player". @frenchred said greatest goalscorer. Which is 100% correct. Not one single person on here has said he's England's greatest player. I've never understood the hatred for Rooney, when somebody like Steven Gerrard (who was equally awful in major tournaments, and let's be honest is a bit of a dick) seems loved by all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leveller Posted November 30, 2017 Report Share Posted November 30, 2017 5 minutes ago, El Hombrecito said: @frenchred said greatest goalscorer. Which is 100% correct. Not one single person on here has said he's England's greatest player. I've never understood the hatred for Rooney, when somebody like Steven Gerrard (who was equally awful in major tournaments, and let's be honest is a bit of a dick) seems loved by all. Most of the time, Gerrard seems like a thoroughly nice bloke. What have I missed? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeh Posted November 30, 2017 Report Share Posted November 30, 2017 21 minutes ago, El Hombrecito said: @frenchred said greatest goalscorer. Which is 100% correct. Not one single person on here has said he's England's greatest player. I've never understood the hatred for Rooney, when somebody like Steven Gerrard (who was equally awful in major tournaments, and let's be honest is a bit of a dick) seems loved by all. Yep Rooney doesn't even come close to England's greasy ever player.......Carlton palmer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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