Lrrr Posted July 24, 2020 Report Share Posted July 24, 2020 1 minute ago, Dastardly and Muttley said: A twitter search, with lots of translation, seems to suggests that Torrent will be the new manager of Flamengo after Jorge Jesus returned to Benfica. So Lez is right, they never specified which club he had been interviewed by Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Posted July 24, 2020 Report Share Posted July 24, 2020 6 minutes ago, Lrrr said: So Lez is right, they never specified which club he had been interviewed by Are we referring to Lez as ‘they’ now. Is this one of those gender identity things, or because he is actually two persons - Lez and Londoner? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lrrr Posted July 24, 2020 Report Share Posted July 24, 2020 Just now, Harry said: Are we referring to Lez as ‘they’ now. Is this one of those gender identity things, or because he is actually two persons - Lez and Londoner? To phrase an academic 'I couldn't be arsed to correct myself' after seeing I had typed it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lez Posted July 24, 2020 Author Report Share Posted July 24, 2020 27 minutes ago, Lrrr said: To phrase an academic 'I couldn't be arsed to correct myself' after seeing I had typed it I agree with this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renaissance Williams Posted July 24, 2020 Report Share Posted July 24, 2020 36 minutes ago, Lez said: I agree with this. I’ve been on the M6 all day, I open up OTIB and he’s all over it like a rash! Quick, is there an epidemiologist in the house? No....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbored Posted July 25, 2020 Report Share Posted July 25, 2020 8 hours ago, Top Robin said: No.. managerial experience much higher than that The MLS? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Top Robin Posted July 25, 2020 Report Share Posted July 25, 2020 28 minutes ago, Robbored said: The MLS? Selective information to push your point....but should also really mention that he was assistant manager at Barcelona, Bayern Munich and Man City. Not sure he's the answer but a decent CV with quality contacts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supercidered Posted July 25, 2020 Report Share Posted July 25, 2020 9 hours ago, Lez said: Just passing on what I was told!!!! Fair enough. I was told the earth is flat and the moon landings didn’t happen. case rested. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BetterRedthanBlue Posted July 25, 2020 Report Share Posted July 25, 2020 There's no guarantee that a former assistant to a top class manager will be a top class manager, Paul Clement for example. The MLS is a completely different competition compared to the championship, I imagine the sag's would give most MLS teams a run for their money and they aren't even good! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Show Me The Money! Posted July 25, 2020 Report Share Posted July 25, 2020 Coaching Voice article on this gent Coaching Voice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curr Avon Posted July 25, 2020 Report Share Posted July 25, 2020 59 minutes ago, Robbored said: The MLS? Madeup League in Spain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mozo Posted July 25, 2020 Report Share Posted July 25, 2020 7 minutes ago, BetterRedthenBlue said: There's no guarantee that a former assistant to a top class manager will be a top class manager, Paul Clement for example. The MLS is a completely different competition compared to the championship, I imagine the sag's would give most MLS teams a run for their money and they aren't even good! No guarantee, but always deserving of an opportunity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbored Posted July 25, 2020 Report Share Posted July 25, 2020 35 minutes ago, Top Robin said: Selective information to push your point....but should also really mention that he was assistant manager at Barcelona, Bayern Munich and Man City. Not sure he's the answer but a decent CV with quality contacts. Not making any point TR. l’m simply playing devils advocate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
downendcity Posted July 25, 2020 Report Share Posted July 25, 2020 32 minutes ago, supercidered said: Fair enough. I was told the earth is flat and the moon landings didn’t happen. case rested. When the Saturn 5 rocket reached the edge of the flat earth it would have tipped over into the void, so they could never have reached the moon, let alone land on it.. Q.E.D. 11 minutes ago, Robbored said: Not making any point TR. l’m simply playing devils advocate. ..............is that on the X box or playstation? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CliftonCliff Posted July 25, 2020 Report Share Posted July 25, 2020 23 minutes ago, Show Me The Money! said: Coaching Voice article on this gent Coaching Voice Thanks for this. Very long article and haven’t read it in its entirety, but interesting stuff. This guy has a lot of valuable experience. Whether it would make him well prepared for the Championship I don’t know. It would be a left field and arguably risky appointment, but intriguing - if there is any truth in it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbored Posted July 25, 2020 Report Share Posted July 25, 2020 2 minutes ago, CliftonCliff said: This guy has a lot of valuable experience. Whether it would make him well prepared for the Championship I don’t know. It would be a left field and arguably risky appointment, but intriguing - if there is any truth in it. Any managerial appointment is risky business which is why many of think that in order to minimise said risk that the chosen manager should have a proven record of promotion from the Championship and Hughton is one that fits that criteria. A left field appointment is not the way forward imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolf Island Posted July 25, 2020 Report Share Posted July 25, 2020 57 minutes ago, Top Robin said: Selective information to push your point....but should also really mention that he was assistant manager at Barcelona, Bayern Munich and Man City. Not sure he's the answer but a decent CV with quality contacts. No CV of note at manager level. Being assistant just isn’t the same. For some it translates for others it doesn’t. He’d have to blow the panel away to be appointed surely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Watts Posted July 25, 2020 Report Share Posted July 25, 2020 9 hours ago, Harry said: Are we referring to Lez as ‘they’ now. Is this one of those gender identity things, or because he is actually two persons - Lez and Londoner? Are we assuming that Lez is a fella? Could be Leslie (f), a lesbian....I'm not actually sure.....are you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Port Said Red Posted July 25, 2020 Report Share Posted July 25, 2020 9 hours ago, Harry said: Are we referring to Lez as ‘they’ now. Is this one of those gender identity things, or because he is actually two persons - Lez and Londoner? Well at one point a couple of days they corrected someone who referred to them as “he” and then a few hours later, did the reverse, this suggests some gender fluidity. Although in these circumstances people are encouraged to choose their own pronouns, until we receive some notification of that from Lez, the safe options are, “they” although there are the newly created options of “zhe” or “zhey”. I hope that helps? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CliftonCliff Posted July 25, 2020 Report Share Posted July 25, 2020 5 minutes ago, Hare Island said: No CV of note at manager level. Being assistant just isn’t the same. For some it translates for others it doesn’t. He’d have to blow the panel away to be appointed surely. Don’t disagree at all and I’m not advocating it, but he has held very senior coaching positions over a long period, at some of Europe’s top clubs (including experience in English football, of course), and under one of the world’s best managers. I would have an open mind about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
headhunter Posted July 25, 2020 Report Share Posted July 25, 2020 29 minutes ago, CliftonCliff said: Thanks for this. Very long article and haven’t read it in its entirety, but interesting stuff. This guy has a lot of valuable experience. Whether it would make him well prepared for the Championship I don’t know. It would be a left field and arguably risky appointment, but intriguing - if there is any truth in it. I've read the Coaches Voice article and it's very informative. He is credible and certainly would have been worth an interview. Like with any candidate, once you have decided maybe you question that decision. In this guy's case I would say he is a late developer. The article says that for a lot of his time with Pep he was an Analyst, perhaps more than that at Bayern, then at Man City working as one of 3 direct reports into Pep. Is he to Pep what McClaren was to Ferguson, or what Taylor was to Clough? That is the question alongside what was it at New York that it seems he didn't like? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leveller Posted July 25, 2020 Report Share Posted July 25, 2020 36 minutes ago, Port Said Red said: Well at one point a couple of days they corrected someone who referred to them as “he” and then a few hours later, did the reverse, this suggests some gender fluidity. Although in these circumstances people are encouraged to choose their own pronouns, until we receive some notification of that from Lez, the safe options are, “they” although there are the newly created options of “zhe” or “zhey”. I hope that helps? Indeed; I referred to Lez as “he” and Lez corrected it to “She”. Them someone else used “her” and Lez responded with “him”. So, either confused, or struggling to remember which fib was used last! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeh Posted July 25, 2020 Report Share Posted July 25, 2020 4 minutes ago, Leveller said: Indeed; I referred to Lez as “he” and Lez corrected it to “She”. Them someone else used “her” and Lez responded with “him”. So, either confused, or struggling to remember which fib was used last! Signs of a bad lier is a poor memory, And a split personality Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Show Me The Money! Posted July 25, 2020 Report Share Posted July 25, 2020 2 hours ago, CliftonCliff said: Thanks for this. Very long article and haven’t read it in its entirety, but interesting stuff. This guy has a lot of valuable experience. Whether it would make him well prepared for the Championship I don’t know. It would be a left field and arguably risky appointment, but intriguing - if there is any truth in it. Searched the CV website for Dean Saunders ......nothing! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lanterne Rouge Posted July 25, 2020 Report Share Posted July 25, 2020 6 minutes ago, Show Me The Money! said: Searched the CV website for Dean Saunders ......nothing! Try having a look for Iain Dowie........................... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Red Hat Posted July 25, 2020 Report Share Posted July 25, 2020 2 hours ago, CliftonCliff said: Don’t disagree at all and I’m not advocating it, but he has held very senior coaching positions over a long period, at some of Europe’s top clubs (including experience in English football, of course), and under one of the world’s best managers. I would have an open mind about it. I could be quite excited by his appointment! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
headhunter Posted July 25, 2020 Report Share Posted July 25, 2020 More stuff on Domenec Torrent: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-5992383/The-secret-life-Pep-Guardiola-Ex-Manchester-City-No-2-Domenec-Torrent-reveals-all.html https://www.nycfc.com/post/2019/11/08/new-york-city-fc-and-head-coach-dom-nec-torrent-mutually-agree-part-ways This doesn't appear as if it could be worse than Benny Lennartsson. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southvillekiddy Posted July 25, 2020 Report Share Posted July 25, 2020 3 hours ago, BetterRedthenBlue said: There's no guarantee that a former assistant to a top class manager will be a top class manager, Paul Clement for example. The MLS is a completely different competition compared to the championship, I imagine the sag's would give most MLS teams a run for their money and they aren't even good! Alan Dicks?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
havanatopia Posted July 25, 2020 Report Share Posted July 25, 2020 13 hours ago, Cardy said: This is a clever avenue from Ashton in terms of being seen not to appoint a ‘Yes‘ man. He’s going to go out & get a ‘Si’ man instead. He is Catalan so its a Sí , maybe from me. 13 hours ago, headhunter said: Seems to have been at Pep's side for many years. Seems to have done an OK job in MLS as a No.1 Found this on the Man City forum: https://forums.bluemoon-mcfc.co.uk/threads/domenec-torrent-interview.335528/ Said on FBC podcast tonight that if we go foreign it gives Steve "do the right thing" Lansdown" the opportunity to retain the services of Dean "fine job" Holden and Jamie "the restauranter" McAllister as they know the playing staff. You actually mean Jamie "sack your chef 'cos of covid 19' and then re-advertise for a new one" MacAllister ? 3 hours ago, Hare Island said: No CV of note at manager level. Being assistant just isn’t the same. For some it translates for others it doesn’t. He’d have to blow the panel away to be appointed surely. As long as he speaks fluent English, or near as damn, and has the personality and authority, which are pre-requisites, then no reason he should not be considered with his background. An Interview and references will hopefully bear that out, or not, as the case may be. 2 hours ago, headhunter said: I've read the Coaches Voice article and it's very informative. He is credible and certainly would have been worth an interview. Like with any candidate, once you have decided maybe you question that decision. In this guy's case I would say he is a late developer. The article says that for a lot of his time with Pep he was an Analyst, perhaps more than that at Bayern, then at Man City working as one of 3 direct reports into Pep. Is he to Pep what McClaren was to Ferguson, or what Taylor was to Clough? That is the question alongside what was it at New York that it seems he didn't like? It gets cold in the nether regions during the 'fall and winter' like nobody's business. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CliftonCliff Posted July 25, 2020 Report Share Posted July 25, 2020 7 minutes ago, southvillekiddy said: Alan Dicks?? Good shout SK. AD didn’t do too badly, did he? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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