Redstreet Posted January 12, 2018 Share Posted January 12, 2018 I appreciate this thread may be of little interest to contributors given everything to be covered for BCFC but I cannot for the life of me see how Ryan Giggs can be in pole position for the Welsh National job . No management experience but constantly touted as a candidate , I recall linked to MUFC Happy to be enlightened Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lrrr Posted January 12, 2018 Share Posted January 12, 2018 Wales job isn't big enough for him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spoons Posted January 12, 2018 Share Posted January 12, 2018 300k per year isn't very much either for a national team job? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Army 75 Posted January 12, 2018 Share Posted January 12, 2018 4 minutes ago, Redstreet said: I appreciate this thread may be of little interest to contributors given everything to be covered for BCFC but I cannot for the life of me see how Ryan Giggs can be in pole position for the Welsh National job . No management experience but constantly touted as a candidate , I recall linked to MUFC Happy to be enlightened Totally agree. Personally think he’s a ***** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rudolf Hucker Posted January 12, 2018 Share Posted January 12, 2018 They'll need to appoint another manager for friendly matches because Giggs won't be available for them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChippenhamRed Posted January 12, 2018 Share Posted January 12, 2018 8 minutes ago, Redstreet said: I appreciate this thread may be of little interest to contributors given everything to be covered for BCFC but I cannot for the life of me see how Ryan Giggs can be in pole position for the Welsh National job . No management experience but constantly touted as a candidate , I recall linked to MUFC Happy to be enlightened He spent years watching and learning from one of the greatest managers of all time. And he was also in charge of United briefly. He played for Wales, they are a small nation, and it’s not a particularly prestigious appointment. Don’t find it that outrageous or strange. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leveller Posted January 12, 2018 Share Posted January 12, 2018 4 minutes ago, Rudolf Hucker said: They'll need to appoint another manager for friendly matches because Giggs won't be available for them. However, home games will be played at Old Trafford. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redstreet Posted January 12, 2018 Author Share Posted January 12, 2018 3 minutes ago, Red Army 75 said: Totally agree. Personally think he’s a ***** I assume they are short of candidates or haven’t done a more creative search . I guess their manager has to be Welsh given their previous comments on “ not employ an English manager “ so a successful mainland European Manager would not be in the running . I see Sheffield Wednesday have appointed Jos Luhaky , a Dutch Manager operating in Bundesleague . Not saying Wales would have looked at it from that viewpoint but an interesting comparative appointment for a “ bigger than championship “ club . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redstreet Posted January 12, 2018 Author Share Posted January 12, 2018 2 minutes ago, ChippenhamRed said: He spent years watching and learning from one of the greatest managers of all time. And he was also in charge of United briefly. He played for Wales, they are a small nation, and it’s not a particularly prestigious appointment. Don’t find it that outrageous or strange. Ok get that thought . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joe jordans teeth Posted January 12, 2018 Share Posted January 12, 2018 18 minutes ago, ChippenhamRed said: He spent years watching and learning from one of the greatest managers of all time. And he was also in charge of United briefly. He played for Wales, they are a small nation, and it’s not a particularly prestigious appointment. Don’t find it that outrageous or strange. Perfect job for him,Wales and his miserable face can fail together Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
City_pete1 Posted January 12, 2018 Share Posted January 12, 2018 Not exactly big competition.. Bellamy...! http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/42665268 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BanburyRed Posted January 12, 2018 Share Posted January 12, 2018 10 minutes ago, City_pete1 said: Not exactly big competition.. Bellamy...! http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/42665268 David? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCFC Rich Posted January 12, 2018 Share Posted January 12, 2018 50 minutes ago, Redstreet said: I appreciate this thread may be of little interest to contributors given everything to be covered for BCFC but I cannot for the life of me see how Ryan Giggs can be in pole position for the Welsh National job . No management experience but constantly touted as a candidate , I recall linked to MUFC Happy to be enlightened It's not that abnormal with many national teams. Jurgen Klinsmann did this with Germany, Mark Hughes's 1st job was as Wales manager. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swanker Posted January 12, 2018 Share Posted January 12, 2018 Song for Ryan Giggs anyone? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Posted January 12, 2018 Share Posted January 12, 2018 2 minutes ago, swanker said: Song for Ryan Giggs anyone? Brothers in arms. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wendyredredrobin Posted January 12, 2018 Share Posted January 12, 2018 1 minute ago, swanker said: Song for Ryan Giggs anyone? Yeah, Ryan Giggs, Ryan Giggs, does your wife know where you are? Will anyone with a wife want to play for him? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swanker Posted January 12, 2018 Share Posted January 12, 2018 2 minutes ago, wendyredredrobin said: Yeah, Ryan Giggs, Ryan Giggs, does your wife know where you are? Will anyone with a wife want to play for him? Especially when he plays away from home. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KeepUpLino Posted January 12, 2018 Share Posted January 12, 2018 1 hour ago, Redstreet said: I appreciate this thread may be of little interest to contributors given everything to be covered for BCFC but I cannot for the life of me see how Ryan Giggs can be in pole position for the Welsh National job . No management experience but constantly touted as a candidate , I recall linked to MUFC Happy to be enlightened How can a man with zero integrity manage a team of players ffs... blokes a disgrace!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
South-of-river Posted January 12, 2018 Share Posted January 12, 2018 He comes across as quite arrogant tbh.. what’s wrong with starting in the lower leagues and working up, he’d get a lot more respect for it instead of thinking he deserves a “big” club as his first job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted January 12, 2018 Share Posted January 12, 2018 I don’t think he’s prepared to learn his trade at League One or Two....and rightly mist chairmen above those leagues are wary of appointing someone with little / no experience and no affinity to their club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
South-of-river Posted January 12, 2018 Share Posted January 12, 2018 3 minutes ago, Davefevs said: I don’t think he’s prepared to learn his trade at League One or Two....and rightly mist chairmen above those leagues are wary of appointing someone with little / no experience and no affinity to their club. Absolutely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedRaw Posted January 12, 2018 Share Posted January 12, 2018 14 minutes ago, Super said: Brothers in arms. Brothers in wife Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bar BS3 Posted January 12, 2018 Share Posted January 12, 2018 1 hour ago, Spoons said: 300k per year isn't very much either for a national team job? True. But then it’s not a proper country..! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigTone Posted January 12, 2018 Share Posted January 12, 2018 9 minutes ago, Bar BS3 said: True. But then it’s not a proper country..! I'll happily take 300k for basically 2 months work Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Up The City! Posted January 12, 2018 Share Posted January 12, 2018 Why don't they go for Giggs and Bellamy ? That would be quite exciting imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
downendcity Posted January 12, 2018 Share Posted January 12, 2018 1 hour ago, ChippenhamRed said: He spent years watching and learning from one of the greatest managers of all time. And he was also in charge of United briefly. He played for Wales, they are a small nation, and it’s not a particularly prestigious appointment. Don’t find it that outrageous or strange. Remember him being interviewed when he took on the Man Utd temporary manager job. Asked what was the first thing he did on his appointment, he said that he'd given himself a new playing contract. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoystonFoote'snephew Posted January 12, 2018 Share Posted January 12, 2018 5 minutes ago, Up The City! said: Why don't they go for Giggs and Bellamy ? That would be quite exciting imo. Who’d want those two when they could appoint Ian Dowie. Better still would be if that prize plank Gareth Southgate would apply. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
petehinton Posted January 12, 2018 Share Posted January 12, 2018 1 hour ago, ChippenhamRed said: He spent years watching and learning from one of the greatest managers of all time. And he was also in charge of United briefly. He played for Wales, they are a small nation, and it’s not a particularly prestigious appointment. Don’t find it that outrageous or strange. Darren Ferguson is the son of said manager - and he's a ******* shit manager Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KeepUpLino Posted January 12, 2018 Share Posted January 12, 2018 8 minutes ago, Up The City! said: Why don't they go for Giggs and Bellamy ? That would be quite exciting imo. The bloke cheated on his own brother FFS, how can anyone take this dick seriously? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redapple Posted January 12, 2018 Share Posted January 12, 2018 56 minutes ago, Davefevs said: I don’t think he’s prepared to learn his trade at League One or Two....and rightly mist chairmen above those leagues are wary of appointing someone with little / no experience and no affinity to their club. Bang on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pongo88 Posted January 12, 2018 Share Posted January 12, 2018 Giggs has no relevant managerial experience and no great allegiance to Wales as he hardly turned up for friendly matches. He is also a moral scumbag as he had an 8 year “affair” with his brother’s wife. If he was appointed as manager, what message would it send Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lrrr Posted January 12, 2018 Share Posted January 12, 2018 1 hour ago, Davefevs said: I don’t think he’s prepared to learn his trade at League One or Two....and rightly mist chairmen above those leagues are wary of appointing someone with little / no experience and no affinity to their club. Don't think he wants a championship job either Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrahamC Posted January 12, 2018 Share Posted January 12, 2018 Didn't he win something like Sports Personality of the year once? Then it was revealed he had his lawyers take out a super injunction to stop them revealing details of his clearly messy domestic life? So not only is he a shit, but he then tries to hide the fact. Wales are welcome to him, but let's face it, Bale & Ramsey aside most of the rest of their team are really English, anyway.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KeepUpLino Posted January 12, 2018 Share Posted January 12, 2018 4 minutes ago, hodge said: Don't think he wants a championship job either Let’s be honest Hodge, no one wants him either? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobBobSuperBob Posted January 12, 2018 Share Posted January 12, 2018 Will only be available for Friendlies As for Craig Bellamy - doing it the right way doing his badges and coaching Academy Kids at Cardiff Talks a lot of sense as a pundit and I think he’ll make a decent manager / head coach , if not right now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lrrr Posted January 12, 2018 Share Posted January 12, 2018 1 minute ago, KeepUpLino said: Let’s be honest Hodge, no one wants him either? Pretty much Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KeepUpLino Posted January 12, 2018 Share Posted January 12, 2018 Has he even been offered work anywhere in the football league? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobBobSuperBob Posted January 12, 2018 Share Posted January 12, 2018 Doesn’t have much to say or add or appear to have much interest , in the Salford documentaries - maybe he’d show more interest in the Welsh Job Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocking Red Cyril Posted January 12, 2018 Share Posted January 12, 2018 2 hours ago, Spoons said: 300k per year isn't very much either for a national team job? U having a laugh 300 k is a big salary in any ones book. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lrrr Posted January 12, 2018 Share Posted January 12, 2018 7 minutes ago, Rocking Red Cyril said: U having a laugh 300 k is a big salary in any ones book. Southgate is England's lowest paid manager in 16 years at £1.8m a year, Hodgson was paid £3.5m a year and Capello was £6m. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChippenhamRed Posted January 12, 2018 Share Posted January 12, 2018 1 hour ago, petehinton said: Darren Ferguson is the son of said manager - and he's a ******* shit manager 28 minutes ago, JonDolman said: Many great players have learnt from great managers and have gone on to be useless managers themselves. You can't guess who is going to be a good manager. No one knows what decisions they will make. Most people thought Gary Neville would be a great manager because he, like giggs, learnt from fergie, and mainly because he sounded good on sky sports. Means f all really. I don’t disagree with this. I’m not defending Giggs, I’m offering reasons why he might be considered and why it’s not as strange as the OP is making it out to be. If the Welsh are keen to appoint a Welshman - as they always have done - then the options are limited. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dman_Red Posted January 12, 2018 Share Posted January 12, 2018 It seems that most Premier League teams would see his appointment as a risk, as when the teams around the bottom fired their managers he didn’t seem to be a front runner for any of those jobs. Even teams in League 1 and 2 may see him as a risk. Like others have said, being a top player doesn’t guarantee success as a manager even when starting lower down. Who was the last PL player who succeeded when starting in the lower leagues? Hasselbaink at Burton maybe? Perhaps his best chance at club level would be when foreign owners invest in a club and want a “name” to boost interest, like when Zola replaced Rowett at Birmingham…but that could also work against him because we all know how that turned out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lanterne Rouge Posted January 12, 2018 Share Posted January 12, 2018 1 hour ago, GrahamC said: Didn't he win something like Sports Personality of the year once? Then it was revealed he had his lawyers take out a super injunction to stop them revealing details of his clearly messy domestic life? So not only is he a shit, but he then tries to hide the fact. Wales are welcome to him, but let's face it, Bale & Ramsey aside most of the rest of their team are really English, anyway.. I remember Private Eye at the time printed a Manchester Utd team sheet with Neville etc. in it but in Giggs`s position it had `Unnamed Premier League Player` Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
South-of-river Posted January 12, 2018 Share Posted January 12, 2018 So apparently Phil Neville is eyeing up the England (women’s) job.... still I give him more credit to start somewhere.. rather than try and EXPECT more than what he deserves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BS4 on Tour... Posted January 12, 2018 Share Posted January 12, 2018 3 minutes ago, South-of-river said: So apparently Phil Neville is eyeing up the England (women’s) job.... still I give him more credit to start somewhere.. rather than try and EXPECT more than what he deserves. Apparently Neville has been approached regarding this position....but different to him eyeing it up....but as you say, fair play for wanting to prove himself rather than expect to walk into a glamorous role just because he won a few medals...that’s if he accepts the job! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
South-of-river Posted January 12, 2018 Share Posted January 12, 2018 3 minutes ago, BS4 on Tour... said: Apparently Neville has been approached regarding this position....but different to him eyeing it up....but as you say, fair play for wanting to prove himself rather than expect to walk into a glamorous role just because he won a few medals...that’s if he accepts the job! Sorry heard he’s been interviewed... and interested... my bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Cloud Posted January 12, 2018 Share Posted January 12, 2018 they ruled out many candidates when the Welsh FA Chief said he'll "definitely not English" - naturally let off for being xenophobic as he wasn't English of course but who's bothered... :-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
downendcity Posted January 12, 2018 Share Posted January 12, 2018 2 hours ago, KeepUpLino said: The bloke cheated on his own brother FFS, how can anyone take this dick seriously? His sister -in-law did - seriously ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
downendcity Posted January 12, 2018 Share Posted January 12, 2018 1 hour ago, South-of-river said: Sorry heard he’s been interviewed... and interested... my bad. Spoiled his chances when he the Welsh FA asked what transfer kitty is available during the January window. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BS4 on Tour... Posted January 15, 2018 Share Posted January 15, 2018 On 12/01/2018 at 21:09, South-of-river said: Sorry heard he’s been interviewed... and interested... my bad. On 12/01/2018 at 22:21, downendcity said: Spoiled his chances when he the Welsh FA asked what transfer kitty is available during the January window. @downendcity South of River’s post was about Phil Neville being linked to the England women’s managerial post... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BS4 on Tour... Posted January 15, 2018 Share Posted January 15, 2018 Looks like Giggs has landed the job then ?! http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/42684241 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrahamC Posted January 15, 2018 Share Posted January 15, 2018 Inspired appointment. Apparently when he was interviewed for the Swansea job, he was asked what he would do to improve results. His response was to say to "get the players to work harder". The questioner paused, expecting him to expand on it, with examples of say, changes in the training schedules, a different fitness regime, etc, but this was his complete answer. At least we know why they then appointed Bob Bradley instead.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lanterne Rouge Posted January 15, 2018 Share Posted January 15, 2018 7 hours ago, GrahamC said: Inspired appointment. Apparently when he was interviewed for the Swansea job, he was asked what he would do to improve results. His response was to say to "get the players to work harder". The questioner paused, expecting him to expand on it, with examples of say, changes in the training schedules, a different fitness regime, etc, but this was his complete answer. At least we know why they then appointed Bob Bradley instead.. Well I for one am looking forward to his first post match interview after they`ve been mullered by someone like Latvia. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bryans Left Peg Posted January 15, 2018 Share Posted January 15, 2018 I've never liked Giggs. I hope he/Wales fail. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobBobSuperBob Posted January 15, 2018 Share Posted January 15, 2018 7 hours ago, GrahamC said: Inspired appointment. Apparently when he was interviewed for the Swansea job, he was asked what he would do to improve results. His response was to say to "get the players to work harder". The questioner paused, expecting him to expand on it, with examples of say, changes in the training schedules, a different fitness regime, etc, but this was his complete answer. At least we know why they then appointed Bob Bradley instead.. If they were Going for a Welsh Rookie ex_player - Bellamys credentials are better than Giggs … Like Giggs a top player but understands the game to inside and out and a great listen IMO been doing his badges and loving coaching Cardiff’s Academy and is a mile sharper than Giiggs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
One BCFC Posted January 15, 2018 Share Posted January 15, 2018 Never liked the bloke, perfect fit for Wales, I do wonder how he will motivate the players to appear in Friendlies though? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted January 15, 2018 Share Posted January 15, 2018 He’s so dull too, wouldn’t inspire or motivate me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZiderEyed Posted January 15, 2018 Share Posted January 15, 2018 2 hours ago, Davefevs said: He’s so dull too, wouldn’t inspire or motivate me. Absolutely no charisma whatsoever, at least Bellamy seems like a laugh/mad bastard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted January 15, 2018 Share Posted January 15, 2018 3 minutes ago, ZiderEyed said: Absolutely no charisma whatsoever, at least Bellamy seems like a laugh/mad bastard. So what attracted you to your millionaire football playing brother-in-Law? Always liked Bellamy, played on the edge, sometimes over it, but never gave less than 100% Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Assassin Reid Posted January 15, 2018 Share Posted January 15, 2018 On 1/12/2018 at 18:21, swanker said: Song for Ryan Giggs anyone? Family affair - Mary J Blige Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major Isewater Posted January 16, 2018 Share Posted January 16, 2018 On 12/01/2018 at 19:53, BigTone said: I'll happily take 300k for basically 2 months work A pay cut Tone ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loco Rojo Posted January 16, 2018 Share Posted January 16, 2018 Ryan Giggs. Priceless. If I was Welsh I'd rather have an Englishman in charge Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Posted January 16, 2018 Share Posted January 16, 2018 Maybe England should appoint Beckham. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigTone Posted January 16, 2018 Share Posted January 16, 2018 4 hours ago, Major Isewater said: A pay cut Tone ? Don't want to seem greedy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major Isewater Posted January 16, 2018 Share Posted January 16, 2018 3 hours ago, Raging_Robin said: Literally got this job based on his name alone. What motivation is there for young managers these days? You could be a complete professor of the game, but you can miss out on roles simply because someone is a "name". Nonsense, he could swerve into the dressing room , do a couple of step overs and bingo ! Match won . Other managers are evidently going to be inferior to Mr Giggs who spent his whole career at Personchester Utd. so I don't see a problem . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major Isewater Posted January 16, 2018 Share Posted January 16, 2018 3 hours ago, Raging_Robin said: Literally got this job based on his name alone. What motivation is there for young managers these days? You could be a complete professor of the game, but you can miss out on roles simply because someone is a "name". If I was a young coach setting out ,I'd change my name by deed poll to Paul Scholes, job's mine ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChippenhamRed Posted January 17, 2018 Share Posted January 17, 2018 On 12/01/2018 at 17:30, ChippenhamRed said: He spent years watching and learning from one of the greatest managers of all time. And he was also in charge of United briefly. He played for Wales, they are a small nation, and it’s not a particularly prestigious appointment. Don’t find it that outrageous or strange. I would like to change my mind please... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScottishRed Posted January 17, 2018 Share Posted January 17, 2018 28 minutes ago, ChippenhamRed said: I would like to change my mind please... This is a spoof CR? If it is for real............... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChippenhamRed Posted January 17, 2018 Share Posted January 17, 2018 51 minutes ago, ScottishRed said: This is a spoof CR? If it is for real............... I have no reason to believe it’s anything other than 100% genuine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScottishRed Posted January 17, 2018 Share Posted January 17, 2018 15 minutes ago, ChippenhamRed said: I have no reason to believe it’s anything other than 100% genuine. I suspect you are right - good luck Wales, you are going to need it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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