Mr Popodopolous Posted March 26, 2020 Report Share Posted March 26, 2020 I see that Burnley are paying their casual staff still. https://www.burnleyfootballclub.com/news/2020/march/club-statement-casual-workers-pay/ The Leeds wage deferral also covers casual staff, Man City have now decided to pay casual staff too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redwhitepurple Posted March 26, 2020 Report Share Posted March 26, 2020 Zero hour contracts are perfect for us all but they have downsides, and it's those downsides as to why most of us bite the bullet and take 37 40 hour a week jobs, so tough titty in my eyes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted March 26, 2020 Report Share Posted March 26, 2020 Oh dear, you don't half spout some shite, @Redwhitepurple Go and read up on the abuse of zero hour contracts. NOT suggesting this has happened here but in society more widely. Apologies was mixing you up with Red My Colour- but I don't apologise for saying you don't half spout some shite. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted March 30, 2020 Report Share Posted March 30, 2020 Here's my prediction on this (FWIW). The matchday/casual staff will at this time as per @Dollymarie post get wished well etc. As for support? It'll be a recommendation or suggestion for Universal Credit unless of course Government support will cover them, as one of the schemes. Of course that's an early estimate. I'm purely surmising obvs. Well meaning but possibly a little bit crass too. All in it together? Pffft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted March 30, 2020 Report Share Posted March 30, 2020 On 18/03/2020 at 16:47, Dollymarie said: Foster son works at AG during rugby games, he’s had an email this afternoon basically wishing him well (as in stay healthy) through these difficult times and they’ll be in touch, but nothing else. Not having a pop at Ashton Gate, just relaying the info. Reckon there will be **** all, periodic comms, well wishing aside. Unless a Government scheme covers it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted April 1, 2020 Report Share Posted April 1, 2020 Will row back a bit on this. Having a pop at @Redwhitepurple was possibly unfair- though I still think mistaken on zero hours. Nonetheless, I apologise. Who knows- Furlough might cover these. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted April 16, 2020 Report Share Posted April 16, 2020 Objectively speaking, I won't hold my breath... Given SL's tax status, and the Bristol Sport arrangement (ie rugby players taking a hit)- how it pans out will be interesting. Certainly think with those elements that it is more newsworthy than many Championship clubs who don't often hit the limelight. The furlough thing I mean but the general point too, of this- all as a big story, useful material. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fatchers Posted April 16, 2020 Report Share Posted April 16, 2020 I worked as match day staff at the Gate for many years. I was paid by an agency . A lot of the other match day staff also worked at Gas , Yeovil and Swindon games. A gashead used to laugh that he was paid to watch 'da shit'. Some people on here are using this as an excuse to take a pop at our owners. Its agency work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted April 16, 2020 Report Share Posted April 16, 2020 Excuse to slag off owners, am unsure about that. I'm fairly positve about SL and his stewardship of the club. Nonetheless, it surprises me that matchday staff appear to be getting left to their own devices. Surprises me given that Leeds players have taken a hit albeit a deferred hit in order to ensure that non football staff are paid in full. I digress however, @fatchers but unsure about your ratio or distribution of agency to directly employed matchday staff on zero hours. A post in this thread intimates that it is/was a 50/50 split. Check posts 19 and 23 in fact. Puts it better than my guesswork if broadly accurate. A useful question is whether staff are being furloughed using the tax payed or like Sheffield United furloughed but not using the taxpayer. Of couese, for matchday staff that's a bit of an irrelevance. Because 100/0x80=0 I'd have thought. As in 80% of zero is zero. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreedyHarry Posted April 16, 2020 Report Share Posted April 16, 2020 Interesting, I know people on zero hours contracts that have been furloughed and are getting 80% of their average wage over the last 52 weeks and it’s part of the govt scheme. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fatchers Posted April 17, 2020 Report Share Posted April 17, 2020 Mr Popodopolus , I was just giving my personal experience of my time as match day staff working at the gate for nearly 10 years. Like others I had a full time job and only worked at the gate on match or event days . Due to my full time job change I stopped doing match day work. As me and my youngest son are season card holders I still see match day staff I use to work with. Two 'gas heads' still work in the South stand. :laugh:. I was not referring to you when I said 'quite rightly' that some people on here seem to use any excuse to have a dig at our owners. Perhaps they should take a look at the owners north of the river. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted April 17, 2020 Report Share Posted April 17, 2020 Given some of my posts some thought and happy to row back on, hold fire about a few aspects. Lot of contradictory posts in this thread about it. 1) The early coverage of furlough. Made it seem all like taxpayer, when in fact it appears to be more nuanced. For example, Sheffield United apparently furloughed staff but without taxpayer subsidy mentioned. Happy to hold fire- for all we know, we may well have done the same. Possibly, furlough does not automatically mean taxpayer. 2) What TuxHarry said. In fairness the furlough scheme appears to be a work in progress. Struggling to see how zero hours and casual staff covered but again may well be the case? 3) Ultimately I trust the club to do the right thing by its employees not least as it's overseen by SL. Right thing by all in fact. Fair enough Fatchers, crossed wires on my part with respect to that bit I think. More than happy to drop this issue for the foreseeable, not least due to point 3). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lanterne Rouge Posted April 17, 2020 Report Share Posted April 17, 2020 21 hours ago, GreedyHarry said: Interesting, I know people on zero hours contracts that have been furloughed and are getting 80% of their average wage over the last 52 weeks and it’s part of the govt scheme. This is correct. Mrs LR was on a zero hours contract up to March when the business was forced to close (café). She has been told they will total up her earnings for the previous 52 weeks multiply that by 80%, divide that by 12 and that is what she will get per month. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pezo Posted April 17, 2020 Report Share Posted April 17, 2020 I always think its easy to spend other people's money but the clubs money is basically our money paid to the club through tickets and merchandise and the Lansdown families already generous contributions. I don't think it's right to press someone to tear up their contract because they earn a lot of money - it's their decision what they do with their contract and their money. They will likely have mortgages and bills and might already donate a hefty sum to charities. If they take a 50% pay cut then 40% of that cut isn't going to the tax man to be able to pay for things like the NHS, they wouldn't likely be able to make charitable donations ect ect. If there was a 1 off additional charge of say £20 for all season ticket holders to be able to pay for this would we be happy? I would happily pay an additional £20 so that people that work zero hours contracts could get some money but I wouldn't want it going to people that already have a full time job and are currently furloughed e.g. taking the 80% of there £28k a year job and then getting this on top. This country has got some tough questions to answer over the next few years around how we pay for this and other things. It's going to make the previous 12 years look like a walk in the park (not to diminish anyone that's struggled through the last 12 years but don't think it's going to get easier). I can see another Marshall plan type event. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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