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13 minutes ago, Monkeh said:

It happens every time, he has been in charge of nearly 110 home games in the league, he’s only won 25 of those home games 25 out of 110, let that sink in,

25 out of 110

and you wonder why people want them gone

 

12 minutes ago, Robin101 said:

Seriously? That’s an insane statistic.

 

11 minutes ago, glos old boy said:

a million likes for this

 

9 minutes ago, MRSATAN said:

Wow

that is truly shocking

 

9 minutes ago, North London Red said:

Can that be right? He’s been in charge for just over 4 years. 23 home games per season in the league would equate to 92 over four years. Are you sure 110 is right?!

 

8 minutes ago, Dastardly and Muttley said:

Christ. 25 wins out of 110 at home. Is that actually true?!

 

8 minutes ago, lenred said:

Didn’t realise it was that bad. Blimey! 

Counting back our last 25 home league wins came in 61 games, nowhere near Monkee's fake news 

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4 minutes ago, Kibs said:

As bad as we’ve been, we had 2 very good chances at 1-2. Got to take them. 

In terms of the performance though, shambolic is not too harsh a word.

The subs were bizarre and I’m not sure why he had to see another 15 minutes of dross before making them. 

We’ve put ourselves in such a good position but we are just so timid and tentative in everything we do.

Why aren’t we going for it? Why are we so slow and laborious in possession? Why are we so static? 

In terms of home performances, it's a long time since I've seen a more lacklustre City team than this. Russell Osman's team springs to mind

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Just now, Red Exile said:

Because we played really well on Saturday...and looked shapeless and pathetic tonight? 

Possibly? 

 

And that is the precisely what you get with Lee Johnson....massive inconsistency.

Some games good, some games ok and some games really bad. 

He cannot seem to find a consistent way of playing well.

Yes we won 4 on the spin but we didnt particularly play great in those games and those results could have easily gone the other way.

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1 minute ago, Psychopomp said:

How much support has LJ been given . Time, players, the biggest budget if a non parachute club, and we have we have one shot on target at home. When does he actually become accountable to some fans ? I simply do not get it. We are awful to watch at home. He has every tool, every club, all the time, so m any players, yet we look totally devoid of any plan, approach, strategy. Oh, and we are certainly not developing a youth strategy are we. It is not about promotion, we just do not look like a club that is clear in what it is trying to achieve. I personally am not that interested right now about the Prem, but I want to see our youth coming through, playing in a modern , entertaining and enthralling fashion. LJ has been given it all, and clearly has not got a clue. He blames the players all the time, stetted to blame Sl and MA for lack of support. He is out of excuses. I know many love him and think he is the best thing ever to happen to the club, but I am sorry, he is the biggest blagger ever seen. With the resources we have, what has been spent, wow what a top quality coach cold achieve with that. Time to Sl spends on the coaching set up. We are a good call. We can attract some major coaching talent. 

In the last 5 home games

you can add the number of shots on goal up on 1 hand

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7 minutes ago, Major Isewater said:

Here I am with Mr Hindsight;

We finally land the Championship experienced striker, who’s just won player of the month and don’t start him .

The midfield has looked lightweight so we bring in a Norwegian International and former Hull captain and don’t start him .Brum ran at us all night . 

Now a brave man would make those calls . LJ played it safe and we lost . 
 

We know this division has tight margins but why keep hoofing the ball up to their big lads at the back ? We won nothing in the air . 
 

You have to play over a press but where were the forwards in the space in front of them ? 
 

A very disappointing night as , once again, we fluff our lines .

Top six or Ta ta for LJ I believe.

 

Totally agree. We’ve showed ambition in the transfer market but it’s about time we showed some on the pitch, especially at home.

I thought it was the perfect game for Henriksen and Wells to come in and start. Was amazed they didn’t.

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1 minute ago, JBFC II said:

Ah so when we play well it’s Johnson in, when we don’t he has to go as he’s clueless. Got ya

hmm...no...I'm more considered than that. Last Saturday I was at QPR. We set up to win that match and played very well. Tonight was an absolute MUST win to cement a position in the top 6. We looked a shambles. Down to LJ's lack of tactical nous in my opinion.

I don't doubt he has what to takes to win the odd match...he certainly has the players. Surely the best squad at this level since we went down in 1980. But winning the odd match is not what wins promotion.

And so I have long considered Lee Johnson not up to the job.

 

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Same old posters believing.... forever and same old LJ no doubt blaming anything and anyone except himself; maybe LJ should take SL to specsavers when he goes as they dont seem to be seeing things to well.

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Just watched their third goal again....what a shocking goal to concede.

A long ball, 1 attacker v 4 defenders, Williams (who made some crucial interventions tonight) does not jump or attack the ball, then does not get goal side.

 

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3 minutes ago, Red Exile said:

hmm...no...I'm more considered than that. Last Saturday I was at QPR. We set up to win that match and played very well. Tonight was an absolute MUST win to cement a position in the top 6. We looked a shambles. Down to LJ's lack of tactical nous in my opinion.

I don't doubt he has what to takes to win the odd match...he certainly has the players. Surely the best squad at this level since we went down in 1980. But winning the odd match is not what wins promotion.

And so I have long considered Lee Johnson not up to the job.

 

It was as much down to a lack of tactical nous as it was to individual mistakes, as much as LJ may be to blame he can’t be blamed for the shambolic defending that led to those goals?

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19 minutes ago, Monkeh said:

It happens every time, he has been in charge of nearly 110 home games in the league, he’s only won 25 of those home games 25 out of 110, let that sink in,

25 out of 110

and you wonder why people want them gone

Not quite true Mr Trump.

LJ has had 92 home league games in charge with 40 wins so 43.4% win ration.

Not quite the 22% figure you plucked out! 

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21 minutes ago, Monkeh said:

It happens every time, he has been in charge of nearly 110 home games in the league, he’s only won 25 of those home games 25 out of 110, let that sink in,

25 out of 110

and you wonder why people want them gone

Thats shocking! Must've drew 40-50?

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In the last minutes of normal time we had the ball in our half and proceeded to make six passes to get 3 yards in to their half. We have zero movement off the ball and our midfield is our weakest part of the team which means loads of absolutely useless possession until we invariably give the ball away.They played through our MF all night and we were nowhere near them.Although we had a half chance they could have scored a few more as well from far more clear cut chances.We have a striker on the bench who has been on fire and leave him there while Weimann has a shocker and a Norwegian international with 40 odd caps and play a young lad who is struggling to come to terms with the physicality of the league and then to top it off take him off to put on an identikit player in Nagy.So disappointed in the performance tonight which was nowhere near good enough. 

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8 minutes ago, Psychopomp said:

How much support has LJ been given . Time, players, the biggest budget if a non parachute club, and we have we have one shot on target at home. When does he actually become accountable to some fans ? I simply do not get it. We are awful to watch at home. He has every tool, every club, all the time, so m any players, yet we look totally devoid of any plan, approach, strategy. Oh, and we are certainly not developing a youth strategy are we. It is not about promotion, we just do not look like a club that is clear in what it is trying to achieve. I personally am not that interested right now about the Prem, but I want to see our youth coming through, playing in a modern , entertaining and enthralling fashion. LJ has been given it all, and clearly has not got a clue. He blames the players all the time, stetted to blame Sl and MA for lack of support. He is out of excuses. I know many love him and think he is the best thing ever to happen to the club, but I am sorry, he is the biggest blagger ever seen. With the resources we have, what has been spent, wow what a top quality coach cold achieve with that. Time to Sl spends on the coaching set up. We are a good call. We can attract some major coaching talent. 

100% agree ?

 

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1 minute ago, Red Exile said:

hmm...no...I'm more considered than that. Last Saturday I was at QPR. We set up to win that match and played very well. Tonight was an absolute MUST win to cement a position in the top 6. We looked a shambles. Down to LJ's lack of tactical nous in my opinion.

I don't doubt he has what to takes to win the odd match...he certainly has the players. Surely the best squad at this level since we went down in 1980. But winning the odd match is not what wins promotion.

And so I have long considered Lee Johnson not up to the job.

 

Four in a row and five in six isn’t the odd march though, is it?

I mean, we’re all annoyed, that was really poor, but people are losing their heads all over the place here.

Let’s see where we are in May and if, as you suggest, we’ve fallen short it’ll be time for a change.

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17 minutes ago, Major Isewater said:

Here I am with Mr Hindsight;

We finally land the Championship experienced striker, who’s just won player of the month and don’t start him .

The midfield has looked lightweight so we bring in a Norwegian International and former Hull captain and don’t start him .Brum ran at us all night . 

Now a brave man would make those calls . LJ played it safe and we lost . 
 

We know this division has tight margins but why keep hoofing the ball up to their big lads at the back ? We won nothing in the air . 
 

You have to play over a press but where were the forwards in the space in front of them ? 
 

A very disappointing night as , once again, we fluff our lines .

Top six or Ta ta for LJ I believe.

 

If he’d made those changes he’d have been crucified for it after 4 wins. 

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5 minutes ago, JBFC II said:

It was as much down to a lack of tactical nous as it was to individual mistakes, as much as LJ may be to blame he can’t be blamed for the shambolic defending that led to those goals?

He can, yes. His team, his picks. His coaching. It's all his, has been for 4 years.

 

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We didn’t deserve anything tonight against a team who had several players that played 120 minutes Wednesday and they still looked better than us - we lack creativity and a bit of know how to play at home as we obviously have a well practiced away strategy

Wells looks sharp and will be an asset but needs someone like Palmer to work with him

we are too predictable and teams know how to set up against us at home 

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This season played14 won 6 drawn 4 lost 4 

last season played 23 won 8 drawn 8 lost 7

Season before tha won 11 drawn  6 lost 6

so it wasn’t 110 as I first suggested but it was 25 wins in the last 3 seasons,

which is still shit and still backs up the point I’m trying to make, 

Johnson only knows how to set up an away team, he is fantastic away from home but his home record is  disgrace and there is no defending it

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6 minutes ago, Red Exile said:

He can, yes. His team, his picks. His coaching. It's all his, has been for 4 years.

 

It may well be his team, but he hardly tells players to go out there and make stupid errors, to put that down to him is laughable 

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One day, hopefully soon, we'll have a new head coach or manager and we'll remember that it is possible to play with purpose and actually take a game to the opposition. We'll see City play at Ashton Gate and dominate the opposition. Then we'll realise that we've had the wool pulled over our eyes for four years. This team has too much quality to be this bad.

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8 minutes ago, cidercity1987 said:

Sorry but that stat is absolutely incorrect. At a guess his home win ratio is somewhere like 35%, not great but more than 25/110.

Just taken a look at his home results and from Johnson taking over Feb 2016,

End of 15/16 - 4 wins from 8 home

16/17 - 11 wins from 25 in all comp

17/18 - 16 wins from 29 in all comp

18/19 - 10 wins from 29 in all comp

19/20 - 6 wins from 18 in all comp so far

Total games 109

Total wins 47

43% win ratio

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2 minutes ago, INCRED said:

we are too predictable and teams know how to set up against us at home

We are just static with very little to no movement at all.We have a decent side ..........but our big weakness is our midfield,no physicality and powder puff.No wonder we concede so many.........

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3 minutes ago, Xiled said:

One day, hopefully soon, we'll have a new head coach or manager and we'll remember that it is possible to play with purpose and actually take a game to the opposition. We'll see City play at Ashton Gate and dominate the opposition. Then we'll realise that we've had the wool pulled over our eyes for four years. This team has too much quality to be this bad.

out of emojis, but could not agree more.

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5 minutes ago, chucky said:

Just taken a look at his home results and from Johnson taking over Feb 2016,

End of 15/16 - 4 wins from 8 home

16/17 - 11 wins from 25 in all comp

17/18 - 16 wins from 29 in all comp

18/19 - 10 wins from 29 in all comp

19/20 - 6 wins from 18 in all comp so far

Total games 109

Total wins 47

43% win ratio

Pretty unbelievable that the higher we get the worse our home form is. Our away is incredibly good and must be getting better.

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8 minutes ago, JBFC II said:

It may well be his team, but he hardly tells players to go out there and make stupid errors, to put that down to him is laughable 

really?

...ok, well - and no offence meant - you may as well give him a free pass then.

He coaches the players and picks the team. I've run big teams of creative people. If they failed to produce I was never in doubt that it was my fault.

Johnson out. Despite resources to kill for, simply not up to the job.

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10 minutes ago, chucky said:

Just taken a look at his home results and from Johnson taking over Feb 2016,

End of 15/16 - 4 wins from 8 home

16/17 - 11 wins from 25 in all comp

17/18 - 16 wins from 29 in all comp

18/19 - 10 wins from 29 in all comp

19/20 - 6 wins from 18 in all comp so far

Total games 109

Total wins 47

43% win ratio

Think its 40 wins in the league over those seasons, 14 since the beginning of last season 38 games which has been the problem. 

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3 minutes ago, Red Exile said:

really?

...ok, well - and no offence meant - you may as well give him a free pass then.

He coaches the players and picks the team. I've run big teams of creative people. If they failed to produce I was never in doubt that it was my fault.

Johnson out. Despite resources to kill for, simply not up to the job.

This is the bit that really concerns me - I don't know what else Lee needs to have given to him to manage a competent home performance over anyone not in the bottom three. I still don't see us finishing anywhere near the top 6 I'm afraid. 

We can't play the bottom 3 every week and away wins will get harder when we get to the pointed end.

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14 minutes ago, Monkeh said:

This season played14 won 6 drawn 4 lost 4 

last season played 23 won 8 drawn 8 lost 7

Season before tha won 11 drawn  6 lost 6

so it wasn’t 110 as I first suggested but it was 25 wins in the last 3 seasons,

which is still shit and still backs up the point I’m trying to make, 

Johnson only knows how to set up an away team, he is fantastic away from home but his home record is  disgrace and there is no defending it

Go to bed mate 

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Our midfield isn't strong enough or good enough on the ball to dictate or boss games, even if we're 1-0 up against lowly opposition at home. 

The amount of aimless, lofted passes today was infuriating. 

Unless Henriksen can come in and change that dramatically we will not make the playoffs by desperately trying to defend a 1-0 lead.

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LJ has had a lot of plaudits about our away form and the amount of points we have picked up but I feel it's disingenuous of people on here to say the home performances are not down to him and you can't compensate for players making bad errors.The tactics tonight were shambolic and it is down to the manager not to the players who play the way he wants them to play.We are slow in our build up play with very little movement and play a high percentage of our passes in our own half.If LJ didn't want them to play like this I,m certain he would be animated on the touchline telling them to move it around quicker......but no,nothing.A few minutes left of normal time and we play 6 passes at the back to get a few yards into their half.It really is poor and undefendable, so the stick he gets tonight is justified imo.

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Absolute shite throughout.

Weimann at wing back?? Ok Lee, time to stop ******* about and get back to basics.

Diedhiou was the only one wearing his heart on his sleeve tonight, my ratings;

Everyone bar Diedhiou 3

Diedhiou 8

LJ, minus 105 for making a simple game bewilderingly difficult.

****** if I’m watching that shit again on Wednesday. 

Other than that, not a bad Friday ?

Another £60 pissed up the wall for travel, food and a couple of £5 Heineken’s that tasted like they’d been filtered through the u23’s used socks ?

 

 

 

 

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12 minutes ago, Oops said:

Absolute shite throughout.

Weimann at wing back?? Ok Lee, time to stop ******* about and get back to basics.

Diedhiou was the only one wearing his heart on his sleeve tonight, my ratings;

Everyone bar Diedhiou 3

Diedhiou 8

LJ, minus 105 for making a simple game bewilderingly difficult.

****** if I’m watching that shit again on Wednesday. 

Other than that, not a bad Friday ?

Another £60 pissed up the wall for travel, food and a couple of £5 Heineken’s that tasted like they’d been filtered through the u23’s used socks ?

 

 

 

 

Paterson 3?!?!

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Hunt gave away possession for first, 2nd bad luck 3rd Benkovic, no wonder he couldnt get in the. Leicester team!

Can’t even blame Stroud and his ancient Lino - who between them missed just about everything!
Hunt only 1 good moment, Smith didn’t seem to know what he’s doing, looking left n right for passes and ignoring runners, Bentley usually much more aware of outfield runs, missed every one tonight, Dasilva sorry for him exposed too often. Wrong setup wrong personnel for a physical Birmingham, if Wells is so good why did we not set up for him?
Johnson out (in his own words - he’s not Billy Butlin  - what the **** does that mean?)

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10 minutes ago, RedDave said:

Paterson 3?!?!

Yup

Scored and promptly disappeared up his own bumhole for the next 89 minutes ?

one arm wave on the way to take a corner doesn’t give him a 4 I’m afraid ?

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