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7 minutes ago, ChippenhamRed said:

Real shame to lose Kalas after such an impressive start, but it does demonstrate how we’ve improved our squad depth when there’s mild concern about Baker - previously a mainstay of our defence - coming back in.

I am concerned about Baker,  but mainly about his chances of remaining  injury free rather than his ability to do a job. Still would prefer Kalas there though, a freak injury that hits us once again for weeks or months rather than the odd niggle which is healed in days. 

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This is shit news and we are cursed with injuries, but... we do have better squad depth than last season. Baker is solid cover, or we could move Kelly over and give DaSilva a run at LB. Plus Wright is almost fit. Let’s get behind whoever comes in and get some more points on the board. COYR

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No one can ever say we have had it lucky with injuries these last few seasons. I know, every club points to them, but this was a canny signing if you ask any football league follower. Real pig sick that we will be without him, but let's not forget that it wasn't too long ago we were all excited about getting Nathan Baker. Good luck, Nathan go on and prove a point to your old club on Friday my son (he's not my son btw  :laugh: although I do tend to stick up for the guy a lot. He's a good player and I trust him big time.

Carpe diem, Nathan Baker

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8 hours ago, Red DNA said:

As it’s ‘just’ a facial injury hopefully Tomas should be able to maintain his general fitness levels so he’ll be ready to start as soon as the jaw heals?

I’m certainly no expert but I don’t think it’s that simple, surely your head moves and jolts even when you are jogging. Eating might not be that simple either so perhaps lose a lot of body weight and muscle. Yes I know he can have nutrition shakes but it’s not the same.

Also he won’t be able to take part in any contact sport of any kind, match fitness and sharpness will be lost. Best just give him time to heal, he maybe back in the care of Chelsea anyway, and welcome him back when he does return.

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10 hours ago, Northern Red said:

Of those 6 weeks he's out for, remember that 2 will be when there's an international break and it doesn't look quite as bad.

It is still 8 games he possibly misses. That would mean he is fit on the 10th of November. 

Villa, Rotherham, SW, Brentford, Hull, Stoke, Reading and Preston. The good news is a lot of winnable games there even without Kalas. Baker is a top CB when fit and in the right mindset. Hopefully he can be that in most of those. That is the main problem with Baker though. Just don’t know if he will show up at his best. Kalas will be missed for sure

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6 hours ago, Super said:

Can't believe people on here slating Watkins. Bizarre.

Well. 

My initial impressions was I found it odd that he was running towards our own goal well into our own half to head the ball. Also found it odd that he didn’t see a red shirt on a six foot plus team mate doing his defensive job and trying to head the ball in the right direction away from our goal. 

Found it mightly bizarre he didn’t check to see the bloke he just laid out with what looked a serious injury was ok. 

 

Don't see any grounds to slate him at all. No, none whatsoever. 

 

Just one, though, of many incidents - like constantly chickening out of 50:50 tackles - where the whole lot of them should be slated possibly barring the ultra unfortunate Kalas and one or two others.

Anyhow, woeful team effort which will soon be forgotten if we smash Villa. I’m sure the likes of Watkins will be straining at the bit to put things right. Every confidence, after that abject performance, that they will. A hat-trick from Marley will be just fine. 

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He's tough, he'll be back. A similar injury happened to Rory Sloane who is one of our AFL players in Oz, he has had a fractured jaw, depressed cheek bone in the past & it's taken him approx 8 weeks to get back. 

Here's a clip to show the type of player he is, we need more of these.

 

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Ouch. I guess it’s just another battle scar for a defender though. Surprised Watkins came away injury free, it must have hurt them both.

Its pretty amazing what surgeons can do isn’t it, and X-rays have certainly improved. 

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3 minutes ago, PHILINFRANCE said:

I laughed at your response, but I was serious; I am genuinely intrigued.

Me too !

I wonder whether they may have done it from inside (The mouth) but looking at the x rays that can’t be so

My bet is a incision just under the jawline and out of sight but then I would have expected for them to have shaved his beard

 

I bet Tomas’s jaw has more screws in it, and is more stable than the Sags gymkana stand 

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12 minutes ago, PHILINFRANCE said:

I laughed at your response, but I was serious; I am genuinely intrigued.

Bugging me Phil so looked it up

topWhat does the operation involve?

Once you are asleep the fracture sites will be opened up. This involves making a cut on the inside of your mouth through the gum. The broken bones are then put back together and held in place with small metal plates and screws. The gum is stitched back into place with dissolvable stitches that can take a fortnight or even longer to fall out.

During the same operation it is often necessary to place wires or metal braces around your teeth so that elastic bands can be attached to them and guide your bite into the correct position after surgery. Screws inserted into the jawbone above the teeth are occasionally used instead of these wires or metal braces. Any elastic bands are not usually attached until the day after your operation, ie: your jaws will be able to move freely when you wake up from surgery.

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1 hour ago, BobBobSuperBob said:

Bugging me Phil so looked it up

topWhat does the operation involve?

Once you are asleep the fracture sites will be opened up. This involves making a cut on the inside of your mouth through the gum. The broken bones are then put back together and held in place with small metal plates and screws. The gum is stitched back into place with dissolvable stitches that can take a fortnight or even longer to fall out.

During the same operation it is often necessary to place wires or metal braces around your teeth so that elastic bands can be attached to them and guide your bite into the correct position after surgery. Screws inserted into the jawbone above the teeth are occasionally used instead of these wires or metal braces. Any elastic bands are not usually attached until the day after your operation, ie: your jaws will be able to move freely when you wake up from surgery.

Wow.

The wonders of modern surgery.

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2 hours ago, Tomarse said:

Can we get him in a oxygen tank to improve/speed up the healing?  I know the Somerset Cricket boys use one up in Bristol somewhere for some injuries?

Think that is more for muscular Tom (Oxygen flow to damaged muscle etc)

Not sure it would speed up the bone growth / healing

Infection the biggest danger of setback

Going to have to be brave contesting those first headers - must be hard psychologically

 

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6 minutes ago, PHILINFRANCE said:

All four wisdom teeth out in go is quite a painful operation, as I remember well. 

Ha ha same here mate -ended up with an infection in one side

Them were the days 

:laughcont:

In fairness , said Friday , thankfully the modern Dentists and equipment  are light years from going under gas  and dentists I encountered young !

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12 minutes ago, BobBobSuperBob said:

I had a big two  back muncher tooth out Friday - I thought that was bad enough !

Was it bottom wisdoms? They're a nightmare apparently.

I had my one of my top wisdoms taken out about 2 months ago. Dentist overdid the lidocaine and I basically slept for 24 hours! Lived on yogurt and ibuprofen for a few days but healed beautifully. Fully expected a dry socket as I do smoke (tut tut I know) but escaped it thankfully!

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8 minutes ago, Septic Peg said:

Was it bottom wisdoms? They're a nightmare apparently.

I had my one of my top wisdoms taken out about 2 months ago. Dentist overdid the lidocaine and I basically slept for 24 hours! Lived on yogurt and ibuprofen for a few days but healed beautifully. Fully expected a dry socket as I do smoke (tut tut I know) but escaped it thankfully!

Had top and bottom done same time Peg !

One side went well the Other didn’t 

Most people don’t actually have problems with wisdom teeth , especially these days , but I laugh at some of the horror stories / tales that I heard before I had mine done !

:laughcont:

Bit like the horror ‘tales’  of the BCG jab (You May be too young to have encountered them !)

 

 

 

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Ouch.

I had four wisdom teeth out at once which included the bottom two having to have a section of jaw removed.  Wasn’t too bad until the degradable stitches started to slip. Only time I’ve ever passed out due to pain*

Hope they’ve improved since then, because that injury looks really painful.  Poor bloke.

*no I haven’t given birth

 

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2 minutes ago, RumRed said:

Ouch.

I had four wisdom teeth out at once which included the bottom two having to have a section of jaw removed.  Wasn’t too bad until the degradable stitches started to slip. Only time I’ve ever passed out due to pain*

Hope they’ve improved since then, because that injury looks really painful.  Poor bloke.

*yes I haven’t given birth

 

Like shelling peas mate :thumbsup:

 

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3 hours ago, BobBobSuperBob said:

Had top and bottom done same time Peg !

One side went well the Other didn’t 

Most people don’t actually have problems with wisdom teeth , especially these days , but I laugh at some of the horror stories / tales that I heard before I had mine done !

:laughcont:

Bit like the horror ‘tales’  of the BCG jab (You May be too young to have encountered them !)

 

 

 

Did your school have the rumour that ours did that they could tell from the results whether you smoked or not? A nervous few days that was for my thirteen year old self!

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3 hours ago, Septic Peg said:

Was it bottom wisdoms? They're a nightmare apparently.

I had my one of my top wisdoms taken out about 2 months ago. Dentist overdid the lidocaine and I basically slept for 24 hours! Lived on yogurt and ibuprofen for a few days but healed beautifully. Fully expected a dry socket as I do smoke (tut tut I know) but escaped it thankfully!

' bottom  wisdoms '

Nasty place to have wisdom teeth.

:shocking:

Could come back to bite you on the bum.

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19 hours ago, BobBobSuperBob said:

Had top and bottom done same time Peg !

One side went well the Other didn’t 

Most people don’t actually have problems with wisdom teeth , especially these days , but I laugh at some of the horror stories / tales that I heard before I had mine done !

:laughcont:

Bit like the horror ‘tales’  of the BCG jab (You May be too young to have encountered them !)

 

 

 

The BCG jab. Stopped being given in Bristol just before I was born (mid 80s) but apparently still given to kids across the country?

My hubby used to be a cowman (no Wurzels jokes required lolz) for his grandad (not named Bill either lolz) and he never had the BCG even though he was around the stock from day dot. Thankfully, they never had TB but he would have been screwed.

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On 25/09/2018 at 14:21, BobBobSuperBob said:

Bugging me Phil so looked it up

topWhat does the operation involve?

Once you are asleep the fracture sites will be opened up. This involves making a cut on the inside of your mouth through the gum. The broken bones are then put back together and held in place with small metal plates and screws. The gum is stitched back into place with dissolvable stitches that can take a fortnight or even longer to fall out.

During the same operation it is often necessary to place wires or metal braces around your teeth so that elastic bands can be attached to them and guide your bite into the correct position after surgery. Screws inserted into the jawbone above the teeth are occasionally used instead of these wires or metal braces. Any elastic bands are not usually attached until the day after your operation, ie: your jaws will be able to move freely when you wake up from surgery.

I had this operation and rather than cut my "pretty" face the surgeon said he would try first to cut behind my ear and out of sight.

He would then hook everything into place and wire it all up.

When i came round from the op i had felt tip lines all over my face so as to line both cheeks up nice and level.

I thought these lines were scars for a few minutes and was a little bit worried about my looks..:laugh:

The metal (silver i think) is still inside.

Mine was not only broken but badly depressed.

I had one cut behind the ear and one just above the eye.

 

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30 minutes ago, BobbyC said:

I had this operation and rather than cut my "pretty" face the surgeon said he would try first to cut behind my ear and out of sight.

He would then hook everything into place and wire it all up.

When i came round from the op i had felt tip lines all over my face so as to line both cheeks up nice and level.

I thought these lines were scars for a few minutes and was a little bit worried about my looks..:laugh:

The metal (silver i think) is still inside.

Mine was not only broken but badly depressed.

I had one cut behind the ear and one just above the eye.

 

Wow!

And to think, this thread got derailed just because, many years ago, @BobBobSuperBob had a painful filling....

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4 minutes ago, downendcity said:

You're a greengrocer and not a maternity nurse then Bob! ?
 

I should , rather than leave my silly joke outstanding point out that I have massive , awesome , respect for mums who have to go through that - more guts than me 

I think us blokes were extremely fortunate not to have to thro that

Respect Sisters x

 

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15 hours ago, BobBobSuperBob said:

I should , rather than leave my silly joke outstanding point out that I have massive , awesome , respect for mums who have to go through that - more guts than me 

I think us blokes were extremely fortunate not to have to thro that

Respect Sisters x

 

Think they should man up tbf.

Got nowt on stubbing your toe on the ******* bed when you get up in the morning.

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