Top Robin Posted March 14, 2018 Share Posted March 14, 2018 .....I fear that is our playoff hopes gone. Firstly, with only a handful of games to go it keeps us well adrift of the play offs with certain teams above us and just below us really hitting form whilst we are playing poorly. Secondly, we will not go up, and don't deserve to go up, not being unable to beat the poorer or average teams in the Championship such as Ipswich and before dreadful results v Burton, Bolton and Sunderland. Some folks will be pleased we are just 'safe' and it would all be 'too soon' but personally I am really ragged off that we were so close and playing so well and for a number of reasons we have cocked up. Manager inexperience is a major factor in my opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonBCFC Posted March 14, 2018 Share Posted March 14, 2018 While a certain amount is definitely down to the Manager not closing out some of these games or having the right attaching combos, some of the slump is surely down to squad depth and injuries? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted March 14, 2018 Share Posted March 14, 2018 I think injuries mainly- key and squad players out medium-long term. Second comes luck and game management. Depth? I think we've made some errors in the market, but our depth is not too bad overall- it is just hard when you have your record signing and first reserve striker, your main RB and people like this out for a prolonged period. Plus players who can come on in short bursts, e.g. Hegeler or O'Neil to help close or slow tempo of game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RUSSEL85 Posted March 14, 2018 Share Posted March 14, 2018 "don't deserve to go up" If we get in the play offs and go up then yes, we will deserve to go up. I think there is a 25% chance of us reaching the play offs this season, and it is doable but must beat the tractor boys Saturday but after that awful performance last night I think it could well be a draw. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olé Posted March 14, 2018 Share Posted March 14, 2018 If we don't beat Ipswich by a clear seven goals I think the very existence of our football club will be in doubt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CheddarReds Posted March 14, 2018 Share Posted March 14, 2018 I don't think anyone is only happy about this season, it's tinged with disappointment where we have slipped post Christmas, but if you look at what we have achieved over the season it is positive. But I do agree that play offs are looking unlikely, especially if we don't win against the likes of Ipswich at home. While some of that is undoubtedly because of inexperience from Johnson, what do you expect? He's human, he won't get every decision right and if he was, he wouldn't be with us anyway. The business plan involves Johnson learning and developing (as a coach and manager) as well as the group he's leading. Hopefully the group and LJ hit their stride in the division at the right time which is likely a season or two away yet. Here's hoping! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wendyredredrobin Posted March 14, 2018 Share Posted March 14, 2018 Well we really do need to start scoring some points and are running out of games to do it. Not sure if its a case of the players running out of steam or the coaches running out of ideas. I am detecting a little more reluctance to tackle and players pulling out of challenges lately. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bar BS3 Posted March 14, 2018 Share Posted March 14, 2018 It’s impoosible to say “IF we don’t win this game or that game” It all depends on results in other games. We could lose to Ipswich, but remain just 3? Points off the play offs. We certainly need to start winning games again and the games against Boro, Millwall, Brentford & Sheffield are currently games that we can’t really afford to lose. There are still 27 points to play for, so nothing’s going to be decided just yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RidgeRed Posted March 14, 2018 Share Posted March 14, 2018 36 minutes ago, CheddarReds said: I don't think anyone is only happy about this season, it's tinged with disappointment where we have slipped post Christmas, but if you look at what we have achieved over the season it is positive. But I do agree that play offs are looking unlikely, especially if we don't win against the likes of Ipswich at home. While some of that is undoubtedly because of inexperience from Johnson, what do you expect? He's human, he won't get every decision right and if he was, he wouldn't be with us anyway. The business plan involves Johnson learning and developing (as a coach and manager) as well as the group he's leading. Hopefully the group and LJ hit their stride in the division at the right time which is likely a season or two away yet. Here's hoping! I agree that we can feel reasonably optimistic about the future, it's been a pretty enjoyable season even if we don't make the play-offs. However, I'm not comfortable with the idea of LJ's inexperience. He clocks up 5 years as a manager/ head coach this weekend. Yes, he's young but 5 years in the same type of work, given he's been in football all his working life, is a fair bit of experience. Still gaining experience maybe, as anyone does over the years in any job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tinmans Love Child Posted March 14, 2018 Share Posted March 14, 2018 1 hour ago, Top Robin said: .....I fear that is our playoff hopes gone. Firstly, with only a handful of games to go it keeps us well adrift of the play offs with certain teams above us and just below us really hitting form whilst we are playing poorly. Secondly, we will not go up, and don't deserve to go up, not being unable to beat the poorer or average teams in the Championship such as Ipswich and before dreadful results v Burton, Bolton and Sunderland. Some folks will be pleased we are just 'safe' and it would all be 'too soon' but personally I am really ragged off that we were so close and playing so well and for a number of reasons we have cocked up. Manager inexperience is a major factor in my opinion. Somebody posted a similar ‘if we don’t win the next game’ comment before the Burton game.....before the Preston game.....before the Wednesday game. It’s not over until it’s over, we win Saturday and Boro loose it’s game on again, we lose and boro lose it’s no change, it will go to at least the 2nd to last game I think. Granted we need to pick up some wins but there are many variables Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wendyredredrobin Posted March 14, 2018 Share Posted March 14, 2018 He should also have the benefit of all of his Dad's experience and contacts too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gert Mare Posted March 14, 2018 Share Posted March 14, 2018 56 minutes ago, JamesBCFC said: I got a spare noose if the OP wants to borrow it. I'll have it ta Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChippenhamRed Posted March 14, 2018 Share Posted March 14, 2018 The textbook “if we don’t win it’s over” thread. What if we draw and our rivals lose? That would actually be better than everyone winning. No point stating false absolutes with 9 games and countless permutations still possible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Army 75 Posted March 14, 2018 Share Posted March 14, 2018 Hope we win Saturday. Same as the last 36 years. No point second guessing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
E.J.Thribb Posted March 14, 2018 Share Posted March 14, 2018 If we don't beat Ipswich the OTIB servers will explode. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbored Posted March 14, 2018 Share Posted March 14, 2018 1 hour ago, Top Robin said: .....I fear that is our playoff hopes gone. Some folks will be pleased we are just 'safe' and it would all be 'too soon' but personally I am really ragged off that we were so close and playing so well and for a number of reasons we have cocked up. Manager inexperience is a major factor in my opinion. Another who simply doesn't get it.............. It's a ""work in progress" Regardless of where City finish this season it will still have been a very impressive and successful one. Semi - final of the EFL cup, beating PL clubs long the way and losing twice to injury time winners against a team who won it and are pissing the Premier League by a distance. A far better league position playing some great stuff and who are a joy to watch. LJ is developing our own identify but like a good things it doesn't happen overnight. Stop whinging and complaining about what has been our best season for ages. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loco Rojo Posted March 14, 2018 Share Posted March 14, 2018 A lot of comments placing blame on LJ, but shouldn't the players shoulder some of the responsibility for some of the questionable team and inividual performances on the pitch during the 90 minutes? Promotion/strong teams are based on everyone pulling in the same direction and giving 100% so surely blame or reasons for this current form sits with all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeAman08 Posted March 14, 2018 Share Posted March 14, 2018 2 hours ago, Mr Popodopolous said: I think injuries mainly- key and squad players out medium-long term. Second comes luck and game management. Depth? I think we've made some errors in the market, but our depth is not too bad overall- it is just hard when you have your record signing and first reserve striker, your main RB and people like this out for a prolonged period. Plus players who can come on in short bursts, e.g. Hegeler or O'Neil to help close or slow tempo of game. Everyone makes mistakes in the market. I think ours is magnified because we had such a small squad when LJ first took over. I know some use this as a stick to beat LJ with(he has had money) but I think it was mostly neccesity. Think depth wise we were still pretty ok but LJ’s lack of faith in some players was our downfall. He should have been making a few changes to that core XI that gave us the cup run. From October to January a very steady team and I am sure that was why we succeeded but it wore players down and we still had a few around to help. Vyner and Kelly could have played against lower teams spelling Bryan, Baker and Wright. Eliasson and Woodrow(yes Woodrow, could do a job if played in the right position) could have spelled Reid, Paterson and Brownhill. I’d argue with a few more minutes we may have seen different sides to them and they could have added to the squad. As it is, we don’t really know if they could help us. So yea I don’t think he has utilised the tools he has at his disposal. Also talked about this with how he sets up tactically against the teams that sit behind the ball. We have different options that he has refused to use. Example Eliasson stays wide and has a lovely whipped cross on him who I think could create a chance or two against a team like Burton. Instead LJ keeps the same team who have won their plaudets playing the ball on the floor through the middle and pressing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swanker Posted March 14, 2018 Share Posted March 14, 2018 1 hour ago, Robbored said: Regardless of where City finish this season it will still have been a very impressive and successful one. Not as impressive as Millwall and Sheffield Utd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScottishRed Posted March 14, 2018 Share Posted March 14, 2018 27 minutes ago, swanker said: Not as impressive as Millwall and Sheffield Utd. And I would add Preston to that list. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex_BCFC Posted March 14, 2018 Share Posted March 14, 2018 I know other results can go in our favour but if we can't beat the likes of Ipswich at home to add to our awful run then what hope do we realistically have. I think it is a must win with the likes of Boro, Brentford and Millwall still to play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redandwhitescarf Posted March 14, 2018 Share Posted March 14, 2018 It appears to be the norm before any game now to have a negative spin on the forthcoming game. We should be talking up the club and the players rather than having 22 (and counting) responses to topics such as this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbored Posted March 14, 2018 Share Posted March 14, 2018 38 minutes ago, swanker said: Not as impressive as Millwall and Sheffield Utd. We don't support either club so what's your point? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bryans Left Peg Posted March 14, 2018 Share Posted March 14, 2018 40 minutes ago, swanker said: Not as impressive as Millwall and Sheffield Utd. But more impressive than Sunderland, Burton, Brum, Barnsley, Bolton, Reading, Sheff Weds, Hull, Forest, QPR, Norwich, Leeds, Ipswich, Brentford..... etc What's your point here? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swanker Posted March 14, 2018 Share Posted March 14, 2018 2 minutes ago, Robbored said: We don't support either club so what's your point? My point is they will both finish above us after just coming up. Impressive when you think of the money a team like Millwall haven’t spent. We’re on a bit of a nosedive and I’m not looking forward to the result when we play Millwall. I can honestly see us getting turned right over up there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CheddarReds Posted March 14, 2018 Share Posted March 14, 2018 3 hours ago, RidgeRed said: I agree that we can feel reasonably optimistic about the future, it's been a pretty enjoyable season even if we don't make the play-offs. However, I'm not comfortable with the idea of LJ's inexperience. He clocks up 5 years as a manager/ head coach this weekend. Yes, he's young but 5 years in the same type of work, given he's been in football all his working life, is a fair bit of experience. Still gaining experience maybe, as anyone does over the years in any job. Agree to a certain extent and if/when mistakes have/are made again that's an issue, but with how quickly the game evolves 20 years in management can still not be enough experience to get it all right. It was only last night on BT Sport Mourinho's tactics were questioned on whether they are now outdated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swanker Posted March 14, 2018 Share Posted March 14, 2018 8 minutes ago, Bryans Left Peg said: But more impressive than Sunderland, Burton, Brum, Barnsley, Bolton, Reading, Sheff Weds, Hull, Forest, QPR, Norwich, Leeds, Ipswich, Brentford..... etc What's your point here? We got Hull at home soon. Fancy our chances do you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bryans Left Peg Posted March 14, 2018 Share Posted March 14, 2018 5 minutes ago, swanker said: We got Hull at home soon. Fancy our chances do you? Based on form, not really. But we beat them 3-2 away, plus that has no relevance to what you said. A season should be judged over a season, not judged on one, or ten games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbored Posted March 14, 2018 Share Posted March 14, 2018 3 minutes ago, swanker said: My point is they will both finish above us after just coming up. Impressive when you think of the money a team like Millwall haven’t spent. We’re on a bit of a nosedive and I’m not looking forward to the result when we play Millwall. I can honestly see us getting turned right over up there. If we miss out on the pray offs then so what? Very few of us were expecting to have such a good season - despite all the long term injuries and yet some still feel the To whinge and complain........... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bar BS3 Posted March 14, 2018 Share Posted March 14, 2018 1 hour ago, swanker said: Not as impressive as Millwall and Sheffield Utd. Or Man City. What’s your point..?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Dawe Posted March 14, 2018 Share Posted March 14, 2018 26 minutes ago, Redandwhitescarf said: It appears to be the norm before any game now to have a negative spin on the forthcoming game. We should be talking up the club and the players rather than having 22 (and counting) responses to topics such as this. We talked our chances up ahead of Sunderland at home the other week, as I recall. Which might go some way to explaining your first sentence there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted March 14, 2018 Share Posted March 14, 2018 1 hour ago, JoeAman08 said: Everyone makes mistakes in the market. I think ours is magnified because we had such a small squad when LJ first took over. I know some use this as a stick to beat LJ with(he has had money) but I think it was mostly neccesity. That’s actually a very good point, and needs to be factored in. I’d forgotten that when I said something along the lines of "it feels a bit like a numbers games". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swanker Posted March 14, 2018 Share Posted March 14, 2018 12 minutes ago, Bar BS3 said: Or Man City. What’s your point..?! Okay Toss, I get your point! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MC RISK77 Posted March 14, 2018 Share Posted March 14, 2018 4 hours ago, Top Robin said: .....I fear that is our playoff hopes gone. Firstly, with only a handful of games to go it keeps us well adrift of the play offs with certain teams above us and just below us really hitting form whilst we are playing poorly. Secondly, we will not go up, and don't deserve to go up, not being unable to beat the poorer or average teams in the Championship such as Ipswich and before dreadful results v Burton, Bolton and Sunderland. Some folks will be pleased we are just 'safe' and it would all be 'too soon' but personally I am really ragged off that we were so close and playing so well and for a number of reasons we have cocked up. Manager inexperience is a major factor in my opinion. Think you are right mate Saturday while not must win does feel as though it is. yep I also agree with manager inexperience but pleased with progress this year..we will finish 8th or 9th imo and I would have taken that all day long I’m august with an amazing cup run and beating 4 prem teams along the way. for me it has also been my most enjoyable season watching city bar 89-90 in my time following since 85. i worry about hanging on to our best players and think if we don’t go up flint and Bryan will go in the summer big losses but 15m will be a tidy amount to reinvest. i believe in the plan long term so enjoying the ride. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pillred Posted March 14, 2018 Share Posted March 14, 2018 31 minutes ago, swanker said: My point is they will both finish above us after just coming up. Impressive when you think of the money a team like Millwall haven’t spent. We’re on a bit of a nosedive and I’m not looking forward to the result when we play Millwall. I can honestly see us getting turned right over up there. not sure how you can say they WILL both finish above us, are you the next Dr who. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swanker Posted March 14, 2018 Share Posted March 14, 2018 17 minutes ago, Robbored said: If we miss out on the pray offs then so what? Very few of us were expecting to have such a good season - despite all the long term injuries and yet some still feel the To whinge and complain........... If we miss out on the playoffs? If we make the playoffs I’ll eat my hat. I admit we’ve had a run of hard game and injuries, but we’re okay now. I’m not whinging I’m disappointed with some of our performance. For example that bloke who scored a wonder goal against us for Bolton hasn’t scored since. Now there’s a shocker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MC RISK77 Posted March 14, 2018 Share Posted March 14, 2018 3 hours ago, Robbored said: Another who simply doesn't get it.............. It's a ""work in progress" Regardless of where City finish this season it will still have been a very impressive and successful one. Semi - final of the EFL cup, beating PL clubs long the way and losing twice to injury time winners against a team who won it and are pissing the Premier League by a distance. A far better league position playing some great stuff and who are a joy to watch. LJ is developing our own identify but like a good things it doesn't happen overnight. Stop whinging and complaining about what has been our best season for ages. Robbo you polarise opinions but this is spot on...I am enjoying steady progress Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swanker Posted March 14, 2018 Share Posted March 14, 2018 8 minutes ago, JamesBCFC said: Seeing as you already know this as an absolute certainty, what where the results of our games (and theirs) for the rest of the season) Might as well make some money off of that knowledge. Or, have you asserted your pessimistic view as a fact? It’s not a fact just a probability mate. I’ll be there Saturday, but all my opptamism has gone. We’ve become limp! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bryans Left Peg Posted March 14, 2018 Share Posted March 14, 2018 4 minutes ago, tinman85 said: I won't be making the trip on Sat. After watching that excuse of a performance at Burton we have no hope. Funny how everyone else beats crappy Burton and we come close to losing to them. So poor. 4 minutes ago, swanker said: It’s not a fact just a probability mate. I’ll be there Saturday, but all my opptamism has gone. We’ve become limp! You two are the ficklest of the fickle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redandwhitescarf Posted March 14, 2018 Share Posted March 14, 2018 36 minutes ago, Robbored said: If we miss out on the pray offs then so what? Very few of us were expecting to have such a good season - despite all the long term injuries and yet some still feel the To whinge and complain........... Let’s hope our prayers are answered Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bryans Left Peg Posted March 14, 2018 Share Posted March 14, 2018 7 minutes ago, tinman85 said: I won't be making the trip on Sat. After watching that excuse of a performance at Burton we have no hope. Funny how everyone else beats crappy Burton and we come close to losing to them. So poor. 3 minutes ago, JamesBCFC said: Everyone except Sheffield Wednesday, Barnsley, Norwich, Ipswich, Forest, Reading, Bolton, Brentford for starters. So thats 1/3 of the division minimum. They beat Cardiff (away), Millwall & Fulham too off the top of my head. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EmissionImpossible Posted March 14, 2018 Share Posted March 14, 2018 9 minutes ago, tinman85 said: If I lived in Bristol are locally then I'd go. But it's a 4 hour trip for me there and then the same back. Sod that You won’t be missed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BanburyRed Posted March 14, 2018 Share Posted March 14, 2018 3 hours ago, JamesBCFC said: Absolutely everything is LJs fault. From Wenger becoming less successful at Arsenal, to the assasination of Archduke Franz Ferdinand and the resulting World War. Surely he's to blame for more than that?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mozo Posted March 14, 2018 Share Posted March 14, 2018 I agree that failure to win will make a massive dent in our chances of making the playoffs. I'm pretty certain, however, that the season will be remembered for some excellent performances, beating Man Utd and decent final league position. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BS4 on Tour... Posted March 14, 2018 Share Posted March 14, 2018 6 hours ago, Top Robin said: .....I fear that is our playoff hopes gone. Firstly, with only a handful of games to go it keeps us well adrift of the play offs with certain teams above us and just below us really hitting form whilst we are playing poorly. Secondly, we will not go up, and don't deserve to go up, not being unable to beat the poorer or average teams in the Championship such as Ipswich and before dreadful results v Burton, Bolton and Sunderland. Some folks will be pleased we are just 'safe' and it would all be 'too soon' but personally I am really ragged off that we were so close and playing so well and for a number of reasons we have cocked up. Manager inexperience is a major factor in my opinion. It ain’t over until it’s mathematically impossible for us to make the play offs....but yep, it’s been very disappointing to see the post Xmas slump, especially as the eyes of the football world were on us due to the cup run...LJ was being cited as a ‘forward thinking young coach’ and our style of play was being lauded far and wide with many observers saying we gave Man City their hardest game of the season...but then it all seems to have imploded somewhat and we’ve been generally woeful in 2018....big shame... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BanburyRed Posted March 14, 2018 Share Posted March 14, 2018 21 minutes ago, JamesBCFC said: Much more, those are just two examples from the top of a list that goes from "Aardman Animations warehouse burning down" to "Zebra hunting" Other notable entries are 9/11, the extinction of Dinosaurs, global warming and Malaria. Some say that the original versions of The Bible actually said "Lee Johnson" instead of "The Devil". I hear he's in the frame for the Salisbury nerve agent attack.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bar BS3 Posted March 14, 2018 Share Posted March 14, 2018 19 minutes ago, BanburyRed said: I hear he's in the frame for the Salisbury nerve agent attack.... Should have been easy enough to carry out. For someone who invented & spread the AIDS virus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChippenhamRed Posted March 14, 2018 Share Posted March 14, 2018 3 hours ago, tinman85 said: I won't be making the trip on Sat. After watching that excuse of a performance at Burton we have no hope. Funny how everyone else beats crappy Burton and we come close to losing to them. So poor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redrascal2 Posted March 14, 2018 Share Posted March 14, 2018 8 hours ago, Top Robin said: .....I fear that is our playoff hopes gone. Firstly, with only a handful of games to go it keeps us well adrift of the play offs with certain teams above us and just below us really hitting form whilst we are playing poorly. Secondly, we will not go up, and don't deserve to go up, not being unable to beat the poorer or average teams in the Championship such as Ipswich and before dreadful results v Burton, Bolton and Sunderland. Some folks will be pleased we are just 'safe' and it would all be 'too soon' but personally I am really ragged off that we were so close and playing so well and for a number of reasons we have cocked up. Manager inexperience is a major factor in my opinion. Haven't they gone already. Other teams are grinding out results when they count. But we cannot seem to deliver when the pressure is on.. As worrying is the current run of form or lack of it that LJ seems unable to turn around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FNQ Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 11 hours ago, Top Robin said: .....I fear that is our playoff hopes gone. Firstly, with only a handful of games to go it keeps us well adrift of the play offs with certain teams above us and just below us really hitting form whilst we are playing poorly. Secondly, we will not go up, and don't deserve to go up, not being unable to beat the poorer or average teams in the Championship such as Ipswich and before dreadful results v Burton, Bolton and Sunderland. Some folks will be pleased we are just 'safe' and it would all be 'too soon' but personally I am really ragged off that we were so close and playing so well and for a number of reasons we have cocked up. Manager inexperience is a major factor in my opinion. Message to the OP..... "There is a difference between you and me. We both looked into the abyss, but when it looked back at us… you blinked." - BATMAN I'm going for us to beat Ipswich and finish in 6th spot with 75pts.... Looking at Derby's run in, I reckon that they'll be the ones from the current top 6 to miss out... COYR's!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major Isewater Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 12 hours ago, JamesBCFC said: Absolutely everything is LJs fault. From Wenger becoming less successful at Arsenal, to the assasination of Archduke Franz Ferdinand and the resulting World War. Franz is dead ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swanker Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 10 hours ago, JamesBCFC said: Well if it isnt a fact then dont state it as a fact. 10 hours ago, Bryans Left Peg said: You two are the ficklest of the fickle. And you my friend are a Toss. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swanker Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 9 hours ago, JamesBCFC said: Much more, those are just two examples from the top of a list that goes from "Aardman Animations warehouse burning down" to "Zebra hunting" Other notable entries are 9/11, the extinction of Dinosaurs, global warming and Malaria. Some say that the original versions of The Bible actually said "Lee Johnson" instead of "The Devil". You’re becoming evangelical on here mate, over zealous. You remind me of a quote by Yosser Hughes. “ Some people talk to themselves and others talk out their arse” you’re boring so bore off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Son of Fred Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 11 hours ago, MC RISK77 said: Robbo you polarise opinions but this is spot on...I am enjoying steady progress Then the pressure will really be on for you next season... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Top Robin Posted March 15, 2018 Author Share Posted March 15, 2018 13 hours ago, Loco Rojo said: A lot of comments placing blame on LJ, but shouldn't the players shoulder some of the responsibility for some of the questionable team and inividual performances on the pitch during the 90 minutes? Promotion/strong teams are based on everyone pulling in the same direction and giving 100% so surely blame or reasons for this current form sits with all. What frustrates me even more is that Cardiff lost 4 in a row at the end of December and because Warnock is a wily and experienced manager they turned that slump around..........something we are struggling to do. Many may dislike him but you can't argue with his managerial skills. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daored Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 16 hours ago, RUSSEL85 said: "don't deserve to go up" If we get in the play offs and go up then yes, we will deserve to go up. I think there is a 25% chance of us reaching the play offs this season, and it is doable but must beat the tractor boys Saturday but after that awful performance last night I think it could well be a draw. Agree , the argument about do we deserve to go up is interesting. Our form has certainly dropped off but by the same token , with the possible exception of Wolves not one team has been consistent all season. Fulham’s form to an extent has been the opposite of ours , awful at the start but strong now. Do they not deserve promotion? Who goes up / down is judged over the season , all teams will have good / bad runs it’s the team that’s most consistent over the whole season that deserve to go or down Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reddogkev Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 I don't think we need solely to beat Ipswich, I feel that we have to get 6 points from the next 2 games. This is also to restore players' confidence and belief. I'd be very happy with a win and a draw, but 2 wins would put us back on track for securing the top 6 place we desire. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 16 hours ago, JoeAman08 said: Everyone makes mistakes in the market. I think ours is magnified because we had such a small squad when LJ first took over. I know some use this as a stick to beat LJ with(he has had money) but I think it was mostly neccesity. Think depth wise we were still pretty ok but LJ’s lack of faith in some players was our downfall. He should have been making a few changes to that core XI that gave us the cup run. From October to January a very steady team and I am sure that was why we succeeded but it wore players down and we still had a few around to help. Vyner and Kelly could have played against lower teams spelling Bryan, Baker and Wright. Eliasson and Woodrow(yes Woodrow, could do a job if played in the right position) could have spelled Reid, Paterson and Brownhill. I’d argue with a few more minutes we may have seen different sides to them and they could have added to the squad. As it is, we don’t really know if they could help us. So yea I don’t think he has utilised the tools he has at his disposal. Also talked about this with how he sets up tactically against the teams that sit behind the ball. We have different options that he has refused to use. Example Eliasson stays wide and has a lovely whipped cross on him who I think could create a chance or two against a team like Burton. Instead LJ keeps the same team who have won their plaudets playing the ball on the floor through the middle and pressing. Agreed in general- Walsh, Kent are 2 more examples, and of course Vyner and Kelly 2 more who could have been used more and used better IMO. Eliason another too, like you say whipped crosses- still losing quite a few key and squad players as we had, really didn't help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCFC_Dan Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 6 hours ago, Robert the bruce said: Then the pressure will really be on for you next season... Why? I can understand the players and management feeling pressure but why would the supporters? Is it wrong to just enjoy football? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redstreet Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 4 hours ago, reddogkev said: I don't think we need solely to beat Ipswich, I feel that we have to get 6 points from the next 2 games. This is also to restore players' confidence and belief. I'd be very happy with a win and a draw, but 2 wins would put us back on track for securing the top 6 place we desire. To get 6th IMO need 76 points so 5 wins and a draw from remaining games and one loss . However this division is so unpredictable . I reckon it will go to last game . We still have a chance of 6th , win all remaining home games and one away draw should do it . Can do this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major Isewater Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 1 hour ago, BCFC_Dan said: Why? I can understand the players and management feeling pressure but why would the supporters? Is it wrong to just enjoy football? Stupid question. Joking aside, I rarely enjoy football when watching City , the tension is often too much . I can enjoy the match afterwards, the skills on show and sometimes the result. I can watch games where City aren't implicated but the lack of emotional connection makes the experience a bit tepid . In fact I now realise that I don't like football. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swede Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 19 hours ago, JamesBCFC said: Everyone except Sheffield Wednesday, Barnsley, Norwich, Ipswich, Forest, Reading, Bolton, Brentford for starters. So thats 1/3 of the division minimum. AND Fulham! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
City Cat Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 10 hours ago, Major Isewater said: Franz is dead ? I'll check with the Kaiser and get back to you.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major Isewater Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 8 minutes ago, City Cat said: I'll check with the Kaiser and get back to you.... Cheers, chief . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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