GrahamC Posted March 3, 2018 Share Posted March 3, 2018 Any ideas what that was all about? At least 3 riot vans parked up outside and absolutely loads of them in full riot gear hanging around by the Dolman after the game. Sheffield Wednesday have no reputation for trouble at all and most people who were at the game were far more interested in keeping warm. Operation Overtime strikes again? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedLionLad Posted March 3, 2018 Share Posted March 3, 2018 I'd say there were as many on duty today as there were against Leeds and Cardiff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red-Robbo Posted March 3, 2018 Share Posted March 3, 2018 Quite agree. Totally OTT. Vans at the top of Winterstoke Road and one outside the Luckwell too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedLionLad Posted March 3, 2018 Share Posted March 3, 2018 If it wasn't essential, they shouldn't have travelled Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
red panda Posted March 3, 2018 Share Posted March 3, 2018 Maybe they all read the "weather" thread and decided they needed to demonstrate they had enough manpower to cover the match. Everybody happy now??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 3, 2018 Share Posted March 3, 2018 The 100 or so Willem fans that came over? Seemed to be two coppers every few hundred yards up north street. Total overkill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phileas Fogg Posted March 3, 2018 Share Posted March 3, 2018 2 minutes ago, Tomarse said: The 100 or so Willem fans that came over? Seemed to be two coppers every few hundred yards up north street. Total overkill Liked seeing that vid of the Willem fans. Wasn’t there today, were they singing all game in the Lansdown? If they were, it’ll be first time ever there’s been an atmosphere in that stand! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Dawe Posted March 3, 2018 Share Posted March 3, 2018 12 minutes ago, GrahamC said: Any ideas what that was all about? At least 3 riot vans parked up outside and absolutely loads of them in full riot gear hanging around by the Dolman after the game. Sheffield Wednesday have no reputation for trouble at all and most people who were at the game were far more interested in keeping warm. Operation Overtime strikes again? Little bit of shenanigans at H&C after the 4:1 two years ago (Grand National Day), might be related to that? Coppers arrived and bundled the visitors into vehicles and took them off to TM. We were right in the thick of it, for a moment. I'm getting a bit too past it for that sort of thing nowadays, tbf. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lrrr Posted March 3, 2018 Share Posted March 3, 2018 Wasn't there but from everything I've read and seen pictures of it sounds like massive overkill, from all that was said about emergency services being needed elsewhere and Julie saying officers had rest days cancelled, why were there that many there? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Esmond Million's Bung Posted March 3, 2018 Share Posted March 3, 2018 One of the Wednesday forums are claiming that their fans were fighting amongst themselves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevthered Posted March 3, 2018 Share Posted March 3, 2018 29 minutes ago, GrahamC said: Any ideas what that was all about? At least 3 riot vans parked up outside and absolutely loads of them in full riot gear hanging around by the Dolman after the game. Sheffield Wednesday have no reputation for trouble at all and most people who were at the game were far more interested in keeping warm. Operation Overtime strikes again? Speed cameras broken I suppose Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sticks 1969 Posted March 3, 2018 Share Posted March 3, 2018 i think when we played them in the early 2000 it was quite naughty up around clifton and in hotwells....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rymiller Posted March 3, 2018 Share Posted March 3, 2018 There was a planned first defence (or similar group) march in the city centre that was only cancelled yesterday due to the weather so there was a lot of spare police on duty Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrahamC Posted March 3, 2018 Author Share Posted March 3, 2018 6 minutes ago, rymiller said: There was a planned first defence (or similar group) march in the city centre that was only cancelled yesterday due to the weather so there was a lot of spare police on duty Doing what? **** all, just stood about. They could have made themselves useful & cleared some snow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
East End Old Boy Posted March 3, 2018 Share Posted March 3, 2018 I did ask a copper, but didn’t get a satisfactory answer, which was “free cakes on offer” It’d be more interested if @JulieH would enlighten us please? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tin Soldier Posted March 3, 2018 Share Posted March 3, 2018 There is plenty of history between us and them! FB been busy in certain closed forums - allegedly. OB are always hacking in to them - allegedly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rule The Waves Posted March 3, 2018 Share Posted March 3, 2018 17 minutes ago, sticks 1969 said: i think when we played them in the early 2000 it was quite naughty up around clifton and in hotwells....... Yep - think it was around 2002 / 2003. Was a good old toe to toe on the Waterfront as City exited the Mardyke at the same time as Weds exited the Pumphouse. IIRC there’d was a bit of set to at the Avon Gorge Hotel earlier in the day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coombsy Posted March 3, 2018 Share Posted March 3, 2018 24 minutes ago, Esmond Million's Bung said: One of the Wednesday forums are claiming that their fans were fighting amongst themselves. Yes took a few police to remove him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sticks 1969 Posted March 3, 2018 Share Posted March 3, 2018 2 minutes ago, Rule The Waves said: Yep - think it was around 2002 / 2003. Was a good old toe to toe on the Waterfront as City exited the Mardyke at the same time as Weds exited the Pumphouse. IIRC there’d was a bit of set to at the Avon Gorge Hotel earlier in the day. yes that was the game i was thinking about . they brought a few lads down that day .all good fun back in the day................... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eddie Notgetinya Posted March 3, 2018 Share Posted March 3, 2018 Yawn lets have a go at the police As a cop am I allowed to go to Ashton gate as a fan when I'm off duty because it seems I wouldn't be welcome? Ridiculous Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
East End Old Boy Posted March 3, 2018 Share Posted March 3, 2018 1 minute ago, NorwichbasedWurzel said: Yawn lets have a go at the police As a cop am I allowed to go to Ashton gate as a fan when I'm off duty because it seems I wouldn't be welcome? Ridiculous Think you’re missing the point, the comments are down to numbers, there were more police there today than any recent game I can remember. Perhaps that’s how the attendance was announced as 22,000? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eddie Notgetinya Posted March 3, 2018 Share Posted March 3, 2018 1 minute ago, East End Old Boy said: Think you’re missing the point, the comments are down to numbers, there were more police there today than any recent game I can remember. Perhaps that’s how the attendance was announced as 22,000? A wild stab in the dark. - there was probably some intelligence that trouble was planned and as such a policing plan was put together to stop/minimise it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted March 3, 2018 Share Posted March 3, 2018 The far right march and concerns about the Willem II lot is my guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
East End Old Boy Posted March 3, 2018 Share Posted March 3, 2018 2 minutes ago, NorwichbasedWurzel said: A wild stab in the dark. - there was probably some intelligence that trouble was planned and as such a policing plan was put together to stop/minimise it That was the general consensus of the guys I was with, the presence was significant and covering most of the outside of the ground. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bristol Rob Posted March 3, 2018 Share Posted March 3, 2018 7 minutes ago, Mr Popodopolous said: The far right march and concerns about the Willem II lot is my guess. Was there a far right march? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Posted March 3, 2018 Share Posted March 3, 2018 Basically crapped themselves because Willem were here. They don’t seem to grasp that we are friends and show each other generous hospitality with zero trouble. For some reason they think it’s all about trouble. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Son of Fred Posted March 3, 2018 Share Posted March 3, 2018 1 hour ago, Red-Robbo said: Quite agree. Totally OTT. Vans at the top of Winterstoke Road and one outside the Luckwell too. Well,you know how those OAP's can be... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arrytheb Posted March 3, 2018 Share Posted March 3, 2018 12 minutes ago, East End Old Boy said: Think you’re missing the point, the comments are down to numbers, there were more police there today than any recent game I can remember. Perhaps that’s how the attendance was announced as 22,000? But with respect, why does it matter how many are there? If people have no intention of causing trouble then doesn't really matter does it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
East End Old Boy Posted March 3, 2018 Share Posted March 3, 2018 2 minutes ago, Harry said: Basically crapped themselves because Willem were here. They don’t seem to grasp that we are friends and show each other generous hospitality with zero trouble. For some reason they think it’s all about trouble. Where were they drinking before the game, can’t say saw them anywhere? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Son of Fred Posted March 3, 2018 Share Posted March 3, 2018 2 minutes ago, Harry said: Basically crapped themselves because Willem were here. They don’t seem to grasp that we are friends and show each other generous hospitality with zero trouble. For some reason they think it’s all about trouble. Something about "running on rails"...two dimensional thinking-but only on the good days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
East End Old Boy Posted March 3, 2018 Share Posted March 3, 2018 3 minutes ago, arrytheb said: But with respect, why does it matter how many are there? If people have no intention of causing trouble then doesn't really matter does it? You’re absolutely right, but saw less against Millwall/ Cardiff, so it was just very unusual! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Posted March 3, 2018 Share Posted March 3, 2018 14 minutes ago, East End Old Boy said: Where were they drinking before the game, can’t say saw them anywhere? Lions. They were in the top tier of the West stand, next to the away fans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted March 3, 2018 Share Posted March 3, 2018 19 minutes ago, Bristol Rob said: Was there a far right march? Scheduled but cancelled I believe. I am sure @Julie H will explain all in due course, as to the unusually high police presence and particularly for a match such as this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bristol Rob Posted March 3, 2018 Share Posted March 3, 2018 1 minute ago, Mr Popodopolous said: Scheduled but cancelled I believe. I am sure @Julie H will explain all in due course, as to the unusually high police presence and particularly for a match such as this. Hopefully cancelled due to lack of support. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gazza1982 Posted March 3, 2018 Share Posted March 3, 2018 The EDL march was cancelled because of the weather so the police got sent to the gate instead Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted March 3, 2018 Share Posted March 3, 2018 5 minutes ago, Bristol Rob said: Hopefully cancelled due to lack of support. Out of reactions but agreed. In general... Did the Willem lot contain a 'risk' element within perhaps? Worry about a pyro being let off maybe as is more common in European football another possibility? Police presence to deter this one theory. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bristol Rob Posted March 3, 2018 Share Posted March 3, 2018 22 minutes ago, gazza1982 said: The EDL march was cancelled because of the weather so the police got sent to the gate instead Send 'em all 'ome! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid in the Riot Posted March 3, 2018 Share Posted March 3, 2018 1 hour ago, GrahamC said: Any ideas what that was all about? At least 3 riot vans parked up outside and absolutely loads of them in full riot gear hanging around by the Dolman after the game. Sheffield Wednesday have no reputation for trouble at all and most people who were at the game were far more interested in keeping warm. Operation Overtime strikes again? Sheffield Wed most definitely do have a rep for trouble. Owls Crime Squad. 2003 they brought an impressive mob down to AG and later that season in 2004 City took an even more impressive and much bigger mob to Hillsborough. Having witnessed some of it first hand that day they were on their toes. Little bit of trouble today apparently after. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daored Posted March 3, 2018 Share Posted March 3, 2018 28 minutes ago, Kid in the Riot said: Sheffield Wed most definitely do have a rep for trouble. Owls Crime Squad. 2003 they brought an impressive mob down to AG and later that season in 2004 City took an even more impressive and much bigger mob to Hillsborough. Having witnessed some of it first hand that day they were on their toes. Little bit of trouble today apparently after. Wednesday brought a few today fair play to them but quickly sent on their toes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northern Red Posted March 3, 2018 Share Posted March 3, 2018 Remember there being a fair bit of bother outside after the game at their place in 2004, the one where we had 5k or so there and lost to virtually the last kick of the game. SYP were absolute knobs that day too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JulieH Posted March 3, 2018 Share Posted March 3, 2018 It is correct that there was a march planned in Bristol for today involving some members of perceived right wing groups. There was also information that a counter protest was organised by left wing group members also. The march was cancelled yesterday afternoon and although it was unlikely anyone would continue to travel we could not be certain this was the case so some police officers already warned to work remained in the Bristol area . other officers resourced to work it were dropped back to core response policing. the football game was policed as a b grade which is not as many police as Cardiff Leeds or millwall. No officers travelled from south torkshire police due to weather conditions yesterday 4 Dutch police officers assisted us with policing of the Dutch fans , none of whom presented any policing issues as a result 1 male arrrsted from Sheffield Wednesday following a disturbance in the crowd during the first half . He is currently still in custody with us . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Tel Posted March 3, 2018 Share Posted March 3, 2018 Police presence was all to do with the size of todays attendance. There were 22000 of us there today, which of course included the 7000 invisible men, woman and children that we could see right through to view their red seats!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BRISTOL86 Posted March 3, 2018 Share Posted March 3, 2018 Apparently some Wednesday fans were singing in Ashton Road, but luckily there were some fans on hand to dish out some swift justice so the police didn’t have to step in to curtail the singing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Posted March 3, 2018 Share Posted March 3, 2018 3 minutes ago, BRISTOL86 said: Apparently some Wednesday fans were singing in Ashton Road, but luckily there were some fans on hand to dish out some swift justice so the police didn’t have to step in to curtail the singing. Not the reason it happened but you keep protecting the bullies, good on you squire Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luke_bristol Posted March 3, 2018 Share Posted March 3, 2018 7 minutes ago, BRISTOL86 said: Apparently some Wednesday fans were singing in Ashton Road, but luckily there were some fans on hand to dish out some swift justice so the police didn’t have to step in to curtail the singing. Derp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AppyDAZE Posted March 3, 2018 Share Posted March 3, 2018 Totally depends on what this "swift justice" is. I imagine our lovable BCFC protection boys told the Wednesday noisey lot to jolly well shut up or I shall have to call a policeman (or woman, Julie) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lenred Posted March 3, 2018 Share Posted March 3, 2018 39 minutes ago, JulieH said: It is correct that there was a march planned in Bristol for today involving some members of perceived right wing groups. There was also information that a counter protest was organised by left wing group members also. The march was cancelled yesterday afternoon and although it was unlikely anyone would continue to travel we could not be certain this was the case so some police officers already warned to work remained in the Bristol area . other officers resourced to work it were dropped back to core response policing. the football game was policed as a b grade which is not as many police as Cardiff Leeds or millwall. No officers travelled from south torkshire police due to weather conditions yesterday 4 Dutch police officers assisted us with policing of the Dutch fans , none of whom presented any policing issues as a result 1 male arrrsted from Sheffield Wednesday following a disturbance in the crowd during the first half . He is currently still in custody with us . 4 Dutch police travelled all the way to Bristol, because of 100 Dutch fans attending a city game? Really? I can't believe the police presence today, completely over the top, yet you don't see a copper from one week to the next in normal life! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedLionLad Posted March 3, 2018 Share Posted March 3, 2018 3 hours ago, Coombsy said: Yes took a few police to remove him A few? I counted two coachloads !!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedLionLad Posted March 3, 2018 Share Posted March 3, 2018 57 minutes ago, JulieH said: It is correct that there was a march planned in Bristol for today involving some members of perceived right wing groups. There was also information that a counter protest was organised by left wing group members also. The march was cancelled yesterday afternoon and although it was unlikely anyone would continue to travel we could not be certain this was the case so some police officers already warned to work remained in the Bristol area . other officers resourced to work it were dropped back to core response policing. the football game was policed as a b grade which is not as many police as Cardiff Leeds or millwall. No officers travelled from south torkshire police due to weather conditions yesterday 4 Dutch police officers assisted us with policing of the Dutch fans , none of whom presented any policing issues as a result 1 male arrrsted from Sheffield Wednesday following a disturbance in the crowd during the first half . He is currently still in custody with us . Quiet day then. I wonder how many other crimes in the area today had so much attention paid to them? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AppyDAZE Posted March 3, 2018 Share Posted March 3, 2018 2 minutes ago, RedLionLad said: Quiet day then. I wonder how many other crimes in the area today had so much attention paid to them? Gang of 11 blokes from Sheffield trying to pass themselves off as a pro football team spotted in South Bristol call the police Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedLionLad Posted March 3, 2018 Share Posted March 3, 2018 2 minutes ago, AppyDAZE said: Gang of 11 blokes from Sheffield trying to pass themselves off as a pro football team spotted in South Bristol call the police Four Zero Over Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AppyDAZE Posted March 3, 2018 Share Posted March 3, 2018 Police presence? the Portway as ever Bath road that road going from Portishead to Clevedon the 30 zone in Failand Lawrence Weston, 20 zone Parry's lane Sea Mills, 20 stupid coming down from Leigh Woods to Bower Ashton Clevedon Southern way going onto Third way Avonmouth from the roundabout (copper with a motorbike, nice new camera and tripod) and I'm sure they still show up at that lovely location on the hill going in to Shepton Mallet by the old Babysham place... rant over for now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tin Soldier Posted March 4, 2018 Share Posted March 4, 2018 4 hours ago, Kid in the Riot said: Sheffield Wed most definitely do have a rep for trouble. Owls Crime Squad. 2003 they brought an impressive mob down to AG and later that season in 2004 City took an even more impressive and much bigger mob to Hillsborough. Having witnessed some of it first hand that day they were on their toes. Little bit of trouble today apparently after. Correct, SW have been on the radar for BCFC for a few years now. 2004 was a big away day when we did take a load after they gave it the “big un” against some young un’s at AG. 5000 odd went and there was plenty of afters at Hillsborough. This fixture will come again - mark my words. Infact you have SU end of season and there is plenty of history there also! Best get used to OB presence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JulieH Posted March 4, 2018 Share Posted March 4, 2018 16 hours ago, RedLionLad said: Quiet day then. I wonder how many other crimes in the area today had so much attention paid to them? There were officers on routine patrol also and also others helping in Somerset still trying to clear roads etc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Natchfever Posted March 4, 2018 Share Posted March 4, 2018 19 hours ago, JulieH said: It is correct that there was a march planned in Bristol for today involving some members of perceived right wing groups. There was also information that a counter protest was organised by left wing group members also. The march was cancelled yesterday afternoon and although it was unlikely anyone would continue to travel we could not be certain this was the case so some police officers already warned to work remained in the Bristol area . other officers resourced to work it were dropped back to core response policing. the football game was policed as a b grade which is not as many police as Cardiff Leeds or millwall. No officers travelled from south torkshire police due to weather conditions yesterday 4 Dutch police officers assisted us with policing of the Dutch fans , none of whom presented any policing issues as a result 1 male arrrsted from Sheffield Wednesday following a disturbance in the crowd during the first half . He is currently still in custody with us . Why were ob in the Dolman concourse half time. I saw no neo nazis or south yorkshiremen. Simply bullies. Demo scrapped so go fight crime. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AppyDAZE Posted March 4, 2018 Share Posted March 4, 2018 6 minutes ago, Loon plage said: Why were ob in the Dolman concourse half time. I saw no neo nazis or south yorkshiremen. Simply bullies. Demo scrapped so go fight crime. You just said you saw the OB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
willem ii Posted March 4, 2018 Share Posted March 4, 2018 20 hours ago, JulieH said: “4 Dutch police officers assisted us with policing of the Dutch fans , none of whom presented any policing issues as a result “ So you will say that because the 4 police officers from Tilburg were, there were no policing issues with the Dutch fans. Do you really believe in fairytales. We’re over for a party with our brothers from Bristol and see our second club play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tin Soldier Posted March 4, 2018 Share Posted March 4, 2018 JulieH is not to be trusted on here. One sided always with this lot. Lots of overtime for them. Too many corruption cases, The use of kettle tactics at football matches, you are guilty until proven innocent in there eyes! The biggest “firm” at football matches. Evil! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Club and Country Posted March 4, 2018 Share Posted March 4, 2018 That’s unreal 4 police travelled from Holland when all the willem fans did was come for a party out of interest, do our police travel over to Willem? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Natchfever Posted March 4, 2018 Share Posted March 4, 2018 11 minutes ago, Club and Country said: That’s unreal 4 police travelled from Holland when all the willem fans did was come for a party out of interest, do our police travel over to Willem? Yes they did. piss take at public expense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Natchfever Posted March 4, 2018 Share Posted March 4, 2018 16 minutes ago, GasDestroyer said: JulieH is not to be trusted on here. One sided always with this lot. Lots of overtime for them. Too many corruption cases, The use of kettle tactics at football matches, you are guilty until proven innocent in there eyes! The biggest “firm” at football matches. Evil! "Justifiable force" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tin Soldier Posted March 4, 2018 Share Posted March 4, 2018 There were A&S OB there when I went once Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poland_exile Posted March 4, 2018 Share Posted March 4, 2018 was under the impression that we do have a history with them, as others have mentioned was a bit of retribution paid to them in the early-mid 00s, quite a famous incident in a certain pub... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobintheRed Red Posted March 4, 2018 Share Posted March 4, 2018 On 03/03/2018 at 19:18, RedLionLad said: I'd say there were as many on duty today as there were against Leeds and Cardiff Easy money for them asked them out by Ashton park if they were expecting a carnavil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZiderEyed Posted March 4, 2018 Share Posted March 4, 2018 7 minutes ago, Jarman said: How many police officers at the Brizz versus Jersey Rugby? Don't answer ... daft question ... rugby fans can drink football fans into the ground and yet still behave! Explained this to you directly on 3 different threads. You're either living in a bubble or retarded. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Posted March 4, 2018 Share Posted March 4, 2018 27 minutes ago, ZiderEyed said: Explained this to you directly on 3 different threads. You're either living in a bubble or retarded. Maybe both? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedLionLad Posted March 4, 2018 Share Posted March 4, 2018 27 minutes ago, ZiderEyed said: Explained this to you directly on 3 different threads. You're either living in a bubble or retarded. I'd say it's not the bubble..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedLionLad Posted March 4, 2018 Share Posted March 4, 2018 7 hours ago, JulieH said: There were officers on routine patrol also and also others helping in Somerset still trying to clear roads etc How many arrests were made at the game? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
willem ii Posted March 5, 2018 Share Posted March 5, 2018 7 hours ago, RedLionLad said: How many arrests were made at the game? Let me guess... Beside the one arrest of the Sheffield United no City fans were arrested AS A RESULT of the fact that so many police officers were present... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TETBURY MASSIVE Posted March 5, 2018 Share Posted March 5, 2018 13 hours ago, GasDestroyer said: JulieH is not to be trusted on here. One sided always with this lot. Lots of overtime for them. Too many corruption cases, The use of kettle tactics at football matches, you are guilty until proven innocent in there eyes! The biggest “firm” at football matches. Evil! Tetbury Massive likes this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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