ChippenhamRed Posted June 1, 2018 Report Share Posted June 1, 2018 1 minute ago, BITW said: Maybe we should refuse to play in the SKY BET championship. Why does this keep coming up? The sponsorship of the division we play in is something out of our control and does not represent the club we support. It's an obvious and easy distinction to make. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BITW Posted June 1, 2018 Report Share Posted June 1, 2018 1 minute ago, ChippenhamRed said: Why does this keep coming up? The sponsorship of the division we play in is something out of our control and does not represent the club we support. It's an obvious and easy distinction to make. So technically players are already advertising a betting company on shirt sleeves are they not? Regardless wether it’s club or league sponsor. Its obviously a lucrative deal for the club which can only be a good thing. People just love a moan at any given opportunity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lrrr Posted June 1, 2018 Report Share Posted June 1, 2018 3 minutes ago, ChippenhamRed said: I realise we're into subtleties here, but for me the difference is Mr Heineken was using his own skills to sell a unique product - his own specific beer - that benefits both the buyer and the seller. The seller gets money, the buyer gets a drink. Meanwhile Dunder entered a congested market place, offering nothing particularly unique, clearly to cash in on the lucrative gambling industry where the buyer is more likely to end up with nothing at all. They are not offering a unique skill, they are just tempting people to part with cash. It just feels a lot grubbier to me. I understand and appreciate that others might not make that distinction. To put it another way; in my eyes seeing people sat in a bookies is a lot more depressing than seeing people sat in a beer garden. So how do you feel about Heineken being part of an industry that offers alcohol at dangerously low prices? The 12 bottles for £10 deals etc which promote overdrinking. Personally don't have an issue with either being sponsors as I more believe it comes down to the individuals responsibility. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bristol Rob Posted June 1, 2018 Report Share Posted June 1, 2018 3 minutes ago, ChippenhamRed said: Why does this keep coming up? The sponsorship of the division we play in is something out of our control and does not represent the club we support. It's an obvious and easy distinction to make. I really don't recall anyone voicing a concern about the digital advertising boards displaying branding and logos from gambling companies last season, so I'm wondering what I've missed that makes the shirt sponsorship so controversial. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeh Posted June 1, 2018 Report Share Posted June 1, 2018 1 minute ago, hodge said: So how do you feel about Heineken being part of an industry that offers alcohol at dangerously low prices? The 12 bottles for £10 deals etc which promote overdrinking. Personally don't have an issue with either being sponsors as I more believe it comes down to the individuals responsibility. that went when the blame culture came in Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lrrr Posted June 1, 2018 Report Share Posted June 1, 2018 1 minute ago, Monkeh said: that went when the blame culture came in Let's get sponsored by a strip club then Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChippenhamRed Posted June 1, 2018 Report Share Posted June 1, 2018 1 minute ago, BITW said: So technically players are already advertising a betting company on shirt sleeves are they not? Regardless wether it’s club or league sponsor. Its obviously a lucrative deal for the club which can only be a good thing. People just love a moan at any given opportunity. This is a far more nuanced debate than "people just love a moan". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted June 1, 2018 Report Share Posted June 1, 2018 3 minutes ago, ChippenhamRed said: Why does this keep coming up? The sponsorship of the division we play in is something out of our control and does not represent the club we support. It's an obvious and easy distinction to make. That distinction maybe, but if you look at it from a revenue perspective, SkyBet will be giving us much more than a Dunder. I have no idea of the sums involved, but if Lancer Scott were paying the rumoured £250k per year, you’d think Dunder must be offering 2x at least. Even if 4x (£1m), that still only a small percentage of what we get from SkyBet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeh Posted June 1, 2018 Report Share Posted June 1, 2018 Just now, hodge said: Let's get sponsored by a strip club then hopefully we can stay in pole position then Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
havanatopia Posted June 1, 2018 Report Share Posted June 1, 2018 4 hours ago, Dastardly and Muttley said: Dunder? Who are they? According to City yesterday they were a world wide brand; today they are a 20 strong group of chaps in a Maltese shed. Which just goes to prove that if want to make pots of cash and fast you either go into online gaming and fleece the f--k out of the vulnerable and easily addicted or you sell them a packet of the white stuff on the street corner; much the same end result really; you end up bankrupt or dead. 4 hours ago, Olé said: I've done LOTS of business with Malta based Swedish gaming folk, and if it helps anyone, you could not meet nicer more decent people. I understand that people have issues with the morality of gaming and rightly so in some cases, but this at least should put your mind at rest about businesses in far off lands that are syphoning money into despot regimes. Swedish techies in Malta are about as chilled and well meaning as you could find. No surprise a person is chilled when they have a money calculator permanently on the wall of the shed ticking over at the rate of £76 a second. This made me laugh:- Our shared values alongside Dunder’s commitment to promoting responsible gambling ... I mean please, who are these people trying to kid. There is no such thing as 'responsible gambling' . City are starting to treat their fans like gullible idiots. I thought SL and City were better than this I really did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexukhc Posted June 1, 2018 Report Share Posted June 1, 2018 Tbh give it a couple years and Dunder will be massive, the introduction of two pound spins/ plays will kill some betting shops, as online apps they’re no closer to stopping the limit than Rag Ass Rovers are winning the premiership, it’s not good news for younger fans, may even introduce gambling to them, saying that we do play in the sky bet league, the rugby league is the Betfred premiership and championship but time will tell. Yes I now work for the biggest independent betting/ gambling company but I don’t bet or play machines, waste of monies, destroys people Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted June 1, 2018 Report Share Posted June 1, 2018 1 minute ago, hodge said: Let's get sponsored by a strip club then As the numbers go, I’d be more likely to use them that Lancer Scott, but very very small chance of either.....honestly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Esmond Million's Bung Posted June 1, 2018 Report Share Posted June 1, 2018 If we have cheer leaders they can be called the Dunderbirds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeh Posted June 1, 2018 Report Share Posted June 1, 2018 Just now, havanatopia said: According to City yesterday they were a world wide brand; today they are a 20 strong group of chaps in a Maltese shed. Which just goes to prove that if want to make pots of cash and fast you either go into online gaming and fleece the f--k out of the vulnerable and easily addicted or you sell them a packet of the white stuff on the street corner; much the same end result really; you end up bankrupt or dead. No surprise a person is chilled when they have a money calculator permanently on the wall of the shed ticking over at the rate of £76 a second. This made me laugh:- Our shared values alongside Dunder’s commitment to promoting responsible gambling ... I mean please, who are these people trying to kid. There is no such thing as 'responsible gambling' . City are starting to treat their fans like gullible idiots. I thought SL and City were better than this I really did. yes there is, I gamble £10 a week, £5 on the horse and £5 on football, I don't gamble more then I can afford, I call that pretty responsible Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChippenhamRed Posted June 1, 2018 Report Share Posted June 1, 2018 4 minutes ago, hodge said: So how do you feel about Heineken being part of an industry that offers alcohol at dangerously low prices? The 12 bottles for £10 deals etc which promote overdrinking. Personally don't have an issue with either being sponsors as I more believe it comes down to the individuals responsibility. I'm not defending Heineken as some great noble business and I don't disagree that alcohol companies also have capacity to have a negative impact on society. As I said, I realise we are in to subtleties here. It just feels to me that the recent wave of gambling businesses cropping up are a particularly grubby industry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted June 1, 2018 Report Share Posted June 1, 2018 1 minute ago, Esmond Million's Bung said: If we have cheer leaders they can be called the Dunderbirds. No strings attached Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Esmond Million's Bung Posted June 1, 2018 Report Share Posted June 1, 2018 Just now, Davefevs said: No strings attached At least they don't come from a land down Dunder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lrrr Posted June 1, 2018 Report Share Posted June 1, 2018 1 minute ago, Monkeh said: yes there is, I gamble £10 a week, £5 on the horse and £5 on football, I don't gamble more then I can afford, I call that pretty responsible Agree I used to bet £5 a week on football when I could. More recently go into a casino occasionally, start with £10 no more, if I lose it it's gone, but it's pretty much the same cost as going to the cinema. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lrrr Posted June 1, 2018 Report Share Posted June 1, 2018 Can't wait to see the next Avengers film to see Thor god of Dunder Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robin Ashton Posted June 1, 2018 Report Share Posted June 1, 2018 5 minutes ago, Esmond Million's Bung said: If we have cheer leaders they can be called the Dunderbirds. And they could perform in their dunderwear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Esmond Million's Bung Posted June 1, 2018 Report Share Posted June 1, 2018 1 minute ago, hodge said: Can't wait to see the next Avengers film to see Thor god of Dunder SL's new theme toon Dunder my thumb? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Coach Posted June 1, 2018 Report Share Posted June 1, 2018 Will Bristol City reveal their new kit today? Will Lee Johnson be Bristol City this time next year? Steve Lansdown? Friend of Bristol City, or the enemy? Stay tuned for next weeks episode of "All things Bristol City" DUNDUNDERRRRRRRRRRR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedM Posted June 1, 2018 Report Share Posted June 1, 2018 27 minutes ago, Xiled said: I guess we really don't make much profit from replica kit sales. I haven't bought a current one for many years but the thought of walking around in a shirt with the word "Dunder" emblazoned across it doesn't appeal. The club have hopefully balanced up the loss on merchandising against the sponsorship income. Adult shirt sales for 2018/19 could be pretty low.... I don’t know how many we sell but the mark up on replica kits is huge, across all clubs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merrick's Marvels Posted June 1, 2018 Report Share Posted June 1, 2018 13 minutes ago, Bristol Rob said: I really don't recall anyone voicing a concern about the digital advertising boards displaying branding and logos from gambling companies last season, so I'm wondering what I've missed that makes the shirt sponsorship so controversial. Never look at those digital boards as I don't want my retinas permanently damaged. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lrrr Posted June 1, 2018 Report Share Posted June 1, 2018 My favourite Big Bash League team is Sydney Dunder Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZiderEyed Posted June 1, 2018 Report Share Posted June 1, 2018 Christ the Dunder puns are already getting tedious, this summer is gonna be brilliant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merrick's Marvels Posted June 1, 2018 Report Share Posted June 1, 2018 28 minutes ago, Major Isewater said: Not too much because the dangers of smoking were just starting to be understood. Most people smoked back then anyway so it wasn't so much an enticement to do something that they weren't already doing but to change or strengthen the choice . Except by the tobacco companies - who knew all along! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tristan Cork Posted June 1, 2018 Report Share Posted June 1, 2018 1 hour ago, View from the Dolman said: :laugh: - I know nothing about Dunder or the deal and am not reporting on anything to do with this for the Post today - the sports dept are - but i couldn't resist the opportunity of reminding Nick Day of 'the gap'. Again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeh Posted June 1, 2018 Report Share Posted June 1, 2018 3 minutes ago, RedM said: I don’t know how many we sell but the mark up on replica kits is huge, across all clubs. prob more so for us as we produce them ourselfs instead of paying stupid sums to adidas to provide tem Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RumRed Posted June 1, 2018 Report Share Posted June 1, 2018 WTF do they see in Bristol City as a sponsorship deal? All very bizarre. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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