JBFC II Posted April 3, 2019 Report Share Posted April 3, 2019 1 hour ago, Davefevs said: I disagree. He was not without his faults, most CB’s in the Champ have defects. But lower half? Initially upon promotion - maybe. But he got better and better. Not perfect but a I would say he was up there with a bracket of CBs who would get into mist top half sides. His goals gave him added status here, but let’s not forget a brilliant defensive performance v Brighton away (1-0 Brownhill) late on in 16/17. I’m more aligned to this view. Agree. Its fine to have a bit of a laugh at his / Boro’s expense, but I think the vast majority look back at his time here fondly, especially after his shaky start here. A typical late to the pro game player making the best of his ability and striving to play at the best level. It doesn’t look likely that Boro will get him to the Prem this season like he wanted but I don’t blame him for thinking they were a better bet than us in August, nor maximising his earnings in the process. Got to disagree to be honest. The Brighton away performance and that header v Man City aside, he'll be remembered for his work in the opposition box over what he did in ours. To be a top half championship defender you need more to your game than last ditch blocks and good heading ability, which he had in spades. On the floor he wasn't great and he lacked pace (which we masked well to be fair), look at how Adams destroyed him a couple of seasons back on the last day of the season for Birmingham, a top half championship centre back would have dealt with that. Yes he's a city legend, but he's a legend mainly due to his ridiculous season in league one and the effort he put into his time at the club, not due to his defending capabilities Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazooka Joe Posted April 3, 2019 Report Share Posted April 3, 2019 What greater incentive can we have for getting promoted than this:- Not giving up 6 points to PNE. A guaranteed 6 points from our games against Manure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
downendcity Posted April 3, 2019 Report Share Posted April 3, 2019 9 hours ago, mozo said: Well Derby only have to play 2 top half teams, 6 bottom half. Boro 2 top half, 5 bottom half. City play 5 top half, 3 bottom half. Given our last 2 results, our run in looks the best! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted April 3, 2019 Report Share Posted April 3, 2019 1 hour ago, JBFC II said: Got to disagree to be honest. The Brighton away performance and that header v Man City aside, he'll be remembered for his work in the opposition box over what he did in ours. To be a top half championship defender you need more to your game than last ditch blocks and good heading ability, which he had in spades. On the floor he wasn't great and he lacked pace (which we masked well to be fair), look at how Adams destroyed him a couple of seasons back on the last day of the season for Birmingham, a top half championship centre back would have dealt with that. Yes he's a city legend, but he's a legend mainly due to his ridiculous season in league one and the effort he put into his time at the club, not due to his defending capabilities We’ll probably disagree then, and I’ve never been a Flint fan-boy, per se. Taking the top half teams: Norwich: Zimmerman and Godfrey / Klose Leeds: Jansson and Cooper (as good a partnership as you’ll get at this level) Sheffield Utd (3): Basham, Egan and O’Connell West Brom: Dawson and Hegazi Derby: Tomori and Keogh Villa: Mings and Hause Boro (3): Flint, Ayala and Fry Forest: Wague and Benalouane Preston: Storey / Clarke and Davies Sheffield Wed: Hector and Lees Stoke: Shawcross and Baath Hull: de Wijs and Burke Brentford: Mepham and Jeanvier Apart from Leeds (and us of course!!!!), can you honestly say you don’t think he’d be a play ahead of one if not both of the current CBs in the top 14 sides in this division. To me that qualifies him as a top half Championship CB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chairman Mao Posted April 3, 2019 Report Share Posted April 3, 2019 Wigan - W WBA - L Villa - L Reading - W Wednesday - L Derby - D Millwall - W Hull - D 72 points, 7th place Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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mozo Posted April 3, 2019 Report Share Posted April 3, 2019 1 hour ago, phantom said: Hang on, I've figured out how we can guarantee play-offs... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hollydog Posted April 3, 2019 Report Share Posted April 3, 2019 3 hours ago, phantom said: I love this chart. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesBCFC Posted April 3, 2019 Report Share Posted April 3, 2019 2 hours ago, mozo said: Hang on, I've figured out how we can guarantee play-offs... Win all our games? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major Isewater Posted April 4, 2019 Report Share Posted April 4, 2019 13 hours ago, JBFC II said: Got to disagree to be honest. The Brighton away performance and that header v Man City aside, he'll be remembered for his work in the opposition box over what he did in ours. To be a top half championship defender you need more to your game than last ditch blocks and good heading ability, which he had in spades. On the floor he wasn't great and he lacked pace (which we masked well to be fair), look at how Adams destroyed him a couple of seasons back on the last day of the season for Birmingham, a top half championship centre back would have dealt with that. Yes he's a city legend, but he's a legend mainly due to his ridiculous season in league one and the effort he put into his time at the club, not due to his defending capabilities It’s all about opinions and for me the big man was iconic for us and I just loved having him at the club. He was , actually, one of the fastest players at the club , you may be able to find his beep test results. His passing was overlooked but was also pretty good. He’s stereotyped because of his size but there is much more to his game than a head it and welly it merchant. Would I have him back ? No, both parties have moved on. Do I begrudge him leaving for Boro ? Again , not one bit. He is a pro and needs to get the best deal for his final years who could really blame him ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redsince1994 Posted April 4, 2019 Report Share Posted April 4, 2019 5 hours ago, JamesBCFC said: Win all our games? By god. I think you've cracked it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Eddie Hitler Posted April 4, 2019 Report Share Posted April 4, 2019 I hadn't realised that you were a Sheffield Wednesday fan Unan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Balls Posted April 4, 2019 Report Share Posted April 4, 2019 Us = Sheffield Wednesday Took me a while to work that out! As well as seeing us make it into the playoffs on this prediction, the other team going close again is our favourite bogey team of Preston. Before our last 2 games, this definitely wouldn't have looked so rosy. Plus if we think our away form is good, West Brom's is even better, which makes next Tuesday's game quite the 6-pointer yet again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
And Its Smith Posted April 4, 2019 Report Share Posted April 4, 2019 Such an unpredictable league that there is little point in worrying about run ins and who is playing who. Try to predict the results and you will get nowhere near Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigAl&Toby Posted April 4, 2019 Report Share Posted April 4, 2019 1 hour ago, Major Isewater said: It’s all about opinions and for me the big man was iconic for us and I just loved having him at the club. He was , actually, one of the fastest players at the club , you may be able to find his beep test results. His passing was overlooked but was also pretty good. He’s stereotyped because of his size but there is much more to his game than a head it and welly it merchant. Would I have him back ? No, both parties have moved on. Do I begrudge him leaving for Boro ? Again , not one bit. He is a pro and needs to get the best deal for his final years who could really blame him ? If I was younger and fitter I could do what Flint did/does. Running fast and kicking a ball like he did/does doesn’t make him/me/anyone a good CB in my book. Oh and I’m tattooed too When I was a kid I had Subbuteo. With corner kickers. Remember them? Well I reckon our dear old Aden modelled his footballing prowess on one of them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan Dicks' Barmy Army Posted April 4, 2019 Report Share Posted April 4, 2019 13 hours ago, phantom said: I like these @phantom please keep the top one updated Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin phantom Posted April 4, 2019 Admin Report Share Posted April 4, 2019 GD could yet play a part, we could do with smashing a few in against someone PDQ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reddogkev Posted April 4, 2019 Report Share Posted April 4, 2019 2 hours ago, BigAlToby&Liam said: If I was younger and fitter I could do what Flint did/does. Running fast and kicking a ball like he did/does doesn’t make him/me/anyone a good CB in my book. Oh and I’m tattooed too When I was a kid I had Subbuteo. With corner kickers. Remember them? Well I reckon our dear old Aden modelled his footballing prowess on one of them Are you on a wind-up with this Flint nonsense? It's all utter tripe, I don't believe you for one single minute! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedM Posted April 4, 2019 Report Share Posted April 4, 2019 19 minutes ago, phantom said: GD could yet play a part, we could do with smashing a few in against someone PDQ We usually manage to do that one a season don’t we, is 4-1 vs Blackburn going to be our biggest tally or will someone get battered in the run in. We suddenly found a Hat trick hero but I’m doubtful if he will be ready for Sat and maybe beyond. Looks like Flint saw to it that he won’t be scoring for us to help our goal diff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reddogkev Posted April 4, 2019 Report Share Posted April 4, 2019 I'm convinced now City will finish 5th place. You can't stop City when their tails are up, confidence is soaring, etc. Wigan will be a tough game, but you'd have to fancy us for the narrow win, and then the excitement of playing a resurgent WBA, which I'd bank as a goal-scoring draw. Villa - take a defeat on the chin, Grealish running the show, McGinn fires in from long-range and Tammy scores the winner (bastard!), City then grab a crucial, tricky win over struggling Reading, and one of our now famous 0-1 wins against Wednesday. And then a whopper of a game - LJ v Frank, City v Derby - a 26k sell out and a 3-1 win for City. Weimann returns to score a double against his old club. Draw to Millwall, and beat Hull, as their guys will be in beach mode (hopefully)! COME ON YOU REDSSSSSS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major Isewater Posted April 4, 2019 Report Share Posted April 4, 2019 2 hours ago, BigAlToby&Liam said: If I was younger and fitter I could do what Flint did/does. Running fast and kicking a ball like he did/does doesn’t make him/me/anyone a good CB in my book. Oh and I’m tattooed too When I was a kid I had Subbuteo. With corner kickers. Remember them? Well I reckon our dear old Aden modelled his footballing prowess on one of them In reply to your first sentence, you didn’t, he did . Certain professionals in the game disagree with you , as does Flint’s trophy and medal cabinet. As for your third sentence suffice to say that on my passport application form it asked if I had any ‘ distinguishing ‘ features , I write no tattoos. As a kid I only played Subbuteo once , just enough to break Charlie George and Jon Radford . Sausage Fingers was never invited back for another game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reddogkev Posted April 4, 2019 Report Share Posted April 4, 2019 4 minutes ago, Major Isewater said: In reply to your first sentence, you didn’t, he did . Certain professionals in the game disagree with you , as does Flint’s trophy and medal cabinet. As for your third sentence suffice to say that on my passport application form it asked if I had any ‘ distinguishing ‘ features , I write no tattoos. As a kid I only played Subbuteo once , just enough to break Charlie George and Jon Radford . Sausage Fingers was never invited back for another game. Wise words, Major, and due to the content of the Big Al paragraph you've responded to, I can't believe he's being serious. The Flint comments are too ludicrous to be taken seriously. He's also delivered a few whoppers over the years about our exceptional owner, Stephen Lansdown. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reading Red UTC Posted April 4, 2019 Report Share Posted April 4, 2019 Obvious statement but Saturday is massive! Villa, Derby and Boro all have tricky away matches and we have Wigan at home. This would be traditionally the type of game where we would struggle. They will make life very difficult for us. At this point, I don't care how we win as long as we do. Going in to the WBA/Villa matches with a game in hand and a gap between us and 7th would take the pressure off even if only a small amount. Exciting times!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red-Robbo Posted April 4, 2019 Report Share Posted April 4, 2019 While Reading should be 3 points for us, they are on improving form, as are Wednesday. At the same time Derby look like they are choking big time, notwithstanding their demolition of Rotherham. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
And Its Smith Posted April 4, 2019 Report Share Posted April 4, 2019 74 points needed by my calculations. 13 points from 8 games 4 wins, 1 draw, 3 defeats Very achievable Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigAl&Toby Posted April 5, 2019 Report Share Posted April 5, 2019 On 04/04/2019 at 10:28, Major Isewater said: In reply to your first sentence, you didn’t, he did . Certain professionals in the game disagree with you , as does Flint’s trophy and medal cabinet. As for your third sentence suffice to say that on my passport application form it asked if I had any ‘ distinguishing ‘ features , I write no tattoos. As a kid I only played Subbuteo once , just enough to break Charlie George and Jon Radford . Sausage Fingers was never invited back for another game. @Major Isewater Oh Christ I hear you say, I thought he’d gone away..... This trumps anything Aden has in his glazed G Plan cabinet. Surely Major you’d agree? Wanna see the rest of my memorabilia? And what’s wrong with tats? Had my first for my 70th and now I’m covered..... Sausage Fingers? Did you find that the pitch always started out nice and smooth but ended up like the Netham on a frozen Saturday afternoon? And as for those bastard goal posts.... we were always leaning on them and breaking them. Anyway 3 points tomorrow. And the unbeaten run continues..... Top two here we come Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesBCFC Posted April 5, 2019 Report Share Posted April 5, 2019 On 04/04/2019 at 09:48, phantom said: GD could yet play a part, we could do with smashing a few in against someone PDQ A 2 or 3 goal win vs WBA, while very unlikely would make it interesting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major Isewater Posted April 5, 2019 Report Share Posted April 5, 2019 2 hours ago, BigAlToby&Liam said: @Major Isewater Oh Christ I hear you say, I thought he’d gone away..... Not at all old fruit I enjoy a good exchange. This trumps anything Aden has in his glazed G Plan cabinet. Surely Major you’d agree? Wanna see the rest of my memorabilia? I bet that’s your stock in trade chat up line . And what’s wrong with tats? Had my first for my 70th and now I’m covered..... I like Tats but not the clowns who follow fashion and have the same one as every bugger else without any thought to meaning or sense that should come with such a life choice. Sausage Fingers? Did you find that the pitch always started out nice and smooth but ended up like the Netham on a frozen Saturday afternoon? And as for those bastard goal posts.... we were always leaning on them and breaking them. Exactly this. I actually had a football game on a pitch of tin with the players kicking by means of a lever and cable under the pitch .Robust . Anyway 3 points tomorrow. And the unbeaten run continues..... Top two here we come With you on this one brother ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grey Fox Posted April 5, 2019 Report Share Posted April 5, 2019 To make the P/Offs we need 75 points, in my oplnion, and yes, I believe we will do it. As to the P/Offs, after many years of bitter experience, thats the bit that normally goes wrong. We do though seem to be following Brighton's model, develop the infastructure, new Manager comes in and saves us from going down, steady improvement, then P/offs (goes wrong), then automatic promotion the next season. So maybe next year is when we lick the cream, but it would be nice if it was this year, right now. COYRs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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