BS3_RED Posted December 3, 2017 Report Share Posted December 3, 2017 from 52 points and safety. We could be safe by by New years. Never thought I would be saying this but .....well done Lee. You have certainly turned it around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lanterne Rouge Posted December 3, 2017 Report Share Posted December 3, 2017 Just now, BS3_RED said: from 52 points and safety. We could be safe by by New years. Never thought I would be saying this but .....well done Lee. You have certainly turned it around. 21 points above third bottom. Even if we went on a run of last season`s proportions - which we won`t - we would probably still be well above them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1bristolcity Posted December 3, 2017 Report Share Posted December 3, 2017 2 minutes ago, Red Right Hand said: 21 points above third bottom. Even if we went on a run of last season`s proportions - which we won`t - we would probably still be well above them. If we went 9 defeats in a row, that would leave us with a win ratio of -2, and that would be just below mid table. Also it looks like a lower points tally at the bottom this season will be needed to survive, I would think 46 points will be more than enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lanterne Rouge Posted December 3, 2017 Report Share Posted December 3, 2017 Just now, 1bristolcity said: If we went 9 defeats in a row, that would leave us with a win ratio of -2, and that would be just below mid table. Also it looks like a lower points tally at the bottom this season will be needed to survive, I would think 46 points will be more than enough. I agree totally - there are some truly awful sides down there and I can see at least a couple being tailed off by March. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wendyredredrobin Posted December 3, 2017 Report Share Posted December 3, 2017 Stop this negativity and look at how many points we are from the top. Savour this promotion season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1bristolcity Posted December 3, 2017 Report Share Posted December 3, 2017 2 minutes ago, Red Right Hand said: I agree totally - there are some truly awful sides down there and I can see at least a couple being tailed off by March. So I guess just 2 wins and 3 draws should see us safe then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledAjax Posted December 3, 2017 Report Share Posted December 3, 2017 7 minutes ago, Red Right Hand said: I agree totally - there are some truly awful sides down there and I can see at least a couple being tailed off by March. This time last season only two teams had failed to reach 20 points. Cardiff were 22nd with 20. This season 5 teams are yet to hit 20. Barnsley are the team on 20 and they are 19th! So yes, it is currently looking like you'll need fewer than 50 for survival. Interestingly the other end of the table looked very similar to this season. Newcastle were on 43, Brighton on 42 and the team in 3rd? Reading on...37. Head hear to see how the table looked after each round. http://www.worldfootball.net/schedule/eng-championship-2016-2017-spieltag/20/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1bristolcity Posted December 3, 2017 Report Share Posted December 3, 2017 1 minute ago, wendyredredrobin said: Stop this negativity and look at how many points we are from the top. Savour this promotion season. Not being negative, just being 'City' After last season it's been a revelation, that's why we love this club of ours never do things by the book. However as I have said I don't want top 6 I want top 2 that should be our goal, and I think we can just about do it. But it's nice to see us relegation free, so we can really go for it at the right end. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1bristolcity Posted December 3, 2017 Report Share Posted December 3, 2017 5 minutes ago, ExiledAjax said: This time last season only two teams had failed to reach 20 points. Cardiff were 22nd with 20. This season 5 teams are yet to hit 20. Barnsley are the team on 20 and they are 19th! So yes, it is currently looking like you'll need fewer than 50 for survival. Interestingly the other end of the table looked very similar to this season. Newcastle were on 43, Brighton on 42 and the team in 3rd? Reading on...37. Head hear to see how the table looked after each round. http://www.worldfootball.net/schedule/eng-championship-2016-2017-spieltag/20/ Blimey forgot Cardiff were 3rd bottom back then, hope the real Cardiff implode this season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lanterne Rouge Posted December 3, 2017 Report Share Posted December 3, 2017 2 minutes ago, 1bristolcity said: Blimey forgot Cardiff were 3rd bottom back then, hope the real Cardiff implode this season. Didn`t we kick start their season losing over there? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledAjax Posted December 3, 2017 Report Share Posted December 3, 2017 4 minutes ago, 1bristolcity said: Blimey forgot Cardiff were 3rd bottom back then, hope the real Cardiff implode this season. This time last season: Wolves, 19th, 22 points Cardiff, 22nd, 20 points Us, 14th, 27 points Sheff Utd, L1, 3rd, 38 points Disgusting how much further than us those two have progressed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1bristolcity Posted December 3, 2017 Report Share Posted December 3, 2017 2 minutes ago, Red Right Hand said: Didn`t we kick start their season losing over there? Yes and it started our awful run, I would love it if we beat them at their place, it's long overdue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1bristolcity Posted December 3, 2017 Report Share Posted December 3, 2017 2 minutes ago, ExiledAjax said: This time last season: Wolves, 19th, 22 points Cardiff, 22nd, 20 points Us, 14th, 27 points Disgusting how much further than us those two have progressed Yes Wolves too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbored Posted December 3, 2017 Report Share Posted December 3, 2017 16 minutes ago, wendyredredrobin said: Stop this negativity and look at how many points we are from the top. Quite right WRR. I get the impression that some are still shell shocked after last seasons dismal run of loses - despite our obvious improvement throughout not only the squad but the entire structure within the club. Everything is different this season and thankfully SL stuck by LJ otherwise we could well be struggling under some other manager right now - along with an entirely different bunch of coaches. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1bristolcity Posted December 3, 2017 Report Share Posted December 3, 2017 1 hour ago, Robbored said: Quite right WRR. I get the impression that some are still shell shocked after last seasons dismal run of loses - despite our obvious improvement throughout not only the squad but the entire structure within the club. Everything is different this season and thankfully SL stuck by LJ otherwise we could well be struggling under some other manager right now - along with an entirely different bunch of coaches. The 'negativity'was bit tongue in cheek, but reaching safety is the first priority for the likes of us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BS4 on Tour... Posted December 3, 2017 Report Share Posted December 3, 2017 3 hours ago, Red Right Hand said: Didn`t we kick start their season losing over there? I think that was more to do with them appointing Neil Warnock - they had eight points when he took over, his first game in charge was against us and then he dragged them right up the table. Not doing too badly this season either... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mozo Posted December 3, 2017 Report Share Posted December 3, 2017 5 hours ago, ExiledAjax said: This time last season only two teams had failed to reach 20 points. Cardiff were 22nd with 20. This season 5 teams are yet to hit 20. Barnsley are the team on 20 and they are 19th! So yes, it is currently looking like you'll need fewer than 50 for survival. Interestingly the other end of the table looked very similar to this season. Newcastle were on 43, Brighton on 42 and the team in 3rd? Reading on...37. Head hear to see how the table looked after each round. http://www.worldfootball.net/schedule/eng-championship-2016-2017-spieltag/20/ I had to check how we compare with the 2008 play off year... After 20 games we had 34 points and were 4th (our eventual position). After 30 games we had reached 51 points and were 3rd. Should be achievable this season. After 40 games we had 67 points and were joint 2nd. Let's not go on further from there. We're on track to better that points tally which would be some achievement for Lee Johnson particularly considering the father and son story. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pillred Posted December 4, 2017 Report Share Posted December 4, 2017 absolutely no chance at all that any of the bottom three will get anywhere near 52 points, will be surprised if they get 42. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted December 4, 2017 Report Share Posted December 4, 2017 I thought this was about our recent form- 5 wins and a draw in 7 is pretty fantastic by any standards- plus the Cup win v Palace also. In terms of the top 2- the bar is being steadily raised and not always through parachute payments. Sometimes yes but not always. After seeing that site for comparison purposes: 2012-13- 1. Cardiff 41 2. Palace 40 2013-14- 1. QPR 42 2. Burnley 40. 2014-15 1. Derby 38 2. Ipswich 37 2015-16 1. Brighton 42 2. Middlesborough 40 2016-17 1. Newcastle 43 2. Brighton 42 And now this season of course? 43 points only gets you 2nd and Wolves have 44 with still a game in hand. Steady rises in that, with 14-15 being the exception. Used to be an average of 2 points per game gets you promoted. No longer so sure. Now it probably gives you a 50% chance and not much more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
havanatopia Posted December 4, 2017 Report Share Posted December 4, 2017 7 hours ago, ExiledAjax said: Head hear to see how the table looked after each round. http://www.worldfootball.net/schedule/eng-championship-2016-2017-spieltag/20/ Thanks for the link. You sound American with your 'each round' remark! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fiale Posted December 4, 2017 Report Share Posted December 4, 2017 6 hours ago, BS4 on Tour... said: I think that was more to do with them appointing Neil Warnock - they had eight points when he took over, his first game in charge was against us and then he dragged them right up the table. Not doing too badly this season either... Yeah and they seem the real deal atm as well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledAjax Posted December 4, 2017 Report Share Posted December 4, 2017 7 hours ago, havanatopia said: Thanks for the link. You sound American with your 'each round' remark! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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