Section 82

[Spoons]

9 minutes ago, Mr Popodopolous said:

All after their slice of the (overtime) pie...?

Mind you in the game in October, there was some chanting at Luton- perhaps it was off the back of that. Stlll seemed unnecessarily high though.

Overtime pie? You're having a laugh. Avon and Somerset police force can't afford to pay overtime. I know your comments made in jest but it couldn't be further from the truth. 

You actually thing any policeman ( except Julie) would choose to be working at a football match? The answers no! 

[Robbored]

12 minutes ago, Up The City! said:

Mounted police aswell mind!

Oh? I missed them.

Maybe they just fancied a day out to exercise the horses................

[Mr Popodopolous]

13 minutes ago, Spoons said:

Overtime pie? You're having a laugh. Avon and Somerset police force can't afford to pay overtime. I know your comments made in jest but it couldn't be further from the truth. 

You actually thing any policeman ( except Julie) would choose to be working at a football match? The answers no! 

Overtime quip aside, is policing the football so bad?

I'm not talking monetarily here, but not a bad gig? Usually isn't much trouble these days. Plus a police officer might like football!

I don't really go in for the overtime theory but I do recall 3 years ago or 3 seasons ago, vs Reading at the start of 2017, quite a strikingly high police presence. During LJ's record losing run!

[Spoons]

3 minutes ago, Mr Popodopolous said:

Overtime quip aside, is policing the football so bad?

I'm not talking monetarily here, but not a bad gig? Usually isn't much trouble these days. Plus a police officer might like football!

I don't really go in for the overtime theory but I do recall 3 years ago or 3 seasons ago, vs Reading at the start of 2017, quite a strikingly high police presence. During LJ's record losing run!

Policing the football is so bad because that's not exactly why people choose to become policeman !! Also there is nothing worse policing a football match if it's the team you support....stuck outside in Ashton park for example!!

Believe me there are thousands of hours of unpaid overtime in a+s , if every hour worked over contracted hours was paid it would fold. 

 

[Mr Popodopolous]

18 minutes ago, Spoons said:

Policing the football is so bad because that's not exactly why people choose to become policeman !! Also there is nothing worse policing a football match if it's the team you support....stuck outside in Ashton park for example!!

Believe me there are thousands of hours of unpaid overtime in a+s , if every hour worked over contracted hours was paid it would fold. 

 

Can be luck of the draw...at a bit of a risk game, being in that corner between the Dolman and Atyeo isn't the worst spot!

Like I say, I'm not really suggesting it for the money- but the big presence did puzzle me vs Reading at the start of 2017. Perhaps less so yesterday!

[redsapper]

18 hours ago, Shtanley said:

Expand it. I feel awkward making noise in the south stand. Would happily move across and get involved. 

I’m all for an enlarged area, but it’s the club that’s put into the corner. 

I know that we have not got Safe-standing but this could help in the long run. 

In the old days it was easy to keep it in the middle of the stand as size of the person dictated your place on the Terrance. 
 

People have chosen to sit in the middle for a view but don’t want it to be like the old days. Also when this area of the old East end was in full flow other parts of the ground would join in. The crowds were much smaller then but the atmosphere was better. 

[BS13 Robin]

8 hours ago, Up The City! said:

I sit in s18. I can hardly make out what s82 are singing half the time, all I hear is a drum banging and some repetitive Forza song that fails to catch on in the other stands, in fact I think it fails to catch on in other stands also. Every game there seems to be a 'new' Forza song that no one knows and those singing in and banging the drum along to it are persistent in trying to get it to catch on.

People might not like to hear this but its these songs that are killing the atmosphere, they ain't going to spread around the ground like traditional songs do. The South Stand were giving it ago yesterday but everytime they tried they got drowned out by the mundane Forza crap and the drum banging. It's been a while since I've heard songs such as "we're by far the greatest team" you know, songs that the whole ground can sing to? 

When we get a corner, its traditional for a shout of come on you redsss, not these days tho, it's just some high tempo drum bashing along to a Forza song and it kills the atmosphere. 

Can I take it from this that you are not a fan of the Forza songs or the drums then?

[Mr Popodopolous]

Expansion will of course partly and maybe more than this depend on the SAG. 

The other issue though of course is now that the South Stand has a high % of ST Holders, you can't expand without displacement. That said, I dare say a % of ST Holders in the South Stand would like an expansion of Singing Section. Fans survey? 

The third aspect is of course elsewhere. E28 aka Dolman G and N in the past any ideas of ratio of St to non ST holders? Or E34- in other words A and H. Scope for expansion into these?

[BigTone]

22 hours ago, Red94 said:

These songs get sung as well but the rest of the ground definitely don’t join in.

The clue might be in the point Up The City was making

[BigTone]

20 hours ago, redsapper said:

I’m all for an enlarged area, but it’s the club that’s put into the corner. 

I know that we have not got Safe-standing but this could help in the long run. 

In the old days it was easy to keep it in the middle of the stand as size of the person dictated your place on the Terrance. 
 

People have chosen to sit in the middle for a view but don’t want it to be like the old days. Also when this area of the old East end was in full flow other parts of the ground would join in. The crowds were much smaller then but the atmosphere was better. 

The problem these days is that when the ground was built you have some Acoustics expert whose job it is to prevent excessive sound travel etc. In the old days the echo around the stadium when everyone started cheering or singing gave it an atmosphere sadly lacking today. Sign of the times regrettably.

[Highguy]

20 hours ago, Spoons said:

Policing the football is so bad because that's not exactly why people choose to become policeman !! Also there is nothing worse policing a football match if it's the team you support....stuck outside in Ashton park for example!!

Believe me there are thousands of hours of unpaid overtime in a+s , if every hour worked over contracted hours was paid it would fold. 

 

Well i bet the coppers hate standing around fist clenched waiting to start hitting football fans or getting in to stadium and watching match for free whilst getting time and half the football clubs pay for the police not the police budgets 

Shouldnt be at football matches anyway should be catching sex offenders and rapists instead

[Mr Popodopolous]

3 minutes ago, BigTone said:

The problem these days is that when the ground was built you have some Acoustics expert whose job it is to prevent excessive sound travel etc. In the old days the echo around the stadium when everyone started cheering or singing gave it an atmosphere sadly lacking today. Sign of the times regrettably.

Really? 

Can you expand...I knew the acoustics were flawed but prevention of excessive noise travel, really?

[Mr Popodopolous]

16 minutes ago, Highguy said:

Shouldnt be at football matches anyway should be catching sex offenders and rapists instead

Don't fully agree that football should be 100% police free always, there is a need as there is for stewards and SIA but cost to benefit ratio, the police presence at times can seem arbitrary and random.

A good example was Reading at home, was it New Years Day 2017? Certainly early in the year! Large police presence...vs Reading!! Not Cardiff, Leeds, Millwall etc but Reading!

[BigTone]

2 minutes ago, Mr Popodopolous said:

Really? 

Can you expand...I knew the acoustics were flawed but prevention of excessive noise travel, really?

Of course, so the noise from other parts of the ground is not intrusive elsewhere inside the stadium therefore hindering the viewing experience. Bollycocks I know but its the way things are these days. You want to see the carp we have to go through when trying to obtain planning on new builds apartments in London.

[Mr Popodopolous]

2 minutes ago, BigTone said:

Of course, so the noise from other parts of the ground is not intrusive elsewhere inside the stadium therefore hindering the viewing experience. Bollycocks I know but its the way things are these days. You want to see the carp we have to go through when trying to obtain planning on new builds apartments in London.

Thanks. 

That helps to explain why sound doesn't travel so well then I guess!

People who say the away end are silent or the Singing Section basically don't, may have a different reflection to the reality based on where they are in the ground.

I've always thought it hasn't travelled well at AG, with the obvious exception of the East End with its design, low roof etc. 

Not saying we have a great atmosphere incidentally but there are mitigating factors caused by design?

[Spoons]

53 minutes ago, Highguy said:

Well i bet the coppers hate standing around fist clenched waiting to start hitting football fans or getting in to stadium and watching match for free whilst getting time and half the football clubs pay for the police not the police budgets 

Shouldnt be at football matches anyway should be catching sex offenders and rapists instead

I'm sure every policeman agrees with you and would much rather be catching sex offenders and rapist's rather than old men with no teeth wearing stone Island gear.

[Highguy]

16 minutes ago, Spoons said:

I'm sure every policeman agrees with you and would much rather be catching sex offenders and rapist's rather than old men with no teeth wearing stone Island gear.

Stricter punishment if your arrested at football tho

[Spoons]

1 minute ago, Highguy said:

Stricter punishment if your arrested at football tho

Can't argue with that but that's not the police's fault that the criminal justice system in this country.....a joke. 

[Highguy]

1 minute ago, Spoons said:

Can't argue with that but that's not the police's fault that the criminal justice system in this country.....a joke. 

Yeah i will agree on that one cps are bigger joke then a&s but they give them a close run

[Galley is our king]

On 30/12/2019 at 14:23, Robbored said:

The signing section is poorly situated within AG - it should have been located directly behind the SS goal before the season cards were sold.

Now those who have seats in that area aren’t likely to agree to relocating. 

Could have been a deliberate plan by the club not to put them there................

Won't work in the centre unless they either all stay sat down or the whole stand, stand up. 

In the corner is the only place where they can stand without getting in the way of other supporters sight lines.

So yes, a deliberate and sensible plan not to put them there!

[BigTone]

2 hours ago, Spoons said:

I'm sure every policeman agrees with you and would much rather be catching sex offenders and rapist's rather than old men with no teeth wearing stone Island gear.

What's wrong with Stone Island Gear ? You taking the Mick buddy ? You want some? Some of what what I'm not sure but gives me some street cred to use on here. Is Stone Island like Barry Island ?

[Guest]

On 29/12/2019 at 21:38, kevinmabbuttshair said:

Far too many who want to in amongst it but do not want to create it. 

 

Kudos to cider head, north Street etc who were vital in getting the east end reopened, I was in the second wave thanks to them. Loud hailers, drums beaten with trainers, threshing machines. It was good while it lasted. It is now back to how it was before

 

Heads getting scrambled now but, I think/remember when less than 100 went back in there of which I was one v Notts County? was it 5-0? prob wrong but no doubt someone will know; anyway certainly some atmosphere later on when more came back in;

Also remember The Subbers, "Santas gonna get you" in The Williams and yellow marigolds etc; now didnt they move/go off into the Williams near EE, cant remember if it was before/after or while City fans were back in the EE;

Anyway all gone now never be 1967/8 again..........now what day is it

[Mr Popodopolous]

Hi @JulieH

Am wondering on this point.

As me and @Phileas Fogghave discussed periodically, other clubs seem to be able to have home and away fans in the same stand, with only a line to a few lines of stewards and where necessary bolstered by police and SIA- perhaps I'm even overstating the lines of segregation in terms of few lines but anyway it's something in that range!

Do you have a view on why this seems not to be possible at City- purely club led or?

[Bristol Rob]

Whilst on the subject, has anyone else noticed that none of the stewrds display SIA badges?

'Open you coat' on the way in the frequently bellowed by someone - which could be anyone - who just happens to have a day glow jacket.

I thought there was a requirement for badges to be on display.

[Mr Popodopolous]

@Bristol Rob

Stewards aren't necessarily required to be trained to SIA Standards. They are trained however.

Sure it's been covered on here before though- FSA Faircop could fill in the gaps though I'm sure a few on here could too!

[JulieH]

4 hours ago, Mr Popodopolous said:

Hi @JulieH

Am wondering on this point.

As me and @Phileas Fogghave discussed periodically, other clubs seem to be able to have home and away fans in the same stand, with only a line to a few lines of stewards and where necessary bolstered by police and SIA- perhaps I'm even overstating the lines of segregation in terms of few lines but anyway it's something in that range!

Do you have a view on why this seems not to be possible at City- purely club led or?

Not a policing decision, ultimately it is for the club to decide and we provide observations either way .

[CotswoldRed]

On 29/12/2019 at 21:13, RedDave said:

Can anyone who sits there help me? Why do fans choose to be in that area and then not sing? 

Seems a weird thing to do to me. Would have thought if one wanted to sing they would do for majority of game. Very quiet today 

Probably a decent view for selfies and filming with a smartphone. 

[lenred]

14 minutes ago, JulieH said:

Not a policing decision, ultimately it is for the club to decide and we provide observations either way .

And what have those observations been please? Also is atmosphere (or the lack of it) ever discussed at SAG meetings or is just not of any concern?  Thanks. 

[Shtanley]

Expand section 82. Get the singers in a larger group covering a bigger amount of the south stand than currently. The atmosphere will come just gotta get the singers and loud ‘uns together. 

[Mr Popodopolous]

I'm not convinced it's so feasible but if expansion is, then it definitely is worth it!

[City fan 1982]

Sadly the club don’t want any kind of atmosphere, then if you do try and move it will piss off the people currently there . 
section82 is no longer I’m afraid. , next season I will look to move seats. I sing every game if if people around me aren’t.  
 

[Agard Days Night]

3 hours ago, Shtanley said:

just gotta get the singers and loud ‘uns together. 

There aren’t any though.

[Bristol Oil Services]

Some angry blokes - well, kiddie blokes - in there yesterday, mind. Bitter, angry, twisted; dead, soulless eyes. Foaming mouths. Attacking and berating their own players/team. 

What joy and happiness abounds, what lightness of being, what perspective and ability to put things into context, when things go pear-shaped at AG.

Happy New Year. 

[BigTone]

2 hours ago, kivsy said:

Sadly the club don’t want any kind of atmosphere, then if you do try and move it will piss off the people currently there . 
section82 is no longer I’m afraid. , next season I will look to move seats. I sing every game if if people around me aren’t.  
 

I went to see City vs QPR at Loftus Rd a couple of seasons back. There was a lad in front of me trying to get some singing going. Regrettably he sounded like a Hippo being castrated without anaesthetic.

[054123]

I thought the atmosphere was quite good in there yesterday, considering the disaster unfolding in front of us.

I was thinking of why I like going in section 24 of the ground and it’s not just about singing.

I like shouting, I occasionally swear, I certainly love standing and can’t imagine having to sit for an hour and half.

I think people who don’t stand in there, think it’s something it isn’t. 

Its an area where I can be relaxed with like minded others without offending other people.

[Agard Days Night]

6 minutes ago, 054123 said:

I thought the atmosphere was quite good in there yesterday, considering the disaster unfolding in front of us.

I was thinking of why I like going in section 24 of the ground and it’s not just about singing.

I like shouting, I occasionally swear, I certainly love standing and can’t imagine having to sit for an hour and half.

I think people who don’t stand in there, think it’s something it isn’t. 

Its an area where I can be relaxed with like minded others without offending other people.

Do you genuinely feel the atmosphere in there was good yesterday? As in, objectively, seriously and honestly? A good atmosphere?

[054123]

6 minutes ago, Agard Days Night said:

Do you genuinely feel the atmosphere in there was good yesterday? As in, objectively, seriously and honestly? A good atmosphere?

Objectively yes, I do.

Was it Forest at home in 89 or Rovers at home in 96, or a host of others, no.

Is football ever going to be that again? No.

It can’t be. In order to curb hooliganism you had to neuter the tribalism and partisan atmosphere, the two were always linked.

Considering we were watching a house fire yesterday, I thought it was on the whole supportive and people tried to keep spirits up. I can only comment on the area where I stand so in other parts of the ground it may have been worse. 

[City Cat]

38 minutes ago, BigTone said:

I went to see City vs QPR at Loftus Rd a couple of seasons back. There was a lad in front of me trying to get some singing going. Regrettably he sounded like a Hippo being castrated without anaesthetic.

 

[Agard Days Night]

20 minutes ago, 054123 said:

Objectively yes, I do.

Was it Forest at home in 89 or Rovers at home in 96, or a host of others, no.

Is football ever going to be that again? No.

It can’t be. In order to curb hooliganism you had to neuter the tribalism and partisan atmosphere, the two were always linked.

Considering we were watching a house fire yesterday, I thought it was on the whole supportive and people tried to keep spirits up. I can only comment on the area where I stand so in other parts of the ground it may have been worse. 

It was quite possibly the worst atmosphere since the stadium rebuild. At times worse than a pre season friendly.

[054123]

5 minutes ago, Agard Days Night said:

It was quite possibly the worst atmosphere since the stadium rebuild. At times worse than a pre season friendly.

I understand your frustrations with it all, I genuinely share the same feelings.

it wasn’t the worst atmosphere since the rebuild and, as you probably know, not the worst atmosphere down the gate.

it wasn’t in the ‘top 10’ either.

Things’ll get better

[Agard Days Night]

8 minutes ago, 054123 said:

I understand your frustrations with it all, I genuinely share the same feelings.

it wasn’t the worst atmosphere since the rebuild and, as you probably know, not the worst atmosphere down the gate.

it wasn’t in the ‘top 10’ either.

Things’ll get better

It was shocking. Absolutely terrible. Your defence of it is Johnsonesque.

[054123]

8 minutes ago, Agard Days Night said:

It was shocking. Absolutely terrible. Your defence of it is Johnsonesque.

You won’t always feel like this.

[T R]

The pre match music before the game starts is doing my head in. Me and my mates have given up trying to start anything up before the match starts. Both the chemical brothers galvinize song. and the cringey seven nation army song are sucking the life out of the atmosphere. Seven nation army got old 10 games ago.

[Agard Days Night]

6 minutes ago, 054123 said:

You won’t always feel like this.

I will as long as the atmosphere is so shit and people are defending it as good.

Embarrassing. 

[054123]

50 minutes ago, Agard Days Night said:

I will as long as the atmosphere is so shit and people are defending it as good.

Embarrassing. 

That’s fair enough.

I suppose my point isn’t that the atmosphere was good compared to a myriad of other games, but that given the the state of the game and the constant feeling that a large proportion of our fans are ready to march Lee Johnson our, what did you want or expect?

When the boos started after the Eliasson sub I thought the whole thing in the stands might have gone to rat shit.

[Galway Red]

56 minutes ago, Agard Days Night said:

It was shocking. Absolutely terrible. Your defence of it is Johnsonesque.

Xmas games are always rubbish for atmisphere apart from the 2-2 with Plymouth when Collier & Merrick replied to Mariner & Rafferty

[Mr Popodopolous]

2-1 to Wolves in 2017...granted it was a gut wrenching result but top of the table clash, thought the atmosphere was rather good...if only Frankie hadn't made that challenge eh, if only we hadn't left Flint up top at 1-0 vs 10 etc!

Atmosphere was of course good though, under the lights, top v 2nd, us very much on the rise, on Sky...yeah that was good! Nothing wrong with the atmosphere that evening...last Saturday of 2017!

If only, if only...

Was an impressive atmosphere though- very much in and around the Christmas period.

[redapple]

Section 82 should be seated in Block 11 and 12 of the Lansdown Stand closer to the away supporters . Another singing section in the Dolman (Old A & B blocks) and behind the goal in the South Stand .  

[Mr Popodopolous]

1 minute ago, redapple said:

Section 82 should be seated in Block 11 and 12 of the Lansdown Stand closer to the away supporters . Another singing section in the Dolman (Old A & B blocks) and behind the goal in the South Stand .  

Problem is that it can displace long standing ST holders in Upper E34 and Upper E33- assuming you mean them as A and B, traditionally quite vocal areas of the ground? Lower was H and I IIRC.

Lansdown...that one is more interesting but doesn't necessarily seem to fit the demographic of that stand- higher ticket prices, plus in the upper Corporate type areas and of course the family- don't see the clib doing for that.

A further one in the South Stand...can't see the SAG or the police going for that- though it sounds like it might be a club led decision, but I dare say the All Seeing but Never Seen SAG have a bigger say?

How many of these would be standing...how does that fly?

Reserved or unreserved seating...one of standing or unreserved has a 10% reduction in capacity I believe.

Don't get me wrong, I like the ideas...but a lot, no a hell of a lot, of obstacles to overcome!

[redapple]

3 minutes ago, Mr Popodopolous said:

Problem is that it can displace long standing ST holders in Upper E34 and Upper E33- assuming you mean them as A and B, traditionally quite vocal areas of the ground? Lower was H and I IIRC.

Lansdown...that one is more interesting but doesn't necessarily seem to fit the demographic of that stand- higher ticket prices, plus in the upper Corporate type areas and of course the family- don't see the clib doing for that.

A further one in the South Stand...can't see the SAG or the police going for that- though it sounds like it might be a club led decision, but I dare say the All Seeing but Never Seen SAG have a bigger say?

How many of these would be standing...how does that fly?

Reserved or unreserved seating...one of standing or unreserved has a 10% reduction in capacity I believe.

Don't get me wrong, I like the ideas...but a lot, no a hell of a lot, of obstacles to overcome!

I agree that lots of obstacles are in the way ( not as many as the old Williams Stand) but to improve the atmosphere it’s a must. And I’m sure it’s the lack of atmosphere that is having a negative effect on home performances as well as some of the selections and tactics. 

[Galway Red]

25 minutes ago, Mr Popodopolous said:

2-1 to Wolves in 2017...granted it was a gut wrenching result but top of the table clash, thought the atmosphere was rather good...if only Frankie hadn't made that challenge eh, if only we hadn't left Flint up top at 1-0 vs 10 etc!

Atmosphere was of course good though, under the lights, top v 2nd, us very much on the rise, on Sky...yeah that was good! Nothing wrong with the atmosphere that evening...last Saturday of 2017!

If only, if only...

Was an impressive atmosphere though- very much in and around the Christmas period.

Fair shout but yet another disappointing result for BCFC in a league game, do we ever win a big and important league game? Even our double winning promotion year we only won once in 6 against the other 3 top teams

[Mr Popodopolous]

18 minutes ago, redapple said:

I agree that lots of obstacles are in the way ( not as many as the old Williams Stand) but to improve the atmosphere it’s a must. And I’m sure it’s the lack of atmosphere that is having a negative effect on home performances as well as some of the selections and tactics. 

Some solutions to the obstacles would be interesting to hear! Problem, Solution etc.

Internal Obstacles:

1. Problem with possible Season ticket holder displacement, especially when long-term as surely quite a few would be. Thinking of the Dolman A and B here.
2. Will it change the character of the Lansdown Stand? It could! Corporate Revenue, higher ticket areas...like oil and water. I've long given up on a noisy Lansdown Stand. Could be difficult.
3. 10% reduction in capacity in areas that have Reserved Seating.

External Obstacles:

1. The Police and SAG may object as it increases the risk of Interaction between Home and away fans.
2. The SAG especially would certainly object- possibly the SGSA but more likely the SAG- to possible standing areas in not one, not two but three Singing Areas in the ground.

Unknown issues- potentially Obstacles:

1. Would the singing areas be sitting or standing? If the latter then see External.
2. Reserved or Unreserved- see the 3rd point under Internal if the latter?

Yes, there are definitely a lot of issues. I remember making about ideas, to add to a debate a push for an Expanded Singing Section about 2 years ago but it gradually slipped down and we're no further forward with any of it.

NOT that I'd expect my threads to make a bit of difference, just highlighting that we're where we were two years ago, but probably with less noise and no further forward!

See this and this.

Literally where we were then- except probably less noisy!

[Ohbasso]

As the singing section is always sold out what about a second one in the opposite corner S18/19?

[redapple]

I currently have a ST  in Lansdown 11 . There aren’t that many ticket holders there. Lots of pay on the day ( they take forever finding their seats and know more opposition players than home) and injured players, celebs getting freebies etc . I’m sure you’d be able to fit S82 in and still find seats for current ST Holders in the lower Lansdown . A few beer vouchers to compensate would satisfy me. I can’t see that the Prawn Sandwiches would be effected at all . Might need a bit more stewarding  in the corner but that cost is peanuts compared with a new player and be more advantageous than most signings. 

[Mr Popodopolous]

The SAG?

The police?

Their input and approval would be a necessity here.

Surely a singing area would be standing...unreserved? Bit hard to sell a singing area if you have to sit! At least one of those categories has a 10% reduction in capacity in these areas as mandatory- or so I'm led to believe.

Nobody has addressed these very real obstacles.

[City fan 1982]

24 minutes ago, Ohbasso said:

As the singing section is always sold out what about a second one in the opposite corner S18/19?

I’m led to believe south stand including section82 is sold out due to season ticket holders ? 
yet on a matchday theres a load of empty seats all around, even watching the highlights on tv. Still lots of empty seats 

[redapple]

10 minutes ago, Mr Popodopolous said:

The SAG?

The police?

Their input and approval would be a necessity here.

Surely a singing area would be standing...unreserved? Bit hard to sell a singing area if you have to sit! At least one of those categories has a 10% reduction in capacity in these areas as mandatory- or so I'm led to believe.

Nobody has addressed these very real obstacles.

These can be overcome. Every stadium in the UK is different in the way they accommodate away fans, singing fans , juniors etc, doesn’t that prove that Police , Safety Groups can be flexible. Section 82 would probably want a big say as well and any other groups that might pop up . 

[BigTone]

2 hours ago, City Cat said:

 

That's her !!!

[Mr Popodopolous]

21 minutes ago, kivsy said:

I’m led to believe south stand including section82 is sold out due to season ticket holders ? 
yet on a matchday theres a load of empty seats all around, even watching the highlights on tv. Still lots of empty seats 

10% reduction in capacity in the Singing Area due to Unreserved/tolerance of standing.

At games in general there is an differential between tickers sold and attendees.

Then maybe some stay away for example due to discontent with the team/LJ and it can start to add up.

However yes, it is hard to get tickets in the South Stand for that reason.

Was under the impression that the Singing Section was ST only or has that changed now?

[Spoons]

44 minutes ago, Ohbasso said:

As the singing section is always sold out what about a second one in the opposite corner S18/19?

S19 is cooperate seating linked to the Heineken lounge. 

[Mr Popodopolous]

18 minutes ago, redapple said:

These can be overcome. Every stadium in the UK is different in the way they accommodate away fans, singing fans , juniors etc, doesn’t that prove that Police , Safety Groups can be flexible. Section 82 would probably want a big say as well and any other groups that might pop up . 

Away fans are a different category, in a sense- they generally stand because it's how it is these days...not ST holders, only at a ground once, twice a year usually and it's seen as more pragmatic. Home fans, many are ST holders- easier to control in a sense- well that 2nd bit my theory anyway!

I see what you're saying but I just don't see it as feasible as things are...I believe the best we can hope for is an expanded or maybe centralised Singing Section in the South Stand.

Maybe we could stick some in E28, to help noise spread across the Dolman a bit? They seem to like to stand at the top of the Dolman and the South Stand, clearly more people would like the opportunity.

[Ohbasso]

7 minutes ago, Spoons said:

S19 is cooperate seating linked to the Heineken lounge. 

I didn’t know that, cheers. I Suppose they couldn’t even be moved to W17 as it would be difficult getting back in and out.

[Mr Popodopolous]

24 minutes ago, Spoons said:

S19 is cooperate seating linked to the Heineken lounge. 

Which in turn, though it's at the other end of the stand, comes back to a problem with sticking them in the Lansdown- anywhere in the Lansdown- IMO.

[ChippenhamRed]

1 hour ago, Mr Popodopolous said:

2-1 to Wolves in 2017...granted it was a gut wrenching result but top of the table clash, thought the atmosphere was rather good...if only Frankie hadn't made that challenge eh, if only we hadn't left Flint up top at 1-0 vs 10 etc!

Atmosphere was of course good though, under the lights, top v 2nd, us very much on the rise, on Sky...yeah that was good! Nothing wrong with the atmosphere that evening...last Saturday of 2017!

If only, if only...

Was an impressive atmosphere though- very much in and around the Christmas period.

That was the defining match of the decade for our club wasn’t it. A goal and a man up and we somehow conspired to lose. What an absolute sickener it was. Feels like we’ve never truly recovered from it.

[RedLionLad]

4 hours ago, kivsy said:

I’m led to believe south stand including section82 is sold out due to season ticket holders ? 
yet on a matchday theres a load of empty seats all around, even watching the highlights on tv. Still lots of empty seats 

On 85 mins there were more empty seats than fans...

[Up The City!]

10 hours ago, 054123 said:

That’s fair enough.

I suppose my point isn’t that the atmosphere was good compared to a myriad of other games, but that given the the state of the game and the constant feeling that a large proportion of our fans are ready to march Lee Johnson our, what did you want or expect?

When the boos started after the Eliasson sub I thought the whole thing in the stands might have gone to rat shit.

The atmosphere was shite, the fact we had a shite ref helped raise the decibels for a short while as it always does but overall it was bad. Of course the result didnt help but even had we of won, it wouldnt have been much better.

Saturday mid day kick offs, anytime on a Sunday and New Years day games always produce a terrible atmosphere, always! 

There was plenty of empty seats around the stadium, I reckon there was only 17k there. The fan zone was absolutely dead, barely had to queue for a beer out there. 

Personally I didnt get home until 4am from the New Years celebrations, if I didnt have a ST, I probably wouldn't have gone. I was tired and cold and hardly had any enthusiasm for the game.

9 hours ago, Spoons said:

S19 is cooperate seating linked to the Heineken lounge. 

Hmmm not so sure about that. In parts yes, just below the lounge but predominantly it is season ticket holders and I believe is sold out.

I sit in S18, the club dont openly sell STs there but I do see the same faces every week so there is a fair few other ST holders in there but I think its reserved for pay on the day sales and complimentary tickets etc.

[weepywall]

9 hours ago, Spoons said:

S19 is cooperate seating linked to the Heineken lounge. 

Not correct I have a ST in S19, think it may be the upper part of S20 that is linked to the Heineken lounge.

[Spoons]

41 minutes ago, weepywall said:

Not correct I have a ST in S19, think it may be the upper part of S20 that is linked to the Heineken lounge.

I've sat in S19 several times whilst attending Heineken lounge. As you've said I've also sat in S20 as well. S19 has some padded seating. 

[weepywall]

1 hour ago, Spoons said:

I've sat in S19 several times whilst attending Heineken lounge. As you've said I've also sat in S20 as well. S19 has some padded seating. 

Fair enough didnt know that.

[Dredd]

14 hours ago, T R said:

The pre match music before the game starts is doing my head in. Me and my mates have given up trying to start anything up before the match starts. Both the chemical brothers galvinize song. and the cringey seven nation army song are sucking the life out of the atmosphere. Seven nation army got old 10 games ago.

Quite why they need to start the bass line to seven nation army 5 minutes before anyone is even in the tunnel I don’t know. It drones on and kills any sort of pre match atmosphere