cider-manc Posted April 13, 2018 Report Share Posted April 13, 2018 4 minutes ago, Port Said Red said: Cameron Jerome Exactly. There seems to be a theory round here that proven championship strikers are available to us, want to sign for us and would definately work out for us. Id have loved us to sign afobe or grabban but the truth is we didn’t stand a chance once wolves and villa came in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lanterne Rouge Posted April 13, 2018 Report Share Posted April 13, 2018 2 minutes ago, Ser Davos Ciderworth said: Why take the risk though? And what a risk - his club couldn’t get him out the door fast enough despite paying €€€ six months earlier. Don’t need to be on Mastermind to work that one out. We could’ve had Mitrovic or Grabban if we went for them. Fuming over the January shambles. Could we? Source? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bristolcitysweden Posted April 13, 2018 Report Share Posted April 13, 2018 Lose you money Lansdown on red. Double is at long as it takes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCFC11 Posted April 13, 2018 Report Share Posted April 13, 2018 26 minutes ago, ScottishRed said: Nope I would have done that either, but what I would have done is spend a % of that on a quality striker ON LOAN. Yeah it would cost, but it would have been short term and MAY have made the difference - as it was whatever Diony and Kent cost would have been better spent on an accumulator at Aintree tomorrow. Who in their right mind would allow a ‘quality’ striker to go out on loan??? Especially in January Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolf Island Posted April 13, 2018 Report Share Posted April 13, 2018 2 minutes ago, Red Right Hand said: Could we? Source? Just examples of who other Championship clubs got while we got LD. No “source”. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bristolcitysweden Posted April 13, 2018 Report Share Posted April 13, 2018 He is a chicken. Not a bull. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolf Island Posted April 13, 2018 Report Share Posted April 13, 2018 3 minutes ago, bristolcitysweden said: Lose you money Lansdown on red. Double is at long as it takes. There were only a few at the roulette table and we could’ve dined out on lobster but instead we chose to go home and spend our chips on a kebab. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bris Red Posted April 13, 2018 Report Share Posted April 13, 2018 You only had to look at his record this season in the french league to know the chances are he was going to be pony.. coming to a foreign country completely devoid of confidence is not what you want as a striker. Dire signing by the people who sanctioned it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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alexukhc Posted April 13, 2018 Report Share Posted April 13, 2018 Still waiting to see how he got arrested :laugh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agard Days Night Posted April 13, 2018 Author Report Share Posted April 13, 2018 Luckily it’s the last we’ll see of him, Woodrow and Engvall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agard Days Night Posted April 13, 2018 Author Report Share Posted April 13, 2018 1 hour ago, Cider-Head23 said: Well he got arrested in town on Saturday night which didn’t help. No need for lies is there. It was Sunday morning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZiderEyed Posted April 13, 2018 Report Share Posted April 13, 2018 Mon then. Whatd he do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loosey Boy Posted April 13, 2018 Report Share Posted April 13, 2018 At least we ain't wasted £6m on him! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gert Mare Posted April 13, 2018 Report Share Posted April 13, 2018 39 minutes ago, bristolcitysweden said: Convincing people he was a bull then.. Yes, a load of bull. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCFC Grim Posted April 13, 2018 Report Share Posted April 13, 2018 35 minutes ago, Ser Davos Ciderworth said: Why take the risk though? And what a risk - his club couldn’t get him out the door fast enough despite paying €€€ six months earlier. Don’t need to be on Mastermind to work that one out. We could’ve had Mitrovic or Grabban if we went for them. Fuming over the January shambles. I agree completely. It was as if the club didn't want promotion. However strange that sounds. Well bar the two you stated. I doubt we would have competed with them. That said our stock was as high as it ever will be in this division and we screwed it up. Unfortunately we've all followed this club long enough to not be too surprised. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigAl&Toby Posted April 13, 2018 Report Share Posted April 13, 2018 30 minutes ago, bristolcitysweden said: Oi oi. 2 more and you’ll hit 3000. Wonder how many actually make any sense? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BRISTOL86 Posted April 13, 2018 Report Share Posted April 13, 2018 1 hour ago, ScottishRed said: Nope I would have done that either, but what I would have done is spend a % of that on a quality striker ON LOAN. Yeah it would cost, but it would have been short term and MAY have made the difference - as it was whatever Diony and Kent cost would have been better spent on an accumulator at Aintree tomorrow. Because I’m sure we didn’t even think about that. If people think we’d have been in the mix for players like Grabban and Mitrovic they need a reality check about where we are relative to others that are doing as well as us. One season in the top half and people think we are a Villa/Derby/Boro - we ain’t. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fiale Posted April 13, 2018 Report Share Posted April 13, 2018 Not worked out, but feel as little sorry for him. He seemed so happy coming over hoping to put a bad year behind him and reignite his career. Shame really, he seemed a decent guy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BRISTOL86 Posted April 13, 2018 Report Share Posted April 13, 2018 46 minutes ago, BCFC Grim said: And if my aunt had a.......... Come on, January was a stinker. Not sure what one failed transfer in January by a completely different team has anything to do with it. I could name some successful ones to even it out if you like? As for Diony. A risk that certainly hasn't paid off, like a lot of signing to be fair. Only have to look at the core of our team to see that the recruitment has been average at best. The point is that buying ‘proven’ doesn’t mean shit, as above never likely to be beating Villa/Fulham etc to targets. We are where we are and we have to look elsewhere. Few more seasons pushing for top six and a different story but for now we’re a small club in a big league and not yet playing at the same table, so to speak. Re the overall policy - one Kodjia pays for 10 Engvalls if you like. Im happy for us to look to unearth talent that is off the radar of bigger clubs. Buying names on big wages hasn’t worked for many many clubs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BRISTOL86 Posted April 13, 2018 Report Share Posted April 13, 2018 Outrage at season ticket prices (which have risen considerably below inflation) all the while lamenting that we didn’t sign Mitrovic on £40-50k a week. Only on OTIB would that irony be lost Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolf Island Posted April 13, 2018 Report Share Posted April 13, 2018 8 minutes ago, BRISTOL86 said: The point is that buying ‘proven’ doesn’t mean shit, as above never likely to be beating Villa/Fulham etc to targets. I can see that with Villa but why do you hold Fulham in such high esteem? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major Isewater Posted April 13, 2018 Report Share Posted April 13, 2018 9 minutes ago, BRISTOL86 said: The point is that buying ‘proven’ doesn’t mean shit, as above never likely to be beating Villa/Fulham etc to targets. We are where we are and we have to look elsewhere. Few more seasons pushing for top six and a different story but for now we’re a small club in a big league and not yet playing at the same table, so to speak. Re the overall policy - one Kodjia pays for 10 Engvalls if you like. Im happy for us to look to unearth talent that is off the radar of bigger clubs. Buying names on big wages hasn’t worked for many many clubs Buying ' proven ' is , perhaps, less of a gamble than buying untested. We just need to be clever in our recruitment. We are who we are and in January that was a club on the move , second place in the Championship and seeking promotion to the Prem . " You Mr Footballer could be a hero . We'll pay you a good wage and if we go up you will be on a Prem contract " Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonBristolian Posted April 13, 2018 Report Share Posted April 13, 2018 1 hour ago, ScottishRed said: Nope I would have done that either, but what I would have done is spend a % of that on a quality striker ON LOAN. Yeah it would cost, but it would have been short term and MAY have made the difference - as it was whatever Diony and Kent cost would have been better spent on an accumulator at Aintree tomorrow. Had we done what you suggest, the ‘quality players’ that would have been available on loan would surely have been players who had excelled in the Championship, moved to the Premier League for big money and found it not worked out. And most of those with proven Championship quality - such as Grabban or Afobe or Mitrovic would have had their pick of clubs. And we are not as appealing a club as Villa, Wolves or Fulham. And none of them would be guaranteed successes in any case. Someone above asked who you would have bought in. My guess is there was no obvious candidate who had stood out in the Championship, was available on loan and wanted to join Bristol City rather than one of the bigger clubs in the division. So the club had to look elsewhere. Diony was player who excelled in Ligue 2, a division we have twice successfully recruited from before, who moved to the French top flight for big money and it did not work out. Essentially Diony was, on paper, the exact sort of loan signing you describe. It was not that the club did not do what you suggest, or at least the nearest realistic approximation of it. It is just that clubs tend to want to loan players out when they are either inexperienced, out of form or not up to standard and so any loan signing we made was sure to be a risk. It just so happened this was one that did not work out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BRISTOL86 Posted April 13, 2018 Report Share Posted April 13, 2018 36 minutes ago, Ser Davos Ciderworth said: I can see that with Villa but why do you hold Fulham in such high esteem? London, recent prem, big wages Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BRISTOL86 Posted April 13, 2018 Report Share Posted April 13, 2018 33 minutes ago, Major Isewater said: Buying ' proven ' is , perhaps, less of a gamble than buying untested. We just need to be clever in our recruitment. We are who we are and in January that was a club on the move , second place in the Championship and seeking promotion to the Prem . " You Mr Footballer could be a hero . We'll pay you a good wage and if we go up you will be on a Prem contract " League position really doesn’t matter. £10k a week if you’re 2nd vs £20k a week if you’re 10th and we lose out 99 times out of 100. That’s football. Rightly or wrongly our policy is never going to be going for the high earners and the big names as a rule. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobintheRed Red Posted April 13, 2018 Report Share Posted April 13, 2018 2 hours ago, BigTone said: Kent, Diony & Woodrow have not been the best loan signings ever made. Who on earth looked into them beforehand. Add to that the signing of Engval and you have to admit our recruitment is not very good. sack the scout Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jtc1 Posted April 13, 2018 Report Share Posted April 13, 2018 3 hours ago, Agard Days Night said: Not in the match day squad for tomorrow. Not likely to play in a City shirt again. Acknowledgement all round that this simply didn’t work out. We move on. Was shopping in Cabot Circus today whilst team was on plane. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy082005 Posted April 13, 2018 Report Share Posted April 13, 2018 Gary Johnson: " I made one of the worst signings ever when I was manager of Bristol City. Nothing tops Peter Styvar!" Lee Johnson: "hold my beer...." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScottishRed Posted April 13, 2018 Report Share Posted April 13, 2018 2 hours ago, BCFC11 said: Who in their right mind would allow a ‘quality’ striker to go out on loan??? Especially in January Maybe a PL club with a player who wanted game time and wasn't getting it there. Maybe a youngster at a PL club who wasn't quite ready for them..........I think we did that rather successfully last season Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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