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I appreciate this thread may be of little interest to contributors given everything to be covered for BCFC but I cannot for the life of me see how Ryan Giggs can be in pole position for the Welsh National job . No management experience but constantly touted as a candidate , I recall linked to MUFC 

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4 minutes ago, Redstreet said:

I appreciate this thread may be of little interest to contributors given everything to be covered for BCFC but I cannot for the life of me see how Ryan Giggs can be in pole position for the Welsh National job . No management experience but constantly touted as a candidate , I recall linked to MUFC 

Happy to be enlightened

 

Totally agree. Personally think he’s a ***** 

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8 minutes ago, Redstreet said:

I appreciate this thread may be of little interest to contributors given everything to be covered for BCFC but I cannot for the life of me see how Ryan Giggs can be in pole position for the Welsh National job . No management experience but constantly touted as a candidate , I recall linked to MUFC 

Happy to be enlightened

 

He spent years watching and learning from one of the greatest managers of all time. And he was also in charge of United briefly. He played for Wales, they are a small nation, and it’s not a particularly prestigious appointment.

Don’t find it that outrageous or strange.

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3 minutes ago, Red Army 75 said:

Totally agree. Personally think he’s a ***** 

I assume they are short of candidates or haven’t  done a more creative search . I guess their manager has to be Welsh given their previous comments on “ not employ an English manager “ so a successful  mainland European  Manager would not be in the running . I see Sheffield Wednesday have appointed Jos Luhaky , a Dutch Manager operating in Bundesleague . Not saying Wales would have looked at it from that viewpoint but an interesting comparative appointment for a “ bigger than championship “ club . 

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2 minutes ago, ChippenhamRed said:

He spent years watching and learning from one of the greatest managers of all time. And he was also in charge of United briefly. He played for Wales, they are a small nation, and it’s not a particularly prestigious appointment.

Don’t find it that outrageous or strange.

Ok get that  thought . 

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18 minutes ago, ChippenhamRed said:

He spent years watching and learning from one of the greatest managers of all time. And he was also in charge of United briefly. He played for Wales, they are a small nation, and it’s not a particularly prestigious appointment.

Don’t find it that outrageous or strange.

Perfect job for him,Wales and his miserable face can fail together 

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50 minutes ago, Redstreet said:

I appreciate this thread may be of little interest to contributors given everything to be covered for BCFC but I cannot for the life of me see how Ryan Giggs can be in pole position for the Welsh National job . No management experience but constantly touted as a candidate , I recall linked to MUFC 

Happy to be enlightened

 

It's not that abnormal with many national teams. Jurgen Klinsmann did this with Germany, Mark Hughes's 1st job was as Wales manager. 

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1 hour ago, Redstreet said:

I appreciate this thread may be of little interest to contributors given everything to be covered for BCFC but I cannot for the life of me see how Ryan Giggs can be in pole position for the Welsh National job . No management experience but constantly touted as a candidate , I recall linked to MUFC 

Happy to be enlightened

 

How can a man with zero integrity manage a team of players ffs... blokes a disgrace!!

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1 hour ago, ChippenhamRed said:

He spent years watching and learning from one of the greatest managers of all time. And he was also in charge of United briefly. He played for Wales, they are a small nation, and it’s not a particularly prestigious appointment.

Don’t find it that outrageous or strange.

Remember him being interviewed when he took on the Man Utd temporary manager job.

Asked what was the first thing he did on his appointment, he said that he'd given himself a new playing contract. :)

 

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1 hour ago, ChippenhamRed said:

He spent years watching and learning from one of the greatest managers of all time. And he was also in charge of United briefly. He played for Wales, they are a small nation, and it’s not a particularly prestigious appointment.

Don’t find it that outrageous or strange.

Darren Ferguson is the son of said manager - and he's a ******* shit manager 

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56 minutes ago, Davefevs said:

I don’t think he’s prepared to learn his trade at League One or Two....and rightly mist chairmen above those leagues are wary of appointing someone with little / no experience and no affinity to their club.

Bang on.

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Giggs has no relevant managerial experience and no great allegiance to Wales as he hardly turned up for friendly matches. He is also a moral scumbag as he had an 8 year “affair” with his brother’s wife. If he was appointed as manager, what message would it send 

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1 hour ago, Davefevs said:

I don’t think he’s prepared to learn his trade at League One or Two....and rightly mist chairmen above those leagues are wary of appointing someone with little / no experience and no affinity to their club.

Don't think he wants a championship job either

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Didn't he win something like Sports Personality of the year once?

Then it was revealed he had his lawyers take out a super injunction to stop them revealing details of his clearly messy domestic life?

So not only is he a shit, but he then tries to hide the fact.

Wales are welcome to him, but let's face it, Bale & Ramsey aside most of the rest of their team are really English, anyway..

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7 minutes ago, Rocking Red Cyril said:

  U having a laugh 300 k is a big salary in any ones book. 

Southgate is England's lowest paid manager in 16 years at £1.8m a year, Hodgson was paid £3.5m a year and Capello was £6m.

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1 hour ago, petehinton said:

Darren Ferguson is the son of said manager - and he's a ******* shit manager 

 

28 minutes ago, JonDolman said:

Many great players have learnt from great managers and have gone on to be useless managers themselves. You can't guess who is going to be a good manager. No one knows what decisions they will make. Most people thought Gary Neville would be a great manager because he, like giggs, learnt from fergie, and mainly because he sounded good on sky sports. Means f all really. 

I don’t disagree with this. I’m not defending Giggs, I’m offering reasons why he might be considered and why it’s not as strange as the OP is making it out to be. If the Welsh are keen to appoint a Welshman - as they always have done - then the options are limited.

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It seems that most Premier League teams would see his appointment as a risk, as when the teams around the bottom fired their managers he didn’t seem to be a front runner for any of those jobs.

Even teams in League 1 and 2 may see him as a risk. Like others have said, being a top player doesn’t guarantee success as a manager even when starting lower down. Who was the last PL player who succeeded when starting in the lower leagues? Hasselbaink at Burton maybe?

Perhaps his best chance at club level would be when foreign owners invest in a club and want a “name” to boost interest, like when Zola replaced Rowett at Birmingham…but that could also work against him because we all know how that turned out.

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1 hour ago, GrahamC said:

Didn't he win something like Sports Personality of the year once?

Then it was revealed he had his lawyers take out a super injunction to stop them revealing details of his clearly messy domestic life?

So not only is he a shit, but he then tries to hide the fact.

Wales are welcome to him, but let's face it, Bale & Ramsey aside most of the rest of their team are really English, anyway..

I remember Private Eye at the time printed a Manchester Utd team sheet with Neville etc. in it but in Giggs`s position it had `Unnamed Premier League Player`

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3 minutes ago, South-of-river said:

So apparently Phil Neville is eyeing up the England (women’s) job.... still I give him more credit to start somewhere.. rather than try and EXPECT more than what he deserves. 

Apparently Neville has been approached regarding this position....but different to him eyeing it up....but as you say, fair play for wanting to prove himself rather than expect to walk into a glamorous role just because he won a few medals...that’s if he accepts the job!

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3 minutes ago, BS4 on Tour... said:

Apparently Neville has been approached regarding this position....but different to him eyeing it up....but as you say, fair play for wanting to prove himself rather than expect to walk into a glamorous role just because he won a few medals...that’s if he accepts the job!

Sorry heard he’s been interviewed... and interested... my bad. 

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1 hour ago, South-of-river said:

Sorry heard he’s been interviewed... and interested... my bad. 

Spoiled his chances when he the Welsh FA asked what transfer kitty is available during the January window.

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On 12/01/2018 at 21:09, South-of-river said:

Sorry heard he’s been interviewed... and interested... my bad. 

 

On 12/01/2018 at 22:21, downendcity said:

Spoiled his chances when he the Welsh FA asked what transfer kitty is available during the January window.

@downendcity South of River’s post was about Phil Neville being linked to the England women’s managerial post...

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Inspired appointment.

Apparently when he was interviewed for the Swansea job, he was asked what he would do to improve results.

His response was to say to "get the players to work harder".

The questioner paused, expecting him to expand on it, with examples of say, changes in the training schedules, a different fitness regime, etc, but this was his complete answer.

At least we know why they then appointed Bob Bradley instead..

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7 hours ago, GrahamC said:

Inspired appointment.

Apparently when he was interviewed for the Swansea job, he was asked what he would do to improve results.

His response was to say to "get the players to work harder".

The questioner paused, expecting him to expand on it, with examples of say, changes in the training schedules, a different fitness regime, etc, but this was his complete answer.

At least we know why they then appointed Bob Bradley instead..

Well I for one am looking forward to his first post match interview after they`ve been mullered by someone like Latvia.

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7 hours ago, GrahamC said:

Inspired appointment.

Apparently when he was interviewed for the Swansea job, he was asked what he would do to improve results.

His response was to say to "get the players to work harder".

The questioner paused, expecting him to expand on it, with examples of say, changes in the training schedules, a different fitness regime, etc, but this was his complete answer.

At least we know why they then appointed Bob Bradley instead..

If they were Going for a Welsh Rookie ex_player  - Bellamys credentials are better than Giggs … Like Giggs a top player but understands the game to inside and out and a great listen IMO

been doing his badges and loving coaching Cardiff’s Academy 

and is a mile sharper than Giiggs

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3 minutes ago, ZiderEyed said:

Absolutely no charisma whatsoever, at least Bellamy seems like a laugh/mad bastard.

So what attracted you to your millionaire football playing brother-in-Law? :P

Always liked Bellamy, played on the edge, sometimes over it, but never gave less than 100%

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3 hours ago, Raging_Robin said:

Literally got this job based on his name alone.  What motivation is there for young managers these days? You could be a complete professor of the game, but you can miss out on roles simply because someone is a "name". 

Nonsense, he could swerve into the dressing room , do a couple of step overs and bingo ! Match won .

Other managers are evidently going to be inferior to Mr Giggs who spent his whole career at Personchester Utd. so I don't see a problem . 

 

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3 hours ago, Raging_Robin said:

Literally got this job based on his name alone.  What motivation is there for young managers these days? You could be a complete professor of the game, but you can miss out on roles simply because someone is a "name". 

If I was a young coach setting out ,I'd change my name by deed poll to Paul Scholes, job's mine ! 

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On 12/01/2018 at 17:30, ChippenhamRed said:

He spent years watching and learning from one of the greatest managers of all time. And he was also in charge of United briefly. He played for Wales, they are a small nation, and it’s not a particularly prestigious appointment.

Don’t find it that outrageous or strange.

I would like to change my mind please...

 

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