reddogkev Posted April 5, 2018 Report Share Posted April 5, 2018 Is Lee developing each season as a manager? I'm accepting the likely outcome that we'll still be a Championship team next year, so my thought relates to Lee's ability and whether his experience gained with us this season will enable him to push us on again next year - perhaps either top 2 or play-off certs. Are we seeing the signs that he is improving? Logically, the answer has to be yes, based on the transformation we have seen with City since last year's relegation fight. If he continues to develop like he has so far, next season looks very promising indeed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major Isewater Posted April 5, 2018 Report Share Posted April 5, 2018 We will see next season... and the season after , and the season after , and the season after , Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted April 5, 2018 Report Share Posted April 5, 2018 Yes... If he learns from it. Looking at some of the tactics and particularly on the road in recent weeks though, I query the speed at which this occur, unfortunately. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bristolcitysweden Posted April 5, 2018 Report Share Posted April 5, 2018 Don't understand the British obsession about managers. Great players manage without a manager and adopt to what is happening out there. Online.. A managers rule is to support confidence of his players. And to be sacked. It's not an orchestra we are talking about. Drottningens uppgift är att lägga ägg, drönarnas att befrukta drottningar. Allt arbete inom bisamhället uträttas av arbetsbina. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meh Posted April 5, 2018 Report Share Posted April 5, 2018 FFS - I thought we were going up this year - your posts all season convinced me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bryans Left Peg Posted April 5, 2018 Report Share Posted April 5, 2018 I hope LJ learns and improves on this experience. Personally, I hope he's here for the long term. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CodeRed Posted April 5, 2018 Report Share Posted April 5, 2018 Hard to say Reading were in play offs but abysmal this year and sacked Stam, we fought relegation and did better this time. All about the quality of your players..... we still need a few despite over 30 signings under his tenure - the core of the team ((Reid,Pack,Smith,Flint, Bryan,Fielding) were already here and only a few of the signings (Baker Pisano,O'Dowda,Brownhill, Fammy) have really worked out plus the loan of Abraham. If we continue to sign the quality of Diony Kent Walsh Eliason Engval GON Hegelar. Recruitment is key, You may assume that I'm not convinced by LJ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bristolcitysweden Posted April 5, 2018 Report Share Posted April 5, 2018 We carry a few niggles and we feel ssssssssssssoooooooo sorry about ourselves. We are not the only team in the football league carrying niggles. So we bend over. Like Bristol City always does. SL pay though................ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbored Posted April 5, 2018 Report Share Posted April 5, 2018 Everybody learns and gains experience the longer they stay in the job. Its a bit of a silly question........... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Dawe Posted April 5, 2018 Report Share Posted April 5, 2018 Just now, Robbored said: Everybody learns and gains experience the longer they stay in the job. Its a bit of a silly question........... Arse Wegner? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted April 5, 2018 Report Share Posted April 5, 2018 17 minutes ago, Bryans Left Peg said: I hope LJ learns and improves on this experience. Personally, I hope he's here for the long term. I hope he is too. The longer he is here, the more likely it is because we are progressing rather than apathy from our owner. I like his affinity to the club, and we are making good (everyone’s definition of good is different) progress. This season isn’t over. The form trend is poor, but it can be turned around. No idea if it will....just hope we find that spark. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbored Posted April 5, 2018 Report Share Posted April 5, 2018 Just now, Jack Dawe said: Arse Wegner? And? When he first arrived at Arsenal he was a revelation. New, modern ideas in every aspects of the game and was essentially the father of the way the English game is played. Now he's past his sell by date. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted April 5, 2018 Report Share Posted April 5, 2018 1 minute ago, Robbored said: And? When he first arrived at Arsenal he was a revelation. New, modern ideas in every aspects of the game and was essentially the father of the way the English game is played. Now he's past his sell by date. Hahaha 'Everyone learns the longer they stay'; 'he was a revelation, but he is now past it' There goes the wind again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
willy bedlock Posted April 5, 2018 Report Share Posted April 5, 2018 No , square pegs round holes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbored Posted April 5, 2018 Report Share Posted April 5, 2018 4 minutes ago, 29AR said: Hahaha 'Everyone learns the longer they stay'; 'he was a revelation, but he is now past it' There goes the wind again He's old and run out of innovative ideas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reddogkev Posted April 5, 2018 Author Report Share Posted April 5, 2018 11 minutes ago, Robbored said: Everybody learns and gains experience the longer they stay in the job. Its a bit of a silly question........... Well, it's not really a bit of a silly question, how can you be sure that everybody learns the longer they stay in the job? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reddogkev Posted April 5, 2018 Author Report Share Posted April 5, 2018 44 minutes ago, Neo said: FFS - I thought we were going up this year - your posts all season convinced me. Yeah, sorry about that ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Murraysrightplum Posted April 5, 2018 Report Share Posted April 5, 2018 44 minutes ago, CodeRed said: Hard to say Reading were in play offs but abysmal this year and sacked Stam, we fought relegation and did better this time. All about the quality of your players..... we still need a few despite over 30 signings under his tenure - the core of the team ((Reid,Pack,Smith,Flint, Bryan,Fielding) were already here and only a few of the signings (Baker Pisano,O'Dowda,Brownhill, Fammy) have really worked out plus the loan of Abraham. If we continue to sign the quality of Diony Kent Walsh Eliason Engval GON Hegelar. Recruitment is key, You may assume that I'm not convinced by LJ! The recruiting hasn’t been good then you name 6 excellent signings? I don’t think he’s been any better or worse than most clubs in the transfer market. Albeit January was disappointing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbored Posted April 5, 2018 Report Share Posted April 5, 2018 13 minutes ago, reddogkev said: Well, it's not really a bit of a silly question, how can you be sure that everybody learns the longer they stay in the job? I guess it depends on the type of job.........but by and large the more experience you have in the same job the better you become at it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicken George Posted April 5, 2018 Report Share Posted April 5, 2018 I’m sure he’s always learning. But he must learn to find a way out of these horrendous runs of form that have so far plagued his every season as a manager. I’m glad that this year he has learned to not slag off his players in public. I thought he’d learned that Pack is one of the most crucial cogs in his system, but he seems to have forgotten that over the last week or so. I hope he already knows that mark Ashton is a fraud and not to be trusted. I hope he learns to recruit better and not rely on analytics as much for player recruitment - stats are good, but there’s nothing that can compare to watching a player numerous times with your own eyes. I hope he starts to do that better. I hope he doesn’t sign shitty, waste of time loan players when we have an overload of our own players. Engvall or Hinds could’ve done what Woodrow & Diony have done this season. Jonny Smith or De Girolamo could’ve done what Kent or Leko has done. Of course he’s learning, but in football you sometimes need to learn double quick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Balls Posted April 5, 2018 Report Share Posted April 5, 2018 30 minutes ago, Robbored said: Everybody learns and gains experience the longer they stay in the job. Its a bit of a silly question........... Not everybody learns. Some people clearly repeat the same mistakes over & over again. Only insight turns experience into learning. What has he learnt this season? A high press game can work well if you play the right players into the right formation. Has he learnt a Plan B or different set up that will work? Not obviously. Has he learnt that a strong midfield is the basis of any successful team? Not on the evidence of Monday. Has he learnt that just because a player can play in a position, but may be much better suited to playing elsewhere in the formation, both for the player and the team, that he should play that player in their best position and pick someone else there? After the evidence of Korey Smith at RB, Bailey Wright at LCB, & even Joe Bryan at LB, to the detriment of the team, I would really hope so, but I will remain unconvinced, until I see some tangible evidence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greengrass Posted April 5, 2018 Report Share Posted April 5, 2018 Hopefully LJ will learn from this season, in particular how to combat 'Park the bus' teams & signthe appropriate players to achieve this. Our record against them is abysmal & show no sign of improving. Also teams like Brentford tear us apart every time we play them. 0-6 on Monday would not have flattered them but 0-1 certainly flattered us. I'm still fully behind LJ & wish him wish to succeed with us in the future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cidered abroad Posted April 5, 2018 Report Share Posted April 5, 2018 1 hour ago, reddogkev said: Is Lee developing each season as a manager? I'm accepting the likely outcome that we'll still be a Championship team next year, so my thought relates to Lee's ability and whether his experience gained with us this season will enable him to push us on again next year - perhaps either top 2 or play-off certs. Are we seeing the signs that he is improving? Logically, the answer has to be yes, based on the transformation we have seen with City since last year's relegation fight. If he continues to develop like he has so far, next season looks very promising indeed. NO, he hasn't developed since he arrived! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted April 5, 2018 Report Share Posted April 5, 2018 2 hours ago, Enter Sandman said: I’m sure he’s always learning. But he must learn to find a way out of these horrendous runs of form that have so far plagued his every season as a manager. I’m glad that this year he has learned to not slag off his players in public. I thought he’d learned that Pack is one of the most crucial cogs in his system, but he seems to have forgotten that over the last week or so. I hope he already knows that mark Ashton is a fraud and not to be trusted. I hope he learns to recruit better and not rely on analytics as much for player recruitment - stats are good, but there’s nothing that can compare to watching a player numerous times with your own eyes. I hope he starts to do that better. I hope he doesn’t sign shitty, waste of time loan players when we have an overload of our own players. Engvall or Hinds could’ve done what Woodrow & Diony have done this season. Jonny Smith or De Girolamo could’ve done what Kent or Leko has done. Of course he’s learning, but in football you sometimes need to learn double quick. Interesting Wonder what Calibre Sports Group Ltd do? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobBobSuperBob Posted April 5, 2018 Report Share Posted April 5, 2018 10 minutes ago, Davefevs said: Interesting Wonder what Calibre Sports Group Ltd do? Interesting ! Tax benefits ? https://beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/company/07474069 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wibble Posted April 6, 2018 Report Share Posted April 6, 2018 LJ will have learnt so so much this season all of which will make him a much more accomplished manager. We should reap the benefits next season but football doesn't always work like that yes he'll be a better manager but that certainly doesn't guarantee you'll get more points! It's a funny old game! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted April 6, 2018 Report Share Posted April 6, 2018 8 hours ago, BobBobSuperBob said: Interesting ! Tax benefits ? https://beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/company/07474069 That’s where I looked too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redmycolour Posted April 6, 2018 Report Share Posted April 6, 2018 12 hours ago, Neo said: FFS - I thought we were going up this year - your posts all season convinced me. Ha ha ha ha, not under Lee Johnson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CIDER NOT CIDRE Posted April 6, 2018 Report Share Posted April 6, 2018 He will learn, I've faith in the man. There's a few games where he's made some considerable mistakes, and you can only learn from those. We are still fighting for play offs for goodness sake! Now, that's more than most people expected at the start of the season I'm sure. Yes, performances have dropped, but the team we were for the first 3/5 of the season was something to behold. Best football I've seen at AG since god knows when! (although that's not saying a huge amount...) My concern is not with Lee Johnson, but the potential loss of key players going into next season if we don't make the play offs. The obvious trio are; Joe Bryan - Fear he will leave. A good offer from a prem team/newly promoted prem team such as Wolves could turn his head. Bobby Reid - Will certainly have offers. TOTY etc. For an ambitious, young individual he will be looking to push on. Not sure whether we can provide that. Aden Flint - Someone will come in for him I'm sure. It's whether we can keep him this time. Luckily I'm hopeful that Baker will stay. BUT who's to say Brentford wasn't the catalyst for a huge final push for play offs and a victorious day out at Wembley eh! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbored Posted April 6, 2018 Report Share Posted April 6, 2018 26 minutes ago, Redmycolour said: Ha ha ha ha, not under Lee Johnson Why not? What do you find so amusing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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