Super Posted February 10, 2019 Report Share Posted February 10, 2019 New Oldham manager. Good to see another former top player giving it a go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bryans Left Peg Posted February 10, 2019 Report Share Posted February 10, 2019 Good on him for not expecting a top club and starting at L2. Hope he fails miserably though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lrrr Posted February 10, 2019 Report Share Posted February 10, 2019 1 minute ago, Bryans Left Peg said: Good on him for not expecting a top club and starting at L2. Hope he fails miserably though. Wait for the lack of people saying it's poor him having to start at league 2 rather than at a higher club compared to Campbell Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daored Posted February 10, 2019 Report Share Posted February 10, 2019 1 minute ago, Super said: New Oldham manager. Good to see another former top player giving it a go. I really hope this works out for him. Clearly a fan of the football club so can’t question his motivation. Good to see Joey Barton, Sol Campbell taking lower league jobs and also Steven Gerrard and Frank Lampard’s Derby Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glen humphries Posted February 10, 2019 Report Share Posted February 10, 2019 Bet he could still play now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ska Junkie Posted February 10, 2019 Report Share Posted February 10, 2019 Isn't he an Oldham supporter? No doubt half the Man U youth team will be there next season. Nice to see a 'name' starting out in the lower leagues, good luck to the bloke, a great player in his day and I always enjoyed watching him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Army 75 Posted February 10, 2019 Report Share Posted February 10, 2019 Fair play Oldham fan as well. Man united youngsters galore Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BanburyRed Posted February 10, 2019 Report Share Posted February 10, 2019 5 minutes ago, Bryans Left Peg said: Good on him for not expecting a top club and starting at L2. Hope he fails miserably though. Why do you want to see him fail? What a bizarre comment. Paul Scholes' Oldham Athletic. Fair play to him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bristol Rob Posted February 10, 2019 Report Share Posted February 10, 2019 Surprised the league allowed it, given his interest in Salford. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin Maesknoll Red Posted February 10, 2019 Admin Report Share Posted February 10, 2019 18 minutes ago, Bristol Rob said: Surprised the league allowed it, given his interest in Salford. He owns a 10% share, I guess there aren’t too many times the league have ever come across an owner/part owner of one club, managing another. There probably isn’t a rule to cover that situation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1960maaan Posted February 10, 2019 Report Share Posted February 10, 2019 32 minutes ago, Ska Junkie said: Isn't he an Oldham supporter? I was going to post the same thing. I'm sure there has been speculation about him getting involved for some time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
East End Old Boy Posted February 10, 2019 Report Share Posted February 10, 2019 36 minutes ago, Bryans Left Peg said: Hope he fails miserably though. Why? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ska Junkie Posted February 10, 2019 Report Share Posted February 10, 2019 7 minutes ago, Maesknoll Red said: He owns a 10% share, I guess there aren’t too many times the league have ever come across an owner/part owner of one club, managing another. There probably isn’t a rule to cover that situation. Interesting. I wonder what happens if and when Salford eventually get into the EFL? Conflict of interest surely, not that I doubt Paul Scholes honesty in any way? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledAjax Posted February 10, 2019 Report Share Posted February 10, 2019 26 minutes ago, Bristol Rob said: Surprised the league allowed it, given his interest in Salford. 7 minutes ago, Maesknoll Red said: He owns a 10% share, I guess there aren’t too many times the league have ever come across an owner/part owner of one club, managing another. There probably isn’t a rule to cover that situation. There is a rule. You are allowed up to 10% so long as your shareholding is for "investment purposes". I assume he has proven to the EFL that although he holds 10% of Salford he has no input into the management, team selection or general running of the club. He will apparently be unable to do transfers between Oldham and Salford. https://www.skysports.com/football/news/11730/11631618/paul-scholes-gets-permission-to-take-oldham-job-after-efl-checks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wendyredredrobin Posted February 10, 2019 Report Share Posted February 10, 2019 Didn't they once have a Manager called Johnson who went on to better things? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhistleHappy Posted February 10, 2019 Report Share Posted February 10, 2019 Hmm, his first major task as manager is going to be convincing his players to wear their new training boots..... ….it won't be easy! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ska Junkie Posted February 10, 2019 Report Share Posted February 10, 2019 33 minutes ago, ExiledAjax said: There is a rule. You are allowed up to 10% so long as your shareholding is for "investment purposes". I assume he has proven to the EFL that although he holds 10% of Salford he has no input into the management, team selection or general running of the club. He will apparently be unable to do transfers between Oldham and Salford. https://www.skysports.com/football/news/11730/11631618/paul-scholes-gets-permission-to-take-oldham-job-after-efl-checks Thanks Exiled, that clears my query up then. I wonder what would happen though, if (hypothetically) Salford need a certain series of results near the end of a season and Oldham are one of those games? Oldham may not need the points themselves etc etc so Salford inevitably win. If, in that scenario, I was something to do with a club affected by this hypothetical scenario, I wouldn't be too happy in all honesty (unless it was the sags, obviously). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexukhc Posted February 10, 2019 Report Share Posted February 10, 2019 Ahh Paul Scholes’ Oldham you say? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
And Its Smith Posted February 10, 2019 Report Share Posted February 10, 2019 1 hour ago, Bryans Left Peg said: Good on him for not expecting a top club and starting at L2. Hope he fails miserably though. Why? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
And Its Smith Posted February 10, 2019 Report Share Posted February 10, 2019 46 minutes ago, 1960maaan said: I was going to post the same thing. I'm sure there has been speculation about him getting involved for some time. Yes he is. Goes to a lot of games. always out in Oldham (well the nearby lovely village of Uppermill). Very quiet but nice guy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledAjax Posted February 10, 2019 Report Share Posted February 10, 2019 9 minutes ago, Ska Junkie said: Thanks Exiled, that clears my query up then. I wonder what would happen though, if (hypothetically) Salford need a certain series of results near the end of a season and Oldham are one of those games? Oldham may not need the points themselves etc etc so Salford inevitably win. If, in that scenario, I was something to do with a club affected by this hypothetical scenario, I wouldn't be too happy in all honesty (unless it was the sags, obviously). True, I have thought about that scenario as well. However I guess the answer is that you have to trust the rules, trust the EFL's decision and trust that Scholes really does hold his 10% for investment purposes only and that he would conduct himself properly. It is a lot to trust but it's all you can really do. Personally I am surprised that the Salford Class of 92 shareholders' agreement allows Scholes to do this - but that's a private matter between him and his mates. Interestingly, as he has had dispensation from the EFL board, Mark Ashton will have been involved in that decision. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bar BS3 Posted February 10, 2019 Report Share Posted February 10, 2019 Did he not get a Premiership/Championship job because he’s Black..? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Brent Posted February 10, 2019 Report Share Posted February 10, 2019 I’m sure he’ll be on the phone to LJ, asking for advice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
downendcity Posted February 10, 2019 Report Share Posted February 10, 2019 4 minutes ago, Bar BS3 said: Did he not get a Premiership/Championship job because he’s Black Ginger..? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ska Junkie Posted February 10, 2019 Report Share Posted February 10, 2019 19 minutes ago, ExiledAjax said: True, I have thought about that scenario as well. However I guess the answer is that you have to trust the rules, trust the EFL's decision and trust that Scholes really does hold his 10% for investment purposes only and that he would conduct himself properly. It is a lot to trust but it's all you can really do. Personally I am surprised that the Salford Class of 92 shareholders' agreement allows Scholes to do this - but that's a private matter between him and his mates. Interestingly, as he has had dispensation from the EFL board, Mark Ashton will have been involved in that decision. Indeed. I guess he (Scholes) must have put something in writing to the EFL, not that I question his values in any way but it's an interesting situation. Maybe Scholes has to do something legally with his 10% holding in Salford to avoid any possible accusations of nepotism? I'm certain Oldham / Salford / the EFL would have covered it in some detail TBH. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledAjax Posted February 10, 2019 Report Share Posted February 10, 2019 9 minutes ago, Ska Junkie said: Indeed. I guess he (Scholes) must have put something in writing to the EFL, not that I question his values in any way but it's an interesting situation. Maybe Scholes has to do something legally with his 10% holding in Salford to avoid any possible accusations of nepotism? I'm certain Oldham / Salford / the EFL would have covered it in some detail TBH. I come across conflicts of interest of directors and shareholders in my job. It's normally dealt with by the conflicted person simply abstaining from decisions on which they are conflicted. Sometimes there's a written agreement but generally it's not legally required. I suspect here Scholes has either given up or promised not to use his voting rights that he has from the shares. Basically he wouldn't be involved in any shareholder decisions that Salford make. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ska Junkie Posted February 10, 2019 Report Share Posted February 10, 2019 1 minute ago, ExiledAjax said: I come across conflicts of interest of directors and shareholders in my job. It's normally dealt with by the conflicted person simply abstaining from decisions on which they are conflicted. Sometimes there's a written agreement but generally it's not legally required. I suspect here Scholes has either given up or promised not to use his voting rights that he has from the shares. Basically he wouldn't be involved in any shareholder decisions that Salford make. Sounds fair Exiled. Scholes comes across as an honorable, thoughtful man in interviews so I'm sure he would do the 'right' thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
downendcity Posted February 10, 2019 Report Share Posted February 10, 2019 9 minutes ago, ExiledAjax said: I come across conflicts of interest of directors and shareholders in my job. It's normally dealt with by the conflicted person simply abstaining from decisions on which they are conflicted. Sometimes there's a written agreement but generally it's not legally required. I suspect here Scholes has either given up or promised not to use his voting rights that he has from the shares. Basically he wouldn't be involved in any shareholder decisions that Salford make. Correct. Becks. The Nevilles and Giggs will vote the way that Scholes tells 'em! Seriously, I've always got the impression that Scholes is a pretty straightforward hap and would be trustworthy in a situation like this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cunnyfunt Posted February 10, 2019 Report Share Posted February 10, 2019 2 hours ago, Bryans Left Peg said: Good on him for not expecting a top club and starting at L2. Hope he fails miserably though. Why? Surely we want more English managers/coaches doing well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BS4 on Tour... Posted February 10, 2019 Report Share Posted February 10, 2019 2 hours ago, Maesknoll Red said: He owns a 10% share, I guess there aren’t too many times the league have ever come across an owner/part owner of one club, managing another. There probably isn’t a rule to cover that situation. Salford isn’t a league club... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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