And Its Smith Posted June 22, 2019 Report Share Posted June 22, 2019 32 minutes ago, sticks 1969 said: With out getting into a argument and I think you are a very good poster , who’s to say he would have scored that many goals again ? The following season Because he’s a quality forward player. Why do you doubt he would do it again? Have you seen how good he is? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Brent Posted June 22, 2019 Report Share Posted June 22, 2019 On 19/06/2019 at 15:21, Monkeh said: Weinman Twice the player Reid is, I think we’ve found the joker of the pack Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
And Its Smith Posted June 22, 2019 Report Share Posted June 22, 2019 1 minute ago, David Brent said: I think we’ve found the joker of the pack Can only assume he doesn’t go to games. I think it’s impossible to see Weimann last season and think he is twice what Reid is. Even thinking they are as good as each other is incredible to me. Reid is far ahead. Weird how a Premier League team wanted Reid and we were the best option for Weimann when he left Derby. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 22, 2019 Report Share Posted June 22, 2019 1 hour ago, RedSkin said: Can't believe this is a debate. Reid is a much better player than Weimann. Much better technically, better vision, more accurate shot, quicker, and pips him in work rate too. The biggest tell is how much better Diedhou was with Reid playing alongside him. I know Weimann hasn't really been played alongside him but he just isn't good enough to play that goalscoring No 10 role. Weimann's movement is superb, but too often we don't have players that play him in. Would love to see Reid and Weimann as a front two. Agree 100%. I actually thought Reid looked pretty good in the prem, but wasn't helped with wrong type of manager and lack of quality around him and service. Cardiff fans love him and most seemed to want Reid to be starting every game. For me Weimann lacks any real skill, his touch can be very dodgy, and he doesn't really have a trick on him. He works his socks off but his decision making and execution of final ball and shot is erratic. And he is very inconsistent. I'm not sure how many bad games Bobby had for us in that season. Did he even play badly once? The fact that people are using how good Reid was when at Plymouth as an argument for how good they are now kind of shows they're struggling to explain their opinions! So when players suddenly become brilliant like Vardy, Kane, Murray, Wilson, having previously not maybe looked that good and been loaned to lower leagues or working their way up lower leagues, do we say 'yeah but they weren't that good a year or 2 back so Weimann is better as he played in prem for Villa at that age!' What nonsense. As players now I would like to know what Weimann is better at. Heading, anything else? Like you say even the things he is very good at is still not quite on Bobby's level. Are people being bias to our own player and upset with Bobby leaving to a rival? Probably Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
And Its Smith Posted June 22, 2019 Report Share Posted June 22, 2019 On 21/06/2019 at 08:09, Monkeh said: There is a whole history of strikers only having 1 good season, no one has said Reid isn’t quality, they have said he isn’t proven or even guaranteed to be a 20 goal a season striker because he hasn’t done it multiple times tammy is a 20 goal a season striker as is kodja as they have proven it over multiple seasons in the championship (when stayed fit) reid hasn’t and won’t be until he does it multiple seasons Still waiting for that ‘whole history’ list Monkeh. I’ve reduced it to five to give you a chance. Five strikers that have scored 20 goals and then not got near it again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old_eastender Posted June 22, 2019 Report Share Posted June 22, 2019 2 hours ago, RedSkin said: Can't believe this is a debate. Reid is a much better player than Weimann. Much better technically, better vision, more accurate shot, quicker, and pips him in work rate too. The biggest tell is how much better Diedhou was with Reid playing alongside him. I know Weimann hasn't really been played alongside him but he just isn't good enough to play that goalscoring No 10 role. Weimann's movement is superb, but too often we don't have players that play him in. Would love to see Reid and Weimann as a front two. Spot on. No doubt Weimann gives 100% effort every time, and his movement is great, but he is a forward and it's all about end product. Even when found in the space he has made for himself, Weimann's final ball on the end of a run is often poor. Also his shooting is woeful from anything more than 12 yards out, he misses the target completely most of the time. Like someone else said given the choice, surely every manager in the championship would take Reid over Weimann, even LJ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Skin Posted June 22, 2019 Report Share Posted June 22, 2019 1 hour ago, JonDolman said: Agree 100%. I actually thought Reid looked pretty good in the prem, but wasn't helped with wrong type of manager and lack of quality around him and service. Cardiff fans love him and most seemed to want Reid to be starting every game. Could never fathom Warnock buying him. Sol Bamba named Reid on Sky as his Cardiff player to watch next season so he's rated by their players too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted June 22, 2019 Report Share Posted June 22, 2019 I think it just goes to show it can’t be a clear cut answer as it seems posters have different opinions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Skin Posted June 22, 2019 Report Share Posted June 22, 2019 2 hours ago, Davefevs said: I think it just goes to show it can’t be a clear cut answer as it seems posters have different opinions. I guess the market would say Bobby is the better player given his fee compared to Weimann's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted June 22, 2019 Report Share Posted June 22, 2019 3 minutes ago, RedSkin said: I guess the market would say Bobby is the better player given his fee compared to Weimann's. You could indeed, but Kalas at £5m or Kelly at £13m. The market is perverse and not a true indication of how good a player is....but of course has relevance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Brent Posted June 22, 2019 Report Share Posted June 22, 2019 7 hours ago, RedDave said: Can only assume he doesn’t go to games. I think it’s impossible to see Weimann last season and think he is twice what Reid is. Even thinking they are as good as each other is incredible to me. Reid is far ahead. Weird how a Premier League team wanted Reid and we were the best option for Weimann when he left Derby. Weimann has the potential to be a great signing though. There’s been many times where his thinking has been ahead of his team mates and a run has been wasted. He’s definitely got talent but Reid is just something else Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
And Its Smith Posted June 22, 2019 Report Share Posted June 22, 2019 2 hours ago, Davefevs said: You could indeed, but Kalas at £5m or Kelly at £13m. The market is perverse and not a true indication of how good a player is....but of course has relevance. Kelly could quite easily go on to be good enough to play for England. Kalas will never get to a level where he would be picked for England if he was English Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted June 22, 2019 Report Share Posted June 22, 2019 6 minutes ago, RedDave said: Kelly could quite easily go on to be good enough to play for England. Kalas will never get to a level where he would be picked for England if he was English Yeah, maybe....but by the same token, at the point of their transfers, Reid on a high, Weimann not. Reid is no longer worth £9m either. I just think they are two different players, who we’ve seen in quite different systems. Not saying one is better than the other. Wouldn’t mind seeing both together...CBs wouldn’t get an easy time. Much as I think Fam plays an important, unselfish role, my philosophy likes the idea of two quick’uns up top. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesBCFC Posted June 22, 2019 Report Share Posted June 22, 2019 51 minutes ago, David Brent said: Weimann has the potential to be a great signing though. There’s been many times where his thinking has been ahead of his team mates and a run has been wasted. He’s definitely got talent but Reid is just something else The Plymouth game a prime example. Only on as a sub but looked a division better than anyone else on the pitch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kiwicolin Posted June 22, 2019 Report Share Posted June 22, 2019 11 hours ago, swanker said: But he’s not worth more! That's not what was asked. Weimann is the more experienced and therefore a better player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 22, 2019 Report Share Posted June 22, 2019 29 minutes ago, kiwicolin said: That's not what was asked. Weimann is the more experienced and therefore a better player. Are you saying anyone who is more experienced a player is better than a lesser experienced player? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MelksRed Posted June 22, 2019 Report Share Posted June 22, 2019 Weimann....hands down. Sees a pass/ball faster than Reid......faster footballing brain.....scores technically wonderful goals.... Don't get me wrong......Reid was good but not quite as there as Weimann! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon79 Posted June 23, 2019 Report Share Posted June 23, 2019 Reid all day long for me. Better vision, better touch, as good work rate, more flexible. That's started the day on a downer! COYR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon79 Posted June 23, 2019 Report Share Posted June 23, 2019 On 21/06/2019 at 09:25, Leveller said: Maybe it’s just me, but when I’ve seen the correct spelling a few times, anything else just looks wrong. That's cause it is! COYR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kiwicolin Posted June 23, 2019 Report Share Posted June 23, 2019 14 hours ago, JonDolman said: Are you saying anyone who is more experienced a player is better than a lesser experienced player? Yes because they read the game better. You only become a better player with experience , and the amount of games played. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 23, 2019 Report Share Posted June 23, 2019 8 minutes ago, kiwicolin said: Yes because they read the game better. You only become a better player with experience , and the amount of games played. Hmm ok. So Gary O'Neil must be better than Brownhill then! Wilbraham better than Tammy. I could go on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ralphindevon Posted June 23, 2019 Report Share Posted June 23, 2019 I watched Cardiff's game at Man Utd at the end of the season, Bobby was absolute class, some of his passing was as good as you would see in any game in the top flight. I don't think playing for Warnock suited him but I do remember LJ saying how much we were missing him early last season, far more than any other player Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kiwicolin Posted June 23, 2019 Report Share Posted June 23, 2019 20 minutes ago, JonDolman said: Hmm ok. So Gary O'Neil must be better than Brownhill then! Wilbraham better than Tammy. I could go on. Yes . Brownhill is a brilliant player but O'Neil is a better player because of his experience. Tammy is a brilliant player but Wilbraham is the better player because of his experience. Brownhill and Tammy will be the better players, once they have more games under there belts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 23, 2019 Report Share Posted June 23, 2019 8 minutes ago, kiwicolin said: Yes . Brownhill is a brilliant player but O'Neil is a better player because of his experience. Tammy is a brilliant player but Wilbraham is the better player because of his experience. Brownhill and Tammy will be the better players, once they have more games under there belts. Brilliant Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 23, 2019 Report Share Posted June 23, 2019 23 minutes ago, ralphindevon said: I watched Cardiff's game at Man Utd at the end of the season, Bobby was absolute class, some of his passing was as good as you would see in any game in the top flight. I don't think playing for Warnock suited him but I do remember LJ saying how much we were missing him early last season, far more than any other player Yep, absolute quality. There were rumours Bournemouth were interested last summer. I think Bobby would suit their formation and style of play. I believe Bobby can be a prem player at the right club. Could well get a good profit of sell on in the future I reckon as I expect prem clubs to be chasing Bobby by the end of the season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted June 23, 2019 Report Share Posted June 23, 2019 1 hour ago, JonDolman said: Yep, absolute quality. There were rumours Bournemouth were interested last summer. I think Bobby would suit their formation and style of play. I believe Bobby can be a prem player at the right club. Could well get a good profit of sell on in the future I reckon as I expect prem clubs to be chasing Bobby by the end of the season. Unless Bobby has a stellar season or two I can’t see many clubs paying a fee that would generate much percentage sell-on profit for us. Everything is welcome of course. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leveller Posted June 23, 2019 Report Share Posted June 23, 2019 14 hours ago, Simon79 said: That's cause it is! COYR Indeed it is. But some posters - by contrast - seem unable to spell our players’ names even when they have been here a year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swanker Posted June 24, 2019 Report Share Posted June 24, 2019 21 hours ago, kiwicolin said: Yes . Brownhill is a brilliant player but O'Neil is a better player because of his experience. Tammy is a brilliant player but Wilbraham is the better player because of his experience. Brownhill and Tammy will be the better players, once they have more games under there belts. I’ve heard it all now. Andy Cole was most probably the best striker I’ve seen at Ashton Gate and he’d only played a handful of games. He made his more experienced strike partner, Wayne Allison look a mug. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kiwicolin Posted June 24, 2019 Report Share Posted June 24, 2019 21 minutes ago, swanker said: I’ve heard it all now. Andy Cole was most probably the best striker I’ve seen at Ashton Gate and he’d only played a handful of games. He made his more experienced strike partner, Wayne Allison look a mug. Ok. Lets put it this way . If a person came to do your job , and only had a years experience but you have been doing your job for 7 years. Does that make them better at your job ? No , because you are the more experienced person to do that job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
And Its Smith Posted June 24, 2019 Report Share Posted June 24, 2019 22 hours ago, kiwicolin said: Yes . Brownhill is a brilliant player but O'Neil is a better player because of his experience. Tammy is a brilliant player but Wilbraham is the better player because of his experience. Brownhill and Tammy will be the better players, once they have more games under there belts. I’ve seen some ridiculous comments on here but that is right up there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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