REDOXO Posted May 8, 2018 Report Share Posted May 8, 2018 10 minutes ago, Davefevs said: So Bobby moved to the wing? Wasn't that where Kodjia ended before being sold? Exactly my point! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
You Do The Dziekanowski Posted May 8, 2018 Report Share Posted May 8, 2018 1 hour ago, southvillekiddy said: Thing is mate Bobby is a far better footballer than Kodjia With a year less on his contract compared to when we sold Kodjia... Upfront cash minimum £10m Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fuber Posted May 8, 2018 Report Share Posted May 8, 2018 Hogan was £9m similar age and one good season at this level as @Carey 6 said. However the advantage Reid has is a fantastic engine and passing to his game. As someone else said, best combined goals and assists in the league. £10m with a cheeky sell on % would be about right, or £8m with another £2m after 40 appearances etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silvio Dante Posted May 8, 2018 Report Share Posted May 8, 2018 I think the markets moved on even since the Hogan move (Madine for £6m? Hugill for £9m). If we work on the basis that Bobbys on less than average wages for a champ 20 goal man - say £10k per week, then by selling him we get the fee less 10% as he hasn’t asked for the move, and save c£500k in wages. A replacement will cost money and wages - say £20k per week minimum if it’s a decent sized signing. So from going to saving wages, we’re £.5m down on wages. If Reid is sold for £6m that funds a replacement at £5m + wages who may or may not come off and may or may not have resale value. If Reid’s sold for £9m, similar maths and the signing is £8m (coincidentally a Diony...). A £5m signing in today’s market is a punt - for all that Fams been good, he was a risk. So for me, if we work on the basis we have to replace him with quality, it has to be north of £10m. Or I’d take the chance and go for the top 6 with BR up front and filling the other gaps with the risk of him walking at season end. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stiler Posted May 12, 2018 Report Share Posted May 12, 2018 Unproven striker in reality as only one season, so 5 mill would represent good business with a sell on clause Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZiderEyed Posted May 14, 2018 Report Share Posted May 14, 2018 On 12/05/2018 at 10:02, stiler said: Unproven striker in reality as only one season, so 5 mill would represent good business with a sell on clause Unproven? 20 goals this season at Championship level and central to the way we play. Imo Bobby's spent this year proving himself. Any less than £8m would be a travesty. We've got to go and buy a replacement with these funds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maggersno1Fan Posted May 14, 2018 Report Share Posted May 14, 2018 This is Bristol City so probably 2.5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maggersno1Fan Posted May 14, 2018 Report Share Posted May 14, 2018 Will they buy a replacement striker with the options at the club? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gert Mare Posted May 14, 2018 Report Share Posted May 14, 2018 12 Million Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
22A Posted May 14, 2018 Report Share Posted May 14, 2018 If another club buys now, they are desperate for Bobby, so will pay over the odds. If City are desperate to sell and it's nearing the end of the transfer window, we'll drop our price. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dullmoan Tone Posted May 14, 2018 Report Share Posted May 14, 2018 I agree that we will probably be lucky to get £7m, because he clearly won't sign an extension, won't have been happy he's made to play in multiple positions in a single game (so not valued) and we cannot afford to lose £7M over the next 12 months. Its just makes me so mad when you see what we spent on Eliasson, Taylor Moore and Engval who I firmly believe will never have anything like as successful a season as Bobby. Our problem is not getting good deals selling - it's making absolutely shocking deals when buying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dolman Pragmatist Posted May 14, 2018 Report Share Posted May 14, 2018 What ever we got for Kodjia... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chinapig Posted May 14, 2018 Report Share Posted May 14, 2018 36 minutes ago, Dullmoan Tone said: I agree that we will probably be lucky to get £7m, because he clearly won't sign an extension, won't have been happy he's made to play in multiple positions in a single game (so not valued) and we cannot afford to lose £7M over the next 12 months. Its just makes me so mad when you see what we spent on Eliasson, Taylor Moore and Engval who I firmly believe will never have anything like as successful a season as Bobby. Our problem is not getting good deals selling - it's making absolutely shocking deals when buying. As part of a team by team review of the season by selected supporters (usually those who run club forums and/or blogs) on the Guardian website last week the Bournemouth guy said the persistent rumour at their end was Bobby for £12m. https://www.theguardian.com/football/2018/may/12/premier-league-2017-18-fans-verdicts-arsenal-liverpool Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dullmoan Tone Posted May 14, 2018 Report Share Posted May 14, 2018 2 hours ago, chinapig said: https://www.theguardian.com/football/2018/may/12/premier-league-2017-18-fans-verdicts-arsenal-liverpool Great article by the way - I loved the Everton fan who said "Yannick Bolasie, meanwhile, is a circus act" ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ska Junkie Posted May 14, 2018 Report Share Posted May 14, 2018 Doesn't the levy on English players start this summer in the PL? That should push Bobby's price up a bit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EnderMB Posted May 15, 2018 Report Share Posted May 15, 2018 I'm finding it really hard to see how you can justify £10m for Bobby Reid. He's a talented player, but he's only got a year left on his contract, and as a club we need to act fast. He either needs to sign a new deal or be sold. He's 25, so not old, but definitely no youngster. In terms of moving on upwards, he's got two big transfers ahead of him so now would be a good time for him to move. I think a lot of it is down to whether the club can make a proper go of it next season, and whether they can convince him of their ambitions. If they can I can see him staying, but if not I think it's time to sell up, and I reckon £6-8m is the most we'd get for him in his last year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Posted May 15, 2018 Report Share Posted May 15, 2018 6 minutes ago, EnderMB said: I'm finding it really hard to see how you can justify £10m for Bobby Reid. He's a talented player, but he's only got a year left on his contract, and as a club we need to act fast. He either needs to sign a new deal or be sold. He's 25, so not old, but definitely no youngster. In terms of moving on upwards, he's got two big transfers ahead of him so now would be a good time for him to move. I think a lot of it is down to whether the club can make a proper go of it next season, and whether they can convince him of their ambitions. If they can I can see him staying, but if not I think it's time to sell up, and I reckon £6-8m is the most we'd get for him in his last year. Once they get into the final year they tend to go for a lot less. 6M is about right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CotswoldRed Posted May 15, 2018 Report Share Posted May 15, 2018 23 minutes ago, Super said: Once they get into the final year they tend to go for a lot less. 6M is about right. Will depend on how many clubs want him. One club and £6m about right. 2 or more and £10+ easily. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Im_over_ere Posted May 15, 2018 Report Share Posted May 15, 2018 I reckon a fair value is 6-7 million, rising to 9 with incentives, and a good sell on clause. I would take this for Bobby and the same for Joe. I would also try to use the current squad and youngsters to fill the voids rather than buying replacements. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
123red1 Posted May 15, 2018 Report Share Posted May 15, 2018 I am personally surprised the valuations of Bobby Reid are so high. He hasn't signed a new deal and can leave for nothing in 12 months. He's had one good season, and is 25, if he was doing this at 21/22 I may understand it more. I could personally see the club selling for £5m with add ons, to save face of him leaving on a free. I personally hope the club sit down and iron out a new contract with me which includes a release fee of say 10-12m, and states should a Premier League club make a suitable offer then we would give him permission to talk, even if it was only a 2 year extension. Unless we can get him to sign a new deal, I can't see how the club which is run as a business can afford to have him here in September, when come January we would struggle to get 1-2m with him soon to be out of contract. All things considered I think £5m with add ons and a sell on fee, would be good business to sell. Really the club if they were so confident he would make the transition he has as a striker, should have had him sign a new deal before he even kicked a ball as a striker last season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EnderMB Posted May 15, 2018 Report Share Posted May 15, 2018 1 hour ago, CotswoldRed said: Will depend on how many clubs want him. One club and £6m about right. 2 or more and £10+ easily. Not a chance, not for a player in their last year with one good season at one club behind them. Besides, if teams were in for him they would've probably already made their move, given that it's World Cup season and clubs will be delaying their transfer activity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted May 15, 2018 Report Share Posted May 15, 2018 9 hours ago, EnderMB said: Not a chance, not for a player in their last year with one good season at one club behind them. Besides, if teams were in for him they would've probably already made their move, given that it's World Cup season and clubs will be delaying their transfer activity. I think we’ll get £8-10m (perhaps with a little add on here or there), and I think once LJ submits his plans to SL tomorrow, we’ll start to see movement and by the end of May BR and JB will no longer be City players, or 99% gone, just formalities to be done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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