Lew-T Posted July 24, 2018 Report Share Posted July 24, 2018 6 minutes ago, Kodjias Wrist said: On paper that squad is pretty sexy and full of experience. Should piss the league. Stoke and Derby for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCFC11 Posted July 24, 2018 Report Share Posted July 24, 2018 28 minutes ago, Lew-T said: Derby have also bid £8m for Waghorn. This is picking up pace on social media, so it seems they’re in for both - Confirmed by Nixon. It’s easy all this business.. Absolute joke of a fee, I bet Ipswich are pissing themselves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BS4 on Tour... Posted July 24, 2018 Report Share Posted July 24, 2018 34 minutes ago, BessexRED said: Millwall finished above us, Leeds, Wednesday etc - reckon they're a step above us do you? 2 minutes ago, BessexRED said: By your horrendous logic, we're a step up from Leeds and Wednesday just because of table position. Millwall get sub 10k home fans most weeks, we get crowds they could only dream of, our crowds to Wednesday are much closer than Millwall to ours. There's a much bigger picture than just a table position from the previous season. No....look at your posts ...you insinuated that teams that finished above us aren’t a step up....and to support that you listed Millwall, Leeds and Wednesday - yet two of those clubs didn’t finish above us....but they are very established championship clubs compared to Bristol City, with much bigger crowds and I believe would be seen as a step up from Bristol City...blimey, this started with a post I made about PNE and now we are debating Yorkshire’s finest.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BS4 on Tour... Posted July 24, 2018 Report Share Posted July 24, 2018 6 minutes ago, BCFC11 said: Absolute joke of a fee, I bet Ipswich are pissing themselves. Never played lower than the premier league and championship in this country - very experienced, a fair fee for a very good player... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCFC11 Posted July 24, 2018 Report Share Posted July 24, 2018 16 minutes ago, BS4 on Tour... said: Never played lower than the premier league and championship in this country - very experienced, a fair fee for a very good player... A good player yes that’s about it from what I’ve seen of him, personally don’t think he’s all that, definitely not worth an £8m price tag. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BS4 on Tour... Posted July 24, 2018 Report Share Posted July 24, 2018 2 minutes ago, BCFC11 said: A good player yes that’s about it from what I’ve seen of him, personally don’t think he’s all that, definitely not worth an £8m price tag. So a very experienced premier league/championship player isn’t worth £8m - yet Bobby Reid is worth £10m - did you call that fee ‘a joke’ given his ‘one good season’ record? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YorkshireSection Posted July 24, 2018 Report Share Posted July 24, 2018 45 minutes ago, Dastardly and Muttley said: It is a recommendation. If we’d got Trundle at the same age as Marriott, we’d have been laughing. Instead we picked him up two/three years past his best. Still some moments of class though. It didn't really help that we played him out of position. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCFC11 Posted July 24, 2018 Report Share Posted July 24, 2018 8 minutes ago, BS4 on Tour... said: So a very experienced premier league/championship player isn’t worth £8m - yet Bobby Reid is worth £10m - did you call that fee ‘a joke’ given his ‘one good season’ record? Don’t seem to recall me saying Bobby was worth £10m tbh. He played in the SPL so yes he has played below championship level, i don’t rate him but it’s only my opinion mate no need to get your knickers in a twist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
downendcity Posted July 24, 2018 Report Share Posted July 24, 2018 8 minutes ago, YorkshireSection said: It didn't really help that we played him out of position. Im not sure it was so much that we played him out of position. At Swansea they built a team around him and it looked like he was allowed to do his own thing and demonstrate his flair. Gary Johnson's team, was a team and not built around any one player and Trundle had to play with a degree more discipline. This gave far less scope for him to turn it on, as he had done at Swansea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BS4 on Tour... Posted July 25, 2018 Report Share Posted July 25, 2018 5 hours ago, BCFC11 said: Don’t seem to recall me saying Bobby was worth £10m tbh. He played in the SPL so yes he has played below championship level, i don’t rate him but it’s only my opinion mate no need to get your knickers in a twist. I said Waghorn hadn’t played below premier league/championship level “in this country”- so your “SPL” comment is irrelevant. And by “SPL” I assume you meant the Scottish Premiership because there isn’t anything called the “SPL.” I didn’t say you had said Bobby Reid was worth £10m - you called Waghorn’s £8m price tag “a joke” so I asked you whether you thought Bobby’s price tag was “a joke” given that he had been sold for £10m, having only had one good season, whereas Waghorn, a very experienced premier league/championship player, is seemingly being valued at £2m less and you thought that fee was “a joke.” You didn’t answer that - but “no need to get your knickers in a twist...” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chipdawg Posted July 25, 2018 Report Share Posted July 25, 2018 8 hours ago, Lew-T said: Just had a look at Derby’s squad and it is massive, you’d expect a few will be on the way out if Marriot and Waghorn both go through... Goalkeepers - Scott Carson, Jon Mitchell & Kelle Roos Defenders - Richard Keogh, Curtis Davies, Alex Pearce, Craig Forsyth, Andre Wisdom, Max Lowe, Jamie Hanson, Jayden Bogle & Marcus Olsson. Midfielders - Tom Huddlestone, Craig Bryson, Mason Mount, Bradley Johnson, Jacob Butterfield, George Thorne, Joe Ledley, Timi Elsnik, Callum Guy, Harry Wilson, Tom Lawrence, Mason Bennett, Luke Thomas, Ikechi Anya, Nick Blackman, Kyle McAllistair & Kellan Gordon. Strikers - Chris Martin, Matej Vydra, Cameron Jerome, David Nugent, Charles Vernam & Offrande Zanzala Nugent to Sheff Utd has been mooted 8 hours ago, Lew-T said: Should piss the league. Stoke and Derby for me. I'd say that about Derby's squad every year though and yet they often don't make the play offs. Don't see how this year, with a rookie manager and a couple of (very talented but) inexperienced loans, it's likely to be any different Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lenred Posted July 25, 2018 Report Share Posted July 25, 2018 9 minutes ago, JonDolman said: Waghorn has never played well in the prem has he? Has he had any more than one good season at championship level? His stats certainly don’t show that he has. It’s a crazy crazy world if Martyn Waghorn is now worth £8m in today’s market! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
devoncider Posted July 25, 2018 Report Share Posted July 25, 2018 9 hours ago, Lew-T said: Just had a look at Derby’s squad and it is massive, you’d expect a few will be on the way out if Marriot and Waghorn both go through... Goalkeepers - Scott Carson, Jon Mitchell & Kelle Roos Defenders - Richard Keogh, Curtis Davies, Alex Pearce, Craig Forsyth, Andre Wisdom, Max Lowe, Jamie Hanson, Jayden Bogle & Marcus Olsson. Midfielders - Tom Huddlestone, Craig Bryson, Mason Mount, Bradley Johnson, Jacob Butterfield, George Thorne, Joe Ledley, Timi Elsnik, Callum Guy, Harry Wilson, Tom Lawrence, Mason Bennett, Luke Thomas, Ikechi Anya, Nick Blackman, Kyle McAllistair & Kellan Gordon. Strikers - Chris Martin, Matej Vydra, Cameron Jerome, David Nugent, Charles Vernam & Offrande Zanzala #BringKelleHome Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swanker Posted July 25, 2018 Report Share Posted July 25, 2018 9 hours ago, Lew-T said: Just had a look at Derby’s squad and it is massive, you’d expect a few will be on the way out if Marriot and Waghorn both go through... Goalkeepers - Scott Carson, Jon Mitchell & Kelle Roos Defenders - Richard Keogh, Curtis Davies, Alex Pearce, Craig Forsyth, Andre Wisdom, Max Lowe, Jamie Hanson, Jayden Bogle & Marcus Olsson. Midfielders - Tom Huddlestone, Craig Bryson, Mason Mount, Bradley Johnson, Jacob Butterfield, George Thorne, Joe Ledley, Timi Elsnik, Callum Guy, Harry Wilson, Tom Lawrence, Mason Bennett, Luke Thomas, Ikechi Anya, Nick Blackman, Kyle McAllistair & Kellan Gordon. Strikers - Chris Martin, Matej Vydra, Cameron Jerome, David Nugent, Charles Vernam & Offrande Zanzala Massive squad and splashing the cash. It will give me great satisfaction if it all goes wrong for them! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashtonwurzel Posted July 25, 2018 Report Share Posted July 25, 2018 1 minute ago, swanker said: Massive squad and splashing the cash. It will give me great satisfaction if it all goes wrong for them! Many on that list will be leaving. Derby have to cut their wage bill substantially over the next couple of seasons. Lampard was aware of this when he got the job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swanker Posted July 25, 2018 Report Share Posted July 25, 2018 2 minutes ago, Ashtonwurzel said: Many on that list will be leaving. Derby have to cut their wage bill substantially over the next couple of seasons. Lampard was aware of this when he got the job. Leaving where? Easier said than done! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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BobBobSuperBob Posted July 25, 2018 Report Share Posted July 25, 2018 1 hour ago, lenred said: His stats certainly don’t show that he has. It’s a crazy crazy world if Martyn Waghorn is now worth £8m in today’s market! Be wary of what stats you are basing it on len He , for example was involved in more goals (Scoring or assisting) than any other player in Championship last season Hes not a prolific scorer but a decent / (at times ‘clever’) footballer who links well , holds it up well I think he’s improved , I was impressed by him at AG last season although Ipswich were poor and thought he looked like he’d pushed his game up a notch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lenred Posted July 25, 2018 Report Share Posted July 25, 2018 2 minutes ago, BobBobSuperBob said: Be wary of what stats you are basing it on len He , for example was involved in more goals (Scoring or assisting) than any other player in Championship last season Hes not a prolific scorer but a decent / (at times ‘clever’) footballer who links well , holds it up well I think he’s improved , I was impressed by him at AG last season although Ipswich were poor and thought he looked like he’d pushed his game up a notch Fair points there Bob, especially the one regards being most involved. Can’t say I was aware of that one at all. Definitely not saying we shouldn’t be interested as like you say there’s certainly more to his game than just goals, and he always strikes me as a player that likes to be involved / doesn’t go missing / gets stuck in when needed as well. However I stand by my point that £8m still seems crazy money for him given his age and from what I have seen of him. I was a little surprised when £5m was quoted but on balance I think we would’ve been right to go for it at that price and he’d undoubtedly be a very good addition. But £8m just seems crazy. Maybe I really am just struggling to adapt to the new prices in the Championship! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BS4 on Tour... Posted July 25, 2018 Report Share Posted July 25, 2018 2 hours ago, JonDolman said: Waghorn has never played well in the prem has he? Has he had any more than one good season at championship level? He’s got a roughly one goal every three games record over an 11 year career Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeAman08 Posted July 25, 2018 Report Share Posted July 25, 2018 31 minutes ago, BS4 on Tour... said: He’s got a roughly one goal every three games record over an 11 year career Didn’t he also top the championship in goals and assists combined last season or am I being thick? Worth 8m? No In today’s market? Well yea as bids that high are being made. Ipswich in a new era and will use the funds(some of them) across the squad trying to get younger. No brainer for them but may backfire and may finally be the season they exit the championship. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin phantom Posted July 25, 2018 Admin Report Share Posted July 25, 2018 1 hour ago, BS4 on Tour... said: He’s got a roughly one goal every three games record over an 11 year career Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobBobSuperBob Posted July 25, 2018 Report Share Posted July 25, 2018 1 hour ago, lenred said: Fair points there Bob, especially the one regards being most involved. Can’t say I was aware of that one at all. Definitely not saying we shouldn’t be interested as like you say there’s certainly more to his game than just goals, and he always strikes me as a player that likes to be involved / doesn’t go missing / gets stuck in when needed as well. However I stand by my point that £8m still seems crazy money for him given his age and from what I have seen of him. I was a little surprised when £5m was quoted but on balance I think we would’ve been right to go for it at that price and he’d undoubtedly be a very good addition. But £8m just seems crazy. Maybe I really am just struggling to adapt to the new prices in the Championship! I’m with you and I wouldn’t pay anywhere near that money for him mate Just think he’s better than he’s generally perceived Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Phileas Fogg Posted July 25, 2018 Report Share Posted July 25, 2018 3 minutes ago, BobBobSuperBob said: I’m with you and I wouldn’t pay anywhere near that money for him mate Just think he’s better than he’s generally perceived I think anything below 4m would be about right.. 6.5m though a little too high. Think whoever gets him will get a good player though. If the choice was spend 1.5m on Eisa and then have 4m to spend on a quality keeper or centre midfielder I'd rather do that than go all out on Marriott. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobBobSuperBob Posted July 25, 2018 Report Share Posted July 25, 2018 11 minutes ago, Phileas Fogg said: I think anything below 4m would be about right.. 6.5m though a little too high. Think whoever gets him will get a good player though. If the choice was spend 1.5m on Eisa and then have 4m to spend on a quality keeper or centre midfielder I'd rather do that than go all out on Marriott. Agree - I didn’t think we were ever in for him were we ? And this just a hypothetical discussion ? I think if we didn’t have the numbers up front he’d do us ok , but not what we needed right now (IMHO) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phileas Fogg Posted July 25, 2018 Report Share Posted July 25, 2018 9 minutes ago, BobBobSuperBob said: Agree - I didn’t think we were ever in for him were we ? And this just a hypothetical discussion ? I think if we didn’t have the numbers up front he’d do us ok , but not what we needed right now (IMHO) I think based on what we know from the media - we were interested a few weeks ago, but didn't match their asking price and probably got irritated with Fry and MacAnthony pretty quickly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
downendcity Posted July 25, 2018 Report Share Posted July 25, 2018 21 minutes ago, BobBobSuperBob said: Agree - I didn’t think we were ever in for him were we ? And this just a hypothetical discussion ? I think if we didn’t have the numbers up front he’d do us ok , but not what we needed right now (IMHO) Im sure we were in for Marriott, but not at Posh's original asking price. Perhaps Frankie's injury changed our focus, and, as you say, we could spend the money more effectively by going for Eisa, leaving spare cash for a new keeper. Will be interesting to see it of Eisa or Marriott settles into championship football the best. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobBobSuperBob Posted July 25, 2018 Report Share Posted July 25, 2018 7 minutes ago, Phileas Fogg said: I think based on what we know from the media - we were interested a few weeks ago, but didn't match their asking price and probably got irritated with Fry and MacAnthony pretty quickly. Sorry , PF crossed wires I meant Waghorn I didn’t pick up the start of the concpversation about him I take it a general discussion rather than we were allegedly interested ? FWIW I wouldn’t pay 8million , or more for Waghorn or the money they appeared to want for Marriot although he has potential Ive kept an eye on Marriot and knew nothing about Eisa but my feeling is that , especially bearing in mind fees we’ve gone for the right one here On the clips (only) I’ve seen of Eisa he appears that he could offer what Marriot does , and more, and I like the sounds of his attitude too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chinapig Posted July 25, 2018 Report Share Posted July 25, 2018 1 minute ago, Phileas Fogg said: I think based on what we know from the media - we were interested a few weeks ago, but didn't match their asking price and probably got irritated with Fry and MacAnthony pretty quickly. Plus MacAnthony said Marriott's head was turned by the wages Derby were offering. Derby's cost cutting doesn't seem to have lasted long. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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